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Post by penguinfetish on Apr 8, 2017 14:47:36 GMT
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Post by lillekri on Apr 9, 2017 5:27:21 GMT
Brilliant vid helps me understand what this kit is about! I have 3 questions: -Avenger Strike gets BOTH 'melee' and 'power' bonuses? -Avenger Strike Damage debuff affects target too? -While S. Grid is indeed amazing, can the upgrades be passed up, or are they essential? Since I love grenades so much, Im thinking that for me, either Stealth Grid or Weapon Training will need to take a serious hit.. (Both have juicy rank 6, with seemingly lackluster rank 4 and 5, from what I can tell.) Okay, below is what Im thinking.. (green = pick first, then orange, then red..) <script charset="UTF-8" src="chrome://YTAutoHD720p/content/YTAutoHD720p.js" type="application/javascript"></script>
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Post by lillekri on Apr 12, 2017 6:07:26 GMT
Bump.
My AA is finally leveled up, and she really is not the 'ninja' I had hoped. So I turned her into a sniper.. *sigh* Still a massively powerful kit, just not in the way I had envisioned.. her melee attacks are mildly.. confusing. She occasionally lunges forward, but when I really need her to, she does this awkward attack that has no range at all. (But all the melee is super clunky in this game, so it has to be like that for balance I guess..)
A how to vid on meamp melee would actually be greatly appreciated.
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Post by reyzaburrel on Apr 12, 2017 6:21:01 GMT
Bump. My AA is finally leveled up, and she really is not the 'ninja' I had hoped. So I turned her into a sniper.. *sigh* Still a massively powerful kit, just not in the way I had envisioned.. her melee attacks are mildly.. confusing. She occasionally lunges forward, but when I really need her to, she does this awkward attack that has no range at all. (But all the melee is super clunky in this game, so it has to be like that for balance I guess..) A how to vid on meamp melee would actually be greatly appreciated. Her melee is extremely fast and anyways youre supposed to lung towards the enemy then melee if you aren;t in point blank range. Anyways, in my build i didn;t spec into stealth grid. Not needed as much as you think. I'd rather spend the points in stickys.
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Post by Shodan/etm125 on Apr 12, 2017 7:20:18 GMT
Got the kit a couple days ago n tried her out today. Jesus Christ she's strong.
Almost every other kit has 1 garbage power (sometimes 2!) while she has 3 fantastic powers. Actually have to think n make build decisions. Good vid.
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Post by tatsumaki on Apr 12, 2017 7:27:21 GMT
Liked because of the Gentoo penguin!
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Post by xaijin on Apr 12, 2017 8:25:39 GMT
Bump. My AA is finally leveled up, and she really is not the 'ninja' I had hoped. So I turned her into a sniper.. *sigh* Still a massively powerful kit, just not in the way I had envisioned.. her melee attacks are mildly.. confusing. She occasionally lunges forward, but when I really need her to, she does this awkward attack that has no range at all. (But all the melee is super clunky in this game, so it has to be like that for balance I guess..) A how to vid on meamp melee would actually be greatly appreciated. I really just want to stamp git gud on this... i really really do. I solo'd gold with this character the first day of MP at level 10. Granted it was on sandstorm with outlaw and I had upload 3 and devices 6, but there is nothing MYSTERIOUS AND NUANCED about mysterious VEILED ASSASSIN OF THE SANDS WHOM ONLY CAN BE SEEN IN THE DARKEST OF SHAD- I'm sorry, there's nothing subtle or ephemeral about this character. it takes about 5 minutes in game to figure what's her optimal route; you stab the fuck out of things, that's it. That's all. I haven't played her since except for a remnant gold with 'one life to live' attached to it in a fit of laziness, because she is 'meh this game' mode incarnate. you take all the passives, you take all the passive evos that increase stabbing you take stabbing to 6 with all the evos that make stabbing stabbier and you are done. That's it. If you never get to X, it doesn't matter, because stabbing is maxed and you've won the game. If you're a nice people you'll take stealth grid and help your mates, if you're an ass you'll take grenades and kill groups with the same speed you kill single targets. She is a one trick pony and that trick is obliterating the map with melee. If the target is red and less than five character lengths away, you sprint-stab into regular stab, maybe shoot them in the face if they're armored, if there are more than two enemies and it's gold, you sprint stab into aerial stab into shadow stab, and then pick off the unlucky bastard left with a good ol fashion regular stab. Done.
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Post by guanxi on Apr 12, 2017 8:34:15 GMT
Been wanting this card since day one. Still waiting. Excellent advice, thanks Penguin.
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Post by penguinfetish on Apr 12, 2017 10:34:45 GMT
Brilliant vid helps me understand what this kit is about! I have 3 questions: -Avenger Strike gets BOTH 'melee' and 'power' bonuses? -Avenger Strike Damage debuff affects target too? -While S. Grid is indeed amazing, can the upgrades be passed up, or are they essential? Since I love grenades so much, Im thinking that for me, either Stealth Grid or Weapon Training will need to take a serious hit.. (Both have juicy rank 6, with seemingly lackluster rank 4 and 5, from what I can tell.) Okay, below is what Im thinking.. (green = pick first, then orange, then red..) <script charset="UTF-8" src="chrome://YTAutoHD720p/content/YTAutoHD720p.js" type="application/javascript"></script> As far as im aware (please dont take this as fact as i havent extensively tested), avenger strike gets bonuses from melee enhancements, not power damage upgrades. It benefits from power recharge bonuses but as far as damage goes, i think thats it.
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Post by penguinfetish on Apr 12, 2017 10:39:03 GMT
Bump. My AA is finally leveled up, and she really is not the 'ninja' I had hoped. So I turned her into a sniper.. *sigh* Still a massively powerful kit, just not in the way I had envisioned.. her melee attacks are mildly.. confusing. She occasionally lunges forward, but when I really need her to, she does this awkward attack that has no range at all. (But all the melee is super clunky in this game, so it has to be like that for balance I guess..) A how to vid on meamp melee would actually be greatly appreciated. Her melee is extremely fast and anyways youre supposed to lung towards the enemy then melee if you aren;t in point blank range. Anyways, in my build i didn;t spec into stealth grid. Not needed as much as you think. I'd rather spend the points in stickys. Id still recommend stealth grid to rank 3 at least though, just for that first duration upgrade.
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Post by Pounce de León on Apr 12, 2017 10:40:38 GMT
Synopsis please.
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Post by penguinfetish on Apr 12, 2017 10:45:22 GMT
1/6/6/6/6, shoot and stab things.
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Post by Pounce de León on Apr 12, 2017 10:51:15 GMT
1/6/6/6/6, shoot and stab things. Does it compare to the Shadow a bit?
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Post by penguinfetish on Apr 12, 2017 10:56:46 GMT
1/6/6/6/6, shoot and stab things. Does it compare to the Shadow a bit? Yes, except avenger strike doesnt 1hko as much as shadow strike did and the AA has significantly more survivability. I like the avenger more than the shadow, and i loved the shadow.
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Post by cdrshepard on Apr 12, 2017 11:32:50 GMT
Just got my Avenger I to level 20, too. Guy in the video is crazy good with that Vanguisher, which I am not (maybe it's partly PC vs console?) but Talon pistol is very nice! Best advice I took from the video is level Strike to 6 (shield damage) first. Strike-target shielded enemies as priority (very good shield stripper, teammates will appreciate).
Video guy also poo-poo'd stickies, which I love. I figure since I'm humping ammo boxes for Stealth Grid cells, might as well take Stickies to 5 (capacity). Stealth grid to 4a, capacity too. Stealth very useful for revives, objectives, escape. Other points in Defense until such time as I get more rank cards (maybe never at this rate?)
I rarely use her regular melee (got stickies & Talon, why would I!?) Strike also very useful for re-positioning across these loooooong maps very fast.
TL;DR -- Love this kit!
Edit: if I could fix one thing with this kit it'd be -- stop having her shout "Need Ammo!" so much. Have to turn sound way down and even then I check, everything's topped up? Why she's saying that or is it even my character?
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Post by neightrix on Apr 12, 2017 11:48:15 GMT
Bump. My AA is finally leveled up, and she really is not the 'ninja' I had hoped. So I turned her into a sniper.. *sigh* Still a massively powerful kit, just not in the way I had envisioned.. her melee attacks are mildly.. confusing. She occasionally lunges forward, but when I really need her to, she does this awkward attack that has no range at all. (But all the melee is super clunky in this game, so it has to be like that for balance I guess..) A how to vid on meamp melee would actually be greatly appreciated. Melee in general is very inconsistent. Why is there even a rangeless downward punch while your character is standing? ME3 melee had essentially perfect tracking. Why take several steps backwards?
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Post by penguinfetish on Apr 12, 2017 17:26:42 GMT
Just got my Avenger I to level 20, too. Guy in the video is crazy good with that Vanguisher, which I am not (maybe it's partly PC vs console?) but Talon pistol is very nice! Best advice I took from the video is level Strike to 6 (shield damage) first. Strike-target shielded enemies as priority (very good shield stripper, teammates will appreciate). Video guy also poo-poo'd stickies, which I love. I figure since I'm humping ammo boxes for Stealth Grid cells, might as well take Stickies to 5 (capacity). Stealth grid to 4a, capacity too. Stealth very useful for revives, objectives, escape. Other points in Defense until such time as I get more rank cards (maybe never at this rate?) I rarely use her regular melee (got stickies & Talon, why would I!?) Strike also very useful for re-positioning across these loooooong maps very fast. TL;DR -- Love this kit! Edit: if I could fix one thing with this kit it's be -- stop having her shout "Need Ammo!" so much. Have to turn sound way down and even then I check, everything's topped up? Why she's saying that or is it even my character? I wasnt so much trashing stickies, i did mention it was good to have but i feel that other rank 6 evos are better
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Post by JRandall0308 on Apr 12, 2017 18:52:47 GMT
Also there are other characters who have stickies. If you want to run around going Stealth + Sticky Grenades you can do that with Salarian Infiltrator. But only the Angaran Avenger has the combination of Stealth + Avenger Strike.
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Post by TaliWhacker on Apr 12, 2017 19:17:17 GMT
I wasnt so much trashing stickies, i did mention it was good to have but i feel that other rank 6 evos are better Stickies need maybe a detonate or debuff option to make them even worth considering not taking rank 6 in stealth grid. 6b alone makes 4 and 5 worth it. Ooops, found the nerf.
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Post by penguinfetish on Apr 12, 2017 19:19:18 GMT
Also there are other characters who have stickies. If you want to run around going Stealth + Sticky Grenades you can do that with Salarian Infiltrator. But only the Angaran Avenger has the combination of Stealth + Avenger Strike. I see the appeal of it though, stealth grid is also vastly superior to tactical cloak if you want to use stickies as a primary source of damage
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Post by cdrshepard on Apr 12, 2017 19:37:48 GMT
Also there are other characters who have stickies. If you want to run around going Stealth + Sticky Grenades you can do that with Salarian Infiltrator. But only the Angaran Avenger has the combination of Stealth + Avenger Strike. Well, for me it isn't so much Stealth + Stickies as: Stike, sticky &/or Stealth to get out of there if needed. Hey, she's the only character I've been able to get decent/competitive scores with (otherwise I'm bottom the of barrel), which speaks, perhaps, to the OP-ness of this kit.
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Post by JRandall0308 on Apr 12, 2017 20:47:07 GMT
I see the appeal of it though, stealth grid is also vastly superior to tactical cloak if you want to use stickies as a primary source of damageFIFY.
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Post by shaundidrake on Apr 12, 2017 21:06:17 GMT
1/6/6/6/6, shoot and stab things. I found that without cloaking, her regular melee takes 3-4 stabs to kill a full heath Raider. And I am equipped with Juggernaut shield, melee mod on guns and melee bonus in passives. Am I missing something?
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Post by penguinfetish on Apr 12, 2017 23:39:46 GMT
1/6/6/6/6, shoot and stab things. I found that without cloaking, her regular melee takes 3-4 stabs to kill a full heath Raider. And I am equipped with Juggernaut shield, melee mod on guns and melee bonus in passives. Am I missing something? The angara standard melee is pretty shit. I use it only to finish off enemies and not as a primary source of damage.
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Post by reyzaburrel on Apr 13, 2017 4:26:56 GMT
Avenger Strike + Stickies is pretty much GG's for most of the enemies outside from heavy units like berzerkers, destroyers, hydras, and feinds. Those take a little more time to kill since the excessive armor. Sheild enemies have never been a problem. This is without the buff from Stealth Grid btw.
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