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Post by The Joe-Man on Apr 3, 2017 20:42:53 GMT
I can't stand Jaal's dramatics and the way he speaks. He's constantly got me rolling my eyes. I might hate Liam as much as the rest of you though, if I could understand what the hell he was saying. Thank God for subtitles.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Apr 3, 2017 21:03:09 GMT
I actually love all of the companions. Personally, I think Drack is the worst, and I even thought he was great. My problem with Drack is he is another generic krogan with the same temperament that Wrex and Grunt had. I liked his sob story about almost losing the will to live and finding a new purpose, but otherwise he was rather generic. Someone like Vorn would have been far more interesting as a companion.
I think I may have enjoyed Liam's loyalty mission the most. It was absolutely hilarious. They even took a line straight from Han Solo out of A New Hope. I loved every second of it. Liam was certainly impulsive, but it made his character interesting and unpredictable in my eyes.
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Post by doch on Apr 3, 2017 21:10:50 GMT
I don't know. Aside from Drack and Peebee, wish I could drop the rest off on the Nexus and hand pick four new.
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Apr 3, 2017 21:11:57 GMT
I would pick up Reyes as a crew mate. He is like a Garrus 2.0 bromance wise.
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Post by qunaripenis on Apr 3, 2017 21:18:24 GMT
Unfortunately it has to be Cora. She's sweet and cares for the asari and flowers but then it's like, what stands out aside from that haircut? Her character arc, contrary to her romance, was empty. A shame if I have to be honest.
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Post by doch on Apr 3, 2017 21:20:22 GMT
I would pick up Reyes as a crew mate. He is like a Garrus 2.0 bromance wise. Agreed! He was bit of a cliché , but was a type of Zaeed (or Garrus) and has an edge to him. Definitely not a boring character.
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Post by doch on Apr 3, 2017 21:25:56 GMT
Also, I would pick Zevin Raeka. I liked her. How's that for diversity?
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Post by Heimdall on Apr 3, 2017 21:26:11 GMT
I actually like Jaal, despite the "tell don't show" problem he and the rest of the squad suffer from. I liked his loyalty mission. My bigger issue is with the whole non-alienness of the Angara as a whole and how first contact was handled so unceremoniously.
Peebee was... tolerable. She didn't bother me as much as Liam, but the problem with her was mostly that she was pretty much a walking trope, the flighty impulsive person who struggles to settle down and commit. Still, not too bad just not that interesting.
Vetra was the Protective Big Sister... and that's it, that is the full extent of her character, there really wasn't much more to her and that was disappointing. I can't say I disliked her really and I'm glad they resisted making her another daddy issue case, but another one that wasn't very interesting at the end of the day.
Cora, I mostly take issue with her because of how I was tasked with comforting HER after MY father died somehow and because she was way too into those Asari commandos. Despite that, she was okay, just a bit one note.
Drack scratched my Krogan itch and that he did well, but he didn't have much of substance to add as a character to distinguish himself.
I guess my problem with these characters as a whole is that they all come across as very simple, only hitting one note in the character stories and hitting only that one note for the rest of the game.
And Liam was just annoying as hell.
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Post by Kroitz on Apr 3, 2017 21:43:19 GMT
Didn't dislike any of the crew members, but it was strange that besides Liam and Cora only the other pathfinders you meet have a kind of recruitment mission in which you didn't recruit any of them. Kinda made me wish I could have had a big ol' pathfinder-team instead of the tempest crew who just appeared to be there.
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Post by President of Boom on Apr 3, 2017 21:43:36 GMT
Peebee To paraphrase Edmund Blackadder: A chat with her and somehow death loses its sting.
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Post by LFS on Apr 3, 2017 21:46:40 GMT
Drack or Vetra. No hate, just...apathy.
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Post by Sable Rhapsody on Apr 3, 2017 21:54:23 GMT
Drack or Vetra. No hate, just...apathy. For me, apathy is worse than loathing, lol. Make me angry at a character. Make me want to punch them off my ship. Make me feel SOMETHING at least. That's better than mild disinterest. Cora had some bite to her at the beginning of the game, and I'll give her that. It saved her from falling into the apathy column for me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 21:59:21 GMT
Liam, I wish I could have swapped him for Greer or Fisher at some point.
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Post by helx on Apr 3, 2017 22:05:27 GMT
Are there any human male squadmates in ME that aren't universally hated or ignored by this community?
*armchair shrink mode on* It seems for some of you "I hate Liam" is code for "my fragile masculinity is threatened by another human male". Either that or racism (comparing him to Jacob? Really?) I like Peebee, but she fucked up big time too. But that's ok cuz she's a booblilicious space nymph, right?
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Post by bladefist on Apr 3, 2017 22:16:41 GMT
I actually like them all but Liam is my least favorite. The starter male squadmates are all boring imo Kaidan, Jacob, James and now Liam.
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Post by doch on Apr 3, 2017 22:32:07 GMT
Are there any human male squadmates in ME that aren't universally hated or ignored by this community? *armchair shrink mode on* It seems for some of you "I hate Liam" is code for "my fragile masculinity is threatened by another human male". Either that or racism (comparing him to Jacob? Really?) I like Peebee, but she fucked up big time too. But that's ok cuz she's a booblilicious space nymph, right? I don't dislike Liam. He just doesn't have any skills that impress or help me much. Same problem Jacob had. Better talk to Bioware on that bit of discrimination. ...and their characters were flat.
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Post by Xerxes52 on Apr 3, 2017 22:34:40 GMT
As said above, all the squad members suffer from "tell, don't show" problems with their writing. However I did eventually come to like most of them, except for Liam. At best, I was indifferent to him, at worst mildly annoyed.
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Post by hiffwe on Apr 3, 2017 22:37:02 GMT
Are there any human male squadmates in ME that aren't universally hated or ignored by this community? *armchair shrink mode on* It seems for some of you "I hate Liam" is code for "my fragile masculinity is threatened by another human male". Either that or racism (comparing him to Jacob? Really?) I like Peebee, but she fucked up big time too. But that's ok cuz she's a booblilicious space nymph, right? Are there any human male squadmates in ME that aren't universally poorly written, uninteresting blobs? You should really sell that armchair on E-Bay or something because it's not doing you much good.
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Post by canuckgamer on Apr 3, 2017 22:51:43 GMT
Cora to me feels unfinished and I have a feeling that there is a lot more to her personal story which will come out with time. Her parents being poor freighter crew doesn't seem to fit. Just saying. I can totally see her story getting better with time.
I see Liam as no more annoying than Kaidan or Garrus in ME1 with potential down the road. He is the voice on your shoulder encouraging optimism.
I find Peedbee a more compelling Liara. She is interesting, wacky and passionate. She is in this for the long haul.
Drack is my bro, love that guy. He replaced Garrus as my go to guy.
Vetra was ok didn't really get into her with my first playthrough but am making more of an effort with my second one.
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Post by henkiedepost on Apr 3, 2017 22:53:07 GMT
Wait.... I remember Cora winning the 'favorite human squadmate of all time' election by a landslide. And here she's on second place for least favorite squadmate. Are human squadmates seriously that bad compared to alien ones or is one of the polls showing a 'biased' answer? EDIT: Oh I see. She ended in second place after Jack. Which I considered kinda funny because I didn't really like Jack at all Anyway, here's the link: bsn.boards.net/thread/6100/mass-effects-best-human-squadmates
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Post by ScrltFox on Apr 3, 2017 22:59:11 GMT
I don't get all the hate for Liam. I actually fairly enjoyed his character. He wasn't my favorite, but not the worst. Cora was my vote. I didn't hate her, just was my least favorite out of the crew, personality-wise.
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Post by projectpatdc on Apr 3, 2017 23:25:32 GMT
Good luck with young, independent women. Peebee portrayed girls in their early 20s today pretty accurately Good luck with life if you can't stand other people's opinions chief I don't like Peebee, deal with it. Edit: Didn't notice your stealth edit pal, my bad. Haha no worries. I always forget my sarcasm and smart ass comments don't translate well via text
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Post by Sable Rhapsody on Apr 3, 2017 23:36:41 GMT
Are there any human male squadmates in ME that aren't universally hated or ignored by this community? *armchair shrink mode on* It seems for some of you "I hate Liam" is code for "my fragile masculinity is threatened by another human male". Either that or racism (comparing him to Jacob? Really?) I like Peebee, but she fucked up big time too. But that's ok cuz she's a booblilicious space nymph, right? Are there any human male squadmates in ME that aren't universally poorly written, uninteresting blobs? You should really sell that armchair on E-Bay or something because it's not doing you much good. Yeah, *my* masculinity is SUPER threatened by the human squaddies Sometimes characters just don't appeal. Jacob could've been a turian, my favorite Milky Way race, and I'd still find him dull by comparison. I started liking Kaidan better than all the other male human squaddies when he kicked back against me in ME2. He developed as a character in his own right, not a yes-man for Shepard, and instantly he was more interesting to me.
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Post by Sable Rhapsody on Apr 3, 2017 23:54:20 GMT
I should add a caveat, which is that future games can always improve on a character through further development. I didn't particularly like Kaidan or Liara in ME1, and by the end of ME3 I adored then. I already like Cora and Liam much better than ME1 Kaidan and Liara, so we'll see of anything comes of them in future games. Few characters are unsalvageable.
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Post by timebean on Apr 3, 2017 23:54:39 GMT
I chose Liam as my least favorite because he is a liability and if I had renegade options available, I would have thrown his ass off my ship a long time ago.
I wanted to dislike Drack, especially after his terrible intro in the game. I loved Wrex waaaay too much to give Drack a chance, tbh. But he just sorta grew on me (in a way that Grunt never did). I like that there is more to him than the hardened warrior that you first meet, and how it comes out very slowly and honestly in character banter and conversations and overhearing him with Kesh and the random crap he says to you. His banter with Jaal ranges from comical to tear-jerking, and I just love him to death. He is the first Krogan who has actual family issues rather than clan issues at the forefront of his mind, and I really dig him alot. He seems like the only character that the writers even tried to let develop naturally. Maybe it is just easier to write Krogan characters, or something? Or maybe he just seems so good because the other characters are just so one-dimensional and basically shouting their personalities at you.
I think Jaal is boring as hell in personal convos, but his banter with the crew is really good, imo, so I like him for that. Peebee also grew on me because of banter, but I am not a fan of my own interactions with her. Cora and Vetra are a snooze fest.
Kallo is the coolest non-squaddie on my ship!
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