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Mattock X without passives against bronze raider:

Health: 783.75
Health: 720.75 Damage: 63 bodyshot
Health: 616.79 Damage: 103.96 headshot
Health: 553.79 Damage: 63 bodyshot
Health: 449.84 Damage: 103.95 headshot
Health: 386.84 Damage: 63 bodyshot
Health: 282.89 Damage: 103.95 headshot
Health: 219.89 Damage: 63 bodyshot

The menu says my mattock does 69 damage but only 63 was recorded.
-Mattock has 1.65 HS multiplier

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Apr 26, 2017 19:01:26 GMT hardcoresalmon said:

Mattock X without passives:

Health: 783.75
Health: 720.75 Damage: 63 bodyshot
Health: 616.79 Damage: 103.96 headshot
Health: 553.79 Damage: 63 bodyshot
Health: 449.84 Damage: 103.95 headshot
Health: 386.84 Damage: 63 bodyshot
Health: 282.89 Damage: 103.95 headshot
Health: 219.89 Damage: 63 bodyshot

The menu says my mattock does 69 damage but only 63 was recorded.
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Post by rlro on Apr 26, 2017 19:36:59 GMT

Welcome back Peddro! I really appreciate your tests

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Apr 26, 2017 19:02:55 GMT hardcoresalmon said:

Mattock X without passives against bronze raider:

Health: 783.75
Health: 720.75 Damage: 63 bodyshot
Health: 616.79 Damage: 103.96 headshot
Health: 553.79 Damage: 63 bodyshot
Health: 449.84 Damage: 103.95 headshot
Health: 386.84 Damage: 63 bodyshot
Health: 282.89 Damage: 103.95 headshot
Health: 219.89 Damage: 63 bodyshot

The menu says my mattock does 69 damage but only 63 was recorded.
-Mattock has 1.65 HS multiplier

They didn't update the in game numbers correctly apparently. 63 is what the one balance change we had said it was being changed to:

Mattock

Fixed an issue that prevented the Mattock from reaching its designed rate of fire
Lowered damage per round to partially offset increase in rate of fire
Lowered damage per round from 71–89 to 50–63
Increased spare ammo capacity from 112–140 to 160–200

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Props to Salmon for putting in work as well.

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Vanquisher IX no passives vs gold Raider:

Health: 2256.25
Health: 586.74 Damage: 1669.51 -headshot
Health: 0 Bodyshot - target died

Health: 1841.98
Health: 1046.98 Damage: 795 - bodyshot

Viper X no passives, gold raider:

Health: 2256.25
Health: 1829.25 Damage: 427 -bodyshot
Health: 932.54 Damage: 896.71 -headshot
Health: 35.84 Damage: 896.7 -headshot

-Raiders have 2256.25 health on gold 2.8X more than bronze
-Vanquisher has a 2.1 headshot multiplier
-Viper has a 2.1 headshot multiplier
-Human vanguard melee also has 275 base damage

You're right about this game being extremely annoying to test, trying to find the values alone takes ages.

Last Edit: Apr 26, 2017 21:17:12 GMT by hardcoresalmon

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Post by dcihnagv3z on Apr 26, 2017 20:02:24 GMT

Apr 26, 2017 17:15:28 GMT Mobius Y said:

Apr 26, 2017 4:56:34 GMT Kenny Bania said:

Awesome to see you involved.

It's more likely to render the evo useless.

I won't believe that without concrete proof but it's probably true.
Also I'm pretty sure the gimmick with 6a on Cloak is that it keeps you cloaked for those extra two seconds, not just the damage bonus. Not worth it if the damage bonus is always 2 seconds anyways.

Very interesting info, I would like to have it confirmed how cloak's damage bonus is functioning with/without 6a. Also, what about stealth grid? Does it actually have a damage bonus for 2 seconds?

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Post by peddroelm on Apr 26, 2017 20:03:01 GMT

once we learn more about the game (enemy hitpoint table) it will get a bit less tedious .. Still a lot of work

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BRONZE ARMOR FLAT -20 DR
KATANA HAS *1.25 bonus vs armor || UNLIKE ME3 bonus vs armor no longer amplifies the armor DR

infiltrator predator vs bronze armor

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Timediff: 2300.535 Damage : 36.700 // (54 * 1.05) - 20 = 36.7
Timediff: 1.196 Damage : 36.700 //
Timediff: 4.430 Damage : 36.700
Timediff: 0.196 Damage : 36.700
Timediff: 0.264 Damage : 36.700
Timediff: 5.933 Damage : 73.555 // HS (54 * (1 + 0.05) * 1.65) - 20 = 73.555
Timediff: 3.460 Damage : 73.555
Timediff: 14.695 Damage : 36.700
Timediff: 0.164 Damage : 36.700
Timediff: 0.162 Damage : 36.700
Timediff: 0.163 Damage : 36.700
Timediff: 6.428 Damage : 118.105 // Cloak HS 54 * (1 + 0.05+0.5)* 1.65 - 20 = 118.105
Timediff: 0.430 Damage : 118.105
Timediff: 0.931 Damage : 73.555
Timediff: 0.763 Damage : 73.555
Timediff: 0.492 Damage : 36.700

katana
Timediff: 6.962 Damage : 40.375 // (46 * (1+0.05) *1.25) - 20 = 40.375
Timediff: 0.004 Damage : 40.375
Timediff: 0.021 Damage : 40.375
Timediff: 0.003 Damage : 40.375
Timediff: 0.003 Damage : 40.375
Timediff: 0.014 Damage : 40.375
Timediff: 0.729 Damage : 40.375
Timediff: 0.003 Damage : 40.375
Timediff: 0.003 Damage : 40.375
Timediff: 0.014 Damage : 40.375
Timediff: 0.007 Damage : 40.375
Timediff: 0.009 Damage : 40.375
Timediff: 11.593 Damage : 25.000 // sticky impact ?
Timediff: 1.494 Damage : 1100.000 // sticky kaboom
Timediff: 6.760 Damage : 69.125
Timediff: 0.004 Damage : 69.125 // (46 * (1 + 0.05 + 0.5) * 1.25) - 20 = 69.125
Timediff: 0.027 Damage : 69.125
Timediff: 0.011 Damage : 69.125
Timediff: 0.004 Damage : 69.125
Timediff: 0.008 Damage : 69.125
Timediff: 8.993 Damage : 1.000
Timediff: 0.028 Damage : 40.375
Timediff: 0.003 Damage : 40.375
Timediff: 0.003 Damage : 40.375
Timediff: 0.012 Damage : 40.375
Timediff: 0.003 Damage : 40.375
Timediff: 0.003 Damage : 40.375
Timediff: 0.008 Damage : 40.375
Timediff: 4.028 Damage : 69.125
Timediff: 0.003 Damage : 69.125
Timediff: 0.019 Damage : 69.125
Timediff: 0.007 Damage : 69.125
Timediff: 0.004 Damage : 69.125
Timediff: 0.940 Damage : 64.525 //HS 46 * (1 + 0.05) * 1.4 * 1.25 - 20 = 64.525
Timediff: 0.027 Damage : 40.375

Last Edit: May 3, 2017 6:51:00 GMT by peddroelm

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Apr 26, 2017 22:01:38 GMT Miaoven Winter said:

Really need some concrete confirmation on damage windows for Cloak/Grid. I'm writing a beginner's guide rn, and that could greatly affect some builds.

Lol, so demanding.

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Apr 26, 2017 19:53:21 GMT hardcoresalmon said:

Raiders have 2256.25 health on gold 2.8X more than bronze

This is more health than Cerberus Troopers had on Platinum, according to Cyonan's ME3 spreadsheet. For comparison, Gold Troopers had 1687.5 HP.

I'm not sure I even want to know how much HP/Effective HP Berserkers have.

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Apr 27, 2017 0:28:01 GMT Pearl said:

Apr 26, 2017 19:53:21 GMT hardcoresalmon said:

I'm not sure I even want to know how much HP/Effective HP Berserkers have.

Enough to RAW! three times and remind you that your krogan is a wet soggy noodle with "sassy" and "spunky" dialog.

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Apr 27, 2017 0:28:01 GMT Pearl said:

This is more health than Cerberus Troopers had on Platinum, according to Cyonan 's ME3 spreadsheet. For comparison, Gold Troopers had 1687.5 HP.

I'm not sure I even want to know how much HP/Effective HP Berserkers have.

You may have misread the spreadsheet. 1687.5 is the gold level, 2194 is the platinum level.

2256.25 is only slightly above a cannibal on gold, and isn't a high number by me3 standards. But if you compare the number with weapon damage and headshot multipliers in MEA, then it is quite a lot higher.

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Apr 27, 2017 1:33:49 GMT hardcoresalmon said:

Apr 27, 2017 0:28:01 GMT Pearl said:

This is more health than Cerberus Troopers had on Platinum, according to Cyonan 's ME3 spreadsheet. For comparison, Gold Troopers had 1687.5 HP.

I'm not sure I even want to know how much HP/Effective HP Berserkers have.

You may have misread the spreadsheet. 1687.5 is the gold level, 2194 is the platinum level.

2256.25 is only slightly above a cannibal on gold, and isn't a high number by me3 standards. But if you compare the number with weapon damage and headshot multipliers in MEA, then it is quite a lot higher.

That was my point. Note how I said "higher than platinum" and then listed the number for Gold Troopers, since they are the closest ME3 analogue to Gold Raiders as there is no Platinum yet.

And yes, you are right about how it's only slightly more than cannibals.

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Apr 27, 2017 0:28:01 GMT Pearl said:

Apr 26, 2017 19:53:21 GMT hardcoresalmon said:

Raiders have 2256.25 health on gold 2.8X more than bronze

This is more health than Cerberus Troopers had on Platinum, according to Cyonan 's ME3 spreadsheet. For comparison, Gold Troopers had 1687.5 HP.

I'm not sure I even want to know how much HP/Effective HP Berserkers have.

If that holds true for other enemies, we've got weaker weapons but Plat comparable enemies in terms of health (but not damage), and yet somehow the game is easier than ME3.

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Post by capn233 on Apr 27, 2017 2:13:17 GMT

Tutorial mook irritating because he had like 6 addresses with the health value. Tried to test Combat Cloak duration with Raptor (mag size too small) and Charger (bit inaccurate) so not greatest experimental design ever.

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Quick Observations:

-Raptor does not appear to have hipfire / "no scope" penalty
-Raptor headshot multiplier 1.4
-Charger headshot multiplier 1.4
-Technical Synergy is applied during cloak bonus; adds with cloak, passive bonuses
-Cloak rank 4 bonus additive with rank 1, passive bonuses
-Combat Cloak damage buff duration likely only 2s total, less than half as long as Technical Synergy anyway.

Salarian Infiltrator (Lvl 20)

Tac Cloak - Damage, Duration, Combat
Rank 1 - 50% Weapon Dmg, Power Dmg
Rank 4 - 40% Weapon Dmg, 50% Power Dmg
Rank 6 - 2s duration

Offensive Tech - Power, Armor, Tech Synergy
8% Weapon dmg, 30% Power dmg
Rank 6 - 30% Weapon Dmg for 5s post tech

Test target: Tutorial Kett Chosen

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Raptor X (126 base damage)

Scoped Shots

At Timediff: 26.492 Health Damage : 136.080
At Timediff: 0.192 Health Damage : 136.080
At Timediff: 0.162 Health Damage : 136.080
At Timediff: 0.231 Health Damage : 136.080
At Timediff: 1.859 Health Damage : 136.080
At Timediff: 14.595 Health Damage : 190.512 hs
At Timediff: 0.393 Health Damage : 190.512 hs
At Timediff: 0.394 Health Damage : 136.080
At Timediff: 0.930 Health Damage : 136.080

126*(1 + 0.08) = 136.80 bodyshot

126*(1+0.08)*HS=190.512 --> HS=1.4

No Scope

At Timediff: 16.293 Health Damage : 190.512 hs
At Timediff: 8.825 Health Damage : 136.080
At Timediff: 10.762 Health Damage : 136.080

No damage penalty for hip fire observed
-accuracy penalty limits on target hits at tested range

***

Charger X (48 base damage)

At Timediff: 34.360 Health Damage : 51.840
At Timediff: 0.560 Health Damage : 51.840
At Timediff: 0.426 Health Damage : 51.840
At Timediff: 0.361 Health Damage : 51.840
At Timediff: 0.330 Health Damage : 51.840
At Timediff: 0.394 Health Damage : 51.840
At Timediff: 0.326 Health Damage : 51.840
At Timediff: 0.328 Health Damage : 51.840
At Timediff: 0.362 Health Damage : 51.840
At Timediff: 0.295 Health Damage : 51.840
At Timediff: 14.227 Health Damage : 109.440 <-cloak
At Timediff: 0.095 Health Damage : 109.440
At Timediff: 0.096 Health Damage : 109.440
At Timediff: 0.094 Health Damage : 109.440
At Timediff: 0.423 Health Damage : 109.440
At Timediff: 0.097 Health Damage : 109.440
At Timediff: 0.098 Health Damage : 109.440
At Timediff: 0.089 Health Damage : 109.440
At Timediff: 0.041 Health Damage : 109.440
At Timediff: 0.179 Health Damage : 109.440
At Timediff: 0.086 Health Damage : 109.440
At Timediff: 0.096 Health Damage : 109.440
At Timediff: 0.053 Health Damage : 109.440
At Timediff: 0.366 Health Damage : 66.240 <-tech synergy
At Timediff: 0.089 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.250 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.087 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.093 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.446 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.161 Health Damage : 66.240

Offensive Tech Bonus
48*(1+ 0.08) = 51.84

Offensive Tech, Technical Synergy
48*(1 + 0.08 + 0.3) = 66.24

Offensive Tech, Technical Synergy, Rank 1 Cloak, Rank 4 Cloak
48*(1 + 0.08 + 0.3 + 0.5 + 0.4) = 109.44

At Timediff: 0.094 Health Damage : 51.840
At Timediff: 0.057 Health Damage : 51.840
At Timediff: 0.093 Health Damage : 72.576
At Timediff: 0.091 Health Damage : 72.576 <-HS

HS = 1.4

--

Combat Cloak Bonus Duration

At Timediff: 12.896 Health Damage : 109.440
At Timediff: 0.139 Health Damage : 109.440
At Timediff: 0.114 Health Damage : 109.440
At Timediff: 0.159 Health Damage : 109.440
At Timediff: 0.093 Health Damage : 109.440
At Timediff: 0.107 Health Damage : 109.440
At Timediff: 0.082 Health Damage : 109.440
At Timediff: 0.061 Health Damage : 109.440
At Timediff: 0.077 Health Damage : 109.440
At Timediff: 0.075 Health Damage : 153.216 <-HS
At Timediff: 0.094 Health Damage : 153.216
At Timediff: 0.090 Health Damage : 153.216
At Timediff: 0.061 Health Damage : 153.216
At Timediff: 0.087 Health Damage : 109.440
At Timediff: 0.086 Health Damage : 109.440
At Timediff: 0.079 Health Damage : 109.440
At Timediff: 0.059 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.092 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.360 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.289 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.071 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.086 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.085 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.096 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.257 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.093 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.060 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.093 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.659 Health Damage : 66.240

48*(1 + 0.08 + 0.3 + 0.5 + 0.4)*1.4 = 153.216

At Timediff: 12.393 Health Damage : 392.000 <-energy drain
At Timediff: 0.327 Health Damage : 153.216
At Timediff: 0.094 Health Damage : 153.216
At Timediff: 0.072 Health Damage : 109.440
At Timediff: 0.073 Health Damage : 109.440
At Timediff: 0.095 Health Damage : 109.440
At Timediff: 0.138 Health Damage : 109.440
At Timediff: 0.094 Health Damage : 109.440
At Timediff: 0.256 Health Damage : 109.440
At Timediff: 0.089 Health Damage : 109.440
At Timediff: 0.095 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.050 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.087 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.095 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.098 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.057 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.093 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.088 Health Damage : 92.736
At Timediff: 0.093 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.094 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.061 Health Damage : 92.736
At Timediff: 0.093 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.094 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.162 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.094 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.194 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.149 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.094 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.094 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.092 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.160 Health Damage : 92.736
At Timediff: 0.193 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.061 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.093 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.194 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.157 Health Damage : 66.240
At Timediff: 0.195 Health Damage : 51.840
At Timediff: 0.091 Health Damage : 51.840
At Timediff: 0.059 Health Damage : 51.840
At Timediff: 0.093 Health Damage : 51.840

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Post by capn233 on Apr 27, 2017 2:48:13 GMT

Quick addendum to above...

Vanquisher III (705 base) on SI vs Tutorial Kett Chosen

Scope body shot

At Timediff: 37.992 Health Damage : 761.400
At Timediff: 6.690 Health Damage : 761.400

705*(1+0.08) = 761.4

Unscoped body shot

At Timediff: 22.094 Health Damage : 380.700
At Timediff: 19.058 Health Damage : 380.700

380.7/761.4=0.5

Vanquisher III has 0.5x penalty for hipfire / "no-scope"

Last Edit: Apr 28, 2017 4:05:06 GMT by capn233

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Apr 27, 2017 2:13:17 GMT capn233 said:

Tutorial mook irritating because he had like 6 addresses with the health value.

Sadly that is not an issue of the tutorial. Its an issue with andromeda/frosbite

.. All hit point variables have "copies" but only one is the "real" one.. Increases the tedium a bit ..

Viper has *2.1 HS mod and *0.5 out of scope.
Cloaking after casting DOT doesn't increase DOT damage

Cloaking damage bonus can apply to TWO melee attacks

INFILTRATOR viper 1 321 // 5% passive weapon damage

SPOILER: Click to show

Timediff: 12.225 Damage : 440.000 // 275 * (1 + 0.6)
Timediff: 1.228 Damage : 440.000 // two melee strikes with cloak bonus
Timediff: 1.227 Damage : 275.000
Timediff: 15.929 Damage : 337.050 // 321 * (1 + 0.05) scope viper
Timediff: 4.059 Damage : 168.525 // out of scope 321 * 0.5 * (1 + 0.05) =168.525
Timediff: 4.961 Damage : 168.525
Timediff: 4.660 Damage : 353.902 // out of scope HS 321 * 0.5 * (1 + 0.05) * 2.1 =353.9025
Timediff: 7.494 Damage : 120.000
Timediff: 0.493 Damage : 25.000
Timediff: 0.514 Damage : 25.000
Timediff: 0.475 Damage : 25.000
Timediff: 0.493 Damage : 25.000
Timediff: 0.493 Damage : 25.000
Timediff: 0.494 Damage : 25.000 // Cloaking after casting DOT doesn't increase DOT damage
Timediff: 0.493 Damage : 25.000
Timediff: 0.494 Damage : 25.000
Timediff: 0.493 Damage : 25.000
Timediff: 0.493 Damage : 25.000
Timediff: 0.493 Damage : 25.000
Timediff: 0.493 Damage : 25.000
Timediff: 12.261 Damage : 707.805 // HS 321 * (1 + 0.05) * 2.1 =707.805

Last Edit: May 3, 2017 6:51:44 GMT by peddroelm

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Apr 27, 2017 1:55:03 GMT bjorndadwarf said:

If that holds true for other enemies, we've got weaker weapons but Plat comparable enemies in terms of health (but not damage), and yet somehow the game is easier than ME3.

It is not easier, it is probably harder because the last 4 waves have been cut off. IDK but maybe the game becomes essentially unplayable on later waves or takes too long to finish and they just castrated it right through the middle without even trying to balance or adjust. If talking about time, average gold pug in Meda takes about 15-16 munites minus two minutes for extraction, so something around 13-14 min times 2 = 26-28 plus extraction = about 28-30 minutes. Which looks like quite slow platinum to me.

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