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Post by Steelcan on Apr 3, 2017 3:51:16 GMT
So I figured I'd make a thread where I put where I'd rank the ME:A squadmates in relation to characters from Shepard's games. I want to see where everyone else puts the new crew up against the ones we had in the milky way, in no particular order underneath their subheadings
Top tier: Mordin Wrex Javik Drack Legion
Good: Garrus Tali Miranda Vega Jaal Liara
Middling: Cora Vetra Kasumi Zaeed Samara Ashley Thane Grunt Peebee EDI
Poor: Kaidan Liam Morinth
Jacob tier: Jacob
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Post by caladrius on Apr 3, 2017 3:59:09 GMT
My favorite ones are Legion, Mordin, Kaidan, Drack.. maybe Vega. And Reyes. Not squad, but should be. I don't really hate anyone in Mass Effect, so I feel like it would just be a handful in the upper tier and then everyone else in no particular order. I definitely feel way more strongly for or against Dragon age characters. Mass Effect characters I'm usually pretty "meh" about either way.
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Post by dragontartare on Apr 3, 2017 5:15:55 GMT
So I figured I'd make a thread where I put where I'd rank the ME:A squadmates in relation to characters from Shepard's games. I want to see where everyone else puts the new crew up against the ones we had in the milky way, in no particular order underneath their subheadings ... Jacob tier: JacobI don't have my own rankings yet because I haven't finished MEA, but I just wanted you to know that this made me laugh out loud. It was a snort laugh, too. It would have been embarrassing if anyone else were around.
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Post by SwobyJ on Apr 3, 2017 6:48:39 GMT
I'm not doing to do a big list yet, but I'd say that generally MET's characters ranged from Top to Middling (I'd put Jacob in Poor instead of his own pit of Hell), but MEA's so far range from Good to Poor.
That said, I wasn't as caught up in most of the more loved ME1 characters at the time. I may be one that needs more of a development, or I may be one of the people more jarred by MEA's quicker "Wow everyone just signs up and I just let them and we're getting all weirdly chummy" stuff. I'm not loving any of them, but I am able to give at least half a chance.
I don't love the DAI/MEA stuff of seemingly assuming I like most of the characters and want to spend time with them. Previously Bioware games would do less of that and range in reactions (like low approval in DAO). I liked that not because I'd go for low approval, but because I felt more invested in keeping low approval away. But here we have stuff like Citadel and Trespasser with happy happy group scenes and I'm groaning a little inside and liking most of those characters a little less in the process.
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Post by Trynstark on Apr 3, 2017 8:06:24 GMT
God like tier: Kaidan
Good tier: The rest.
Dead tier: Ashley (Always dead, I like her while was alive but I couldn't play with her after Virmire)
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Post by fraggle on Apr 3, 2017 18:10:50 GMT
Top tier: James Kaidan Javik Jack Mordin Good: Legion Garrus Tali Miranda Drack Peebee Jaal Kasumi Samara Middling: Liara Cora Ashley Thane Liam EDI Don't care for: Wrex Jacob Grunt Zaeed Morinth Vetra Reyes should be a squadmate and he'd be top tier
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Post by AGECCR on Apr 3, 2017 18:35:55 GMT
Not in a particular order...
Top Tier: Garrus Wrex Drack Jaal Legion Thane
Good: Kasumi Liara Samara Edi Mordin Liam Javik
Middling: James Vetra Zaeed Cora
Poor: Grunt Jack
Worst: Jacob Ashley Kaidan Tali Peebee
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Post by Sable Rhapsody on Apr 3, 2017 19:16:34 GMT
Sure, I'll bite. Nostalgia is fun! Not including Javik or Morinth since I never had either of them. Kaidan and Liara get two entries because holy character development.
Top tier: Garrus Wrex Legion Mordin Miranda
Good: Kaidan (from ME2-ME3) Tali Grunt Samara Jack Liara (from ME2-ME3) Drack Jaal
Middling: Kasumi Thane Zaeed EDI (would rank her character higher but she's a meh squaddie) Vega Liam Vetra Peebee
Poor: Cora Kaidan (ME1) Liara (ME1)
Worst: Ashley Jacob
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Post by London on Apr 3, 2017 19:45:49 GMT
Top:
Kaidan Liara Miranda Jack Tali
Good:
Garrus Cora Liam Kasumi
Okay:
James Peebee Drack Samara Grunt Wrex Mordan Legion Jaal
Meh:
Ashley Jacob Vetra Zaeed
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Post by Lady Sif on Apr 3, 2017 21:17:38 GMT
Top: Miranda Javik Drack Jack Kaidan Liara Vetra
Good: Garrus Grunt Wrex Peebee Liam Cora Mordin Thane
Ok: Jaal Tali Legion Ashley Kasumi Zaeed Samara
Meh: Jacob Vega EDI
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Post by formerfiend on Apr 4, 2017 4:19:09 GMT
Lemme see. In no particular order within their tiers;
Top: Wrex Garrus Drack Peebee Miranda Jack Legion Thane Mordin
Good: Javik Grunt Zaeed Tali Jaal
Okay: Samara Kasumi Jacob Cora* Vetra
Meh: Liam Ashley Kaiden EDI
Jacob: Liara
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Post by Frhozen on Apr 4, 2017 17:49:32 GMT
Top:Kaidan Kasumi Reyes (I know, he's not part of the crew but IDGAF ) KalloThane Legion Mordin Good:Miranda Vega Tali Garrus Jack VetraPeebee LexiJoker JaalOkay:Samara Wrex Liara CoraDrackEDI SuviMeh:LiamZaeed Jacob (MEA characters in red. Also, I didn't put them in any particular order within the different categories.)
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Post by SwobyJ on Apr 4, 2017 18:00:26 GMT
Okay, I got it wrong: I do love Kallo. Oh my god I want to squeeze him half the time, and the other half of the time let him captain the Tempest. Even his flaws feel great and appropriately add texture and context instead of resentment. I'll speak/act/etc against him if/when the time comes, but it doesn't stop me from loving that he's the pilot.
Definitely enjoy him more than Joker. (That doesn't keep me from not minding a return to Joker/Milky Way somehow in someway, hypothetically, but I definitely like Kallo more.)
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Post by Trynstark on Apr 4, 2017 18:01:19 GMT
Lemme see. In no particular order within their tiers; Top: Wrex Garrus Drack Peebee Miranda Jack Legion Thane Mordin Good: Javik Grunt Zaeed Tali Jaal Okay: Samara Kasumi Jacob Cora* Vetra Meh: Liam Ashley Kaiden EDI Jacob: Liara *Triggered* Kaidan (Not Kaiden) xD
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Post by Aurora on Apr 4, 2017 19:41:52 GMT
I need to finish my playthrough of MEA before I can categorize them, but the "Jacob Tier" thing is best post I have seen all day lol
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Post by Soulforge on Apr 4, 2017 20:38:04 GMT
Platinum Tier Wrex Vetra Drack Garrus Grunt Mordin Zaeed Javik
Gold Tier Miranda Legion Samara Jaal Jack Ashley (should have been higher, but ME3) Thane
Silver Tier Liara Tali Cora Kasumi EDI
Bronze Tier Liam Peebee Vega
Pyjak Tier Morinth Kaidan Jacob
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Favorites:
Liara Garrus Javik Cora Drack Wrex
Good:
Vega Ashley Thane Mordin Samara Miranda Grunt Jack Jaal
Middling:
Tali Legion EDI Kasumi Zaeed Kaidan Liam Peebee Vetra Nyreen Kandros
Poor:
Jacob Morinth Aria T'Loak
Abysmal:
Sera, even though she's from DA:I. She sucks so hard she deserves a mention anyway.
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Post by elyon on Apr 4, 2017 21:12:06 GMT
Top: Reyes (oh my, isn't he a squadmate? too bad ) Kaidan Jack Samara Javik James Wrex Legion Garrus JaalGood: Mordin PeebeeThane Grunt DrackKasumi VetraMiddling: Liara Tali Zaeed EDI Morinth Ughhh: Jacob Miranda CoraLiamAshley
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Post by melisan on Apr 6, 2017 23:45:47 GMT
Limited to squad mates, huh?
THE Favourite:
Mordin : Best Story. Best Combat support "Flammable / Inflammable" All around favourite
Space Bros/Sis: Top tier folks are the squadies I love for no apparent reason other than that it is obvious that I do.
Garrus : I carried this guy around all three games despite his abilities eclipsing most of mine. Because He's Garrus. Avi Rix feels very Garrus ME1. Jaavik : I have a soft spot for very caustic characters. Wrex : Shepard / Wrex Drack : Ryder / Drack Liara : The story of the girl who became her mother, despite herself. My ME Trilogy love interest. The Yang to FemShep's Yin. Miranda: The story of the true failed Shepard, and she knows it. Gifted with the best humanity has to offer, but the loss of her childhood made her fixated on Dad and Oriana. Zaeed : Life full of trying not to regret. Constantly trying to push away his murderous self by just keep on murdering. Wrex + Zaeed = Drack Vetra : Space Sis Tali : Daughter grows up.
You're fine
Jaal : Hello Earthlings. Oddly the first Alien who acts like an Alien in a game full of aliens. Samara : The Working Mom. That's my kid who escaped from daycare and is tearing up the Galaxy Grunt : Vat boy meets world. Legion : The Evolution of AI turned out to be nothing so miraculous... just another gun.
Meh: I get what they're going for, but I'm not sold.
Peebee : I'm the NOT Liara. Jack : I'm really angsty. Thane : I'm a cool assassin. Kasumi : I'm a thief!
Why are you here? Kaidan : I am Shepard's second fiddle. Until found she had no use for me. James : I'm the New guy. That's my defining character. Liam : I'm the New New guy. And I'm nice. Jacob : I'm also a New guy. If you can remember me. Cora : I'm... here... too. Like Asari... but not...
Hate: She died on Virmire. Only to be resurrected so I could rant at her for being a dick. Ashley : I can't tell the aliens from the animals. Do you like Tennyson? Because I have a Deep side, too.Just that it never shows.
Morinth: yeah .. she exited... right.
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Post by demonicdivas on Apr 7, 2017 11:20:35 GMT
Top: Kaidan Wrex Mordin Reyes (he should have been a squadmate OK!) Garrus Jack Legion
Ok: Miranda Grunt Liara Tali Jaal Peebee Vetra James EDI
Who are you again? Samara Zaeed Kasumi Thane
Get off my ship: Liam Drack Cora, you aren't an Asari love and stop going on about my dad who just so happened to die Ashley Jacob
And if I missed any, well goes to show how important they were to me.
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Top tier: Kaidan Liam Jaal Garrus Drack Wrex
Good: Liara Tali Vetra Mordin Thane Javik Grunt Steve Joker
Middling: Peebee Cora Ashley Samantha Samara Kasumi James Suvi Kallo Gil Miranda Legion
Poor: Jacob Jack Zaeed EDI
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So I figured I'd make a thread where I put where I'd rank the ME:A squadmates in relation to characters from Shepard's games. I want to see where everyone else puts the new crew up against the ones we had in the milky way, in no particular order underneath their subheadings Top tier: Mordin Wrex Javik Jack Peebee Legion Good: Garrus Tali Miranda Vega Drack Jaal Liara Middling: Cora Vetra Kasumi Zaeed Samara Ashley Thane Grunt Poor: Kaidan Liam Morinth Jacob tier: Jacob Just looking at your list, I can see this that is entirely subjective. I do like your "Jacob tier," though. (Also, I think you forgot EDI and Thane -- don't blame you though, ME3 dev team did too.) Top tier: Mordin Wrex JavikJack JaalPeebee GarrusLegion Liara (you can't deny she's top tier, BW has obvious bias, and paid EXTRA attention to her)Good: GarrusTali MirandaVegaDrack JaalLiaraMiddling: Javik Thane (the LI ME3 writers forgot! LOL.)Cora (kind of boring, but not bad) Vetra Kasumi Zaeed Samara Ashley Liam Thane Grunt Jack (too much of a try hard effort on behalf of the writing team *yawn*)Kaidan (kind of boring, but not bad) Vega (basic meathead) Miranda (her character arc goes, "Look at my ass.")Poor: Kaidan Ashley (too much Jesus talk. I kill her on Virmire so she'll shut up permanently about it)LiamMorinth EDI (I have no respect for sex robot EDI, since that's all she is. Plain old EDI was fine though)Jacob tier: Jacob Peepee (Stuffed her ass in the escape pod and that's where she stays, I'm sick of this bitch constantly dry humping my leg, and listening to her scream "Stick it in," to Jaal all the time, like ugh, repulsive.)
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Post by snook on Apr 8, 2017 6:48:06 GMT
I'm too lazy to type all of them, but Drack, Cora and Vetra rank up there with Javik, Mordin, Garrus and Wrex for my top-tier characters.
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Post by chancemace on Apr 8, 2017 9:19:44 GMT
Top Tier-I will always remember with fondness
Mordin (Obviously his character arc and personality were enjoyed and a great part of the game. One of the best characters) Garrus (Bro in space. Once he became vigilante him and shepard are the best) Vetra (I Love characters who care for their siblings, and she is surprisingly sweet with enough bite) Liam (Just a good guy, when he messes up I kinda like him more, I feel Liam and his outlook is at the heart of the game and I love that) Drack (he loves his family so dearly and is so old. I love him. Tough and caring is my jam) Wrex (He's fun but I love from the very beginning he had a driving focus. Seeing him come into his own in 2 was great) Grunt (Shepard's son. Citadel DLC just sorta proves it. He's an idiot but he's my idiot)
High Tier- I liked them but just didn't click with me
Javick (Funny and improved the overall game with his banter and outlook, best DLC character by far) Jaal (A good introduction to a new race, I like he wasn't just a codex but a complicated crew member in his own right) Cora (A bit disapointed our first Huntress is human, feel Jack covered everything on biotic freak but interesting and a phenomenally written character) Tali (Interesting, I love that each game gave more of her character, like wrex her arc stretched over every game. Grows greatly inbetween) Jack (I mean she's fun and grows, she's wild in a way Bioware never did before or since, and I like the uniqueness)
Mid Tier-They are not bad, but I have hang ups
Samara-(She made me feel, but also her character really made no sense) Kaiden- (Petty reason, but his voice actor kept making me think he was Carth, it didn't help they had similiar outlooks) Thane- (I mean in some ways he suffers Carth syndrome, but mostly the flashbacks left too many questions in my head and distracted me from his character) Liara- (Good character if a bit bland. She was there because she was the only character fated to survive. Her arc felt rushed and unearned.) PeeBee- (Solid, I like she has multiple motivations but sometimes it felt she was quirky just to be quirky) Legion- (Interesting and compelling, but late to the game and seemed shoehorned into a pinochio story when it felt there was more to do with him) Zaeed- (fun, one of the few squaddies that felt legitimately renegade,but he didn't have all that much
Low Tier-Wasted potential in my opinion
Edi-(I mean she only became a companion because most of the others were dead. Both her body and arc felt gratuitous. She had little and felt empty) James-(Only existed because most of yor squad is dead. He is new and has no missions to get us to understand him, we find nearly nothing about him, with only a bland, joining N7 when all the other characters are worried for their planets) Jacob-(Not why you think. His loyalty mission is the only one that felt like it had nothing to do with his personality or goals and Fem Shep felt continually creepy whenever she hit on him or even talked to him. Very very little characterization and a stereotype from the start) Kasumi- (A one note character. While nearly every other character has more to them, Kasumi just seems like a thief. She had a lover who was also a thief, but in her dangerous business, that doesn't feel odd. Felt more could be done with her) Morinth- (I mean she is Samara in nearly every way except she can be flirted with and can get a game over. Not much reason to have her except to renegade all the way. It doesn't make much sense)
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