Least Favorite Squadmate in Andromeda

Liam continues the fine Mass Effect tradition of boring male human companion.

Edit: Though to be fair he is more interesting than Jacob and Kaidan.

I get that there are people who hate Liam but if you are one of those people who are like "he's just another Jacob" you have severe issues seeing black people as individuals

He's the starting male human companion as well LI, has the same writer and is only the second black companion character of the series. Only natural they are to be compared.

He's the starting male human companion as well LI, has the same writer and is only the second black companion character of the series. Only natural they are to be compared.

I liked Jacob. Sort of. He was a good friend to Shepard and I always liked his loyalty mission. His romance was rather weak (though I liked, in theory, how it ended, even though in practice it wasn't handled all that well). Liam to me is just bland and boring and his attitude is slightly irritating because Ryder can't criticize him for it. Some of his banter is OK, but that's about it. It's not all about him, in my mind, but also due to how limited the interactions with other characters are in this game. 

Huh? Liam is nothing like Jacob not even close. For one Liam has a personality. I actually really like having him around and like his banter. Guess I'm in the minority here.

+1. I like him just fine. I can honestly say, I like all of them. Drack gets the top spot though.

This is actually a problem I have with basically all the squad mates. They all seem to be about ONE issue and they shove it down your throat EVERY SINGLE TIME!

So Liam has a story about "one time, in summer camp crisis response..."
Cora is the non0risk-taker who has more daddy issues with Ryder's father then Ryder him/herself
Vetra is the "older sister"(tm) to every-f*ing-one
Peebee is soooo independent and unattached
Jaal is that alien of that race that is so open with their feelings, he cannot tell you enough how open he is with his feelings
Drack still seems to be the most diverse of them because at least his shtick is how he is the old experienced guy who's seen it all already (and that offers some diversity in his stories at least).

These characters don't show their personalities, they tell you about their personalities, they are like self-analyzing psychologists who can now finally explain to Ryder who they really are. That's not good character writing, it clumsy and feels unnatural. The MET characters mostly did not have this problem. You could have conversations with them about different topics and they had more then one personality trait and background to draw from (e.g. Ash in ME1 talks about her family a lot but you also have  conversation about her religious beliefs ro how she fells about aliens. It's all connected of course but it's not always the same song all over again.
Or look at Wrex, at the beginning, you think he's just that rough krogan merc. It's only over time that you realize there is more to him, that he was a leader among his people who wanted to fight the consequences of the genophage but got pushed out and betrayed by his over-conservative father.
He also doesn't outright tell you his persnality traits like the ME:A characters do. he never has a line like "I am rough and tough on the outside because I am Krogan but I am actually a thoughtful guy who like to think problems through before acting decisively. I care deeply about my people, just don't like to show it outright because you know, rough on the outside and all but that's who I am and maybe there is some wisdom in what I propose for the krogan."
You figure that out while talking to him about stuff that actually concerns you, like when he worked with Saren or when you can actually reason with him about the genophage on Virmire. It's show don't tell.
Instead, ME:A gives us Liam's: "I like to feel it, do it and I have to make Andromeda work or this would have been a mistake and I would just feel bad...", Vetras "I know I can be overprotective but it is because I had to care for my sister since we were little, so now I am trying to do it for everyone, yadda yadda" ot Jaal's "We angara like to show our feelings..." (he says that in his first conversation with you by the way, how does he even know that, compared to a species he has no experience with, angara are actually more openly emotional? ahhh, anyway).

This is all tell, not show where it should be the age old rule show, don't tell.

We can dream anyway. Seriously the Male romances for femshep at. al. have always been terrible. I can't figure out who comes up with these guys. It's like they don't know what women want I guess, so it must be men who are writing these characters! :hithead:

Liam and Cora, because they had the distinct disadvantage of being your starting companions who Ryder are suppose to have known and have an existing rapport, but for us player just met. Everyone else you meet for the first time, so the progression of the relationship between them and Ryder is in sync with progression of the relationship between the player and them. Its the same reason I didn't like Kaidan Alenko.

Liam and Cora would have benefited from a prologue/tutorial section in the milky way where we go through boot camp with them or something.

So, who else hates Liam?