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Post by The Twilight God on Mar 30, 2017 13:54:50 GMT
OK, Ryder vs Shepard: I'd have to give it to Ryder, strictly because of the SAM augmentation. That shit would be super OP in the MEU, because it's essentially Combat Chameleon. But that's just combat which for me isn't enough. As a personality, I'd also give it to Ryder, by an even wider margin.
Ryder could have every ability all at once and Shepard would still curb stomp him. That's like saying if a Biotic, a Tech and a armored soldier is in Shepards way he can't win. You've fought mixed company in the MET. And that's all Ryder is. Well, if that mixed company lines up to fight you one at a time like one of those cheesy fight scenes. And let's face the facts. Ryder would be dead before he could even switch from one profile/favorite to another. So really it's more like they line up to fight you one at a time, but when you beat the first guy the others run away. And of course Shepard has more at his disposal at any given time than the SEARS mannequin.
OK, a more fair comparison is: Kai Leng vs. Alec Ryder
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 30, 2017 14:02:37 GMT
OK, Ryder vs Shepard: I'd have to give it to Ryder, strictly because of the SAM augmentation. That shit would be super OP in the MEU, because it's essentially Combat Chameleon. But that's just combat which for me isn't enough. As a personality, I'd also give it to Ryder, by an even wider margin.
Ryder could have every ability all at once and Shepard would still curb stomp him. That's like saying if a Biotic, a Tech and a armored soldier is in Shepards way he can't win. You've fought mixed company in the MET. And that's all Ryder is. Well, if that mixed company lines up to fight you one at a time like one of those cheesy fight scenes. And let's face the facts. Ryder would be dead before he could even switch from one profile/favorite to another. So really it's more like they line up to fight you one at a time, but when you beat the first guy the others run away. And of course Shepard has more at his disposal at any given time than the SEARS mannequin.
OK, a more fair comparison is: Kai Leng vs. Alec Ryder
Let's face the truth. They would fight forever on a mountain top and people would tell of the legend of why it turned into a volcano. As for Alec vs. Leng, it's hard to say, because Leng has the power of cutscene armor. I'd like to give it to Leng for the same reason I gave to our Ryder. Leng is a total scrub.
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Post by disi on Mar 30, 2017 14:07:40 GMT
Shepard vs. Scott Ryder -> I think Shepard would just stare him into submission (reaper-stare). Ashley vs. Cora -> Ashley would give her a good spanking, but later also tell a bedstory.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Mar 30, 2017 14:11:37 GMT
How about this: Shepard and Ryder (With all their squad mates) Vs..... The Doom Slayer!!!!!!!
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 30, 2017 14:17:34 GMT
Shepard vs. Scott Ryder -> I think Shepard would just stare him into submission (reaper-stare). Ashley vs. Cora -> Ashley would give her a good spanking, but later also tell a bedstory. Or stare him into bed, like he did to Kelly Chambers.
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Post by disi on Mar 30, 2017 14:20:58 GMT
Shepard vs. Scott Ryder -> I think Shepard would just stare him into submission (reaper-stare). Ashley vs. Cora -> Ashley would give her a good spanking, but later also tell a bedstory. Or stare him into bed, like he did to Kelly Chambers. My Shepard was always professional, except for punching journalists...
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Post by zipzap2000 on Mar 30, 2017 14:25:19 GMT
Which brings us to Kalisah Bint Sinan Al-Jalani vs Keri Whats-her-face.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 30, 2017 14:34:10 GMT
Which brings us to Kalisah Bint Sinan Al-Jalani vs Keri Whats-her-face. One is a guaranteed biotic so that one's kinda easy.
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Post by vyndral on Mar 30, 2017 14:35:53 GMT
Commander Shepard or Pathfinder Ryder Experienced Drack or a Youthful Grunt Biotic Cora or Soldier Ashley The misfit Asari (Peebz) or The Matriarchs daughter (Liara) A crippled human Joker or a Salarian Kallo. Lexi vs Chakwas Gil or engineer Adams Sexy smuggler Vetra or Vigilante C-sec officer Garrus E.D.I or S.A.M Liam or Kaiden Jaal or Javik Suvi or Traynor Add your own. Shepard no problem. Grunt. Always Grunt. Cora. Just Cora. Liara. Or they would make little blue babies together. Draw. If forced to fight pretty sure Joker would win. But I think Kello would run. And Joker ain't catching nothing. Lexi, she can't get beat up until I find a way into her pants. Gil. Im pretty sure he is actually a raging psychotic. Garrus. Im sorry my sweet sweet Vetra you would never even see him coming. SAM. EDI had a body, so to make it fair SAM would need one. And that would be Ryder. Kaiden. He would chew up and spit out poor make the best of it Liam. Javik. Coin flip. Javik was heads. Suvi. Come on she spent her childhood strengthening her tongue by licking rocks. Traynor would easily be licked into submission.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 30, 2017 14:45:29 GMT
Suvi. Come on she spent her childhood strengthening her tongue by licking rocks. Traynor would easily be licked into submission.
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Post by thumbfu on Mar 30, 2017 15:03:24 GMT
Shepard, quite handily, even with S.A.M helping Ryder would be ground to a pulp.
My heart says Drack but my head says Grunt.
Cora, she's a biotic as well as a soldier, so she has the upper hand.
Liara, because she's my bae.
Kallo... come on what's Joker gonna do? Break his arm at him?
Lexi, she's got a mean streak.
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Gonna say EDI would win the virtual war.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Mar 30, 2017 15:24:03 GMT
Which brings us to Kalisah Bint Sinan Al-Jalani vs Keri Whats-her-face. One is a guaranteed biotic so that one's kinda easy. Shes survived a Krogan melee and ducked a punch from the great one. Shes got this.
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Post by The Twilight God on Mar 30, 2017 16:33:16 GMT
Ryder could have every ability all at once and Shepard would still curb stomp him. That's like saying if a Biotic, a Tech and a armored soldier is in Shepards way he can't win. You've fought mixed company in the MET. And that's all Ryder is. Well, if that mixed company lines up to fight you one at a time like one of those cheesy fight scenes. And let's face the facts. Ryder would be dead before he could even switch from one profile/favorite to another. So really it's more like they line up to fight you one at a time, but when you beat the first guy the others run away. And of course Shepard has more at his disposal at any given time than the SEARS mannequin.
OK, a more fair comparison is: Kai Leng vs. Alec Ryder
Let's face the truth. They would fight forever on a mountain top and people would tell of the legend of why it turned into a volcano. As for Alec vs. Leng, it's hard to say, because Leng has the power of cutscene armor. I'd like to give it to Leng for the same reason I gave to our Ryder. Leng is a total scrub. Shepard lifts and tossed aside steel beams like they are make of styrofoam. Shepard punching at full strength would shatter Ryder's skull. He could literally ripe Ryder apart with his bare hands. I'm not sure why he even had an omni blade. I guess to be showy. Cyborg N7 Greatest Human Champion-Savior of All Time will always beat SEARS mannequin rookie. SAM adds absolutely zero to Ryder in comparison to Shepard. Shepard will always be faster, stronger, more skilled, etc. because he is augmented beyond the limits of a biological human. Ryder, until he gets some serious upgrades, will always be limited to the peak of human fitness. Even with SAM ME1 Shepard was better than Ryder in every way. Ryder needs SAM just to be less subpar to Shepard.
But that's supposedly the beauty in Ryder. He/she is average and relatable. That's what everyone keeps saying anyway.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Mar 30, 2017 16:35:43 GMT
Shepard he has experience, cerebrus enhancements, is an N7, and a spectre. Ryder being able to swap classes on the fly isn't that much of an advantage. Shepard has fought a huge variety of enemies. Ryder's only real advantage is his mobility but the cerebrus goons Shepard mowed through also had jump jets.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 30, 2017 16:58:45 GMT
Was it ever really established that the Cerberus implants did more than just keep Shep alive? I don't recall any info about enhanced abilities as a result. From what I understood, TIM wanted Shepard to be pretty much who/what s/he was before the Collector attack, not the MEU equivalent of the 6 million dollar man.
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Post by Nyx on Mar 30, 2017 17:16:56 GMT
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Jaal or Javik
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Post by AnDromedary on Mar 30, 2017 17:17:09 GMT
Commander Shepard or Pathfinder Ryder Experienced Drack or a Youthful Grunt Biotic Cora or Soldier Ashley The misfit Asari (Peebz) or The Matriarchs daughter (Liara) A crippled human Joker or a Salarian Kallo. Lexi vs Chakwas Gil or engineer Adams Sexy smuggler Vetra or Vigilante C-sec officer Garrus E.D.I or S.A.M Liam or Kaiden Jaal or Javik Suvi or Traynor Add your own. Aaaahhh, finally, was looking for a Shep vs. Ryder thread for a while now. Shep vs. Ryder would be interesting. How do they meet? If in space: Shep wins.Normandy with Thanix vs. Tempest with no weapons is an easy one. Sorry Tempest, all your beautiful glass windows are structural weaknesses, you go down. If in their cars: The MAKO may handle like crap but it's a tank with a mass accelerator cannon on top and it will blow up the Nomad easily. If SHep is in the Hammerhead, well, then Ryder only needs to touch it once and it will crumble, so even odds there. On foot: That's a tough one. Shep is an experienced N7 soldier, hero of the Citadel and a veteran against fighting the most menacing enemy to all life in the Milky Way. On the other hand, Ryder has SAM, which gives her an uncanny advantage. But since I play on PC where Shep can map up to 10 powers to hotkeys, this one goes to Shepard as well. Cora will wipe the floor with Ash. Asari huntress trained super biotic vs. Alliance Grunt? I don't even know why those two would have been matched against each other. Since Cora was too powerful to stay with humans, maybe matcher her against Jack (in which case,Cora would have lost because she'd have been distracted by the incoming barrage of swear words). Liara doesn't even have to fight Peebee because as the Shadow Broker, she knows everything about her. Since that is kinda Peebee Achilles heel (other people knowing stuff about her), she can be easily blackmailed or Liara can take advantage of Peebee's weaknesses and insecurities. Liara wins. Kallo will have trouble flying the Tempest because Gil changed something again and he needs to bitch about it. Joker will just shrug off any competition with a quip and wins the piloting contest.But only if there is no collector ship beam around that he can deliberately fly into. I am not going to compare Lexi and Chackwas, I refuse. Chackwas has that motherly streak while I wanted to romance Lexi, they are incompatible for a contest. Adams seems to be a by the book kinda guy while Gil really gets his hands dirty. For Gil, it's more a hobby or a calling than a job, so in an outright engineering competition 1 on 1, he wins. If they can bring teams though,Ken, Gabby and Adams will tune the crap out of the Normandy while Gil only gets bogged down by Kallo's nagging, so that's a different story. Vetra and Garrus: Well, he has reach, she has flexibility, so they might hold a tie breaker in their quarters. At that point, who cares who wins, don't we all? EDI vs. SAM is a tough one. On their own, EDI has direct control over the Normandy and the Eva Core body, so she has the advantage. However, if Ryder is around, SAM basically has his own Avatar in the real world, who is almost on Shepard's level, so that changes things. Also, I haven't unlocked all the SAM memories yet, so who knows but since EDI uses reaper tech, for now, I'd say she wins in terms of sheer computing power. Difficult match though. Kaidan is the second human Spectre, an experienced Biotic with BAAT training and high flaring implants, while Liam ... well, he used to have a cool job that he can't stop talking about? Not much more comes to mind really. Also, Kaiden can speak properly without swallowing half the words he's trying to say. So if he is not incapacitated by migraines, this one goes to Alenko. In Javik's cycle, they'd have put Jaal on latrine duty or something. No seriously, I get that fighting the Kett in the resistance is tough but Javik is the Avatar of Vengeance against the reapers for his people. He eats any angara for breakfast, trolling them while he does so. It's not even a competition. Suvi beats Traynor with her accent alone. Also, if Traynor were to do "the lick test", she'd immediately die from allergies or something. Suvi wins this round. So overall, I am realizing that that the Milky Way team is in the lead but hey, team Andromeda is still young and inexperienced. Give 'em another couple of games and we'll have a rematch.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Mar 31, 2017 17:22:22 GMT
Was it ever really established that the Cerberus implants did more than just keep Shep alive? I don't recall any info about enhanced abilities as a result. From what I understood, TIM wanted Shepard to be pretty much who/what s/he was before the Collector attack, not the MEU equivalent of the 6 million dollar man. Shepard can mention that they noticed a few upgrades during their first meeting. TIM didn't want to alter Shepard's personality didn't mind giving him some physical enhancements.
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Post by The Twilight God on Mar 31, 2017 17:36:52 GMT
Was it ever really established that the Cerberus implants did more than just keep Shep alive? I don't recall any info about enhanced abilities as a result. From what I understood, TIM wanted Shepard to be pretty much who/what s/he was before the Collector attack, not the MEU equivalent of the 6 million dollar man.
Unless you think he's always had super human strength I'm going to have to attribute it to the Cerberus cybernetics. You get further upgrades throughout the game too. Shepard is moving heavy metal plates off of squadmates and moving steel girders like it's nothing by the end. He can lift Grunt up with one arm if you bring him to the Reaper Terminator fight. Also recall that he can use Krogan weapons and that geth sniper rifle with the huge recoil because of his enhancements which is mentioned in the codex if I'm not mistaken. In the beginning of ME3 he is able to open a defunct blast door by himself. The proof is in the pudding.
And remember, he was the best of the N7's before the augmentations. If you think Ryder can tangle with that guy... you need to check yourself into a mental facility.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 31, 2017 18:01:09 GMT
You gotta love that gameplay segregation. I totally forgot about being able to drag up Grunt. It would have been hilarious if Grunt always died there because he weighs as much as 2 motorcycles and Shepard couldn't hoist him up alone.
As for krogan and geth weapons, all of our MP characters are superheroes.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Mar 31, 2017 18:16:44 GMT
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Post by SKAR on Mar 31, 2017 18:31:03 GMT
If Ryder stayed in the Alliance and the reapers never showed, I believe Ryder would have become a Talented N7 and perhaps even a spectre. He has skills and with some more experience down the road, possibly match shepard. He could have become Shepard's protege just like shep to anderson but that's an alternate timeline. He did have alliance training ad some from Alec Ryder who was N7 so who knows.
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Post by Blast Processor on Mar 31, 2017 18:31:33 GMT
Which brings us to Kalisah Bint Sinan Al-Jalani vs Keri Whats-her-face. One is a guaranteed biotic so that one's kinda easy. Khalisah took a punch from cyborg Shepard like a champ. She's as tough as a Krogan. A weak ass Asari would be no more a threat to her than an annoying insect.
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Post by Turian Werewolf on Mar 31, 2017 19:28:04 GMT
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Post by valkyriesr2 on Mar 31, 2017 19:32:35 GMT
"Sexy smuggler Vetra or Vigilante C-sec officer Garrus"
I imagine this is one of those battles where one has the flexibility, and the other has the reach.
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