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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 22, 2017 13:10:54 GMT
Shes dying right, but shes frozen.
So to cure her you have one choice really, wait for SAM whos relying on all the genetic stuff you've scanned. But atm he has no eta on a cure and you have to find a cure while fighting Archons.
She may never even be cured within your lifetime which means she'd be waking up like Ellen Ripley 57 years later and all her children and her husband are dead. Only its actually 757 years later and the Reapers burnt our homeworld and murdered all your relatives. Oh and we're at war with the Kett. Hi, mom.
(Sad right? I know Zip. Don't tell me she'd want that.)
But....
What if we let the player choose between that and letting the Primus exalt their mother in an exchange for Meridian. Some of us don't like our mothers so its an easy choice. Some of us do like our mothers and that makes it harder.
Either way she can be special or something and like Han Solo (opposed to Ellen Ripley) you can live in hope of getting them back again within your lifetimes.
It makes things interesting, yes?
Would you exhalt your mother in a game? Let me know what you think below.
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 22, 2017 13:34:08 GMT
No, I don't think so. Exaltation makes the person Kett, thoroughly. It seems to rob them of free will. So far as we've seen, once exalted they are "Kett", with no real trace of whoever they were before. Exalting Ellen would be like killing her. I suppose you could live in hope that exaltation could be undone but it's more likely that the Kett would send her against Ryder knowing the pathfinder would refuse to harm her.
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Post by rasande on Apr 22, 2017 13:38:24 GMT
Keep that bitch on ice till they find a cure. I ain't making no mommy of mine no god damned space monkey.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 22, 2017 15:24:14 GMT
Keep that bitch on ice till they find a cure. I ain't making no mommy of mine no god damned space monkey. Its because Kett are black isn't it?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 16:08:23 GMT
I think you weren't paying attention playing the game. She's Ryder's mother, not mother in law.
One of the few women in the universe that at some point allowed you to touch their boobies and you want to exalt her? Shame on you.
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Post by timebean on Apr 22, 2017 16:14:17 GMT
What if we let the player choose between that and letting the Primus exalt their mother in an exchange for Meridian. Some of us don't like our mothers so its an easy choice. Some of us do like our mothers and that makes it harder. *Sips Ryncol* Damn Zap, that's cold. (heh...cold...frozen mom...get it?)
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Post by MarilynRobert on Apr 22, 2017 17:50:59 GMT
Of course I would NOT allow the Kett to exalt my mother. If you don't like your mother, just leave her in the freezer and let her wake up after everyone she loves is dead...that'll be punishment enough.
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Post by Deana on Apr 23, 2017 0:37:28 GMT
Might as well turn Shepard's mum into a husk while we're at it.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 23, 2017 0:52:51 GMT
Might as well turn Shepard's mum into a husk while we're at it. That would be lore breaking.
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Post by VanSinn on Apr 23, 2017 1:47:04 GMT
Ah zipzap2000 ... never change. Sometimes I read your threads and I'm all like but then I'm usually all like
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 23, 2017 2:15:31 GMT
Ah zipzap2000 ... never change. Sometimes I read your threads and I'm all like but then I'm usually all like Sometimes I worry if I might secretly be Sartoz. :Ryncol:
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 23, 2017 3:00:09 GMT
Might as well turn Shepard's mum into a husk while we're at it. No, because then BioWare would have to give a canon background to Shepard - or at least remove Colonist as an option. Spacer Shepard is known to have a mother that lived at least throughout most of ME3 (fate unknown, of course) and it's anyone's guess about Earthborn Shepard's mom. But don't break my Shepard's story to husk mom!
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 23, 2017 3:20:35 GMT
No, I don't think so. Exaltation makes the person Kett, thoroughly. It seems to rob them of free will. So far as we've seen, once exalted they are "Kett", with no real trace of whoever they were before. Exalting Ellen would be like killing her. I suppose you could live in hope that exaltation could be undone but it's more likely that the Kett would send her against Ryder knowing the pathfinder would refuse to harm her. But there are Kett who remember their old lives. What if the love she has for her children overcomes the 'indoctrination' like Benezia did? What if we get the end of the game and a magic device can turn the Kett back to normal or destroy them?
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 23, 2017 3:29:41 GMT
No, I don't think so. Exaltation makes the person Kett, thoroughly. It seems to rob them of free will. So far as we've seen, once exalted they are "Kett", with no real trace of whoever they were before. Exalting Ellen would be like killing her. I suppose you could live in hope that exaltation could be undone but it's more likely that the Kett would send her against Ryder knowing the pathfinder would refuse to harm her. But there are Kett who remember their old lives. What if the love she has for her children overcomes the 'indoctrination' like Benezia did? What if we get the end of the game and a magic device can turn the Kett back to normal or destroy them? Did some Kett remember their old lives? Must have missed it. Yeah, if that's a possibility, it might make it more of a possibility.
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Post by bryanky5 on Apr 23, 2017 3:43:51 GMT
But there are Kett who remember their old lives. What if the love she has for her children overcomes the 'indoctrination' like Benezia did? What if we get the end of the game and a magic device can turn the Kett back to normal or destroy them? Did some Kett remember their old lives? Must have missed it. Yeah, if that's a possibility, it might make it more of a possibility. Not sure how much they remember but one of the leaders of a Kett fortress mentions that they were once "unworthy" or whatever they said to describe themselves when they weren't kett. In other words they remember when they weren't kett but not necessarily what they did.
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Post by Light on Apr 23, 2017 4:07:52 GMT
That was on Voeld. Apparently those whale creatures allowed some of the Kett to have dreams of their past life.
It is remarked multiple times that Kett genetic engineering is decades ahead of anything that the Initiative has, so while not exhalting her but by having SAM study the tech is where the cure will likely come from.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 23, 2017 4:32:18 GMT
That was on Voeld. Apparently those whale creatures allowed some of the Kett to have dreams of their past life. It is remarked multiple times that Kett genetic engineering is decades ahead of anything that the Initiative has, so while not exhalting her but by having SAM study the tech is where the cure will likely come from. Yes and SAM says that his purpose to cure her and when you see her in the Pod SAM says all the genetics you scanned may help but not yet. Theres still every chance that might not happen and the only proven way to save her is to exhalt her now and hope for a cure to exhaltation later.
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Post by kenshen19 on Apr 23, 2017 19:35:21 GMT
My mom has been dead for awhile now so exalt away. Now if you want a living, breathing, hateful, vindictive hell spawn to exalt you can have my ex wife
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Post by cobalt72 on Apr 23, 2017 23:14:29 GMT
Eh, who cares about Shepard's mom? He surely didn't, only talked to her a hand full of times throughout the trilogy
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 24, 2017 2:09:28 GMT
Eh, who cares about Shepard's mom? He surely didn't, only talked to her a hand full of times throughout the trilogy You'd think she would have called him to find out if he was still alive or not in Mass Effect 2. They clearly had a fractured relationship after his father died.
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Post by raikas on Apr 24, 2017 3:46:37 GMT
Theres still every chance that might not happen and the only proven way to save her is to exhalt her now and hope for a cure to exhaltation later. Sure, sounds like an interesting idea. It would have been more interesting if the game had done a better job of building a sense of the Ryder family dynamic, but hey. Very few people would take it, but then very few people did the shoot Mordin in the back/shoot Wrex in the guts option in ME3 and it was still there. And it's not really any more ridiculous than a lot of the stuff that's actually in the game as it is!
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 24, 2017 5:28:42 GMT
Theres still every chance that might not happen and the only proven way to save her is to exhalt her now and hope for a cure to exhaltation later. Sure, sounds like an interesting idea. It would have been more interesting if the game had done a better job of building a sense of the Ryder family dynamic, but hey. Very few people would take it, but then very few people did the shoot Mordin in the back/shoot Wrex in the guts option in ME3 and it was still there. And it's not really any more ridiculous than a lot of the stuff that's actually in the game as it is! It plays out so much better if you don't tell your sibling about Alec and then take the 'you were in a coma.' option. I also shot Mordin.
And Padok.
And I let C-Sec shoot Wrex....the good old days.
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Post by FeralEwok on Apr 24, 2017 12:32:10 GMT
I'm not saying you might have mother issues... But...
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Apr 25, 2017 1:01:12 GMT
Given that spend no time with her I can't say I give of much a damn if she does get turned into a kett.
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