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Post by projectpatdc on Apr 9, 2017 0:02:24 GMT
This. As much as I liked the whole Indiana Jones in space storyline and how this "religious" relic/power was ultimately the archon's end, I would have liked to have at least fought the guy in a unique, well thought out fight and then kill him with meridian's power. I will say the combat and leveling system is better than witcher 3. I liked the amount of customization better in Mass Effect for the weapons and Armor, but I getting the weapons and armor in Witcher 3 was more epic. It would have been better to have certain special/rare guns, melee weapons, and armor attached to certain epic side quests. I will say Mass Effect Andromeda's main story was about on par with Witcher 3's Main story with witcher 3 being marginally better. Although MEA is probably the closest to emulating 3 style side quests with small fleshed out stories, scanning, following, and fighting, Witcher 3's side quests are still king by a huge margin. The issue with MEA was the side quests felt too handholding and never really had a great conclusion/payoff. Witcher 3's side quests had some sort of introduction, twist, and climax seen in short stories. That's basically what they are. MEA's sidequests would just end abruptly and give you a completed notification. I also never understood why they wrote every side quest in a way where we could never actually let the person we are rescuing, capturing, or helping join/ride with us. There was always some excuse for them to stay where they were. I would be willing to give TW3 a shot if I was able to become a Mage or Archer type class instead of just using swords and some magic. I could deal with ugly Geralt if I had a choice in my combat style. Yeah, Witcher 3 lacks that versatility, but I found that once you accept that you are playing as a "Witcher" you quickly not care about using a shield or heavy armor or strictly powers or a bow and arrow. It works better than you would think. I still wish Geralt could use an actual bow, but again it doesn't fit the training and skill set of a Witcher. And the game does an excellent job immersing the player in Witcher lore.
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Post by suikoden on Apr 9, 2017 0:06:51 GMT
I would be willing to give TW3 a shot if I was able to become a Mage or Archer type class instead of just using swords and some magic. I could deal with ugly Geralt if I had a choice in my combat style. Yeah, Witcher 3 lacks that versatility, but I found that once you accept that you are playing as a "Witcher" you quickly not care about using a shield or heavy armor or strictly powers or a bow and arrow. It works better than you would think. I still wish Geralt could use an actual bow, but again it doesn't fit the training and skill set of a Witcher. And the game does an excellent job immersing the player in Witcher lore. Uh... have you played TW3? Because you can use a bow... and you can level up your bow skills to quite a degree and just snipe away if that's how you wanna play the game.
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Post by Transcended One on Apr 9, 2017 0:07:52 GMT
That was also ten years ago, and the first entry to the franchise. What point are you trying to make? Just a guess: that the people who never stop complaining about the so-called "fetch" quests and busy work in ME:A but love the same kind of so-called "fetch quests" and busy work stuff in ME1 are hypocrites. What about all those people loving The Witcher 3 for that too has fetch quests (use your witcher senses to follow some trail and kill monster... or don't whatever), and a LOT of loot chests (or did they forget the waters around Skellige?). There hasn't been a single 'open world' game without some kind of repetitiveness/filler content.
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Post by Cyonan on Apr 9, 2017 0:11:33 GMT
I'd still say Andromeda has a lot more side content, though. I know it's just my personal experience, but ME:A took me more than twice as long to finish than my first playthrough of any of the OT games(and I didn't rush my way through any of the games). It can kind of get in the way of the main narrative in a way that wasn't quite as much of an issue(but still one to an extent) in Mass Effect 1 if you're trying to 100% the game. I appreciate the amount of side content though. Naturally I completed most of it before beating the game and it did kill the pacing a bit, but I never felt like the main story made you feel like you had to do the next mission until the last two. Over it was good, and I imagine anyone's second or third playthrough will be a better experience in terms of pacing because they know what to prioritize and when to engage certain missions. This is one area where I felt it mimiced ME1. At no point did I feel like I had to continue the main story from a mechanical "you must do this or there will be consequences" type of thing but at the same time, the story did try to play some kind of importance on actually doing the story missions at times(even if nothing came of ignoring it). There's a bit of a disconnect when the NPCs are telling me how I need to hurry and then I just go wander off for 20 hours. Though as I said, ME1 did the exact same thing. Most open world games suffer this issue because of the nature of open world games.
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Apr 9, 2017 0:11:41 GMT
I would be willing to give TW3 a shot if I was able to become a Mage or Archer type class instead of just using swords and some magic. I could deal with ugly Geralt if I had a choice in my combat style. Yeah, Witcher 3 lacks that versatility, but I found that once you accept that you are playing as a "Witcher" you quickly not care about using a shield or heavy armor or strictly powers or a bow and arrow. It works better than you would think. I still wish Geralt could use an actual bow, but again it doesn't fit the training and skill set of a Witcher. And the game does an excellent job immersing the player in Witcher lore. I can't accept that though. Combat is the main thing I judge games by whether I will play it or not, and unchangeable combat is something I can't accept.
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Post by Pearl on Apr 9, 2017 0:29:54 GMT
That Mass effect was not always a corridor TPS with RPG elements....You know like the second and third were. Seems like an odd way to make that point. It would probably be better to point to how ME1 told it's story differently, than to go "look you know those fetch quests you hate? they were around back then too!"
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Post by suikoden on Apr 9, 2017 0:32:36 GMT
Yeah, Witcher 3 lacks that versatility, but I found that once you accept that you are playing as a "Witcher" you quickly not care about using a shield or heavy armor or strictly powers or a bow and arrow. It works better than you would think. I still wish Geralt could use an actual bow, but again it doesn't fit the training and skill set of a Witcher. And the game does an excellent job immersing the player in Witcher lore. I can't accept that though. Combat is the main thing I judge games by whether I will play it or not, and unchangeable combat is something I can't accept. You have a lot of options in combat - you CAN use a bow and arrow. You can level up the different signs and have very different builds. You can't change your build on the fly though - if you have to have that, there's always Diablo 3...
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Apr 9, 2017 0:41:47 GMT
Just a guess: that the people who never stop complaining about the so-called "fetch" quests and busy work in ME:A but love the same kind of so-called "fetch quests" and busy work stuff in ME1 are hypocrites. What about all those people loving The Witcher 3 for that too has fetch quests (use your witcher senses to follow some trail and kill monster... or don't whatever), and a LOT of loot chests (or did they forget the waters around Skellige?). There hasn't been a single 'open world' game without some kind of repetitiveness/filler content. Except Witcher 3 fetch quests are better and more concealed and they don't take you hours to finish like this game. Also the loot chests in skellige weren't fetch quests, they aren't even quests. Did you bother playing the game or just read some triggered biodrones rendition of it?
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Apr 9, 2017 0:42:16 GMT
I can't accept that though. Combat is the main thing I judge games by whether I will play it or not, and unchangeable combat is something I can't accept. You have a lot of options in combat - you CAN use a bow and arrow. You can level up the different signs and have very different builds. You can't change your build on the fly though - if you have to have that, there's always Diablo 3... Are the other builds after thoughts while the sword is actually the main build, or they are all viable with every enemy type? If they are actual builds and not just after thoughts, then I might give it a shot.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Apr 9, 2017 0:44:15 GMT
Once again, you bore the shit out of us with some 5th grader bullshit. This troll is tired, unoriginal, boring, and I really wish you would fuck off with it. What you, and others who echo this sort of post are doing, is trolling. And when you do this together, you are bullying. Unwittingly, possibly - but only if you are dense as carbon. We get it, you don't like dutch's posts. Mine either probably, good on ya. Fuck off with this line. Jesus Fucking Christ is it tired.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Apr 9, 2017 0:47:01 GMT
Once again, you bore the shit out of us with some 5th grader bullshit. This troll is tired, unoriginal, boring, and I really wish you would fuck off with it. What you, and others who echo this sort of post are doing, is trolling. Unwittingly, possibly - but only if you are dense as carbon. We get it, you don't like dutch's posts. Mine either probably, good on ya. Fuck off with this line. Jesus Fucking Christ is it tired. It's just biodrones that do it. The "Hi, Dutch" is virtue signalling, to bad this place isnt drone heaven. Most people here are redpilled on Bioware and Bioware games.
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Post by smilesja on Apr 9, 2017 0:47:16 GMT
Once again, you bore the shit out of us with some 5th grader bullshit. This troll is tired, unoriginal, boring, and I really wish you would fuck off with it. What you, and others who echo this sort of post are doing, is trolling. And when you do this together, you are bullying. Unwittingly, possibly - but only if you are dense as carbon. We get it, you don't like dutch's posts. Mine either probably, good on ya. Fuck off with this line. Jesus Fucking Christ is it tired. Sseessh I don't even dislike the guy i thought it was something of a tradition on bsn
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Post by smilesja on Apr 9, 2017 0:48:41 GMT
You have a lot of options in combat - you CAN use a bow and arrow. You can level up the different signs and have very different builds. You can't change your build on the fly though - if you have to have that, there's always Diablo 3... Are the other builds after thoughts while the sword is actually the main build, or they are all viable with every enemy type? If they are actual builds and not just after thoughts, then I might give it a shot. The bow is really situational only against underwater enemies or flying enemies
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Apr 9, 2017 0:49:35 GMT
Once again, you bore the shit out of us with some 5th grader bullshit. This troll is tired, unoriginal, boring, and I really wish you would fuck off with it. What you, and others who echo this sort of post are doing, is trolling. And when you do this together, you are bullying. Unwittingly, possibly - but only if you are dense as carbon. We get it, you don't like dutch's posts. Mine either probably, good on ya. Fuck off with this line. Jesus Fucking Christ is it tired. Sseessh I don't even dislike the guy i thought it was something of a tradition on bsn If it is a tradition on the old BSN, it is a good one to break here. I don't remember either of you. I just get real tired of popularity contests online, and in the real world. Shockingly, that makes me popular as fuck.
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Post by smilesja on Apr 9, 2017 0:49:51 GMT
Once again, you bore the shit out of us with some 5th grader bullshit. This troll is tired, unoriginal, boring, and I really wish you would fuck off with it. What you, and others who echo this sort of post are doing, is trolling. Unwittingly, possibly - but only if you are dense as carbon. We get it, you don't like dutch's posts. Mine either probably, good on ya. Fuck off with this line. Jesus Fucking Christ is it tired. It's just biodrones that do it. The "Hi, Dutch" is virtue signalling, to bad this place isnt drone heaven. Most people here are redpilled on Bioware and Bioware games. [ That's we like you Dutch
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Apr 9, 2017 0:50:04 GMT
Once again, you bore the shit out of us with some 5th grader bullshit. This troll is tired, unoriginal, boring, and I really wish you would fuck off with it. What you, and others who echo this sort of post are doing, is trolling. And when you do this together, you are bullying. Unwittingly, possibly - but only if you are dense as carbon. We get it, you don't like dutch's posts. Mine either probably, good on ya. Fuck off with this line. Jesus Fucking Christ is it tired. Lolz. You do realize there is a war here and sides right? This is just our way of fighting because believe it or not we are both tired of seeing the same old shit posted again and again. The same could be said for your side for rehashing everything ad nauseam. You can hate this post all you want too because I love a good fight.
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Post by Transcended One on Apr 9, 2017 0:53:23 GMT
What about all those people loving The Witcher 3 for that too has fetch quests (use your witcher senses to follow some trail and kill monster... or don't whatever), and a LOT of loot chests (or did they forget the waters around Skellige?). There hasn't been a single 'open world' game without some kind of repetitiveness/filler content. Except Witcher 3 fetch quests are better and more concealed and they don't take you hours to finish like this game. Also the loot chests in skellige weren't fetch quests, they aren't even quests. Did you bother playing the game or just read some triggered biodrones rendition of it? Yes I did bother playing the game, AND it's DLC's and both of it's predecessors. I am not saying that The Witcher 3 is not a good game, I'm just saying it too has repetitive or less interesting stuff put in it (though all the good stuff compensates hugely for the rest), like hoarding flowers for alchemy, or trying to collect all those different armor blueprints. I never claimed the loot chests were quests. I just meant that they appear on your map leaving a marker, and for people with OCD it's far from fun to try and turn all those white markers grey, especially with all those annoying Erinyes and Harpies (Witcher 3's version of Cliff Racers) guarding them.
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Apr 9, 2017 0:54:25 GMT
Are the other builds after thoughts while the sword is actually the main build, or they are all viable with every enemy type? If they are actual builds and not just after thoughts, then I might give it a shot. The bow is really situational only against underwater enemies or flying enemies Then if that is the case I probably won't. I want it to be a main weapon capable of taking down all enemy types with and without silver arrow tips.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Apr 9, 2017 0:55:44 GMT
Once again, you bore the shit out of us with some 5th grader bullshit. This troll is tired, unoriginal, boring, and I really wish you would fuck off with it. What you, and others who echo this sort of post are doing, is trolling. And when you do this together, you are bullying. Unwittingly, possibly - but only if you are dense as carbon. We get it, you don't like dutch's posts. Mine either probably, good on ya. Fuck off with this line. Jesus Fucking Christ is it tired. Lolz. You do realize there is a war here and sides right? This is just our way of fighting because believe it or not we are both tired of seeing the same old shit posted again and again. The same could be said for your side for rehashing everything ad nauseam. You can hate this post all you want too because I love a good fight. If there was a war here, with sides, the vast majority of you would be fucked beyond belief. Myself and a few others on these forums would essentially become warlords in no time, because so few of you have an actual clue about battle in real life. Paratrooper Sean over there, me over here... And the rest of you asking for directions or serving us. Get a fucking grip rich boy... You can lolz all you want, bullying is bullying, this is a fucking video game, and you post the same old shit too. I am tired of your shit, but I don't have a group of assholes following me saying Hi Fumbles everytime you say something stupid. I don't have the budget for that unfortunately, it would be a fucking massive undertaking.
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Apr 9, 2017 1:00:17 GMT
Lolz. You do realize there is a war here and sides right? This is just our way of fighting because believe it or not we are both tired of seeing the same old shit posted again and again. The same could be said for your side for rehashing everything ad nauseam. You can hate this post all you want too because I love a good fight. If there was a war here, with sides, the vast majority of you would be fucked beyond belief. Myself and a few others on these forums would essentially become warlords in no time, because so few of you have an actual clue about battle in real life. Paratrooper Sean over there, me over here... And the rest of you asking for directions or serving us. Get a fucking grip rich boy... You can lolz all you want, bullying is bullying, this is a fucking video game, and you post the same old shit too. I am tired of your shit, but I don't have a group of assholes following me saying Hi Fumbles everytime you say something stupid. I don't have the budget for that unfortunately, it would be a fucking massive undertaking. Actually, most of my money came from my time in the Army. I just saved well. Saying "High Dutch" isn't bullying. Tracking him down and calling him names and such and to go off himself is bullying. What is happening here is not that. I would actually find that amusing if people did that. I would get quite a kick from it.
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Post by setokaiba on Apr 9, 2017 1:05:50 GMT
Wait I'm confused. Where are these W3 type side quest in the MET?
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Post by timebean on Apr 9, 2017 1:14:14 GMT
Took me 82 hrs on hardcore completeing 80% of the game getting viability for each planet to 100% and doing most of the side content. Overall it's better than DAI but nothing compared to TW3. I'm still fed up with the games fetch quests and openworld. They can't do it. They just can't. I miss the OT and Shepard. I just finished the game as well (like, just now). Completed like 98% (I have 4 or 5 total quests left and 2 clusters to scan planets in for completion). So this is my 'fresh' impression. I generally agree with you. I liked the combat way better than DAI, and I actually enjoyed driving around in the Nomad (the banter helped). But I thought DAI had better flow story-wise. I seriously felt exhausted by all the tasks in MEA, whereas in DAI they were just...annoying. TW3 and Skyrim are the only other open-world games that I played before. Skyrim felt lifeless, but screwing around with mods made it fun. But I have to say that TW3 is the only open-world game that I have played where I enjoyed almost all of it, including the side-quests and fetch quests. I can't put my finger on why. Seriously, I have been trying to figure it out. But I don't really know why. I just...honestly had more fun in TW3 than the other 3 giant games. I even enjoyed all the little collectable stuff in TW3 (like the armor sets). And I think that the comedic/dramatic parts in TWS were way funnier/heart-wrenching than anything in DAI and MEA. Still, I think it was worth the money just to get to enjoy some of the ME universe again. There were cool moments and fun missions. I just...I am kinda glad it is over, tbh. Also...I don't know about the battle lines on the new boards, and what the factions are, etc. I just generally agreed with your post here. I am not trying to argue that TW3 is better than MEA nor get pissy with folks that don't agree...I just happened to enjoy it more than MEA.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Apr 9, 2017 1:18:56 GMT
Except Witcher 3 fetch quests are better and more concealed and they don't take you hours to finish like this game. Also the loot chests in skellige weren't fetch quests, they aren't even quests. Did you bother playing the game or just read some triggered biodrones rendition of it? Yes I did bother playing the game, AND it's DLC's and both of it's predecessors. I am not saying that The Witcher 3 is not a good game, I'm just saying it too has repetitive or less interesting stuff put in it (though all the good stuff compensates hugely for the rest), like hoarding flowers for alchemy, or trying to collect all those different armor blueprints. I never claimed the loot chests were quests. I just meant that they appear on your map leaving a marker, and for people with OCD it's far from fun to try and turn all those white markers grey, especially with all those annoying Erinyes and Harpies (Witcher 3's version of Cliff Racers) guarding them. You must hate the mining node icons then.
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Post by colfoley on Apr 9, 2017 1:25:44 GMT
It's interesting that you should say that because some of the side quests have reminded me of witcher in a very positive light. The loyalty missions were the only worthwhile side quests in this game, the Asari arc quest being the best in the entire game. well...this is a Bioware...that's kind of a 'no duh' statement. But honestly the loyalty quests aren't the only good quests. I haven't done a single bit of the campaign in two weeks and its been truly rare that I've had a dull moment quest wise. You have each one of the vault quests. You have a few real gems like Contagion, Sleeping Dragons, and though a bit anticlimactic you have the firefighters. You have quests that while they don't do much story wise have interesting twists and emotional content. The Visitor, Echoes of the Past, the world is waiting Quests with interesting and weighty choices, which shape the world around Ryder in several interesting ways and quests which many of them do not involve combat. Many things people were asking for when being critical of inquisition...they added them.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Apr 9, 2017 1:28:29 GMT
If there was a war here, with sides, the vast majority of you would be fucked beyond belief. Myself and a few others on these forums would essentially become warlords in no time, because so few of you have an actual clue about battle in real life. Paratrooper Sean over there, me over here... And the rest of you asking for directions or serving us. Get a fucking grip rich boy... You can lolz all you want, bullying is bullying, this is a fucking video game, and you post the same old shit too. I am tired of your shit, but I don't have a group of assholes following me saying Hi Fumbles everytime you say something stupid. I don't have the budget for that unfortunately, it would be a fucking massive undertaking. Actually, most of my money came from my time in the Army. I just saved well. Saying "High Dutch" isn't bullying. Tracking him down and calling him names and such and to go off himself is bullying. What is happening here is not that. I would actually find that amusing if people did that. I would get quite a kick from it. Wow. You would find real life trolling of people on forums amusing? Congratulations.
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