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Post by VanSinn on Mar 31, 2017 3:33:57 GMT
I disagree there. Mass Effect 2 had one of the best plots I ever since back then.
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Post by Teddie Sage on Mar 31, 2017 10:09:14 GMT
What's so hard to understand? A lot of people loved ME2 for its simplicity and for the fact it was character focused, and the fact it had amazing gameplay for its time. To me it's a masterpiece. I'm done going off-rail for this thread.
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Post by pantherdane on Mar 31, 2017 10:28:58 GMT
Other than so many of the "standard" bugs, MEA MP is doing just fine. I know when I have completely randomly jumped since launch, I had no wait time at all for a PUG.
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Post by Kroitz on Mar 31, 2017 11:34:06 GMT
I've had maybe two stable games out of ten. As mentioned the hit detection is very wonky, which I attribute to the lag. Enemys warp over cover, get stuck in walls and are immune to damage. Also mission funds seem to be bugged for me, stuck at 50 after a couple apex-missions.
It's a frustrating mess.
Edit: Mission funds aren't bugged, I missed out on the reward-description that changed after I selected the mission.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 11:37:20 GMT
Other than so many of the "standard" bugs, MEA MP is doing just fine. I know when I have completely randomly jumped since launch, I had no wait time at all for a PUG. I did some on day one, and the going was very hard, so I went to play SP, but I started again a couple of days ago, and it is a blast. Waits are a bit longer than in ME3MP, because people tweak chars for a long time in thee lobbies, and I also leave lobbies if someone transmits bad static on their mike, but it's a bit different than ME3MP. The verticality is cool, there is only one map where it is too much of it for me. The character levelling is very slooow, but I can see character improve, and you do not have to relevel them, thankfully, despite what was feared for before launch. What else? Yes, there are some glitches, and I dislike it that you cannot toggle off autorun on the move. Overall though, good game and high time to play it now as it grows.
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Post by arreyanne on Mar 31, 2017 12:48:48 GMT
Just have to ask.
How many hours in the SP have you played. I ask because I personally believe now having played 60+ hours on one play thru that it rivals ME3, and with the community made ending and removal of Star Child,ME3 is my Fav of the series. Multi-what?
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 31, 2017 12:56:24 GMT
I get my money's worth in singleplayer. Right now, Bio needs to fix the lag and crashing issues before I can say the same about multiplayer.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 31, 2017 12:58:28 GMT
What's so hard to understand? A lot of people loved ME2 for its simplicity and for the fact it was character focused, and the fact it had amazing gameplay for its time. To me it's a masterpiece. I'm done going off-rail for this thread. Well sure, if we're talking about character focus and the fun factor of its gameplay and overall structure, then fine, but if we were talking about the actual plot under a more critical lens, it's kinda shit.
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Post by mordrek on Mar 31, 2017 13:05:54 GMT
Long story short Androma isn't what I expected. I thought this game would play like 3 with a story rivaling ME2. ME3 took a step forward with very linear levels. The series became a 3rd person shooter and has the best gameplay to date. ME3 was hated for its ending. Bioware panic like a sissy and scrapped everything, including the improvements for the series made with ME3, to distance Androma from the prior game. The combat in Andromeda is good though. MP is all about killing and blowing shit up. Do you get your money's worth from this game in multiplayer?Between the lag, and the crashing, I'd say no.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Mar 31, 2017 13:22:27 GMT
wat Gameplay was the same, albeit way easier in SP. In ME3??? No way, in fact I can't even start to see where you are coming from. For a start time dilation completely ruined Soldier, Infiltrator and Vanguard in SPer for me. In SPer the set piece battles peaked with the Grissom academy mission (right near the start) and from there on out got incredibly simple on insanity. There was much less variety in the combination of skills/dodges/melee and weapons available compared to MPer. ME3 MPer continuously got tuned and balanced, and although people bitched and moaned about their favourite weapon getting nerfed, the game ended up in a miuch, much better state than SPer which was left alone. If I wanted to play SPer in ME3 I would simply solo MPer and have a much more enjoyable experience. Yeah, like I said, easier. Difficulty doesn't constitute a fundamental change in the way the game is played. With the exception of two Collector weapons every weapon in MP was in SP (and for most people that couldn't sleep through soloing plat and/or play for a thousand hours it was only the latter where they actually got to use some of them). And while I love my dodge teleports, whether you roll or slide or hop is pure aesthetics, it doesn't fundamentally change how that mechanic works. In fact the the teleports were the only things that offered something new, though it was really situational. Yes there were some powers that were MP only but that's about it (and people eventually modded most of those in anyway). That might happen here too if they create new kits in MP DLCs that they don't also carry over to SP.
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Post by armass81 on Mar 31, 2017 13:34:45 GMT
Long story short Androma isn't what I expected. I thought this game would play like 3 with a story rivaling ME2. ME3 took a step forward with very linear levels. The series became a 3rd person shooter and has the best gameplay to date. ME3 was hated for its ending. Bioware panic like a sissy and scrapped everything, including the improvements for the series made with ME3, to distance Androma from the prior game. The combat in Andromeda is good though. MP is all about killing and blowing shit up. Do you get your money's worth from this game in multiplayer?Story rivalling ME2? You mean the collector plot? I think it has that beat imo, the collector plot was barely a skeleton.
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Post by projectpatdc on Mar 31, 2017 13:41:59 GMT
Long story short Androma isn't what I expected. I thought this game would play like 3 with a story rivaling ME2. ME3 took a step forward with very linear levels. The series became a 3rd person shooter and has the best gameplay to date. ME3 was hated for its ending. Bioware panic like a sissy and scrapped everything, including the improvements for the series made with ME3, to distance Androma from the prior game. The combat in Andromeda is good though. MP is all about killing and blowing shit up. Do you get your money's worth from this game in multiplayer?I would say the ME3 was a huge step backward for the series because of the boring linear design. It was a gears of war clone instead of being an open worldish RPG like the original Mass Effect game. There are tons of better 3rd person linear shooters but they're boring after you beat them once in 10-20 hours. Bioware didn't scrap anything. They made a RPG game like the original that is 70-150 hours long giving you actual freedom to play as you will. As for MP, it's great especially when you are playing with people you know, but it's really repetitive. I love the MP for it is, but it's just a way for me to Veg out and not think while doing constant repetitive combat. All in all, for the average gamer, no I don't think MP only is worth it, but I know a bunch of people bough For Honor and I would say MEA Multiplayer has more value than that entire game
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Post by chugster on Mar 31, 2017 14:53:30 GMT
Sorry to be that guy but SP means SinglePlayer and MP is Multiplayer...no need for the extra ER...your actually typing Singleplayerer/multiplayerer and it was triggering my OCD. As for getting my money's worth, ive 56 hours (so far, with 20 in SP), which i paid £54 for so thats less than £1 per hour for entertainment, considering my cheapest cinema gives me a roughly £2 per hour then I have defintately got my time out of MEA and I am no where near being done with this game...infact If i dont put in over 300 hours between MP and multiple SP PTs then I will be surprised...its what I did in ME1-3 and DA1-3.
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Post by R1Outcast on Mar 31, 2017 15:09:19 GMT
To each, his/her own I guess.
There's nothing to be redeemed imo. I enjoy ME:A singleplayer and multiplayer.
I do wish they would get their servers working better though.
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Post by ticktak77 on Mar 31, 2017 15:11:21 GMT
No.
Multiplayer cannot redeem single player.
A huge portion of the player base doesn't even touch the multiplayer, and only picks up Mass Effect for it's character focused, relationship-centric space soap opera story & compelling gameplay.
Plus, multiplayer is just glorified horde mode. It's not anything new or exciting we haven't seen before.
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Post by RageUnderFire on Mar 31, 2017 16:34:08 GMT
Long story short Androma isn't what I expected. I thought this game would play like 3 with a story rivaling ME2. ME3 took a step forward with very linear levels. The series became a 3rd person shooter and has the best gameplay to date. ME3 was hated for its ending. Bioware panic like a sissy and scrapped everything, including the improvements for the series made with ME3, to distance Androma from the prior game. The combat in Andromeda is good though. MP is all about killing and blowing shit up. Do you get your money's worth from this game in multiplayer?I would say the ME3 was a huge step backward for the series because of the boring linear design. It was a gears of war clone instead of being an open worldish RPG like the original Mass Effect game. There are tons of better 3rd person linear shooters but they're boring after you beat them once in 10-20 hours. Bioware didn't scrap anything. They made a RPG game like the original that is 70-150 hours long giving you actual freedom to play as you will. As for MP, it's great especially when you are playing with people you know, but it's really repetitive. I love the MP for it is, but it's just a way for me to Veg out and not think while doing constant repetitive combat. All in all, for the average gamer, no I don't think MP only is worth it, but I know a bunch of people bough For Honor and I would say MEA Multiplayer has more value than that entire game You mistaken original for best and use subjective measures. People vote with their wallets. ME2 is best. It broke away from that open world freedom crap. If I want open world freedom, I get off my ass leave the house and meet new people. Not try to play life through a video game.
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Post by projectpatdc on Mar 31, 2017 16:56:48 GMT
I would say the ME3 was a huge step backward for the series because of the boring linear design. It was a gears of war clone instead of being an open worldish RPG like the original Mass Effect game. There are tons of better 3rd person linear shooters but they're boring after you beat them once in 10-20 hours. Bioware didn't scrap anything. They made a RPG game like the original that is 70-150 hours long giving you actual freedom to play as you will. As for MP, it's great especially when you are playing with people you know, but it's really repetitive. I love the MP for it is, but it's just a way for me to Veg out and not think while doing constant repetitive combat. All in all, for the average gamer, no I don't think MP only is worth it, but I know a bunch of people bough For Honor and I would say MEA Multiplayer has more value than that entire game You mistaken original for best and use subjective measures. People vote with their wallets. ME2 is best. It broke away from that open world freedom crap. If I want open world freedom, I get off my ass leave the house and meet new people. Not try to play life through a video game. Nor do I want a linear story book. I'd rather watch a movie. Getting off your ass and meeting people in real life is a weird comparison/solution. Who says you can't do that and play a game without dumbed down hand holding. And just because most people bought ME2 the most doesn't mean it's the best. It means it was most accessible and quickly entertaining game. It wasn't the best IMO
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Mar 31, 2017 17:11:12 GMT
Lol implying that the game needs redemption. It basically just needs a few patches and some good DLC. I don't give a damn about multiplayer as long as multiplayer can generate a decent amount of additional revenue to help keep the franchise lucrative so we can get future installments.
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Post by Wintermist on Mar 31, 2017 19:48:35 GMT
Lol implying that the game needs redemption. It basically just needs a few patches and some good DLC. I don't give a damn about multiplayer as long as multiplayer can generate a decent amount of additional revenue to help keep the franchise lucrative so we can get future installments. I think what he meant was that if he didn't like the singleplayer if he could still consider it a full game just by playing the multiplayer. Atleast that's what I responded to
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