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Post by Rascoth on May 31, 2020 15:15:38 GMT
Yup, Garrosh Hellscream. Then there was troll Vol'jin and later Sylvanas. As far as I know, there's no Warchief atm. Honestly, I prefered Garrosh. He was at least somehow consistent. You mean consistent in being all like "Attack everyone equally" Exactly! Including Kil'jaeden. We actually deal with him in one of the raids. Then we went to Argus and finished off Burning Legion. If there was potential for insane Jaina, I think they missed it, since she's slowly returning to her W3 mindset. If they wanted to make her crazy, that should be sooner. Nah, Illidan is out of the picture for good, gone as Sargeras' jailor (even though you'd think rest of the Titans + the fact that they're gone far into cosmos would be enough). This decision made no sense whatsoever, but devs really wanted to get him out of the picture. I wish they wanted to do the same with Sylvanas...
Light is more that just human religion, it's just known under different names among different races. And yea, I wouldn't compare it to Christianity. Explaining it here would take me a while As I said, Illidan's gone. And unfortunately what LadyofNemesis said is true (btw Lady, I saw your edit ). Sylvanas burned down Teldrassil. I mentioned that because you said your Night Elves wouldn't join with humans and if not anything else, this is perfect occassion for "enemy of my enemy". Though Teldrassil/Darkshore-related actions also cause small rift in the Alliance. Nordrassil was almost completely destroyed during the events of Third War. Now druids, assisted by dragons, are slowly helping it heal. As for why... There's a lot to unpack here, but in short, she planned to capture it, but due to certain events during campaign, she decided it's not enough and ordered to burn it down.
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Post by Buckeldemon on May 31, 2020 16:21:20 GMT
If there was potential for insane Jaina, I think they missed it, since she's slowly returning to her W3 mindset. If they wanted to make her crazy, that should be sooner. After reading about some of Garrosh's exploits, I though they basically made him destroy Jaina's island, to make her go genocide on the Orcs and finally kill that connection between her and Thrall. Nah, Illidan is out of the picture for good, gone as Sargeras' jailor (even though you'd think rest of the Titans + the fact that they're gone far into cosmos would be enough). This decision made no sense whatsoever, but devs really wanted to get him out of the picture. I wish they wanted to do the same with Sylvanas...Even I do not miss the irony of Illidan acting as someone's jailor. Wait, what happened with Maiev then? *reads up* Oh, killed him, then brought him to fight some demons, as he's apparently unkillable Ah, my head hurts... Sylvanas burned down Teldrassil. I mentioned that because you said your Night Elves wouldn't join with humans and if not anything else, this is perfect occassion for "enemy of my enemy". Though Teldrassil/Darkshore-related actions also cause small rift in the Alliance. Well, from Warcraft3 perspective, I saw more cultural similarities between Night Elves and Orcs (and Tauren) than with humans. Especially since quite some human characters in Warcraft 3 are racist assholes (the infamous Garithos and Jaina's daddy). But it appears as if someone had to chop some trees again... which seemed to be the reason for the Night Elf-Orc conflict ball. Nordrassil was almost completely destroyed during the events of Third War. Now druids, assisted by dragons, are slowly helping it heal. As for why... There's a lot to unpack here, but in short, she planned to capture it, but due to certain events during campaign, she decided it's not enough and ordered to burn it down. I got the first part during RoC/TFT. So they planted a replacement and used is as their capital until some magic susbstance was discovered, used/stored (?) there, prompting killer banshee to attack in fear of an arms race... ouch.
Now I remember why I never really got into WoW lore... It seems just too much if one isn't constantly up-to-date or dabbling in other franchises.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on May 31, 2020 17:06:10 GMT
Sylvanas burned down Teldrassil killing hundreds of Night elves, the Alliance retaliated by attacking Lorderon
Ahm, what? Why did she do that? (The orignial world tree was named Nordrassil, if I recall right. Was it replaced by WoW?)
Your guess is as good as mine, apparently Sylvanas went crazy when she became the new Warchief of the Horde a good thing to watch would be this > link it explains Sylvanas' mindset during the events of Battle for Azeroth...and shows the burning of Teldrassil
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Post by Rascoth on May 31, 2020 17:56:37 GMT
Hmnm... I should have "lore headache" ice pack laying somewhere around... Yup. And with all the heavy retcons, it's even easier to get your "facts" wrong. I'm using "" for facts because who knows, next expansion or Chronicles come out and what I know now as facts might be wrong.
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Post by Buckeldemon on May 31, 2020 19:32:59 GMT
Your guess is as good as mine, apparently Sylvanas went crazy when she became the new Warchief of the Horde a good thing to watch would be this > link it explains Sylvanas' mindset during the events of Battle for Azeroth...and shows the burning of Teldrassil Okay, so Sylvanas thinks that her actions as R-G of Silvermoon were ultimately pointless, that hope is pointless and she now wants to do what? Bring pain and crush hope of everyone else? See the world burn? I do not really get it. Did she ever contemplated suicide, if that is possible for an undead, that is. I guess I miss something here. Hmnm... I should have "lore headache" ice pack laying somewhere around... Many thanks. Is there someone who stocks them? Yup. And with all the heavy retcons, it's even easier to get your "facts" wrong. I'm using "" for facts because who knows, next expansion or Chronicles come out and what I know now as facts might be wrong. If there is ever a Warcraft 4, they would have to put a lot of things straight. Is timetravel a thing? I suspect so, since... didn't the bronze dragons have a thing for these things. Wibbly-wobbly timey wimey dragon balls... ah, don't mind me.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on May 31, 2020 19:50:10 GMT
Your guess is as good as mine, apparently Sylvanas went crazy when she became the new Warchief of the Horde a good thing to watch would be this > link it explains Sylvanas' mindset during the events of Battle for Azeroth...and shows the burning of Teldrassil Okay, so Sylvanas thinks that her actions as R-G of Silvermoon were ultimately pointless, that hope is pointless and she now wants to do what? Bring pain and crush hope of everyone else? See the world burn? I do not really get it. Did she ever contemplated suicide, if that is possible for an undead, that is. I guess I miss something here. Well, she already got her revenge on Arthas (he died in the second expansion)
After Arthas died (canonically killed by Highlord Tirion Fordring) he was replaced by Bolvar Foldragon as the new Lich King
in the current upcoming expansion (called Shadowlands) Sylvanas defeated Bolvar and destroyed his crown, which somehow lead to the shattering of some sort of barrier between Azeroth and the Shadowlands (which is why I said "she pulled a Solas"), which effectively challenges the balance between life and death (cinematic trailer here> link ) As for Sylvanas being able to die...I'm not sure if she can still die, at present her main purpose is as you say "see the world burn" and kill as many people possible in order to feed some sort of evil entity (as said on the Wowpedia)
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Post by Rascoth on May 31, 2020 20:02:51 GMT
Did she ever contemplated suicide, if that is possible for an undead, that is. I guess I miss something here. She did try to kill herself by jumping from the Icecrown. And I wouldn't try to understand Sylvanas. At this point I'm 99,9% sure even Sylvanas doesn't understand Sylvanas and it's writers just doing whatever they want. It's Sandal's special enchantment. Time travel is a thing. There's couple dungeons and raids that involve time travel (mostly in Caverns of Time), as well as whole single player scenario where you help Chromi (another Bronze Dragon) stop assassinations on her from different points in time.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on May 31, 2020 20:12:46 GMT
Time travel is a thing. There's couple dungeons and raids that involve time travel (mostly in Caverns of Time), as well as whole single player scenario where you help Chromi (another Bronze Dragon) stop assassinations on her from different points in time. Don't forget the mess they called "Warlords of Draenor" one entire expansion entirely surrounding time travel
But yeah, as you said...I'd stop trying to understand the lore of this game as well...it's very confusing, even if you started playing from the first installment
Thankfully GW2 fixed that problem by having (re)playable episodes that you can go back to in case you want a refresh
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Post by Rascoth on May 31, 2020 20:22:06 GMT
Time travel is a thing. There's couple dungeons and raids that involve time travel (mostly in Caverns of Time), as well as whole single player scenario where you help Chromi (another Bronze Dragon) stop assassinations on her from different points in time. Don't forget the mess they called "Warlords of Draenor" one entire expansion entirely surrounding time travel But yeah, as you said...I'd stop trying to understand the lore of this game as well...it's very confusing, even if you started playing from the first installment Thankfully GW2 fixed that problem by having (re)playable episodes that you can go back to in case you want a refresh I see Draenor more like alternate universe than time travel, but yea... still can easily fall into alternative timeline category At one point I just started to accept things as they are and don't question it. "Ah, you contradict the thing you said two expansions ago. Ok " With my let me count 8 max level characters, I don't think I'd even want to go replay questlines in WoW But option is always nice, point for GW2.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on May 31, 2020 21:35:02 GMT
So I decided to ditch my idea of making another Guardian in GW2 by making a new attempt at a Ranger I made her a human, with commoner background who has unknown parents (heritage). Her patron god is Melandru (goddess of nature) and her animal friend at CC is a brown bear My character is named Minerva Caemir, and her bear friend is named Faryn
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Post by Buckeldemon on May 31, 2020 21:38:52 GMT
Well, she already got her revenge on Arthas (he died in the second expansion)
After Arthas died (canonically killed by Highlord Tirion Fordring) he was replaced by Bolvar Foldragon as the new Lich King
in the current upcoming expansion (called Shadowlands) Sylvanas defeated Bolvar and destroyed his crown, which somehow lead to the shattering of some sort of barrier between Azeroth and the Shadowlands (which is why I said "she pulled a Solas"), which effectively challenges the balance between life and death (cinematic trailer here> link ) As for Sylvanas being able to die...I'm not sure if she can still die, at present her main purpose is as you say "see the world burn" and kill as many people possible in order to feed some sort of evil entity (as said on the Wowpedia) *looks up the two humans* So some Paladin basically stole her kill, only for Arthas to be replaced by "fallen Paladin 2.0"? Oh, writers... She did try to kill herself by jumping from the Icecrown. And I wouldn't try to understand Sylvanas. At this point I'm 99,9% sure even Sylvanas doesn't understand Sylvanas and it's writers just doing whatever they want. I guess she failed then.
Sylvanas: "Why I cannot even die properly?" Random writer: "We need you for the sequel."
(I picked up this meme from an old video about Tomb Raider. Somebody asked why Lara did not simply put a bullet into Amanda's head after Legend.)
It's Sandal's special enchantment. Ah, that's the reason he stole all my frost rocks.
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Post by melbella on Jun 1, 2020 1:03:15 GMT
Thought I'd play a bit more W3 yesterday but didn't get very far.
Recruited Quint the safecracker by again outsmarting Hans of Cidaris: beat him at gwent to win Quint's release. Then headed off to recruit the burglar but he was already dead. Ended up recruiting "the Ermine" again, but this time I gave her the gold to refund the audience their ticket money rather than perform with my crossbow. We're in a hurry, ma'am - pay 'em back and let's go. Then Geralt headed back to Oxenfurt (for like the 10th time in two days) to convince the soldiers' cook to spike their next evening meal with special witcher seasoning.
After the meeting with the crew to discuss the plan and when/where to meet up next, Geralt went exploring. Ran into a guy convinced a "forest spook" had stolen his horse. Turns out the spook was just a Scoia'tael, so Geralt put the whammy on him so he could take back the guy's horse. Got lost along the way (that's what you get for riding a horse that isn't Roach) and after turning around to start running in the right direction, the game froze.
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Deus Ex: Mankind Divided The last few days Adam arrived in Golem City, tasked with tracking down and arresting Rucker, the leader of ARC. After finding his contact - and way to Rucker - in jail, Adam needed another way in. Due to an earlier conversation, Adam owed a favour to one of the heads of the Dvali crime family, and ended up letting the merchant go. In return, the merchant let Adam use his secret entrance to Arc territory. Sneaking through - almost - without raising alarm or suspicion, Adam made it to Rucker. He was surprisingly moderate - I’d been expecting more of a zealot, not sure why - and Adam was able to convince him to come in peacefully. While that wasn’t to be, Adam was able to escape Arc territory with evidence that Rucker was being set up. On return to Prague, there was another favour due to Otar, which lead to the obligatory strip club. Me being me, I had a look around. . There wasn’t much worth seeing, though. Next time, extract Dominik from the Dvali zone. Question to those who’ve played this; I killed no-one in Golem City. Especially not in Arc, however, Rucker asked that I not kill “any more of his people” on the way out. I only used knock out takedown and tranq darts (or avoided entirely). Is this a bug? Or an oversight in dialogue?
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GW2 Reached level 80 on my Revenant, now a Renegade. Also lost and then saved Claw Island. Might actually end up much better than my Reaper with the few champions I fought...less or more alone. Kill stuff faster + excellent survivability so far. Question to those who’ve played this; I killed no-one in Golem City. Especially not in Arc, however, Rucker asked that I not kill “any more of his people” on the way out. I only used knock out takedown and tranq darts (or avoided entirely). Is this a bug? Or an oversight in dialogue? He complains you killed his people in his introduction dialogue once you enter his room if you killed some before reaching him, so I guess dialogue oversight. Saying that, "sleeping" enemies can get damaged and die from: - falling - stuff hitting them
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Post by Hawke on Jun 1, 2020 2:40:12 GMT
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Neverwinter Nights: Enhanced Edition. The party lifted Lathander's curse from the village of Charwood, releasing all spirits trapped there (and, accidentally, one demon). For some reason, polar bears appeared in the ruins of the village. It's been so long since I played that main campaign I've forgotten most of it. I think the last time I played I ended up doing the Aarin Gend "romance," such as it was. I do remember Aribeth and Fenthick being incredibly annoying though. Are they any less annoying in the EE version?
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Question to those who’ve played this; I killed no-one in Golem City. Especially not in Arc, however, Rucker asked that I not kill “any more of his people” on the way out. I only used knock out takedown and tranq darts (or avoided entirely). Is this a bug? Or an oversight in dialogue? He complains you killed his people in his introduction dialogue once you enter his room if you killed some before reaching him, so I guess dialogue oversight. Saying that, "sleeping" enemies can get damaged and die from: - falling - stuff hitting them Ah. Shit. Think I know what happened, then. Thank you.
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Post by Hawke on Jun 1, 2020 4:02:25 GMT
Neverwinter Nights: Enhanced Edition. The party lifted Lathander's curse from the village of Charwood, releasing all spirits trapped there (and, accidentally, one demon). For some reason, polar bears appeared in the ruins of the village. It's been so long since I played that main campaign I've forgotten most of it. I think the last time I played I ended up doing the Aarin Gend "romance," such as it was. I do remember Aribeth and Fenthick being incredibly annoying though. Are they any less annoying in the EE version? The person who heals you for free cannot be annoying. And Aribeth has been surprisingly adequate for a paladin, actually. I had not interacted with Fenthick much, but he seemed fine.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 1, 2020 5:37:03 GMT
In Civ 6... Well since I downloaded it with he epic games and well with borderlands also being a thing my wife was like: 'we should play more games together.' Then I was like '...you know Civilization has a multiplayer mode.' So here we are. We started a game together on our respective computers and both of our respective computers crashed once during it. Oh though perhaps one other note it is a bit annoying having to sometimes wait for each other to finish their stuff. Usually her. I have been quite quick even with the learning curve that this game provides because...there is so much new. Though it is also really neat seeing her turn and mine happen in real time. We are about 50 turns into it and about at the turn of the first century CE. It is a pretty interesting game. There are a lot of nice little touches with it in terms of graphics and presentation. The districts are a nice touch and while I know I have expressed a desire to be able to build multiple things in districts at the same time but I think I have realized if that were to happen you would run out of things to do very slowly because it seems like the development is still...as slow as Civ usually is so its a moot point. So lets see. Founded my first government...classical republic...my wife founded a religion...we are in the medieval era...I think...maybe the classic? Not sure which one comes first...yeah I think classic. About to found 'recorded history'. And we have met the Vikings, Arabs, French, and English so far. Right now I am getting ready for a war with a city state... it is 'in my way'. Not something I should really care about after all I could probably go around but if I take it ut its a complete and clear run...well I think I have Africa all to myself. Vikings should be somewhere on there but I just do not...see them anywhere so they must not be doing any expansion. Another thing to note is it really does seem to encourage...the use of settlers. Given that my population is exploding my cities are getting crowded and well you can build things to increase housing...or do what I do and just build settlers too...which I am going to be doing a LOT of once I get rid of the city state as I race to the Western Coast and then start building up until I can actually get a navy going. Oh and one of the most evil things I think i have ever done in Civ. I put Philadelphia right on the Isthmus of Suez. Philadelphia is literally straddling Asia and Europe which means that it is one of th most strategic places in the map right now...so its going to be my military city...trying to anyways. . Already gave it city walls working on an encampment and soon I will have a harbor...hopefully. Its an important life line though too since Wifey is up in Asia with Japen...oh I am the US. In BF 2... Set a new kill record...wit Lando. Broke my one with Obi-wan at 51 with 56. And that's...pretty much it I guess. . Anything worth saying, as addictive as this game is it does not have a lot to say about itself these days.
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He complains you killed his people in his introduction dialogue once you enter his room if you killed some before reaching him, so I guess dialogue oversight. Saying that, "sleeping" enemies can get damaged and die from: - falling - stuff hitting them Ah. Shit. Think I know what happened, then. Thank you. Sounds like a story. What did you do?
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jun 1, 2020 6:27:08 GMT
Ah. Shit. Think I know what happened, then. Thank you. Sounds like a story. What did you do? Nothing too interesting. Made it through the first part of ARC and came on an area with a door to the right and a stack of boxes and stuff to the left (also the direction of the marker). Climbed up the boxes and the guy up there was right there. Hit Q for knockout takedown and Adam threw him down the boxes into the room he’d just climbed up from. In hindsight, I probably should’ve realised it would be fatal...
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Jun 1, 2020 9:00:00 GMT
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Acting on Tong's info, Jansen set out to stowaway on the baddies' ship. In the process, he had a near brush in getting himself blown to smithereens. Tong, it seemed, could not be trusted but his info on the ship was the only lead so Jansen got onboard. He was found, captured and interrogated. It seemed all was lost when someone released him from his shackles.
I have to admit the Black Pearl section took me by surprise because Jansen's augs were set back to base level. Freck, I worked so hard to get the praxis units and points and this level reset him? Gah. Anyway, found that the baddies' were kidnapping innocent civilians off the streets, labeling them as terrorists, iced them and sent them off of unknown black facilities to be experimented on.
Landed on one of the facilities. The unknown benefactor wanted Jansen to find hard evidence for Interpol regards the baddies' operations. From the dialogue, it turned out the soldiers were split into two factions. Commander Keitner wanted to return her org to honorable ways. The other was Burke who was out for his own gains. I decided to not kill the soldiers in grey as they were Keitner's men. Those in grey and red were Burke's men. They would die.
The civilians were held captive on the facility. Came across coms that the guards had set up a cell specifically as a 'fun' room with the women captives. Oh they're so going to die so hard. I spared none. Had a dialogue with one of the scientists. She agreed to spill the beans to Interpol if Jansen could get her safely away. To do that, Burke must be taken care off.
On the way to the fight, came across Keitner. Freck it, there was no chance to save her. Dang. Burke tried to provoke Jansen. He's a talker for sure. Juvenile. What, did he think Jansen was going to change his mind when he said his men were innocents? Sure, they were innocent as newborn babes. That Jansen was no better than him. He had a noble goal, what was Jansen's when he killed those "innocent" men? He was damn irritating so Jansen swatted him flat.
Then it was off again to another ship that would take Jansen to the facility where Dr Reed was held. At the end of the level, I got the praxis points back and all the items in the inventory made a pile on the floor. I guessed the next level was probably the last so I chose to pick up a lot of grenades, energy packs and ammo.
The ship made port and it turned out Jansen was in Singapore.
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Post by Rascoth on Jun 1, 2020 10:04:28 GMT
Elsewhere, I'm sort of having fun playing Heroes of Dragon Age. Maybe it's just that it's "new" DA content so is somewhat scratching that itch for me. My piddly little squads are no match for players who have been at it since launch of course, but the PvP option is pretty harmless since the combat is controlled by the server rather than the players. I only go for matches I have shot at winning. It's interesting to see the squad set-ups people come up with. Pretty much any theme you can think of, there's a toon for that. It is fun game, but can get repetitive once you're done with main campaign and saw most of rotating events. I remember having quite a few variants of "All Hawke" team, with Flemeth as giant creature. You could get creative with it, since there were 3 Marians, 3 Garretts, Bethany and Carver when I was still playing, and I had all of them Mythic. Fun fact, the one I had hardest time getting was Common Avvar Goat. Seems it was still offended by what happened to it in DAI
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Post by Sonya on Jun 1, 2020 10:57:32 GMT
Maybe angry, loud Sylvanas fanboys? Why only "fanboys"? You are not the only one who likes what he/she sees. But the reason is suitable enough - the angry "fan - whatever" part. Whom would you suggest? Have my own reasons and explanations "why her/why continue using her at all", though curious whom you would suggest. and she now wants to do what? Bring pain and crush hope of everyone else? See the world burn? I do not really get it. Did she ever contemplated suicide, if that is possible for an undead, that is. I guess I miss something here. You do not get indeed (not "an insult" emoji" should be used here, just in case to clarify). Some things are left for players to think "why and what will become of them later" - I actually hate such outcomes as want to see devs opinion about it, not play "guessing games", but it is what it is. In this case - it is like poor Sarah Kerrigan (if you played that game). What she became, though part of humanity still remained in her, most of her actions reminded me of elf Warchief. Really reminded. With exactly the same reasons you have mentioned. I guess she failed then.
Sylvanas: "Why I cannot even die properly?" Random writer: "We need you for the sequel." Does not ring a bell? About beheaded Leliana in DAO and poppoing up in DA2/DAI. No? Explanation of her "alive" is just fucking awesome. Can't get rid of that bitch in any case. Oh, those writers...
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