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Post by sriep on Mar 31, 2017 20:37:41 GMT
The basic style of MEA and DAI is similar with different areas/planets that you gain control of using camps/forward-stations. With various tasks to complete each area/planet.
In DAI the emphasis was on getting Corypheus. So to be immersive you should do as much of each map as you need to get Corypheus and no more. Completing each map was not immersive, as, why are you wasting your time on trivia while Corypheus is still there?
The difference in MEA is that it now does make sense to complete each map. You are after all the tough guys that are making sure the planet is safe for when the soft civilians arrive. It is now immersive to complete each planet.
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Post by psychomunkay on Mar 31, 2017 20:41:16 GMT
Enthesis?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 20:42:58 GMT
The spell-check strikes again. Should be "emphasis" probably.
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Post by Zemgus on Mar 31, 2017 20:43:12 GMT
I think MEA handles the (semi) open world much better. Combat is also better than it's ever been. However, DAI's CC, characters, dialogue, choices, war table (vs apex missions), perks (vs cryo pods), story, etc, are all way better than MEA's, so...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 20:45:39 GMT
I think MEA handles the (semi) open world much better. Combat is also better than it's ever been. However, DAI's CC, characters, dialogue, choices, war table (vs apex missions), perks (vs cryo pods), story, etc, are all way better than MEA's, so... Disagree. Prefer everything listed in ME:A version. By a large margin. The only thing that was memorable in DA:I for me was Dorian. Also, was cool to play a Qunari. In every other category Andromeda wins over unmodded Inquisition.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 31, 2017 20:49:48 GMT
Woulda been cool to have dialogue perks, because I love more extensive dialogue, particularly if it can get science-y.
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Post by Zemgus on Mar 31, 2017 20:50:20 GMT
I think MEA handles the (semi) open world much better. Combat is also better than it's ever been. However, DAI's CC, characters, dialogue, choices, war table (vs apex missions), perks (vs cryo pods), story, etc, are all way better than MEA's, so... Disagree. Prefer everything listed in ME:A version. By a large margin. The only thing that was memorable in DA:I for me was Dorian. Also, was cool to play a Qunari. In every other category Andromeda wins over unmodded Inquisition. You think MEA's CC is better? Honestly? What about the limited dialogue options and the overuse of autodialogue? MEA makes DAI look damn near perfect in both those categories.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 20:54:20 GMT
Disagree. Prefer everything listed in ME:A version. By a large margin. The only thing that was memorable in DA:I for me was Dorian. Also, was cool to play a Qunari. In every other category Andromeda wins over unmodded Inquisition. You think MEA's CC is better? Honestly? What about the limited dialogue options and the overuse of autodialogue? MEA makes DAI look damn near perfect in both those categories. I think the trade off is that Ryder actually has personality, while the Inquisitor is very dull and doesn't really have any growth until Trespasser. I agree with everything you listed above though. I think Inquisition is a much better game than Andromeda, even though i have issues with it aswell. Things ME:A does better is combat, exploration and world building. I still like the characters, but they all get along and there is no conflict. Inquisition had plenty of tension and conflict, i miss that.
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Post by Scottphoto on Mar 31, 2017 20:54:32 GMT
I like both a lot, although I still prefer sci fi genre over the dragon age one. Story wise I like more Andromeda. Dragon age focused a little too much on Corypheus being a powerful villain but I never felt he was. I'm not a fan of the Archon either but there was a lot of other elements connected to the story like the remnant stuff that made things more interesting. Instead of, we have to group up to kill off Archon and that's it. Sidequest wise, I liked them more in Mass Effect as well because I had the goal of making the planets be viable and stable for my outposts. In Dragon Age they sometimes get really derailed from the main plot points.
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Post by derrame on Mar 31, 2017 20:56:31 GMT
in both games the protagonists finds some ancient technology, and the bad guys want it too and there is a squad mate who was already investigating that technology
the prothean beachon, the anchora, the pathfinder's arm with SAM
the inquisitor and pathfinder, both raise the arm to use, control the techology/magic
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 21:01:46 GMT
Disagree. Prefer everything listed in ME:A version. By a large margin. The only thing that was memorable in DA:I for me was Dorian. Also, was cool to play a Qunari. In every other category Andromeda wins over unmodded Inquisition. You think MEA's CC is better? Honestly? What about the limited dialogue options and the overuse of autodialogue? MEA makes DAI look damn near perfect in both those categories. Yes, I honestly prefer ME:A cc to DA:I unmodded for Humans. More ethnic diversity and easier to make a character you like the look of that looks real. No overly high foreheads, that shining skin sheen, plaster hair and eyelashes. yes, complexion would be nice, and stuff but overall the result is better imo, even if the process is not as complex. For me the result is more important than process. I played Qunari anyway, but when I tried to make human... yeah, ME:A is my pick. And I am not even going to start on the Elves turned into loli. Really, I thought BioWARE had standards. Yes, I like the dialogue more, because I can get more emotional range from the Left Side vs Right Side Ryder in the first five minutes of a game than from the full 60 hour run out of the Inquisitor. His VA highlight was the "Let's go do something fun!" to Dorian with the false enthusiasm one addresses himself to a 5 yo child to play Candyland. Again. His voice was pleasant, but that's it. The text was forgettable and so was delivery. Particularly next to Dorian, whose VA was outdoing himself brightly and cheerfully going through his awesome material. Plus, OMG, there actually IS dialogue in ME:A. Characters always banter, while DA:I went mostly in frustrated silence & nearly all communication was handled via reading notes. Then, suddenly, in Trespasser he started cracking awkward jokes, desperately trying to be more like Hawke. Either Leliana or Cassandra commented to the extent of not being able to do without his sense of humor. I have collected my jaw off the floor. I am not a big fan of the Autodialogue, but Inquisitor does it plenty as well, and far less successfully than the Ryder. In fact, I felt Ryder has more options than Inquisitor, even though it is likely not true. It's just she seem to participate and feel it.
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Post by jpcab on Mar 31, 2017 21:03:07 GMT
First what is dai and in what way it is related to Mass Effect?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 21:04:25 GMT
First what is dai and in what way it is related to Mass Effect? Dragon Age: Inquisition, the game that was released before Mass Effect: Andromeda and that also featured an Open World take on an established custom Bioware verse.
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Post by jpcab on Mar 31, 2017 21:08:33 GMT
Thanks but that is a game completely different in his mechanics..i think.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 21:12:37 GMT
Thanks but that is a game completely different in his mechanics..i think. Not really. It is very similar in every aspect, save for the backdrop and costumes. Same theatre, different play.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 31, 2017 22:41:13 GMT
If you had Mako and cinematic conversations to quest-finishers in DA:I it would've been its saving grace.
It's made the formula enjoyable but it's still a grating grind.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 31, 2017 23:27:13 GMT
You think MEA's CC is better? Honestly? What about the limited dialogue options and the overuse of autodialogue? MEA makes DAI look damn near perfect in both those categories. Yes, I honestly prefer ME:A cc to DA:I unmodded for Humans. More ethnic diversity and easier to make a character you like the look of that looks real. No overly high foreheads, that shining skin sheen, plaster hair and eyelashes. yes, complexion would be nice, and stuff but overall the result is better imo, even if the process is not as complex. For me the result is more important than process. I played Qunari anyway, but when I tried to make human... yeah, ME:A is my pick. And I am not even going to start on the Elves turned into loli. Really, I thought BioWARE had standards. Yes, I like the dialogue more, because I can get more emotional range from the Left Side vs Right Side Ryder in the first five minutes of a game than from the full 60 hour run out of the Inquisitor. His VA highlight was the "Let's go do something fun!" to Dorian with the false enthusiasm one addresses himself to a 5 yo child to play Candyland. Again. His voice was pleasant, but that's it. The text was forgettable and so was delivery. Particularly next to Dorian, whose VA was outdoing himself brightly and cheerfully going through his awesome material. Plus, OMG, there actually IS dialogue in ME:A. Characters always banter, while DA:I went mostly in frustrated silence & nearly all communication was handled via reading notes. Then, suddenly, in Trespasser he started cracking awkward jokes, desperately trying to be more like Hawke. Either Leliana or Cassandra commented to the extent of not being able to do without his sense of humor. I have collected my jaw off the floor. I am not a big fan of the Autodialogue, but Inquisitor does it plenty as well, and far less successfully than the Ryder. In fact, I felt Ryder has more options than Inquisitor, even though it is likely not true. It's just she seem to participate and feel it. the inquisitor was always making awkward jokes...that Cassandra commented on.
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Post by tziwen on Apr 1, 2017 0:08:17 GMT
Playing Andromeda i wasn't really feeling any DA:I influence but now i've finished MEA, i've a furious lust for an other DAI playthrough... So i guess they're more related than i thought.
As far as the comparison goes... I had to force myself -at first- to keep on playing DAI from hour 20 to hour 30. Which wasn't needed for MEA.
MEA makes me feel responsable for every outpost i opened and i was like the first line of defence. I never felt the NExus was my home but more like a burden i had to carry pressing me to push forward.
In DAI at some point i wished i could just sit on my throne in my castle grow fat and do fart jokes all day long with Sera. We stabilized the rifts too early and i had no urgency...
That being said, i'll remember the 3/4rth of the companions of DAI in 10 years... i'm not sure about Andromeda. Peebee Jaal and Liam would probably go away fast.
Andromeda was more enjoyable to play but i won't replay it so much... DA:I was a bit painfull at some point (every DA game felt that way to me at some point ) but i replayed it more and i'll replay it again...
Heh... None's trully superior to the other.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 0:15:24 GMT
Playing Andromeda i wasn't really feeling any DA:I influence but now i've finished MEA, i've a furious lust for an other DAI playthrough... So i guess they're more related than i thought. As far as the comparison goes... I had to force myself -at first- to keep on playing DAI from hour 20 to hour 30. Which wasn't needed for MEA. MEA makes me feel responsable for every outpost i opened and i was like the first line of defence. I never felt the NExus was my home but more like a burden i had to carry pressing me to push forward. In DAI at some point i wished i could just sit on my throne in my castle grow fat and do fart jokes all day long with Sera. We stabilized the rifts too early and i had no urgency... That being said, i'll remember the 3/4rth of the companions of DAI in 10 years... i'm not sure about Andromeda. Peebee Jaal and Liam would probably go away fast. Andromeda was more enjoyable to play but i won't replay it so much... DA:I was a bit painfull at some point (every DA game felt that way to me at some point ) but i replayed it more and i'll replay it again... Heh... None's trully superior to the other. I basically will just remember Dorian. Other Inquisition characters were so bland, and he was so bright. Andromeda so far does not have an OMG, OMG! character in the cast, but that may be actually a good thing because I am noticing all of them. By RP reasons I always have my guide along (Jaal) save for Liam's loyalty mission (seemed like Vetra should come) and then put someone else in the party, and it makes me think who will be an appropriate companion, so I notice their character more. Also, none of the Andro-crew inspire burning hatred, so it's awesome. Bio is getting better at that, but I swear, when a certain DA:O character showed up in Inquisition and forced herself into my Keep... only the thought that I've just paid $1,400 for my monitor prevented me from spitting and tossing things at it, and I was ready to throw a classy Internet fit demanding a refund, a personal apology from Bio and maybe even telling the world that really cares how I am so done with BioWARE, its self-proclaimed biggest fan being so let down by it, lol, lol, lol. I restrained myself to maybe only five or so outraged posts including this one, so it's an achievement. Heh.
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Post by tziwen on Apr 1, 2017 0:27:45 GMT
Playing Andromeda i wasn't really feeling any DA:I influence but now i've finished MEA, i've a furious lust for an other DAI playthrough... So i guess they're more related than i thought. As far as the comparison goes... I had to force myself -at first- to keep on playing DAI from hour 20 to hour 30. Which wasn't needed for MEA. MEA makes me feel responsable for every outpost i opened and i was like the first line of defence. I never felt the NExus was my home but more like a burden i had to carry pressing me to push forward. In DAI at some point i wished i could just sit on my throne in my castle grow fat and do fart jokes all day long with Sera. We stabilized the rifts too early and i had no urgency... That being said, i'll remember the 3/4rth of the companions of DAI in 10 years... i'm not sure about Andromeda. Peebee Jaal and Liam would probably go away fast. Andromeda was more enjoyable to play but i won't replay it so much... DA:I was a bit painfull at some point (every DA game felt that way to me at some point ) but i replayed it more and i'll replay it again... Heh... None's trully superior to the other. I basically will just remember Dorian. Other Inquisition characters were so bland, and he was so bright. Andromeda so far does not have an OMG, OMG! character in the cast, but that may be actually a good thing because I am noticing all of them. By RP reasons I always have my guide along (Jaal) save for Liam's loyalty mission (seemed like Vetra should come) and then put someone else in the party, and it makes me think who will be an appropriate companion, so I notice their character more. Also, none of the Andro-crew inspire burning hatred, so it's awesome. Bio is getting better at that, but I swear, when a certain DA:O character showed up in Inquisition and forced herself into my Keep... only the thought that I've just paid $1,400 for my monitor prevented me from spitting and tossing things at it, and I was ready to throw a classy Internet fit demanding a refund, a personal apology from Bio and maybe even telling the world that really cares how I am so done with BioWARE, its self-proclaimed biggest fan being so let down by it, lol, lol, lol. I restrained myself to maybe only five or so outraged posts including this one, so it's an achievement. Heh. Well congrats on restraining youself! My OMG character for DA:I would be Cole. I hadn't enough the possibility to teach anything to a character that way. But i gotcha. Andromeda's character don't add alot for most of them except some querky stuff: Liam is... Their "we are sorry we screwed about Jacob" character, Jaal is the new flavor that is Garrus under cocaine. Peebee is also a cocaine version of Liara (except she is too close to an overdose...) Drack isn't bringing much compared to wrex but the fact he had familly he cares and all -right here- is catchy. Cora is Jack that has taken 10 tranquilizer darts in the ass... But Jack is... Jack And then Vetra which is the only one standing out to me. I've been public enough about the fact i love Andromeda and DAI isn't better but i just miss my "man/girl". The one i always pick what ever the situation is. Which i had in DAI.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 0:28:02 GMT
If you had Mako and cinematic conversations to quest-finishers in DA:I it would've been its saving grace. It's made the formula enjoyable but it's still a grating grind. A chariot for the next Dragon Age!
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Post by Addictress on Apr 1, 2017 0:46:19 GMT
Yeah, I agree. At the end of the day, although Andromeda's writing and script are far less intriguing and much more dumb than the original trilogy, it is still much better than Dragon Age: Inquisition (with the exception of Trespasser).
The theme of exploration fits Andromeda, all the side quests definitely made efforts to be varied and engaging (and also fit with the overall story). Combat mechanics felt more solid and not as MMO-ish.
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Post by sushidubya on Apr 1, 2017 1:01:59 GMT
I like it more because of guns and jet packs. XD
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Post by osito on Apr 1, 2017 1:05:38 GMT
I like it more because of guns and jet packs. XD Yeah, I think that's me, too. :-) God I'm so immature.
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Post by kino on Apr 1, 2017 1:07:13 GMT
I think I enjoyed the story of DAI more, particularly the character development, but I'm liking the environments and mechanics of MEA more than DAI. The caveat to that statement is that I still haven't finished MEA and I've got 120+ hrs in it whilst still enjoying the hell outta it. Not many games can make me say that about them. MEA definitely can.
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