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Post by brownfinger on Mar 31, 2017 13:43:12 GMT
I wanted to get my thoughts out before I go back and read the thread, so I apologize if I'm repeating anything already stated by others. I didn't really watch any iteration of Star Trek until recently when I hit 30, it was so poorly presented that my suspension of disbelief was crushed once the phenomenal actors stopped speaking. I learned to appreciate it in my own way, but Mass Effect satisfies that same need without me feeling like I need to compromise to enjoy it. So Mass Effect is my Star Trek, I guess? Engaging the aliens rather than annihilating them, striving for mutual benefit while unraveling something dark and complex. Mass Effect is vast and ambitious, it's the only time I can talk to people for two full hours and at a time and not get bored. It's the clean and shiny science fiction aesthetic I crave, crafted with a mind towards making you feel a certain way. As all the best artistic endeavors do. And it works because I care about these characters and the universe they inhabit, which is a credit to the fine work of many.
So I won't call the way Andromeda has been handled to be negligent, because I've enjoyed much of my experience with it. But I think the small things that hold the game back are far too numerous for me to reasonably excuse, and most of them are on the technical side.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 31, 2017 14:11:00 GMT
Exploring space.
One of my favorite bits in MEA is flying to a random planet, leaving the galaxy map, and just looking at the planet from the ship windows with the backdrop of space.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 14:18:22 GMT
I just love Salarians and space sex but not both at the same time of course.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 31, 2017 14:22:31 GMT
Exploring space. One of my favorite bits in MEA is flying to a random planet, leaving the galaxy map, and just looking at the planet from the ship windows with the backdrop of space. I liked that as well, but I also enjoyed those moments when the game reveled in its own alien backdrop in a cutscene, like this moment when I first got to Havarl.
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Post by psychomunkay on Mar 31, 2017 14:28:05 GMT
just another videogame in a long line of videogames i play/played.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Mar 31, 2017 18:34:11 GMT
So why not elaborate for the second time on why it's a bad sign if people that enjoyedME1but not the second are enjoying Andromeda? Look at it this way. There are people who like ME2 the most and there are people who like ME1. I'm guessing you're in the second group and take offense to that? I do like the first the best, but I don't take offense nor do I see why I should. There still has yet to be a reason "why" what you're saying is bad though. Does ME2 not owe its setup to ME1? If ME1 was awful it wouldn't have set the sequel up so well as it did.plus, as I stated earlier, Andromeda being more like the first rather than 2 and 3 is already selling better than the first and the second so far (doesn't mean a game like two or three wouldn't do just as good if not better)I don't think the numbers lie on that. Andromeda may be like the furst, but it's also very different where I could argue it if I wanted. Combat is completely different, the exploration aspects both use aren't similar either. One is much more in depth on squad dialogue than the other, one also has more things to do in its worlds than the other.
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Post by abedsbrother on Mar 31, 2017 20:41:09 GMT
Mass Effect is watching one of your soldiers die while you're helpless to stop it. It's helping an alien general rediscover his pride. It's fighting aggressive enemies while marching on the outside of a space station, mag boots keeping you surface-bound. It's saving the galaxy from a turncoat operative. It's rescuing fanatics from themselves. It's creating peace where possible, and leaving a bloody trail where it is not. It's traveling to the darkest reaches of the galaxy to look for clues. It's finding someone who can share that journey. It's facing an insurmountable task with no one to help but the people around you. It's helping one of your crew be acquitted of treason. Or helping them find revenge. Or peace. It's helping someone see through false ideals to what really matters. It's missing the thrown bottle on purpose while at the top of the Presidium.
I should go.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Mar 31, 2017 23:18:51 GMT
Look at it this way. There are people who like ME2 the most and there are people who like ME1. I'm guessing you're in the second group and take offense to that? I do like the first the best, but I don't take offense nor do I see why I should. There still has yet to be a reason "why" what you're saying is bad though. Does ME2 not owe its setup to ME1? If ME1 was awful it wouldn't have set the sequel up so well as it did.plus, as I stated earlier, Andromeda being more like the first rather than 2 and 3 is already selling better than the first and the second so far (doesn't mean a game like two or three wouldn't do just as good if not better)I don't think the numbers lie on that. Andromeda may be like the furst, but it's also very different where I could argue it if I wanted. Combat is completely different, the exploration aspects both use aren't similar either. One is much more in depth on squad dialogue than the other, one also has more things to do in its worlds than the other. I didn't say ME1 was awful either. Not sure what you're trying to debate but its not anything I've written.
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Post by Arcian on Mar 31, 2017 23:43:13 GMT
What makes Mass effect a Mass Effect game. I have a theory it is going to vary from person to person. For me, a ME game is one that allows me to customize my character, take place in space, have third person action combat with different powers/skills, and allow me to have some choice in the story since 100% choice technology isn't here yet. MEA has all of that. To me having a good story is just a bonus, and I happen to like the Firefly vibe MEA has because the it's the end of the world serious vibe is way over done in todays games. That is my take on it, so for all of you who are saying it doesn't feel ME enough. What makes a ME game a ME game? Also, there is no one conclusive opinion on it since clearly we can't all agree. ME to me is the setting and the story established in ME1 and developed in ME2 and ME3. You know, the things they torched when they made this game.
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 1, 2017 5:26:35 GMT
Torched? How so? Story's still there, and much of the setting came with us.
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Apr 1, 2017 5:36:15 GMT
What makes Mass effect a Mass Effect game. I have a theory it is going to vary from person to person. For me, a ME game is one that allows me to customize my character, take place in space, have third person action combat with different powers/skills, and allow me to have some choice in the story since 100% choice technology isn't here yet. MEA has all of that. To me having a good story is just a bonus, and I happen to like the Firefly vibe MEA has because the it's the end of the world serious vibe is way over done in todays games. That is my take on it, so for all of you who are saying it doesn't feel ME enough. What makes a ME game a ME game? Also, there is no one conclusive opinion on it since clearly we can't all agree. ME to me is the setting and the story established in ME1 and developed in ME2 and ME3. You know, the things they torched when they made this game. Like I said, all opinions are welcome. There is no wrong or right on what ME is.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Apr 1, 2017 6:51:59 GMT
Mass Effect is a universe that is alive. Filled with the heart beat of life that populate its worlds, with diversity that encourage eyes and minds to engage, explore, taste and understand the contrasting values of those living essences. It is filled with verve, passion, dynamism, emotion. It is filled with wonders and dangers that is terrifying and beyond comprehension, that makes you realise that you are but a dust mote in the universe. Yet for all that fear, terror and uncertainty, it challenges you to surmount the death that may come and fight for your place, for what you believe in.
... I'm referring to MET btw.
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Post by starman on Apr 1, 2017 9:24:44 GMT
Mass Effect is watching one of your soldiers die while you're helpless to stop it. It's helping an alien general rediscover his pride. It's fighting aggressive enemies while marching on the outside of a space station, mag boots keeping you surface-bound. It's saving the galaxy from a turncoat operative. It's rescuing fanatics from themselves. It's creating peace where possible, and leaving a bloody trail where it is not. It's traveling to the darkest reaches of the galaxy to look for clues. It's finding someone who can share that journey. It's facing an insurmountable task with no one to help but the people around you. It's helping one of your crew be acquitted of treason. Or helping them find revenge. Or peace. It's helping someone see through false ideals to what really matters. It's missing the thrown bottle on purpose while at the top of the Presidium. I should go. Well Said!! Mass effect brings that child within to life, or should i say keeps that child alive inside of us all,no matter how old one gets,,hell im 57 and i still have the kid very much alive inside, its that child that can see all sorts of things in there imagination and play it out in a real world while not worrying what or who sees them... not worrying or hearing the sneers or laughter but rather totally immersed in the world of which is viewed by our eyes....wouldn't swap that feeling for the world!
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 1, 2017 9:33:31 GMT
What makes Mass effect a Mass Effect game. I have a theory it is going to vary from person to person. For me, a ME game is one that allows me to customize my character, take place in space, have third person action combat with different powers/skills, and allow me to have some choice in the story since 100% choice technology isn't here yet. MEA has all of that. To me having a good story is just a bonus, and I happen to like the Firefly vibe MEA has because the it's the end of the world serious vibe is way over done in todays games. That is my take on it, so for all of you who are saying it doesn't feel ME enough. What makes a ME game a ME game? Also, there is no one conclusive opinion on it since clearly we can't all agree. ME to me is the setting and the story established in ME1 and developed in ME2 and ME3. You know, the things they torched when they made this game. According to the forumites of Ye Olde BSN, those things were torched in those games already. You can't re-burn ashes.
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Post by Dean The Not-so Young on Apr 2, 2017 3:19:32 GMT
ME to me is the setting and the story established in ME1 and developed in ME2 and ME3. You know, the things they torched when they made this game. According to the forumites of Ye Olde BSN, those things were torched in those games already. You can't re-burn ashes. Well, you know what they say- ash seeketh ember. (DS3 reference. Too good to pass up.)
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 2, 2017 4:27:00 GMT
Well slap my typeface and call me wingdings, it's Dean!
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Post by House Targaryen on Apr 2, 2017 6:51:45 GMT
Skyrim in space. And laser guns.
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