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Post by themightypanda on Mar 31, 2017 0:49:17 GMT
So who the hell is the benefactor?
I was soooo looking forward in finding out who killed Garson but it just stopped after memory 4. WTF. DLC? arrrrrrrrrrrrgh
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Post by themightypanda on Mar 31, 2017 0:59:35 GMT
Why do I get an itch that Cerberus is a part of this.
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Post by Fogg on Mar 31, 2017 1:01:55 GMT
I hope so. Cora might still be the Illusive Man's daughter. All the space opera drama!
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Post by RageUnderFire on Mar 31, 2017 1:04:01 GMT
Why do I get an itch that Cerberus is a part of this. that big ass remnant is thresher maw 2.0 HEHEHEHEHE
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 1:04:16 GMT
Best guess right now is The Illusive Man (TIM). He saw the Reaper threat coming with ME2 and ME3. Also, Cora's last name is Harper, TIM's actual last name. So perhaps we aren't done with Cora, yet, or TIM. Edit: 'd by Fogg
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Post by RageUnderFire on Mar 31, 2017 1:14:01 GMT
Best guess right now is The Illusive Man (TIM). He saw the Reaper threat coming with ME2 and ME3. Also, Cora's last name is Harper, TIM's actual last name. So perhaps we aren't done with Cora, yet, or TIM. Edit: 'd by Fogg and cora is secretly a cerberus sleeper agent who we screwed also. Decent rack like Miranda who they originally drafted as blonde.
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Post by themightypanda on Mar 31, 2017 1:30:19 GMT
Best guess right now is The Illusive Man (TIM). He saw the Reaper threat coming with ME2 and ME3. Also, Cora's last name is Harper, TIM's actual last name. So perhaps we aren't done with Cora, yet, or TIM. Edit: 'd by Fogg but the benefactor is hinted to be IN Andromeda, TIM is dead.
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Best guess right now is The Illusive Man (TIM). He saw the Reaper threat coming with ME2 and ME3. Also, Cora's last name is Harper, TIM's actual last name. So perhaps we aren't done with Cora, yet, or TIM. Edit: 'd by Fogg but the benefactor is hinted to be IN Andromeda, TIM is dead. Where did you get that notion? I don't recall, personally. Putting in hours on this game makes it tough to catch every detail. From my recollection, it seemed like Jien got cold feet prior to leaving the Milky Way, sent a message to a newly cryo-sleeping Alec before she, too, went to sleep, and Alec got her message after he awoke in Andromeda. Jien got murdered in Andromeda. But didn't the Benefactor's communications/messages only play in and originate from the Milky Way, not Andromeda? If Cerberus is at large again, and signs point to yes as it was humanity that got the boost and humanity that needed to continue even if the Milky Way's humanity died, then chances are good that TIM was directly involved, especially considering his paranoia in ME 2. If TIM isn't the Benefactor, then it could be an underling or a new character akin to a human Shadow Broker. On a meta level, it could be that Bioware has yet to secure Martin Sheen's voice again. But to me, Benefactor implies $$$, so that's all TIM, supremely wealthy. Then there's the Cora connection, so... Anyway, it excited me to think that Alec has so much in common with Anakin/Darth Vader (e.g., twin son/daughter, sacrificing a noble career, turning to the forbidden, trying to save a dying wife) that I was really hoping (c'mon, Bioware, this is in your wheelhouse!) that TIM was going to be revealed as Emperor Palpatine/Darth Sidious. Ha ha.
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Post by Archangel on Mar 31, 2017 3:18:34 GMT
The Benefactor has to be TIM, to make it some new person we've never heard of would feel a little too Kai Leng-ish.
It makes perfect sense with Cora's last name and TIM knowing about the reaper threat. It's also very like TIM to want to make sure humans survive.
(Meta)
Bioware also needs their "see, racism is bad" virtue signaling group and the Roekerr were bland at that.
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Post by RageUnderFire on Mar 31, 2017 3:33:22 GMT
I just finished all the videos.
Now that was some good story writing.
Andromeda has potential. I imagine the next game will be better. ME2 2.0 if you will
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Post by Karin Davis on Mar 31, 2017 3:51:29 GMT
I'm going to go with the Illusive Man, creepy mf. No other person can scream such a big-deal "benefactor" then this guy used to be. I so hope to god I'm wrong.
Edit: Remember ME:A is supposed to sit between ME2 and ME3 timeline wise!
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Post by DalishRanger on Mar 31, 2017 4:03:27 GMT
but the benefactor is hinted to be IN Andromeda, TIM is dead. Where did you get that notion? I don't recall, personally. Putting in hours on this game makes it tough to catch every detail. From my recollection, it seemed like Jien got cold feet prior to leaving the Milky Way, sent a message to a newly cryo-sleeping Alec before she, too, went to sleep, and Alec got her message after he awoke in Andromeda. Jien got murdered in Andromeda. But didn't the Benefactor's communications/messages only play in and originate from the Milky Way, not Andromeda? If Cerberus is at large again, and signs point to yes as it was humanity that got the boost and humanity that needed to continue even if the Milky Way's humanity died, then chances are good that TIM was directly involved, especially considering his paranoia in ME 2. If TIM isn't the Benefactor, then it could be an underling or a new character akin to a human Shadow Broker. On a meta level, it could be that Bioware has yet to secure Martin Sheen's voice again. But to me, Benefactor implies $$$, so that's all TIM, supremely wealthy. Then there's the Cora connection, so... Anyway, it excited me to think that Alec has so much in common with Anakin/Darth Vader (e.g., twin son/daughter, sacrificing a noble career, turning to the forbidden, trying to save a dying wife) that I was really hoping (c'mon, Bioware, this is in your wheelhouse!) that TIM was going to be revealed as Emperor Palpatine/Darth Sidious. Ha ha. In the prequel novel, Nexus Uprising, Jien is awakened and alive when they reach Andromeda, and disappears shortly after the collision with the Scourge. Not to mention her corpse was too fresh to be 600 years old or frozen when they found it. She was not killed in the Milky Way, so unless TIM cloned himself or can be in two places at once, he's not the murderer.
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Post by RageUnderFire on Mar 31, 2017 4:03:41 GMT
I'm going to go with the Illusive Man, creepy mf. No other person can scream such a big-deal "benefactor" then this guy used to be. I so hope to god I'm wrong. Edit: Remember ME:A is supposed to sit between ME2 and ME3 timeline wise! TIM immediately came to mind when I heard the sound of a human voice and big pockets. But he stayed behind in the MWG. Perhaps he cloned himself. He obv has the tech to do so.
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Post by RageUnderFire on Mar 31, 2017 4:05:17 GMT
Where did you get that notion? I don't recall, personally. Putting in hours on this game makes it tough to catch every detail. From my recollection, it seemed like Jien got cold feet prior to leaving the Milky Way, sent a message to a newly cryo-sleeping Alec before she, too, went to sleep, and Alec got her message after he awoke in Andromeda. Jien got murdered in Andromeda. But didn't the Benefactor's communications/messages only play in and originate from the Milky Way, not Andromeda? If Cerberus is at large again, and signs point to yes as it was humanity that got the boost and humanity that needed to continue even if the Milky Way's humanity died, then chances are good that TIM was directly involved, especially considering his paranoia in ME 2. If TIM isn't the Benefactor, then it could be an underling or a new character akin to a human Shadow Broker. On a meta level, it could be that Bioware has yet to secure Martin Sheen's voice again. But to me, Benefactor implies $$$, so that's all TIM, supremely wealthy. Then there's the Cora connection, so... Anyway, it excited me to think that Alec has so much in common with Anakin/Darth Vader (e.g., twin son/daughter, sacrificing a noble career, turning to the forbidden, trying to save a dying wife) that I was really hoping (c'mon, Bioware, this is in your wheelhouse!) that TIM was going to be revealed as Emperor Palpatine/Darth Sidious. Ha ha. In the prequel novel, Nexus Uprising, Jien is awakened and alive when they reach Andromeda, and disappears shortly after the collision with the Scourge. Not to mention her corpse was too fresh to be 600 years old or frozen when they found it. She was not killed in the Milky Way, so unless TIM cloned himself or can be in two places at once, he's not the Mikey. Cerberus scientific experiments are fascinating. It's like digging into the Nazis work--neither are limited by morality
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Post by Karin Davis on Mar 31, 2017 4:06:49 GMT
I was making a very bad attempt to attract the attention of all the ME2 fanboys 'n girls. The second game is my least favourite cause it differs most from the rest, the reason most people PREFER it apparently. I found the Illusive man very cocky, and unwarranted. Fixing my dead body just cause he *ucking felt like it. Whatever Cerberus, get bent. Is a reason you got destroyed in MP in ME3. But logically, why not the Illusive Man!
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Post by Archangel on Mar 31, 2017 4:16:54 GMT
Where did you get that notion? I don't recall, personally. Putting in hours on this game makes it tough to catch every detail. From my recollection, it seemed like Jien got cold feet prior to leaving the Milky Way, sent a message to a newly cryo-sleeping Alec before she, too, went to sleep, and Alec got her message after he awoke in Andromeda. Jien got murdered in Andromeda. But didn't the Benefactor's communications/messages only play in and originate from the Milky Way, not Andromeda? If Cerberus is at large again, and signs point to yes as it was humanity that got the boost and humanity that needed to continue even if the Milky Way's humanity died, then chances are good that TIM was directly involved, especially considering his paranoia in ME 2. If TIM isn't the Benefactor, then it could be an underling or a new character akin to a human Shadow Broker. On a meta level, it could be that Bioware has yet to secure Martin Sheen's voice again. But to me, Benefactor implies $$$, so that's all TIM, supremely wealthy. Then there's the Cora connection, so... Anyway, it excited me to think that Alec has so much in common with Anakin/Darth Vader (e.g., twin son/daughter, sacrificing a noble career, turning to the forbidden, trying to save a dying wife) that I was really hoping (c'mon, Bioware, this is in your wheelhouse!) that TIM was going to be revealed as Emperor Palpatine/Darth Sidious. Ha ha. In the prequel novel, Nexus Uprising, Jien is awakened and alive when they reach Andromeda, and disappears shortly after the collision with the Scourge. Not to mention her corpse was too fresh to be 600 years old or frozen when they found it. She was not killed in the Milky Way, so unless TIM cloned himself or can be in two places at once, he's not the murderer. TIM doesn't do anything himself save for confronting Shepard in the Citadel Tower, everything is done by agents. Giarsen was killed by one of his agents.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 4:19:53 GMT
Where did you get that notion? I don't recall, personally. Putting in hours on this game makes it tough to catch every detail. From my recollection, it seemed like Jien got cold feet prior to leaving the Milky Way, sent a message to a newly cryo-sleeping Alec before she, too, went to sleep, and Alec got her message after he awoke in Andromeda. Jien got murdered in Andromeda. But didn't the Benefactor's communications/messages only play in and originate from the Milky Way, not Andromeda? If Cerberus is at large again, and signs point to yes as it was humanity that got the boost and humanity that needed to continue even if the Milky Way's humanity died, then chances are good that TIM was directly involved, especially considering his paranoia in ME 2. If TIM isn't the Benefactor, then it could be an underling or a new character akin to a human Shadow Broker. On a meta level, it could be that Bioware has yet to secure Martin Sheen's voice again. But to me, Benefactor implies $$$, so that's all TIM, supremely wealthy. Then there's the Cora connection, so... Anyway, it excited me to think that Alec has so much in common with Anakin/Darth Vader (e.g., twin son/daughter, sacrificing a noble career, turning to the forbidden, trying to save a dying wife) that I was really hoping (c'mon, Bioware, this is in your wheelhouse!) that TIM was going to be revealed as Emperor Palpatine/Darth Sidious. Ha ha. In the prequel novel, Nexus Uprising, Jien is awakened and alive when they reach Andromeda, and disappears shortly after the collision with the Scourge. Not to mention her corpse was too fresh to be 600 years old or frozen when they found it. She was not killed in the Milky Way, so unless TIM cloned himself or can be in two places at once, he's not the murderer. With all due respect, that's not what I was saying. I thought the Benefactor only communicated with Jien back in the Milky Way. Yes, she was murdered in Andromeda, but I was suggesting that 1) she didn't get a communication from the Benefactor in Andromeda, and 2) the one who killed her wasn't the Benefactor. So it's possible TIM was the Benefactor - back in the Milky Way. I'm saying the Benefactor merely funded the expedition, but in Andromeda (where TIM's dead), someone new is probably in charge and someone new murdered Jien.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 4:24:47 GMT
In the prequel novel, Nexus Uprising, Jien is awakened and alive when they reach Andromeda, and disappears shortly after the collision with the Scourge. Not to mention her corpse was too fresh to be 600 years old or frozen when they found it. She was not killed in the Milky Way, so unless TIM cloned himself or can be in two places at once, he's not the Mikey. Cerberus scientific experiments are fascinating. It's like digging into the Nazis work--neither are limited by morality There were eerie similarities between ME1/ME Infiltrator Cerberus and the Kett. Different agendas, but similar actions of study/dissection.
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Post by DalishRanger on Mar 31, 2017 4:29:06 GMT
With all due respect, that's not what I was saying. I thought the Benefactor only communicated with Jien back in the Milky Way. Yes, she was murdered in Andromeda, but I was suggesting that 1) she didn't get a communication from the Benefactor in Andromeda, and 2) the one who killed her wasn't the Benefactor. So it's possible TIM was the Benefactor - back in the Milky Way. I'm saying the Benefactor merely funded the expedition, but in Andromeda (where TIM's dead), someone new is probably in charge and someone new murdered Jien. Sorry, on mobile and things jump a lot when the pages loads. I was trying to quote someone else and it looks like I miss-tapped. I do agree that TIM is a possibility for the benefactor themselves. Same goes to the post above yours; not going to double quote on mobile - I see a TIM agent as more likely than TIM himself, though I personally would rather leave TIM out of Andromeda entirely beyond the Benefactor possibility.
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Post by mrtijger on Mar 31, 2017 13:10:56 GMT
Why do I get an itch that Cerberus is a part of this. Doesnt compute, TIM wouldnt fund arks for all the other races but just send a human ark out. Also, the Benefactor seems to know or at the very least suspect about the Reapers before Shepard becomes aware of them and any evidence is uncovered.
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Post by mrtijger on Mar 31, 2017 13:12:26 GMT
The Benefactor has to be TIM, to make it some new person we've never heard of would feel a little too Kai Leng-ish. It makes perfect sense with Cora's last name and TIM knowing about the reaper threat. It's also very like TIM to want to make sure humans survive. (Meta) Bioware also needs their "see, racism is bad" virtue signaling group and the Roekerr were bland at that. Can people like you just f*ck off, please and stop trying to inject this kind of alt-right BS into anything and everything? Thanks.
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Post by valkyriesr2 on Mar 31, 2017 13:21:59 GMT
My money is on the Shadow Broker.
He/she knew about the Reapers. Has the network to build the cruicible (well Liara did, after taking over), which is comparable in scale and perhaps even more technologically challenging. The Yagh we fought in Lair of the Shadow Broker is stated to be a pet captured by the former Shadow Broker according to Liara. Liara thinks that the Yagh killed the previous Shadow Broker. I think she's wrong. I think the Yagh was given the network on purpose and it was made to look like the previous Shadow Broker was killed by that Yagh. That way the Shadow Broker can carry on with his or her shady business in a new galaxy without being bwwrrrrt'ed by the Reapers.
There is absolutely no way it is the Illusive Man. He was indoctrinated and died in Mass Effect 3. I cannot find any way he could have made it to Andromeda, especially since he was in the Milky Way AFTER that the Arks left for Andromeda.
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Post by Lost Mercenary on Mar 31, 2017 13:27:08 GMT
My money is on the Shadow Broker. He/she knew about the Reapers. Has the network to build the cruicible (well Liara did, after taking over), which is comparable in scale and perhaps even more technologically challenging. The Yagh we fought in Lair of the Shadow Broker is stated to be a pet captured by the former Shadow Broker according to Liara. Liara thinks that the Yagh killed the previous Shadow Broker. I think she's wrong. I think the Yagh was given the network on purpose and it was made to look like the previous Shadow Broker was killed by that Yagh. That way the Shadow Broker can carry on with his or her shady business in a new galaxy without being bwwrrrrt'ed by the Reapers. There is absolutely no way it is the Illusive Man. He was indoctrinated and died in Mass Effect 3. I cannot find any way he could have made it to Andromeda, especially since he was in the Milky Way AFTER that the Arks left for Andromeda. He may be the king of intelligence resources in the galaxy but I don't believe for a second Shadow Broker has THAT much cash. Garson was multi multi billionaire and even she ran of money. TIM though has many wealthy backers.
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Post by valkyriesr2 on Mar 31, 2017 13:39:29 GMT
My money is on the Shadow Broker. He/she knew about the Reapers. Has the network to build the cruicible (well Liara did, after taking over), which is comparable in scale and perhaps even more technologically challenging. The Yagh we fought in Lair of the Shadow Broker is stated to be a pet captured by the former Shadow Broker according to Liara. Liara thinks that the Yagh killed the previous Shadow Broker. I think she's wrong. I think the Yagh was given the network on purpose and it was made to look like the previous Shadow Broker was killed by that Yagh. That way the Shadow Broker can carry on with his or her shady business in a new galaxy without being bwwrrrrt'ed by the Reapers. There is absolutely no way it is the Illusive Man. He was indoctrinated and died in Mass Effect 3. I cannot find any way he could have made it to Andromeda, especially since he was in the Milky Way AFTER that the Arks left for Andromeda. He may be the king of intelligence resources in the galaxy but I don't believe for a second Shadow Broker has THAT much cash. Garson was multi multi billionaire and even she ran of money. TIM though has many wealthy backers. Again How can it be the Illusive Man when he was in the Milky Way AFTER the Arks left?Furthermore we don't really have any knowledge of how large the network of the Shadow Broker was. But it was large enough to reach the highest echelons of government for several species. To assume that the reach of the Shadow Broker extends into large corporations and many other means of procuring credits and resources is far from difficult to imagine.
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