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Post by AnDromedary on May 16, 2017 19:59:13 GMT
I'm not sure if it's been already mentioned here, and I'm too lazy to leaf throuh 29 pages in the thread, but one of the few things that don't make sense to me, would be the fact the Council in ME1 refuted the allegations against Saren and his involvement in the attack on Eden Prime. It's like they had no CSI:Citadel or a specialist who would be able to recreate the murder scene where Nihlus had been killed. 1.) Nihlus was one of the top Spectre agents, so why wouldn't they want to know how did he die in a situation where there are so many doubts and two different versions; what's more, Saren actually didn't explain his doings during the attack on Eden Prime, which I think would be one of the first things I'd ask to put in a raport. Did they just assume he was shot by geth, which sounds ridiculous; 2.) If the Council opted that Nihlus was actually shot by geth, then why would developers, game creators insist on Samesh Bhatia quest, where Shepard recovers the Nirali's pincushion body that was supposed to be investigated because of "registered injuries from unique geth weaponry". From what we've seen in the game Saren used Carnifex, including the shot from a close range, also we have a witness who knew names of a murderer and victim, and non geth weaponary leathal wound in the back of one's head, but the game is still pushing the plot forward, just to introduce to us a lovely quarian squadmate. It's cute, but not logical. Far as I know, this is never fully explained in game. However, Shepard moves on from the scene very quickly without really securing it. I guess it is possible that after Shep and team moved on to the other platform to get to the beacon, more geth came in and messed up the scene so badly that there was no much to recover. Also, remember that C-SEC - on preasure from the council - actually shuts down the investigation early. The chief investigator into the Saren issue (Garrus) does ask for more time and doesn't get it from the executor. This would indicate, that the council - who just acts stupidly the entire time - doesn't necessarily want to clear this up. They never want Spectres investigated, because they know exactly that their own agents are invovlved in a lot of dirty business on their own initiative (see what Saren does in Revelation or what Tela Vasir does in LotSB). They don't want this to come out. Once someone is appointed to Spectre status, they have the council's complete trust and they don't want anyone, including the Alliance and C-Sec to mess with them. What if Saren was doing something grossly illegal somewhere else on his own initiative (as Spectres often do) during the Eden Prime attack? Something that would be morally abhorrent but still would help the council's agenda? They certainly wouldn't want anyone - Garrus included - to dig too deeply into Saren's activities in order to find an alibi if that alibi would discredit the Spectres. Hell, for all we know, Saren may even have dished them a such a story in private before the meeting and that's why they shut down the investigation.
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Post by lyq3r on May 16, 2017 20:44:36 GMT
I'm not sure if it's been already mentioned here, and I'm too lazy to leaf throuh 29 pages in the thread, but one of the few things that don't make sense to me, would be the fact the Council in ME1 refuted the allegations against Saren and his involvement in the attack on Eden Prime. It's like they had no CSI:Citadel or a specialist who would be able to recreate the murder scene where Nihlus had been killed. 1.) Nihlus was one of the top Spectre agents, so why wouldn't they want to know how did he die in a situation where there are so many doubts and two different versions; what's more, Saren actually didn't explain his doings during the attack on Eden Prime, which I think would be one of the first things I'd ask to put in a raport. Did they just assume he was shot by geth, which sounds ridiculous; 2.) If the Council opted that Nihlus was actually shot by geth, then why would developers, game creators insist on Samesh Bhatia quest, where Shepard recovers the Nirali's pincushion body that was supposed to be investigated because of "registered injuries from unique geth weaponry". From what we've seen in the game Saren used Carnifex, including the shot from a close range, also we have a witness who knew names of a murderer and victim, and non geth weaponary leathal wound in the back of one's head, but the game is still pushing the plot forward, just to introduce to us a lovely quarian squadmate. It's cute, but not logical. Far as I know, this is never fully explained in game. However, Shepard moves on from the scene very quickly without really securing it. I guess it is possible that after Shep and team moved on to the other platform to get to the beacon, more geth came in and messed up the scene so badly that there was no much to recover. Also, remember that C-SEC - on preasure from the council - actually shuts down the investigation early. The chief investigator into the Saren issue (Garrus) does ask for more time and doesn't get it from the executor. This would indicate, that the council - who just acts stupidly the entire time - doesn't necessarily want to clear this up. They never want Spectres investigated, because they know exactly that their own agents are invovlved in a lot of dirty business on their own initiative (see what Saren does in Revelation or what Tela Vasir does in LotSB). They don't want this to come out. Once someone is appointed to Spectre status, they have the council's complete trust and they don't want anyone, including the Alliance and C-Sec to mess with them. What if Saren was doing something grossly illegal somewhere else on his own initiative (as Spectres often do) during the Eden Prime attack? Something that would be morally abhorrent but still would help the council's agenda? They certainly wouldn't want anyone - Garrus included - to dig too deeply into Saren's activities in order to find an alibi if that alibi would discredit the Spectres. Hell, for all we know, Saren may even have dished them a such a story in private before the meeting and that's why they shut down the investigation. That's right, it wasn't explained. Nevertheless I disagree with your statements: - Shepard was walking forward to the train station cleaning up the scene, which he stated in the playthrough when talking to the farmers hidden in the shed; hence it's just theoretical, but actually impossible to be true to mess the Nihlus' body by geth on the docking platform. - yes, the Council does act stupidly, because the motives behind their actions are either doubtful or unknown; they shut down the investigation, that's true. They never wanted spectres investigated - also true, but it still doesn't make any sense considering the facts, they had sent Spectre for a crucial mission and somehow another Spectre, after a fiasco, becomes indicted of a murder. Also how would they not get any intel, even the smallest part of what might have happened on Eden Prime as it was? - At least in my view, and that's how all things should work, there must/should be some other agents who know how things work and would be able to investigate the crime scene, meaning spectres, to avoid involvment of the outsiders (C-Sec); just like any other agencies do - FBI; CIA; etc.); - It would make more sense, if Saren was banging the Asari councilor, was the best friend with Turian councilor or sth like that, and knew some dirty secrets of Salarian councilor, implying Saren could blackmail, hold them for their balls/boobs. Hence the only way to make the Council revoke him of Spectre status, would be exposing him publicly as in the game. Also, why would they let one of their fellas act like this, not paying any consequences, while they had been preparing this crucial mission that might further speed up their technology for a few hundred years forward? Mind You, in ME3, on Thessia, Asari government kept Prothean tech. secret the whole time, so it must have been very important for everyone to get the beacon untouched and secured. I couldn't imagine they would just let a spectre go with that mess. Because we have some serious accusations and some evidence support, as mentioned before in previous post, I'm ready to admit that the Council part has some flaws. Not as ridiculous as in the recent "!%@&(^:A" game, but still worth mentioning.
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Post by AnDromedary on May 16, 2017 21:20:15 GMT
That's right, it wasn't explained. Nevertheless I disagree with your statements: - Shepard was walking forward to the train station cleaning up the scene, which he stated in the playthrough when talking to the farmers hidden in the shed; hence it's just theoretical, but actually impossible to be true to mess the Nihlus' body by geth on the docking platform. - yes, the Council does act stupidly, because the motives behind their actions are either doubtful or unknown; they shut down the investigation, that's true. They never wanted spectres investigated - also true, but it still doesn't make any sense considering the facts, they had sent Spectre for a crucial mission and somehow another Spectre, after a fiasco, becomes indicted of a murder. Also how would they not get any intel, even the smallest part of what might have happened on Eden Prime as it was? - At least in my view, and that's how all things should work, there must/should be some other agents who know how things work and would be able to investigate the crime scene, meaning spectres, to avoid involvment of the outsiders (C-Sec); just like any other agencies do - FBI; CIA; etc.); - It would make more sense, if Saren was banging the Asari councilor, was the best friend with Turian councilor or sth like that, and knew some dirty secrets of Salarian councilor, implying Saren could blackmail, hold them for their balls/boobs. Hence the only way to make the Council revoke him of Spectre status, would be exposing him publicly as in the game. Also, why would they let one of their fellas act like this, not paying any consequences, while they had been preparing this crucial mission that might further speed up their technology for a few hundred years forward? Mind You, in ME3, on Thessia, Asari government kept Prothean tech. secret the whole time, so it must have been very important for everyone to get the beacon untouched and secured. I couldn't imagine they would just let a spectre go with that mess. Because we have some serious accusations and some evidence support, as mentioned before in previous post, I'm ready to admit that the Council part has some flaws. Not as ridiculous as in the recent "!%@&(^:A" game, but still worth mentioning. I am not trying to say it makes complete sense, I am just telling you my head canon on it. One thing I didn't quite understand though: "but it still doesn't make any sense considering the facts, they had sent Spectre for a crucial mission and somehow another Spectre, after a fiasco, becomes indicted of a murder. " Who is who in this? You are saying, they sent Nihlous on a crucial mission and afterwards, Saren becomes accused of a murder, I guess.Well, yea, but that's what I am talking about. They might have had a fake story from Saren, telling them that he somewhere else, involved in some other dirty business at the time. The only people who accuse Saren are some Alliance dudes, including Anderson, who is known to have somewhat of a feud with Saren in the first place. So I do get that the council would be sceptical. "Also how would they not get any intel, even the smallest part of what might have happened on Eden Prime as it was? - At least in my view, and that's how all things should work, there must/should be some other agents who know how things work and would be able to investigate the crime scene, meaning spectres, to avoid involvment of the outsiders (C-Sec); just like any other agencies do - FBI; CIA; etc.);" This one, I agree with. They should have sent another Spectre to Eden Prime to investigate the crime scene. Garrus clearly didn't get the time and resources to do so. Who knows? Maybe they did. But even assuming the geth didn't come back to tamper with evidence(and just because Shepard didn't believe they would doesn't mean that they couldn't btw), what would an investigator find? Nihlous body with a mass accelerator slug shot through the back of his head. Now, I don't know 22nd century ballistics and stuff, but I am not sure if they even could have proofed Saren's involvement from the crime scene in the frist place. It's simply not mentioned by the game (which, I agree, is an oversight for sure).
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Post by lyq3r on May 16, 2017 22:12:33 GMT
I am not trying to say it makes complete sense, I am just telling you my head canon on it. One thing I didn't quite understand though: "but it still doesn't make any sense considering the facts, they had sent Spectre for a crucial mission and somehow another Spectre, after a fiasco, becomes indicted of a murder. " Who is who in this? You are saying, they sent Nihlous on a crucial mission and afterwards, Saren becomes accused of a murder, I guess.Well, yea, but that's what I am talking about. They might have had a fake story from Saren, telling them that he somewhere else, involved in some other dirty business at the time. The only people who accuse Saren are some Alliance dudes, including Anderson, who is known to have somewhat of a feud with Saren in the first place. So I do get that the council would be sceptical. "Also how would they not get any intel, even the smallest part of what might have happened on Eden Prime as it was? - At least in my view, and that's how all things should work, there must/should be some other agents who know how things work and would be able to investigate the crime scene, meaning spectres, to avoid involvment of the outsiders (C-Sec); just like any other agencies do - FBI; CIA; etc.);" This one, I agree with. They should have sent another Spectre to Eden Prime to investigate the crime scene. Garrus clearly didn't get the time and resources to do so. Who knows? Maybe they did. But even assuming the geth didn't come back to tamper with evidence(and just because Shepard didn't believe they would doesn't mean that they couldn't btw), what would an investigator find? Nihlous body with a mass accelerator slug shot through the back of his head. Now, I don't know 22nd century ballistics and stuff, but I am not sure if they even could have proofed Saren's involvement from the crime scene in the frist place. It's simply not mentioned by the game (which, I agree, is an oversight for sure). "One thing I didn't quite understand though: "but it still doesn't make any sense considering the facts, they had sent Spectre for a crucial mission and somehow another Spectre, after a fiasco, becomes indicted of a murder. " Who is who in this?" - You got it right - the Council sent Nihlus, then Saren was indicted of murder. Let's just assume, as it's been stated here and in the game, that Cpt. Anderson and the Allience dudes are just pest, another race with bad reputation, like krogans - untrustworthy. It doesn't release the Council from its responsibility to get to know of what had happened. There we may go with the argument that another spectre agent should get into it. We agree on it and that's cool. - About the ballistics, I mentioned an interesting thing in my first post about the Samesh Bhatia quest. What's more, from what I've checked on the mass effect wiki, various weapons have different acceleration when fired given to a metal slug or sth, and they seem to shoot out differently, which is mentioned in the codex and wiki site. "Weapons in the Mass Effect universe are micro-scaled mass accelerators, using mass-reducing fields and magnetic force to propel miniature slugs to lethal speeds. Nearly every gun on the battlefield is laden with features, from targeting auto-assists to projectile shavers that can generate thousands of rounds of ammunition from a small, internal block of metal." It's also easily noticeable during the gameplay, so You don't have to be a specialist to know that shotguns from a close range would blow Nihlus' head away.
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Post by brfritos on May 18, 2017 4:38:25 GMT
So... Mass relays are capable of surviving a SUPERNOVA but a punny asteroid tear thems apart? Also, since was never stated in the series that we don't know how the mechanics of mass relays work and how they are build (but it's heavely implied) and Kenson states that mass relays are programable, it wasn't easier to reprogram them not to accept Reaper's ships transfers or when they try to use one send them to inside a exploding sun, instead of GOING INTO A GALACTIC WAR? We did that in ME2, hacking one right? It's like the Nomad: let's make a vehicle to explore uncharted worlds capable of jumping. But not armed.
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Post by dmc1001 on May 18, 2017 4:48:37 GMT
We didn't really hack the Omega-4 relay so much as put an IFF on our ship that identified us as "friend" and so survive the trip.
I'm also not sure anyone knows enough about relays and how they work. Aethyta wanted to reproduce them but everyone laughed at her idea. I would guess not a lot has been done to study the relays.
Not sure why the asteroid destroyed the relay but not a supernova; however, can hazard a guess. The Mu Relay was far enough away that the shockwaves sent it hurtling through space before the explosion itself could wash over it. (My knowledge of this stuff is minimal so maybe I'm not making sense.) With the asteroid, it was just this physical thing hitting it with no warning so it destroyed the relay. Conjecture, of course, but maybe reasonable.
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Post by brfritos on May 18, 2017 8:20:09 GMT
We didn't really hack the Omega-4 relay so much as put an IFF on our ship that identified us as "friend" and so survive the trip. I'm also not sure anyone knows enough about relays and how they work. Aethyta wanted to reproduce them but everyone laughed at her idea. I would guess not a lot has been done to study the relays. Not sure why the asteroid destroyed the relay but not a supernova; however, can hazard a guess. The Mu Relay was far enough away that the shockwaves sent it hurtling through space before the explosion itself could wash over it. (My knowledge of this stuff is minimal so maybe I'm not making sense.) With the asteroid, it was just this physical thing hitting it with no warning so it destroyed the relay. Conjecture, of course, but maybe reasonable. Well, we installed a piece of hardware and modified the programming alowing us to safe pass the Omega-4 relay. At least if it is not hacking, then we are messing with ECM (eletronic counter-measures). So we destroy a Reaper or find a dead Reaper and modify the relays. Again, like we did in ME2. All of this speculation is based on how ME3 ended, since even in the Destroy ending we repair and reconstruct the mass relays, if you didn't exhausted all your forces and materials fighting the Reapers. The problem with the asteroid destroying a relay and not a supernova is that supernovas are much more destructive than asteroids or comets. The ammount of energy is so colossal that the number used to represent as the equivalent in TNT, the same type of measure used in nuclear weapons, is as follows: 1–2×1044 joules of energy, which is about 2.4 to 4.8 hundred billion yottatons (24 to 48 octillion (2.4–4.8×1028) megatons) of TNT, equivalent to the explosive force of a quantity of TNT over a trillion (1012) times the mass of the planet Earth.The estimated energy at impact when the largest fragment of Comet Shoemaker–Levy 9 struck Jupiter is equivalent to six million megatons (six trillion tons) of TNT. We even not talked about gamma ray burst radiation, wich supernovas produce and asteroids don't, wich in turn produce chemical reaction at the molecular level in elements. Like for example eezo, wich is a creation of supernovas affecting planets (is the codex definition, BTW). We can only speculate, since the game doesn't provide any info about the size of the asteroid or the type of supernova, but even with A LOT of good will it seems a contradiction that a mass relay can survive a supernova blast, but not a asteroid one.
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Post by sugarless on May 20, 2017 10:29:37 GMT
Why does Anderson tell Shepard twice, that he was born in London? Once in the comm room and again in the shuttle in London, with that shifty look on his face
Why are James' eyes not green if your crew survive in the Synthesis ending?
Apologies if these have been brought up before, but I noticed these during recent playthroughs....
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Post by dmc1001 on May 20, 2017 14:44:22 GMT
Why does Anderson tell Shepard twice, that he was born in London? Once in the comm room and again in the shuttle in London, with that shifty look on his face Anderson is old and forgot. Why are James' eyes not green if your crew survive in the Synthesis ending? Synthesis 1.0 has a bug wherein some users don't get the green eyes. It'll be fixed in the patch.
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Post by themikefest on May 21, 2017 16:52:04 GMT
If ems is below 2700, the catalyst will ask, "Why are you here?" when Shepard is on her/his hands and knees. Why would it ask that? Shepard had no control over the platform raising her/him up to the decision chamber.
If ems is above 2000, the soldiers are seen cheering in destroy and control endings, but they're not cheering during the synthesis ending. Why is that?
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Post by dmc1001 on May 21, 2017 17:32:12 GMT
If ems is above 2000, the soldiers are seen cheering in destroy and control endings, but they're not cheering during the synthesis ending. Why is that? EDI never really showed any emotions. I'd imagine the cyborgs resulting from Synthesis would be the same. That's the only way future wars could be prevented.
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How does Joker manage to (audibly) crack his knuckles without breaking them enroute to the Geth Dreadnought?
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How does Joker manage to (audibly) crack his knuckles without breaking them enroute to the Geth Dreadnought? People with brittle bone disease (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteogenesis_imperfecta) often have loose joints (double-jointed). Loose joints can often "crack" more easily.
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the timing of Hackett calling to Shepard over the comms. Hold on. How does he know its Shepard? It shows him getting a datapad, but mentions that someone made it up, but doesn't know who. Lets turn the clock back. Didn't the voices on the comms say that no one made it to the beam? So who passed the message that someone made it to the beam?
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the timing of Hackett calling to Shepard over the comms. Hold on. How does he know its Shepard? It shows him getting a datapad, but mentions that someone made it up, but doesn't know who. Lets turn the clock back. Didn't the voices on the comms say that no one made it to the beam? So who passed the message that someone made it to the beam? Maybe it was Anderson, both he and Shepard had working comms. Or maybe Major Coats when he did not find Shepard's corpse near the beam.
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Maybe it was Anderson, both he and Shepard had working comms. Or maybe Major Coats when he did not find Shepard's corpse near the beam. If Anderson did, then I would be curious why he didn't tell the others to not retreat but to head to the beam after Harbinger flew away. Coates says, over the comms, negative when asked if anyone made it to the beam.
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the timing of Hackett calling to Shepard over the comms. Hold on. How does he know its Shepard? It shows him getting a datapad, but mentions that someone made it up, but doesn't know who. Lets turn the clock back. Didn't the voices on the comms say that no one made it to the beam? So who passed the message that someone made it to the beam? Hackett calls Shepard saying the crucible isn't firing. It has to be something on Shepard's end. Shepard passes out. After that nothing. Why didn't he continue trying to get a hold of Shepard? Since he gets no response, why didn't he send a shuttle to Shepard's location? Maybe he did and it got destroyed. I doubt that since I'm sure a scene would've shown a shuttle headed towards the Citadel before it gets destroyed. Hackett has to know time is not on his side. Either way, I would've sent a shuttle to investigate. I believe Hackett actually says "He/she made it" after being handed the datapad. The only thing that could possibly explain it is if his comms officer is somehow directly tapped into Shepard's comm and overheard the conversation with Anderson. In the second case... the only thing I can suggest is that we are playing as Shepard and Shepard is passed out cold and unable to hear if Hackett is calling him or not... and the ascension... catalyst... and everything from that point forward represents the hallucinations of a dying person. I suppose another possibility is that the Catalyst starts blocking comms.
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Post by themikefest on May 23, 2017 2:54:09 GMT
I believe Hackett actually says "He/she made it" after being handed the datapad. The only thing that could possibly explain it is if his comms officer is somehow directly tapped into Shepard's comm and overheard the conversation with Anderson. If Hacketts comms officer is tapped into Shepard's comms he would have heard the conversation between Shepard, Anderson and Coates after the reaper was destroyed. Anderson also said that Hackett told him some reapers are headed their way. There would have been no need for Anderson to ask one his guys to get a hold of Hackett after that conversation. Ok. So why wouldn't Hackett send a shuttle to that location? Time is not on his side. What would he do if Shepard were to pass out a second time? Stand around twiddling his thumbs hoping for something to happen? The other thing is since Shepard heard Hackett's voice, why didn't he/she make any effort to get a hold of Hackett after regaining consciousness? I don't care if the thing is talking or not. I would at least let Hackett know I'm still around.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 4:51:44 GMT
I believe Hackett actually says "He/she made it" after being handed the datapad. The only thing that could possibly explain it is if his comms officer is somehow directly tapped into Shepard's comm and overheard the conversation with Anderson. If Hacketts comms officer is tapped into Shepard's comms he would have heard the conversation between Shepard, Anderson and Coates after the reaper was destroyed. Anderson also said that Hackett told him some reapers are headed their way. There would have been no need for Anderson to ask one his guys to get a hold of Hackett after that conversation. Ok. So why wouldn't Hackett send a shuttle to that location? Time is not on his side. What would he do if Shepard were to pass out a second time? Stand around twiddling his thumbs hoping for something to happen? The other thing is since Shepard heard Hackett's voice, why didn't he/she make any effort to get a hold of Hackett after regaining consciousness? I don't care if the thing is talking or not. I would at least let Hackett know I'm still around. If what we're being shown is all a hallucination of a dying man/woman (and no, I'm not talking about indoctrination here but what happens when anyone is dying)... we don't know what Hackett did or did not do. Maybe Hackett does send a shuttle and Shepard is recovered and the catalyst is never fired because no one gets it working or... maybe it didn't fail at all (i.e. it just was taking some time to prime and Hackett only thought it was malfunctioning so it fires on it's own after Shepard passes out). If we're dealing with a hallucination, time has no meaning and anything shown, including the epilogues, could just be extensions of that hallucination. There could have been literally no time between Shepard passing out and the crucible firing. There's a zillion possibilities if what we were shown is not actually real but only existing in Shepard's head. Say what you will, but there is some pretty strong religious imagery in the scene (even moreso in the original endings when there was a column of light involved when the platform ascended).
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Post by Treacherous J Slither on May 23, 2017 12:49:09 GMT
That ending boy lol
It always comes up
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on May 24, 2017 0:49:55 GMT
If ems is below 2700, the catalyst will ask, "Why are you here?" when Shepard is on her/his hands and knees. Why would it ask that? Shepard had no control over the platform raising her/him up to the decision chamber. If ems is above 2000, the soldiers are seen cheering in destroy and control endings, but they're not cheering during the synthesis ending. Why is that? He thinks your Anderson. Because they are wondering what is going on.
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Post by themikefest on May 24, 2017 4:03:30 GMT
What does Anderson have to do with that?
And once they know what's going on, they won't be cheering anytime soon. They'll most likely be trying to figure a way to get rid of the green crap on their bodies
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Post by themikefest on May 24, 2017 8:00:43 GMT
I'm surprised it was never mentioned if anyone made any attempt to get a hold of anyone on the Citadel to see if they could get the arms opened. Maybe they did and Bioware decided not to have it mentioned. Don't know
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Post by dmc1001 on May 24, 2017 12:14:37 GMT
I'm surprised it was never mentioned if anyone made any attempt to get a hold of anyone on the Citadel to see if they could get the arms opened. Maybe they did and Bioware decided not to have it mentioned. Don't know Even if they did try, we saw the state of things. Bodies littered the halls. We don't know it's the way everywhere but it's not exactly unlikely. Also, even if they reached someone, the Reapers probably controlled most of the doors and trams that would allow access, nevermind have the proper authority to do anything at all with the arms.
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Post by themikefest on May 24, 2017 12:24:09 GMT
Even if they did try, we saw the state of things. Bodies littered the halls. We don't know it's the way everywhere but it's not exactly unlikely. Also, even if they reached someone, the Reapers probably controlled most of the doors and trams that would allow access, nevermind have the proper authority to do anything at all with the arms. That wasn't the only location to open the arms. Why not go to the location that was seen in ME1? Why not get one of the councilors to give whoever the authority?
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