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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 23:36:08 GMT
We still have no idea what happened. It seemed the lake scene with Jaal and Sara was cut too, but it's there. And Turians are not hard to make nude. I saw the concept art. They are not that much different form the Angara. I don't understand what happened. Even the Kett were supposed to be nude. Just for Lexi's comment alone, I had to choose the sex scene LOL Hehe, yeah i saw that Lexi thing on Youtube later. Where is the concept art? I need it for research! masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Turian
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 23:36:22 GMT
Are those bandages around your head? Because you got your eyes poked hard by his pecs? Miraluka's have no eyes. And Jaal has very soft skin, so I think Sara is safe haha Guessing your Jedi Consular is a Miraluka? Mine is aswell. Love the voice acting from the fem Consular, she is great.
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Post by midnight tea on Apr 3, 2017 23:36:57 GMT
A variation I've seen on this type of criticism I've seen on the internet is: this character made a dumb decision, such bad writing. As if all characters should be written as paragons of intelligence and rationality. Saw it a bunch towards DA2 characters. It's...odd. I'm not going to say that people can't have legitimate grievances with writing or characterization in BW games, but it's not that rare when I see criticism that seems to be mostly "I don't like that/I don't understand that/I didn't pay attention to that" therefore it's (objectively) dumb. Eh... people are of course entitled to feel how they feel - we're subjective creatures who pay attention to different things or have different ideas, and can have different feelings towards the thing, with each point of view being legit in its own way. What I really dislike however is a tendency to present opinions as facts and the current obsession over the Internet to seemingly either wholly accept or wholly dismiss something. There seems to be very little room for nuance or just plain old "I liked it, even if I think it's flawed" or "I didn't like it, but I can see where people who enjoy it are coming from" and so on :[
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 23:37:28 GMT
Miraluka's have no eyes. And Jaal has very soft skin, so I think Sara is safe haha Guessing your Jedi Consular is a Miraluka? Mine is aswell. Love the voice acting from the fem Consular, she is great. Yes I find that a Miraluka is the best choice for a Consular! And I loved her too.
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Post by Warrick on Apr 3, 2017 23:41:02 GMT
Not only do we complain about the game, we also complain about the game's reviews. It's a recursive cascade of grievances. All complaints will have complaints about their complaints endlessly. Your post was poorly worded and the plot wasn't interesting. It just failed to connect with me.
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 3, 2017 23:52:36 GMT
As far as the galaxy map, everyone seems to overlook it's a load screen. You can't skip any galaxy travel scenes because the game is loading in the background. This was BioWare's way of avoiding having a loading bar everywhere, which is something they made a big deal about. There is no way any game needs that much time to load. You can't tell me it take 30s to load a comet out in the middle of space. Especially with a SSD.
Once the content is loaded a skip button should appear in the bottom right corner if it is indeed a matter of load time.
Depends on the system. I like the skip button. Pity we can't mod that into ME1 elevators.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 4, 2017 0:13:49 GMT
What hell even is this? Lol.
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Post by zaeedisking on Apr 4, 2017 0:23:45 GMT
She's been doing ME related videos on youtube for years. I must of subscribed to her like 3 years ago maybe even more... I generally agree/like what she has to say about the franchise so I don't take her review with a grain of salt.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Apr 4, 2017 0:40:36 GMT
One of the few reviews I can get behind, didn't need to get numbers involved and explained what she liked and what she didn't. Also referenced the technical issues the game carries with it and I can strongly agree on the characters being a big part of the game as the story didn't hold up how I expected it.
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Post by colfoley on Apr 4, 2017 0:46:55 GMT
One of the few reviews I can get behind, didn't need to get numbers involved and explained what she liked and what she didn't. Also referenced the technical issues the game carries with it and I can strongly agree on the characters being a big part of the game as the story didn't hold up how I expected it. That's kind of BioWare's bread and butter though, the characters. They never really have been that good with story or enviornmental or setting writing...though they do do a fairly good job at world building...but their character writing has usually been either awesome, or superb. Which is why the games with the weakest casts, for me, Dragon Age Origins and Mass Effect 3...are weaker games for me, while the games with the strongest casts...ME 2 and DA I...are among my favorites despite their issues in writing/ design/ etc.
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Post by helios969 on Apr 4, 2017 0:48:11 GMT
A good review and mostly agree with her on all points. The one exception being I have been able to effectively roleplay three distinctly different Ryder's. Sure there have been a few dialogue responses that deviated, but no more than I've experienced with pretty much every RPG ever made. Not sure how this will do in the short term, but I'd bet this game becomes more beloved over time.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Apr 4, 2017 0:56:26 GMT
A good review and mostly agree with her on all points. The one exception being I have been able to effectively roleplay three distinctly different Ryder's. Sure there have been a few dialogue responses that deviated, but no more than I've experienced with pretty much every RPG ever made. Not sure how this will do in the short term, but I'd bet this game becomes more beloved over time. As of right now it's #1 in U.K. Sales and is selling better than ME1 did when you compare first week sales. I also know it's selling better than the other AAA games this year so far. I have no idea on it's actual world wide sales and it'll probably be a while till they give us those numbers. The impression is while it's getting hit critically, it's doing alright commercially.
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Post by Teddie Sage on Apr 4, 2017 1:02:56 GMT
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Post by Space Cowboy on Apr 4, 2017 1:04:42 GMT
Sometimes I get a feeling people will throw "bad writing" when anything in it actually resembles actual normal, conversational English - something sounds awkward, even if it was written to be awkward or resembling normal human conversation in the first place? Not all of the dialogue is quippy or quotable? It's gotta be bad writing! ...I mean, what else it could be ? That's not to say that all of the writing in MEA or any BW game is stellar, doesn't have unintentional awkward moments or things didn't come through the execution. The fact that in MEA dialogue or comments oftentimes fire out of order, run on each other or repeats itself doesn't help with its overall reception. But when I see the accusations of 'high school writing' or picking at single lines to judge a whole more often than not it just comes across as a sloppy attempt to hit below the belt - Bioware games are generally considered to be fairly well-written, so hey, let's claim that the writing is bad and cherrypick the hell out of it! "Hi guys!" I now see why people say the dialogue is garbage. It's so....... normal. "Normal" is not always good, if it's anachronistic, or doesn't fit the setting or character in some way. I'm not saying this is the case here, but it's a possible issue.
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Post by kino on Apr 4, 2017 1:09:18 GMT
Good review. Considering how much she loves the franchise pointing out the faults must have been tough. Still, I felt she was being as honest about it as you can be.
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Post by zaeedisking on Apr 4, 2017 1:12:32 GMT
The one exception being I have been able to effectively roleplay three distinctly different Ryder's. Sure there have been a few dialogue responses that deviated, but no more than I've experienced with pretty much every RPG ever made. Really can't get on board with this. I do like S Ryder and I've been consistent in saying that on here... that said you really don't get much of a chance to craft his personal narrative throughout the game... it's just a variance of different boy scout/paragon responses. A new/improved CC allowing me the chance to make a custom may help, but the limited dialogue options hurt that a bit. With Shepard in his/her first outing we got to pick his/her background story (basically how they became an N7) and from there did a personal quest in the first game that further explored that backstory... with references from squadmates and side characters about that backstory as the game progressed.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 1:17:15 GMT
Watching her live Twitch stream now!
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Post by dragontartare on Apr 4, 2017 2:38:19 GMT
She said she loved Dragon Age 2 in this review. That was enough to know I can't completely trust her judgment. I love DA2 (it's my favorite DA game...it has the best protagonist and best cast of characters), and yet I so far disagree with a lot of things she said in this MEA review. I say "so far" because I am only 40 hours in. Maybe I will agree with her more after 100 hours, or maybe not. Regardless, I'm glad you said this. I wasn't going to watch this review, but your flippant comment made me think that maybe Lady Insanity and I are on the same wavelength. Even though I don't agree with her at the moment, she has given me some hope for liking MEA more as I go.
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Post by dragontartare on Apr 4, 2017 2:56:24 GMT
Perhaps it's just her particular style or delivery, but I didn't find Ashe's review particularly helpful or having depth. It came across more as a jumbling of various generalizations and feelings about the game, rather than an actual critical breakdown. I suppose her depiction of the game being a "hot mess" is about as close as she comes to offering any definitive opinion on the product. I can't say I agree, as I believe the game is horribly underrated due to bad press, a lack of polish, and wonky facial animations. However, everybody is entitled to their opinion. Personally, I believe MEA has far more pros than cons for all the systems and features it added to the Mass Effect experience. I will agree with her that the Critical Path does get better the further you get into the game, especially at the end. However, I never felt most of the story content was ever monotonous or tedious. Only the fetch quests were admittedly redundant. As far as the galaxy map, everyone seems to overlook it's a load screen. You can't skip any galaxy travel scenes because the game is loading in the background. This was BioWare's way of avoiding having a loading bar everywhere, which is something they made a big deal about.I know it's a loading screen, the problem is that there are so many of them. It's tedious, and the time I spend watching stars motion-blur on my screen could be better spent killing things in this game or in any other. Instead of the current system, you should be able to zoom in to any planetary map and click on any established fast travel point (DAI-style), and then watch just one travel animation/loading screen before you arrive at your destination. The only time we should get multiple loading screens or be forced to arrive at the planet's landing zone before going anywhere else is the first time we arrive on a planet. After that, any fast travel point should be fair game.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 3:05:39 GMT
Great stream! She dug much deeper and explained things perfectly!
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Post by asukhama on Apr 4, 2017 3:16:17 GMT
Ashe is the best and her reviews are honest and trustworthy. She nailed all the actual important issues, and I'm glad someone finally did. She doesn't just bash/praise something because it's the cool thing to do. Excellent review! this is such a cheap and easy way to dismiss any legit criticism towards this game. All these issues are real, and they aren't cherry picked because 'it's cool'. You're just engaging in some real information bias, probably seeking to relieve your buyer's remorse..
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 3:17:01 GMT
Ashe is the best and her reviews are honest and trustworthy. She nailed all the actual important issues, and I'm glad someone finally did. She doesn't just bash/praise something because it's the cool thing to do. Excellent review! this is such a cheap and easy way to dismiss any legit criticism towards this game. All these issues are real, and they aren't cherry picked because 'it's cool'. You're just engaging in some real information bias, probably seeking to relieve your buyer's remorse.. When I see legit criticism I'll let you know.
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Post by colfoley on Apr 4, 2017 3:19:28 GMT
Ashe is the best and her reviews are honest and trustworthy. She nailed all the actual important issues, and I'm glad someone finally did. She doesn't just bash/praise something because it's the cool thing to do. Excellent review! this is such a cheap and easy way to dismiss any legit criticism towards this game. All these issues are real, and they aren't cherry picked because 'it's cool'. You're just engaging in some real information bias, probably seeking to relieve your buyer's remorse.. And your projecting your own experiences on someone else... The point of the matter is most of the issues in the game really do not effect that game that much one way or another. Granted I can see some of the bugs if they happened to me would drive me crazy but other than that...I just either disagree with the commentary or do not think those issues are big deals at all. Whereas there is a fair few people out there on the net that are letting these small insignificant things and then blwing them out of proportion talking about how the 'facial animations' ruin the game...say what?
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Post by midnight tea on Apr 4, 2017 3:23:39 GMT
Ashe is the best and her reviews are honest and trustworthy. She nailed all the actual important issues, and I'm glad someone finally did. She doesn't just bash/praise something because it's the cool thing to do. Excellent review! this is such a cheap and easy way to dismiss any legit criticism towards this game. All these issues are real, and they aren't cherry picked because 'it's cool'. You're just engaging in some real information bias, probably seeking to relieve your buyer's remorse.. Interesting... first you bash a 'cheap and easy way to dismiss any legit criticism'... and then you proceed to easily and cheaply dismiss someone and insinuate that criticism of observed bandwagoning is motivated by buyer's remorse Not a way to go, I'd say.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 3:24:56 GMT
this is such a cheap and easy way to dismiss any legit criticism towards this game. All these issues are real, and they aren't cherry picked because 'it's cool'. You're just engaging in some real information bias, probably seeking to relieve your buyer's remorse.. Interesting... first you bash a 'cheap and easy way to dismiss any legit criticism'... and then you proceed to easily and cheaply dismiss someone and insinuate that criticism of observed bandwagoning is motivated by buyer's remorse Not a way to go, I'd say. Haha seeing as I am madly in love with this game, that post made me laugh pretty hard!
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