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Numerical Damage Tests May 19, 2017 19:49:48 GMT peddroelm likes this

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Post by srkm00b on May 19, 2017 19:49:48 GMT

May 19, 2017 19:12:31 GMT JRandall0308 said:

They intimated in the Twitch that the Soned was also really good - any weird mechanics with that gun?

Just tested it for a little while. Nothing seemed weird about it unfortunately. Still inaccurate as hell and no weird damage bonuses. No reload speed bonuses.

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Numerical Damage Tests May 19, 2017 19:54:50 GMT via mobile

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Post by tyrion26 on May 19, 2017 19:54:50 GMT

May 19, 2017 19:49:48 GMT srkm00b said:

May 19, 2017 19:12:31 GMT JRandall0308 said:

They intimated in the Twitch that the Soned was also really good - any weird mechanics with that gun?

Just tested it for a little while. Nothing seemed weird about it unfortunately. Still inaccurate as hell and no weird damage bonuses. No reload speed bonuses.

Still think it's outclassed by the rozerad, especially considering the extreme weight disparity.

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Numerical Damage Tests May 19, 2017 20:33:19 GMT Heroicmass, akots, and 1 more like this

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Post by crashsuit on May 19, 2017 20:33:19 GMT

Maybe they're seeing damage numbers or kill stats from hackers, and they're thinking "wow, these guys are good".

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Numerical Damage Tests May 19, 2017 21:16:24 GMT unclemonster, peddroelm, and 1 more like this

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Post by capn233 on May 19, 2017 21:16:24 GMT

May 19, 2017 9:17:46 GMT peddroelm said:

May 19, 2017 5:10:57 GMT konfeta said:

Are synthetic damage bonuses additive to something or multiplicative to all other bonuses?

how about they don't do much at all most of the time ? (preliminary findings) If remnant aren't syntetic than who the hell is ?
EDIT: they do nothing extra vs observer shields. Only the 15% from rank 1 applies vs assembler health (additive) ..

0.30 engineering gear
ed 175 base 100% vs shields 15% vs syntetics
0.25 damage rank 3
6a 0.35 damage 0.15 vs syntetics +0.75 vs shields

silver test vs remnant

175 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.35 + 0.15 + 0.3) = 358.75 // ONLY 15% additive but I had two of those ..
175 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.35 + 0.3) * (1 + 1 + 0.75) = 914.375// no 15% at all ..

HP, 5739937, 6297, 937D0CF0, 495.000, 495.000, 136.250, -358.750 // assembler
SH, 11806062, 9406, 93B592F0, 1600.000, 1600.000, 685.625, -914.375 // observer shields

Somebody needs to take a closer look at overload and ED's vs syntetic bonuses at some point ..

// switched sentinels no 6a ; no engineer gear
HP, 13113609, 91578, 8ABA9D60, 1600.000, 1600.000, 1355.000, -245.000
SH, 13007718, 0, 979BD090, 1600.000, 1600.000, 1162.500, -437.500

175 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.15) = 245 // 15% from rank 1 is additive vs Health
175 * (1 + 0.25) * (1 + 1) = 437.5 // nothing extra vs syntetic shields

Similar to when I did Remnant VI Rank 6 Electric Beam. The synthetic bonus was additive against Remnant health and Hydra armor (yellow health), but did nothing to shields. My guess was that shields aren't classed as anything other than "shields."

Avenger Strike's version didn't work against anything.

I'll take at look at Overload and EDrain later if nobody has beaten me to it.

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Numerical Damage Tests May 20, 2017 4:15:18 GMT

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Post by konfeta on May 20, 2017 4:15:18 GMT

Alright nerds, I have a doozy for you. It's the favorite subject of DoT lovers everywhere - how does all of this shit stack? Example scenario:

1. Flamethrower Turret sets a jerk on fire.
2. You throw a detonator Incinerate at the jerk, exploding him, and setting him even harder on fire.
3. The nice and helpful Turret is still shooting at the jerk, setting him even more on fire.

Which DoTs are active on the target at the moment? Incinerate's DoT, Turret's DoT, Fire Detonation DoT? And now, what if...

4. A helpful Flamethrower Krogan runs by and Flamethrowers the thrice set on fire jerk with his Big Daddy Flamethrower? And what happens to the Elemental Tech evolution which makes jerks who are on fire take more fire damage?

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Numerical Damage Tests May 20, 2017 18:12:58 GMT cato, Ares, and 6 more like this

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Post by capn233 on May 20, 2017 18:12:58 GMT

Overload and Energy Drain Bonus Tests

Overload
-Rank 1 Synthetic bonus works, and is additive. Applies to Assembler health, Observer health, Nullifier armor, Destroyer armor, and Hydra armor.
-Rank 1 Synthetic bonus does not apply to shields, or to Destroyer turret armor.
-Rank 6 Synthetic bonus works, and is additive. Applies to same units as the Rank 1 bonus.

-Rank 1 Shield bonus is a multiplier against shields.
-Rank 5 Shield bonus adds to the shield multiplier
-Rank 6 shield bonus adds to the shield multiplier.

-Chain reduction to base damage appears to work as expected.
-Charged increase to base damage appears to work as expected.

-Rank 3 Damage bonus is additive. Didn't look at Rank 4 (had Recharge).

-Overload can get weak point hits against Hydra targeting pod (1.15x) and tank (1.6x), consistent with base 1.4x weak point bonus. No other weak point bonus hits observed.

-Overload can bleed through Bronze Observer shields. The shield hit will be scaled by shield multiplier, then the remaining damage loses the shield multiplier. However, the bleed through damage does not gain synthetic bonus.
-Overload did not bleed past shields on Silver or Gold.

Energy Drain
-Rank 1 synthetic bonus works, and is additive. Applies to Assembler health, Observer health, Nullifier armor, Destroyer armor, and Hydra armor.
-Rank 1 Synthetic bonus does not apply to shields, or to Destroyer turret armor.
-Rank 6 Synthetic bonus does not work.

-Rank 1 Shield bonus is a multiplier against shields.
-Rank 6 shield bonus adds to the shield multiplier.

-Energy Drain can bleed through Bronze Observer shields. Bleed through damage loses shield multiplier, but does not gain synthetic bonus.

-Energy Drain can get weak point hits on Hydra targeting pod (1.15x) and tank (1.6x) consistent with base 1.4x weak point bonus. No other weak point bonus hits observed.

Other Shield Gate Observations
-Silver shield gate completely stopped Equalizer and Hornet hits.
-Equalizer weak point hit did not allow it to bleed past shield gate.

*****

SPOILER: Click to show

Overload

HE (no passive)

Overload 1
200 Dmg Uncharged, 300 dmg charged, 125% Shield Damage, 30% Synthetic Bonus

--Uncharged --

Overload v Assembler
HP, 79970437, 7969, 91333FF0, 825.000, 825.000, 565.000, -260.000
HP, 80012500, 37063, 91333FF0, 825.000, 565.000, 305.000, -260.000

200*(1+0.3)=260

-Rank 1 synthetic bonus works against Assembler.

-

Overload v Observer Shields
SH, 80043109, 6109, 8AAAB8F0, 825.000, 825.000, 375.000, -450.000
SH, 80059234, 16125, 8AAAB8F0, 825.000, 825.000, 375.000, -450.000

200*(1)*(1+1.25)=450

-Rank 1 shield bonus works against Observer shields.
-Rank 1 synthetic bonus does not apply to Observer shields

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Observer Health
HP, 80266546, 1906, 8F42EDC0, 495.000, 495.000, 235.000, -260.000

-

Nullifier
Type, tickCount, tickDiff, Address, Max, Before, After, Diff
HP, 80467000, 200454, 92DA5C20, 2640.000, 1855.440, 1595.440, -260.000

-

Destroyer Shields
SH, 80944140, 7031, 8CA1C070, 33000.000, 33000.000, 32550.000, -450.000

Destroyer Armor
HP, 81013578, 1875, 973210B0, 1031.250, 1031.250, 831.250, -200.000

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Turret Shield
SH, 80964781, 20641, 973217C0, 3712.500, 3712.500, 3262.500, -450.000

Turret Armor
HP, 81013578, 1875, 973210B0, 1031.250, 1031.250, 831.250, -200.000

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Sharpshooter
SH, 81706828, 42438, 8FF6C6E0, 1280.000, 1280.000, 830.000, -450.000

HP, 81747281, 5235, 8FF6BFD0, 1600.000, 1600.000, 1400.000, -200.000

-Rank 1 synthetic bonus also applies to Observer health, Nullifier armor, and Destroyer armor.
-Rank 1 synthetic bonus does not apply to Destroyer shields, and Destroyer Turret shields or armor.
-Rank 1 shield bonus works correctly for Destroyer, Destroyer Turret, and Sharpshooter shields

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Hydra - Targeting Pod Hit
HP, 82579406, 804547, 9D0AD5A0, 25600.000, 25600.000, 25301.000, -299.000

HP, 82608062, 21500, 9D0AD5A0, 25600.000, 25600.000, 25301.000, -299.000

200*(1+0.3)*1.15=299

-Rank 1 synthetic bonus works against Hydra.
-Overload can get weak point bonus against Hydra targeting pod c/w 1.4x base weak point multiplier.

-

--Charged--

Assembler + Observer
HP, 80095140, 14234, 91333FF0, 825.000, 825.000, 435.000, -390.000
SH, 80095312, 172, 97CEAC90, 825.000, 825.000, 600.000, -225.000

300*(1+0.3)=390

100*(1)*(1+1.25)=225

-

Observer Shields + Assembler
SH, 80131437, 36125, 8AAAB8F0, 825.000, 825.000, 150.000, -675.000
HP, 80131609, 172, 91333FF0, 825.000, 825.000, 695.000, -130.000

300*(1)*(1+1.25)=675

100*(1+0.3)=130

-Synthetic and shield bonuses work when applicable for charged chain.

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HE (no passive)

Overload 6
200 Dmg Uncharged, 300 dmg charged, 125% Shield Damage, 30% Synthetic Bonus
25% dmg
60% shields
60% dmg shields, 15% synthetic

Assembler (Bronze)
HP, 87219578, 11407, 9B2D5C60, 825.000, 825.000, 485.000, -340.000

200*(1+0.3+0.25+0.15)=340

-Overload Rank 6 synthetic bonus works against Assembler

-

Observer (Bronze)
SH, 87241578, 16735, 8D34BE70, 825.000, 825.000, 0.000, -825.000
HP, 87241578, 0, 8D34B760, 495.000, 495.000, 484.130, -10.870

HP, 87268343, 1375, 8D34B760, 495.000, 418.130, 78.130, -340.000

200*(1+0.25)*(1+1.25+0.6+0.6)=862.5

862.5-825=37.5

37.5/(1+1.25+0.6+0.6)=10.870

-Overload can bleed through Bronze Observer shields. Bleed through loses shield multiplier, but does not gain Rank 1 or 6 synthetic bonus.
-Rank 6 synthetic bonus works against Observer health.

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Observer (Gold)
SH, 135000343, 6265, 8F787A40, 2375.000, 2375.000, 1512.500, -862.500

HP, 135042750, 1000, 8F787330, 1425.000, 1349.100, 1009.100, -340.000

SH, 135465812, 1312, 8F787A40, 2375.000, 18.305, 0.000, -18.305

SH, 135986343, 1265, 8CA0A6B0, 2375.000, 71.435, 0.000, -71.435

HP, 136003875, 563, 8CA09FA0, 1425.000, 1425.000, 1085.000, -340.000

-Gold Observer shield gate completely stops Overload bleed through.
-18 damage out of an Overload cast is pitiful.

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Charged v Observer (Gold)
SH, 135370734, 2391, 8F787A40, 2375.000, 291.545, 0.000, -291.545
SH, 135370906, 172, 8CB9B090, 2375.000, 2375.000, 1943.750, -431.250

SH, 135558234, 2188, 8F787A40, 2375.000, 306.725, 0.000, -306.725
SH, 135558406, 172, 8CB9B090, 2375.000, 2375.000, 1943.750, -431.250

-Charged Overload does not gain ability to bleed past Gold Observer shield gate.

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Nullifier (Gold)
HP, 135150046, 2000, 9035BB60, 7600.000, 7398.101, 7058.101, -340.000

-

Destroyer
SH, 136076812, 8172, 8F783DE0, 10687.500, 10687.500, 9825.000, -862.500

HP, 136239843, 500, 94DE1A10, 22800.000, 21002.000, 20662.000, -340.000
HP, 136255421, 875, 94DE1A10, 22800.000, 17655.475, 17315.475, -340.000

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Destroyer Turret
SH, 136100015, 10031, 9EA83D80, 10687.500, 10687.500, 9825.000, -862.500

HP, 136174734, 1375, 8F7836D0, 2968.750, 2255.750, 2005.750, -250.000
HP, 136200593, 5672, 8F7836D0, 2968.750, 2005.750, 1755.750, -250.000

200*(1+0.25)=250

-

Observer (Silver)
SH, 136677703, 2235, 955B9920, 1600.000, 1600.000, 737.500, -862.500

SH, 136897046, 1203, 955B9920, 1600.000, 78.205, 0.000, -78.205

-Silver Observer shield gate completely stops Overload.

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Energy Drain

HSe (no passive)

Energy Drain 1
175 dmg, 100% to shields, 15% to synthetics

Engineering Kit - 30%

-

Assembler (Bronze)
HP, 83296562, 10766, 8EE59CE0, 825.000, 825.000, 571.250, -253.750

175*(1+0.15+0.3)=253.75

-

Observer
SH, 83308625, 12063, 9B7D50F0, 825.000, 825.000, 370.000, -455.000
HP, 83329625, 1594, 9B7D49E0, 495.000, 495.000, 241.250, -253.750

175*(1+0.3)*(1+1)=455

-

Nullifier
HP, 83788218, 350390, 8A040790, 2640.000, 2640.000, 2386.250, -253.750

-

Destroyer Turret
SH, 84086890, 11906, 8A4FF270, 3712.500, 3712.500, 3257.500, -455.000
HP, 84155218, 1203, 8A4FEB60, 1031.250, 704.250, 476.750, -227.500

175*(1+0.3)=227.5

-

Destroyer
SH, 84086890, 11906, 8A4FF270, 3712.500, 3712.500, 3257.500, -455.000
HP, 84196718, 3125, 9D0C6960, 7920.000, 4964.170, 4710.420, -253.750

-Rank 1 Energy Drain synthetic bonus works against Assembler health, Observer health, Nullifier armor, and Destroyer armor.
-Rank 1 synthetic bonus does not apply to Observer shields, Destroyer Shields, or Destroyer Turret shields and armor.
-Rank 1 shield bonus works against tested shields.

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HSe (no passive)

Energy Drain 6
175 dmg, 100% to shields, 15% to synthetics
25% dmg
30% dmg
35% dmg, 75% dmg shields, 15% dmg synthetics

Engineering Kit - 30%

-

Assembler
HP, 84433625, 6172, 8D3EF0B0, 825.000, 825.000, 413.750, -411.250

175*(1+0.15+0.25+0.3+0.35+0.15+0.3)=437.5

175*(1+0.15+0.25+0.3+0.35+0.3)=411.25

-Rank 6 synthetic bonus was not applied to Assembler.

-

Observer
SH, 84467156, 15203, 8A34B700, 825.000, 825.000, 0.000, -825.000
HP, 84467156, 0, 8A34AFF0, 495.000, 495.000, 410.000, -85.000

175*(1+0.25+0.3+0.35+0.3)*(1+1+0.75)=1058.75

1058.75-825=233.75

233.75/(1+1+0.75)=85

-Energy Drain bled through shield gate against Bronze Observer. Bleed through lost shield multiplier, and did not gain Rank 1 synthetic bonus.

-

Nullifier
HP, 140489734, 163500, 92977F70, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7188.750, -411.250

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Destroyer Turret
SH, 85160593, 9172, 9BFD3E00, 3712.500, 3712.500, 2653.750, -1058.750

HP, 85544156, 2188, 9BFD36F0, 1031.250, 975.250, 590.250, -385.000

175*(1+0.25+0.3+0.35+0.3)=385

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Destroyer
SH, 85160593, 9172, 9BFD3E00, 3712.500, 3712.500, 2653.750, -1058.750

HP, 85443625, 3297, 910FFEB0, 2640.000, 1671.852, 1260.602, -411.250
HP, 85520968, 3109, 9DB1F940, 7920.000, 5974.000, 5562.750, -411.250

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Sharpshooter
SH, 86915687, 17594, 8CA50C90, 1280.000, 1280.000, 221.250, -1058.750

-Rank 6 shield bonus appears to work, adds with Rank 1.
-Rank 6 synthetic bonus does not work against Remnant units tested.

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Hydra Tank Hit From Above
HP, 139924437, 840984, 9740AF40, 38000.000, 38000.000, 37342.000, -658.000

175*(1+0.15+0.25+0.3+0.35+0.3)*1.6=658

-Rank 6 synthetic bonus not applied, weak point bonus for Tank applied.

-

Hydra Targeting Pod Hit
HP, 140139500, 1172, 9740AF40, 38000.000, 32702.297, 32229.359, -472.938

175*(1+0.15+0.25+0.3+0.35+0.3)*1.15=472.938

-Rank 6 synthetic bonus not applied. Weak point bonus for Targeting Pod applied.

-
More Tank Hits
HP, 140174359, 3156, 9740AF40, 38000.000, 21670.637, 21012.637, -658.000

HP, 140198296, 23937, 9740AF40, 38000.000, 21012.637, 20354.637, -658.000

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Hydra Front Hits After Targeting Pod Destroyed
HP, 140237125, 25829, 9740AF40, 38000.000, 19696.637, 19285.387, -411.250
HP, 140237125, 25829, 9740AF40, 38000.000, 19696.637, 19285.387, -411.250
HP, 140276406, 39281, 9740AF40, 38000.000, 19285.387, 18874.137, -411.250

HP, 140299031, 22625, 9740AF40, 38000.000, 18874.137, 18462.887, -411.250

HP, 140314500, 15469, 9740AF40, 38000.000, 18462.887, 17804.887, -658.000 <-tank hit from front cast
HP, 140326234, 11734, 9740AF40, 38000.000, 17804.887, 17393.637, -411.250

****

Some Shield Gate Pistol Tests

Equalizer v Observer (Silver)
SH, 136925812, 109, 955B9920, 1600.000, 100.975, 25.075, -75.900 <-shield multiplier
SH, 136925906, 94, 955B9920, 1600.000, 25.075, 0.000, -25.075 <-hits gate
HP, 136926203, 297, 955B9210, 960.000, 960.000, 894.000, -66.000
HP, 136926312, 109, 955B9210, 960.000, 894.000, 828.000, -66.000
HP, 136926406, 94, 955B9210, 960.000, 828.000, 752.100, -75.900 <-weak point
HP, 136926515, 109, 955B9210, 960.000, 752.100, 686.100, -66.000
HP, 136926609, 94, 955B9210, 960.000, 686.100, 620.100, -66.000

SH, 137116109, 94, 955B9920, 1600.000, 230.005, 154.105, -75.900
SH, 137116218, 109, 955B9920, 1600.000, 154.105, 66.820, -87.285 <-shield weak point
SH, 137116312, 94, 955B9920, 1600.000, 66.820, 0.000, -66.820 <-hits gate
HP, 137116609, 297, 955B9210, 960.000, 501.100, 425.200, -75.900
HP, 137116718, 109, 955B9210, 960.000, 425.200, 349.300, -75.900
HP, 137116812, 94, 955B9210, 960.000, 349.300, 273.400, -75.900
HP, 137116921, 109, 955B9210, 960.000, 273.400, 197.500, -75.900
HP, 137117015, 94, 955B9210, 960.000, 197.500, 121.600, -75.900
HP, 137117109, 94, 955B9210, 960.000, 121.600, 45.700, -75.900

-Silver Observer shield gate completely blocks Equalizer bleed through.

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Hornet v Observer Shield (Silver)
SH, 137075750, 641, 955B9920, 1600.000, 552.800, 433.800, -119.000
SH, 137075812, 62, 955B9920, 1600.000, 433.800, 314.800, -119.000
SH, 137076343, 531, 955B9920, 1600.000, 314.800, 195.800, -119.000
SH, 137076421, 78, 955B9920, 1600.000, 195.800, 76.800, -119.000
SH, 137076484, 63, 955B9920, 1600.000, 76.800, 0.000, -76.800 <-hits shield gate
HP, 137077218, 734, 955B9210, 960.000, 620.100, 501.100, -119.000

-Silver Observer shield gate completely blocks Hornet bleed through.

-

Equalizer v Sharpshooter (Silver)
SH, 137425203, 3000, 8D6ABB00, 1280.000, 195.114, 119.214, -75.900
SH, 137425312, 109, 8D6ABB00, 1280.000, 119.214, 43.314, -75.900
SH, 137425703, 391, 8D6ABB00, 1280.000, 43.314, 0.000, -43.314 <-hits gate
HP, 137426000, 297, 8D6AB3F0, 1600.000, 1240.000, 1174.000, -66.000
HP, 137426109, 109, 8D6AB3F0, 1600.000, 1600.000, 1534.000, -66.000
HP, 137426203, 94, 8D6AB3F0, 1600.000, 1600.000, 1534.000, -66.000
HP, 137426312, 109, 8D6AB3F0, 1600.000, 1600.000, 1534.000, -66.000
HP, 137426406, 94, 8D6AB3F0, 1600.000, 1600.000, 1534.000, -66.000

SH, 137470500, 94, 8D6ABB00, 1280.000, 202.220, 95.960, -106.260 <-weak point shield hit
SH, 137470609, 109, 8D6ABB00, 1280.000, 95.960, 0.000, -95.960 <-weak point shield hit stopped
HP, 137470906, 297, 8D6AB3F0, 1600.000, 1600.000, 1534.000, -66.000
HP, 137471000, 94, 8D6AB3F0, 1600.000, 1600.000, 1534.000, -66.000
HP, 137471109, 109, 8D6AB3F0, 1600.000, 1600.000, 1534.000, -66.000
HP, 137471203, 94, 8D6AB3F0, 1600.000, 1600.000, 1507.600, -92.400
HP, 137471312, 109, 8D6AB3F0, 1600.000, 1600.000, 1507.600, -92.400

-Sharpshooter shield gate blocks Equalizer bleed through on normal and weak point hit.

Last Edit: May 20, 2017 18:22:04 GMT by capn233

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Numerical Damage Tests May 21, 2017 1:01:48 GMT capn233, akots, and 2 more like this

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Post by lennybusker on May 21, 2017 1:01:48 GMT

Thanks to a comment on Reddit, went and tested and found that Remnant VI 6B is another multi-detonator power, one that also doesn't have a damage penalty like Throw and Shockwave. This makes those two powers very suspicious. My guess at dev justification for their combo damage penalty doesn't jive with the fact that there are 3 other multi-det powers that have none.

SPOILER: Click to show

HP, 1359121286, 59437, 972C14E0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1217.500, -682.500 //Incinerate Adhi 1
HP, 1359121286, 0, 9754A770, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1217.500, -682.500 //Incinerate AOE
HP, 1359121348, 62, 9754A770, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1217.500, -682.500 //Incinerate Adhi 2
HP, 1359121348, 0, 972C14E0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1217.500, -682.500 //Incinerate AOE
HP, 1359121785, 437, 972C14E0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1869.625, -30.375 //Incinerate DOT
HP, 1359121785, 0, 9754A770, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1869.625, -30.375
HP, 1359122284, 499, 972C14E0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1869.625, -30.375
HP, 1359122284, 0, 9754A770, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1869.625, -30.375
HP, 1359122783, 499, 972C14E0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1869.625, -30.375
HP, 1359122783, 0, 9754A770, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1869.625, -30.375
HP, 1359123283, 500, 972C14E0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1869.625, -30.375
HP, 1359123283, 0, 9754A770, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1869.625, -30.375
HP, 1359123782, 499, 972C14E0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1869.625, -30.375
HP, 1359123782, 0, 9754A770, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1869.625, -30.375
HP, 1359124281, 499, 972C14E0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1869.625, -30.375
HP, 1359124297, 16, 9754A770, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1869.625, -30.375
HP, 1359124780, 483, 972C14E0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1869.625, -30.375
HP, 1359124780, 0, 9754A770, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1869.625, -30.375
HP, 1359125279, 499, 972C14E0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1869.625, -30.375
HP, 1359125295, 16, 9754A770, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1869.625, -30.375
HP, 1359125794, 499, 972C14E0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1869.625, -30.375
HP, 1359125794, 0, 9754A770, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1869.625, -30.375
HP, 1359126293, 499, 972C14E0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1869.625, -30.375
HP, 1359126293, 0, 9754A770, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1869.625, -30.375
HP, 1359126496, 203, 972C14E0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1450.000, -450.000 //Remnant VI Missile Adhi 1
HP, 1359126496, 0, 972C14E0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1220.000, -680.000 //Fire Combo 1 - Adhi 1
HP, 1359126496, 0, 9754A770, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1220.000, -680.000 //Fire Combo 1 AOE
HP, 1359126496, 0, 9754A770, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1450.000, -450.000 //Remnant VI Missile Adhi 2
HP, 1359126496, 0, 9754A770, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1220.000, -680.000 //Fire Combo 2 - Adhi 2 (Adhi 1 on cooldown)
HP, 1359126995, 499, 972C14E0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1875.500, -24.500 //Fire Combo DOT
HP, 1359126995, 0, 9754A770, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1875.500, -24.500
HP, 1359127479, 484, 972C14E0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1875.500, -24.500

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Post by peddroelm on May 21, 2017 6:06:35 GMT

took a look at exploding singularity

Exploding singularity removes the (biotic priming) (expose debuff) before the explosion.
Power Damage applies, the 30% from adaptive war amp gear worked , the 40% from Offensive Biotics 6A biotic expert ~~did NOT ¯\_(ツ)_/¯~~ remember 3 second temp bonus (works if you detonate in time) .
(the 40% from Offensive Biotics 6A biotic expert worked for singularity DOT ticks and shockwave impact).

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human adept bronze
350 explo base
35/2 DPS singu base +0.4
0.2 debuff vs primed
245 base shock +0.3
pasive 25% PD 40% Biotic expert TEMP BONUS
gear 30% adaptive war amp

HP, 902339453, 902339453, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 122.250, -661.500 // shockwave 245 * (1 + 0.3 + 0.3 + 0.25 + 0.4) * 1.2 = 661.5
HP, 902339453, 0, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 536.550, -247.200 // 412 * 0.5 * 1.2 = 247.2 combo vs debuff
HP, 902339468, 15, 83128170, 783.750, 783.750, 577.750, -206.000 // 412 * 0.5 = 206 combo vs no debuff
HP, 902339656, 188, 83128170, 783.750, 783.750, 232.500, -551.250
HP, 902355250, 15594, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 122.250, -661.500 // shockwave
HP, 902355265, 15, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 536.550, -247.200 // combo
HP, 902371593, 16328, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 734.400, -49.350 // (35 / 2) * (1 + 0.4 + 0.3 + 0.25 + 0.4) * 1.2 = 49.35
HP, 902372093, 500, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 734.400, -49.350 // singu dot ticks
HP, 902372593, 500, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 734.400, -49.350
HP, 902373093, 500, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 734.400, -49.350
HP, 902373593, 500, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 734.400, -49.350
HP, 902374093, 500, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 734.400, -49.350
HP, 902374250, 157, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 122.250, -661.500 // 245 * (1 + 0.3 + 0.3 + 0.25 + 0.4) * 1.2 = 661.5
HP, 902374265, 15, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 536.550, -247.200 // 412 * 0.5 * 1.2 = 247.2
HP, 902374593, 328, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 742.800, -40.950
HP, 902375093, 500, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 734.400, -49.350 // singularity reprimes quick
HP, 902375593, 500, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 734.400, -49.350
HP, 902376093, 500, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 734.400, -49.350
HP, 902376593, 500, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 734.400, -49.350
HP, 902377093, 500, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 734.400, -49.350 // singu dot tick
HP, 902377890, 797, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 241.250, -542.500 // exploding singu 350 * (1 + 0.3 + 0.25) = 542.5 temp bonus expired

HP, 906708765, 437, 8A0A87E0, 783.750, 783.750, 122.250, -661.500

HP, 906708765, 0, 8A0A87E0, 783.750, 783.750, 536.550, -247.200

HP, 906708828, 63, 8A0A87E0, 783.750, 783.750, 734.400, -49.350

HP, 906709328, 500, 8A0A87E0, 783.750, 783.750, 734.400, -49.350

HP, 906710390, 1062, 8BFB94A0, 783.750, 783.750, 101.250, -682.500
// 350 * (1 + 0.3 + 0.25 + 0.4) =
682.5
HP, 906710406, 16, 8A0A87E0, 783.750, 783.750, 101.250, -682.500

Last Edit: May 21, 2017 7:00:15 GMT by peddroelm

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Post by Kenny Bania on May 21, 2017 6:30:44 GMT

May 21, 2017 6:06:35 GMT peddroelm said:

took a look at exploding singularity

Exploding singularity removes the (biotic priming) (expose debuff) before the explosion.
Power Damage applies, the 30% from adaptive war amp gear worked , the 40% from Offensive Biotics 6A biotic expert did NOT ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
(the 40% from Offensive Biotics 6A biotic expert worked for singularity DOT ticks and shockwave impact).

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human adept bronze
350 explo base
35/2 DPS singu base +0.4
0.2 debuff vs primed
245 base shock +0.3
pasive 25% PD 40% Biotic expert
gear 30% adaptive war amp

HP, 902339453, 902339453, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 122.250, -661.500 // shockwave 245 * (1 + 0.3 + 0.3 + 0.25 + 0.4) * 1.2 = 661.5
HP, 902339453, 0, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 536.550, -247.200 // 412 * 0.5 * 1.2 = 247.2 combo vs debuff
HP, 902339468, 15, 83128170, 783.750, 783.750, 577.750, -206.000 // 412 * 0.5 = 206 combo vs no debuff
HP, 902339656, 188, 83128170, 783.750, 783.750, 232.500, -551.250
HP, 902355250, 15594, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 122.250, -661.500 // shockwave
HP, 902355265, 15, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 536.550, -247.200 // combo
HP, 902371593, 16328, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 734.400, -49.350 // (35 / 2) * (1 + 0.4 + 0.3 + 0.25 + 0.4) * 1.2 = 49.35
HP, 902372093, 500, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 734.400, -49.350 // singu dot ticks
HP, 902372593, 500, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 734.400, -49.350
HP, 902373093, 500, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 734.400, -49.350
HP, 902373593, 500, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 734.400, -49.350
HP, 902374093, 500, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 734.400, -49.350
HP, 902374250, 157, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 122.250, -661.500 // 245 * (1 + 0.3 + 0.3 + 0.25 + 0.4) * 1.2 = 661.5
HP, 902374265, 15, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 536.550, -247.200 // 412 * 0.5 * 1.2 = 247.2
HP, 902374593, 328, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 742.800, -40.950
HP, 902375093, 500, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 734.400, -49.350 // singularity reprimes quick
HP, 902375593, 500, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 734.400, -49.350
HP, 902376093, 500, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 734.400, -49.350
HP, 902376593, 500, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 734.400, -49.350
HP, 902377093, 500, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 734.400, -49.350 // singu dot tick
HP, 902377890, 797, 8DF1DE90, 783.750, 783.750, 241.250, -542.500 // exploding singu 350 * (1 + 0.3 + 0.25) = 542.5

That's the behaviour I would've expected.

Edit - Unless you're saying you ended Singularity within 3s.

Last Edit: May 21, 2017 6:33:54 GMT by Kenny Bania

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Post by peddroelm on May 21, 2017 7:02:05 GMT

May 21, 2017 6:30:44 GMT Kenny Bania said:

May 21, 2017 6:06:35 GMT peddroelm said:

took a look at exploding singularity

SPOILER: Click to show

That's the behaviour I would've expected.

Edit - Unless you're saying you ended Singularity within 3s.

ups . Totally slipped my mind that bonus is temporary.. I blame it on the shitty UI that doesn't display timers for temporary bonuses ...
Works fine if detonated withing 3 seconds from shockwave cast ..

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Post by Kenny Bania on May 21, 2017 7:10:45 GMT

May 21, 2017 7:02:05 GMT peddroelm said:

May 21, 2017 6:30:44 GMT Kenny Bania said:

That's the behaviour I would've expected.

Edit - Unless you're saying you ended Singularity within 3s.

ups . Totally slipped my mind that bonus is temporary.. I blame it on the shitty UI that doesn't display timers for temporary bonuses ...
Works fine if detonated withing 3 seconds from shockwave cast ..

Sweet. Still don't think it's worth using Adaptive War Amp on her. Not the way I play anyway.

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Numerical Damage Tests May 21, 2017 17:52:57 GMT akots and unclemonster like this

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Post by lennybusker on May 21, 2017 17:52:57 GMT

Just checking some Singularity->Shockwave detonations, trying to understand how many targets Shockwave can truly detonate. The most I could get is 7, but I suspect based on throwing a 6B Shockwave at a single enemy that you could probably get 9, if you could prime that many enemies.

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Shockwave 6B thrown at one enemy

HP, 1400200187, 13229, 929572A0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1898.850, -1.150
HP, 1400200187, 0, 929572A0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1557.000, -343.000
HP, 1400200187, 0, 929572A0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1898.850, -1.150
HP, 1400200389, 202, 929572A0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1898.850, -1.150
HP, 1400200389, 0, 929572A0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1898.850, -1.150
HP, 1400200561, 172, 929572A0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1898.850, -1.150
HP, 1400200561, 0, 929572A0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1898.850, -1.150
HP, 1400200561, 0, 929572A0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1898.850, -1.150
HP, 1400200561, 0, 929572A0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1898.850, -1.150 //rank 6B ticks 9 times, at least.

I did like this log though, just shows a great 7-target combo cascade.

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Singularity -> Shockwave R1

HP, 1401072466, 249, 9BCE27B0, 2256.250, 2256.250, 1986.750, -269.500 combo 1
HP, 1401072466, 0, 9BCE27B0, 2256.250, 2256.250, 1860.750, -395.500
HP, 1401072482, 16, 96AF5420, 2256.250, 2256.250, 1860.750, -395.500
HP, 1401072482, 0, 9B43E200, 2256.250, 2256.250, 1860.750, -395.500
HP, 1401072482, 0, 97B3EED0, 2256.250, 2256.250, 1860.750, -395.500
HP, 1401072497, 15, 9265F990, 2256.250, 2256.250, 1860.750, -395.500
HP, 1401072497, 0, 89D346C0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1504.500, -395.500
HP, 1401072513, 16, 9262C4A0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1504.500, -395.500
HP, 1401072731, 31, 9B43E200, 2256.250, 2256.250, 1986.750, -269.500 combo 2
HP, 1401072731, 0, 9B43E200, 2256.250, 2256.250, 1860.750, -395.500
HP, 1401072763, 32, 96AF5420, 2256.250, 2256.250, 1860.750, -395.500
HP, 1401072763, 0, 97B3EED0, 2256.250, 2256.250, 1860.750, -395.500
HP, 1401072763, 0, 9265F990, 2256.250, 2256.250, 1860.750, -395.500
HP, 1401072778, 15, 89D346C0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1504.500, -395.500
HP, 1401072778, 0, 9262C4A0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1504.500, -395.500
HP, 1401072794, 16, 97B3EED0, 2256.250, 2256.250, 1986.750, -269.500 combo 3
HP, 1401072794, 0, 97B3EED0, 2256.250, 2256.250, 1860.750, -395.500
HP, 1401072809, 15, 96AF5420, 2256.250, 2256.250, 1860.750, -395.500
HP, 1401072809, 0, 9265F990, 2256.250, 2256.250, 1860.750, -395.500
HP, 1401072809, 0, 89D346C0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1504.500, -395.500
HP, 1401072825, 16, 9262C4A0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1504.500, -395.500
HP, 1401072825, 0, 89D346C0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1630.500, -269.500 combo 4
HP, 1401072841, 16, 89D346C0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1504.500, -395.500
HP, 1401072856, 15, 96AF5420, 2256.250, 2256.250, 1860.750, -395.500
HP, 1401072872, 16, 9265F990, 2256.250, 2256.250, 1860.750, -395.500
HP, 1401072872, 0, 9262C4A0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1504.500, -395.500
HP, 1401072887, 15, 9262C4A0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1630.500, -269.500 combo 5
HP, 1401072887, 0, 9262C4A0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1504.500, -395.500
HP, 1401072903, 16, 96AF5420, 2256.250, 2256.250, 1860.750, -395.500
HP, 1401072903, 0, 9265F990, 2256.250, 2256.250, 1860.750, -395.500
HP, 1401073075, 172, 96AF5420, 2256.250, 2256.250, 1986.750, -269.500 combo 6
HP, 1401073075, 0, 96AF5420, 2256.250, 2256.250, 1860.750, -395.500
HP, 1401073075, 0, 9265F990, 2256.250, 2256.250, 1860.750, -395.500
HP, 1401073090, 15, 9265F990, 2256.250, 2256.250, 1986.750, -269.500 combo 7
HP, 1401073106, 16, 9265F990, 2256.250, 2256.250, 1860.750, -395.500

Shockwave total damage = 1886.5. Combo total damage = 11257.75

One thing I'd like to try is to detonate a group with only the last tick of Shockwave. Will take some careful positioning, heh. But I'm pretty sure that each tick is a single detonator and it's only through multiple ticks that it multi-dets.

Last Edit: May 21, 2017 17:54:38 GMT by lennybusker

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Post by KLGChaos on May 22, 2017 11:01:37 GMT

It was suggested I ask this question here:

Has anyone done any testing with Lance with normal hits vs lance hits with combo detonations?

The reason I ask is because I read on a Reddit post that setting off a combo with Lance is considered "hitting a weak point", even if you don't actually strike a targets weak point.

Here's a link to the post. It's based on SP, but I'd assume the same mechanics apply to MP:

https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/64h75h/no_spoilers_guide_biotic_multiprofile_ryder_for/

And here's the quote in question:

Important note: the description of Lance states it does increased damage against weak areas. Apparently, triggering a combo with it considered "hitting a weak area".

I havent seen this posted anywhere else, so figured I'd ask.

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Post by peddroelm on May 22, 2017 11:18:07 GMT

I haven't done much combo testing personally but I guess I would've heard if it were the case. Combo damage formula DOES not care about a target's weakpoint modifiers.

Power Damage formula allows it for Lance, (and maybe other powers "-Overload can get weak point hits against Hydra targeting pod (1.15x) and tank (1.6x), consistent with base 1.4x weak point bonus. No other weak point bonus hits observed." couple of posts ahead) :
base * (1 + sum of power bonuses (includes in power damage bonuses evolutions, gear , consumables)) * IfLanceHitWeakspot(1.4 + 5a + TargetWeakpointMod) * (1 + sum of debuffs on target) * (1 + sum of vs defense bonuses)..

Last Edit: May 22, 2017 11:19:07 GMT by peddroelm

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Post by KLGChaos on May 22, 2017 12:25:11 GMT

May 22, 2017 11:18:07 GMT peddroelm said:

I haven't done much combo testing personally but I guess I would've heard if it were the case. Combo damage formula DOES not care about a target's weakpoint modifiers.

Power Damage formula allows it for Lance, (and maybe other powers "-Overload can get weak point hits against Hydra targeting pod (1.15x) and tank (1.6x), consistent with base 1.4x weak point bonus. No other weak point bonus hits observed." couple of posts ahead) :
base * (1 + sum of power bonuses (includes in power damage bonuses evolutions, gear , consumables)) * IfLanceHitWeakspot(1.4 + 5a + TargetWeakpointMod) * (1 + sum of debuffs on target) * (1 + sum of vs defense bonuses)..

I'll do some testing of Lance with 5A and without to confirm... I thought it was weird I couldn't find any info on it other than that post.

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Numerical Damage Tests May 22, 2017 12:39:11 GMT

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Post by JRandall0308 on May 22, 2017 12:39:11 GMT

This is a weirdly specific question and if it's not possible to test, I understand.

How is the visual (+ gameplay?) arc on Overload determined? When tapped vs. held? With the chain evolutions vs. without them?

The reason I ask is that sometimes Overload seems to be fairly straight and hits where I am aiming. But other times it noticeably arcs upwards and hits the ceiling or other intervening objects. I wonder if there is a geometric formula in the game that determines the arc?

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Post by KLGChaos on May 22, 2017 15:00:02 GMT

So, did some testing.

Went into Silver vs Kett with the Kinetcist and only Barrier maxed for some survivability. Kept Pull, Throw and BA at one. Played once with Lance (with radius instead of extra damage to avoid killing mobs in one combo) and tested Anti-Shield vs Focused Blast.

Lance did the same damage to a pulled Chosen target (about 3/4ths of their health) no matter which upgrade I chose.

So detonating a target with Lance doesn't count as striking a weak point. You actually have to HIT the weak point to deal extra damage. Not sure what that one guy was talking about in his post.

Last Edit: May 22, 2017 15:57:55 GMT by KLGChaos

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Post by lennybusker on May 22, 2017 15:38:30 GMT

May 22, 2017 15:00:02 GMT KLGChaos said:

So, did some testing.

Went into Silver vs Left with the Kinetcist and only Barrier maxed for some survivability. Kept Pull, Throw and BA at one. Played once with Lance (with radius instead of extra damage to avoid killing mobs in one combo) and tested Anti-Shield vs Focused Blast.

Lance did the same damage to a pulled Chosen target (about 3/4ths of their health) no matter which upgrade I chose.

So detonating a target with Lance doesn't count as striking a weak point. You actually have to HIT the weak point to deal extra damage. Not sure what that one guy was talking about in his post.

You're correct, Lance only counts as a weak point if it hits a weak point.

HP, 1493924031, 549.676, 98B09360, 825.000, 825.000, 409.000, -416.000, Lance

HP, 1493923861, 378.927, A2A89690, 825.000, 825.000, 735.000, -90.000, Throw
HP, 1493923861, 379.195, A2A89690, 825.000, 825.000, 285.000, -540.000 Impact
HP, 1493923861, 379.394, A2A89690, 825.000, 825.000, 495.000, -330.000, Combo (Exposure = 1.2)
HP, 1493923861, 379.398, A2A89690, 825.000, 825.000, 325.800, -499.200, Lance (Exposure = 1.2)

and even if you do hit a weak point, it's the same combo damage.

HP, 404940827, 3541, 8C4BBB50, 825.000, 825.000, 797.500, -27.500 Annihilation
HP, 404941248, 421, 8C4BBB50, 825.000, 825.000, 475.000, -350.000 Combo
HP, 404941264, 16, 8C4BBB50, 825.000, 825.000, 525.000, -300.000 cryo barrel nearby
HP, 404941264, 0, 8C4BBB50, 825.000, 825.000, 377.000, -448.000 lance HS

(combo values are from 1.05)

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Is there a program you guys use to look that up or do you have to go into one of the files?

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Some Updates to Tactical Cloak Base Bonus Duration

Incinerate
-Incinerate will now only receive bonus from base cloak for 0.5s after it breaks stealth, unlike in original test.
-It is possible to completely miss the cloak damage window depending on target range and time of flight.
-With Combat Cloak, bonus ends at 2 seconds (similar to before).

Sticky Grenades
-Still does not receive bonus from base Tactical Cloak or Stealth Grid, even if explosion is in the middle of damage window.
-Receives bonus if Combat Cloak is evolved, as long as explosion is in 2s window.
-Fuse time is 1.5s (time between impact and explosion).

Retested this due to question on reddit regarding Stickies.

***

SPOILER: Click to show

Human Infiltrator
Sticky 1
Cloak 1
Incinerate 1

Cloak, Incinerate - Nullifier At Point Blank Range (Gold)

Type, tickCount, tickDiff, Address, Max, Before, After, Diff
HP, 335306453, 58610, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 6760.000, -840.000 <-impact breaks stealth, gets bonus
HP, 335306953, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7546.000, -54.000 <-DOT tick 1 gets bonus
HP, 335307453, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000 <-DOT tick 2 does not get bonus
HP, 335307953, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 335308453, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 335308953, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 335309453, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 335309953, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 335310453, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 335310953, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 335311453, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 335311953, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 335312453, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000

HP, 335377875, 65422, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 6760.000, -840.000
HP, 335378375, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7546.000, -54.000
HP, 335378875, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 335379375, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 335379875, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 335380375, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 335380875, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 335381375, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 335381875, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 335382375, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 335382875, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 335383375, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 335383875, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000

350*(1+0.5)*(1+0.6)=840

45*(1+0.5)*(1+0.6)/2=54

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Cloak, Incinerate - Nullifier at Moderate Range (Gold)

HP, 335241843, 384718, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7462.000, 6902.000, -560.000 <-impact misses damage window
HP, 335242343, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 335242843, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 335243343, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 335243843, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 335244343, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 335244843, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 335245343, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 335245843, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 335246343, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 335246843, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 335247343, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 335247843, 500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000

350*(1+0.6)=560

-Incinerate bonus only for 500ms after breaking cloak. Possible to miss window with flight time. This new behavior relative to original cloak test.

--

Cloak, Incinerate - Assembler at Long Range (Bronze)

HP, 341697515, 5172, 9C7D4490, 825.000, 825.000, 475.000, -350.000 <-missed window
HP, 341698015, 500, 9C7D4490, 825.000, 825.000, 802.500, -22.500
HP, 341698515, 500, 9C7D4490, 825.000, 825.000, 802.500, -22.500
HP, 341699015, 500, 9C7D4490, 825.000, 825.000, 802.500, -22.500
HP, 341699515, 500, 9C7D4490, 825.000, 825.000, 802.500, -22.500
HP, 341700015, 500, 9C7D4490, 825.000, 825.000, 802.500, -22.500
HP, 341700515, 500, 9C7D4490, 825.000, 825.000, 802.500, -22.500
HP, 341701015, 500, 9C7D4490, 825.000, 825.000, 802.500, -22.500
HP, 341701515, 500, 9C7D4490, 825.000, 825.000, 802.500, -22.500
HP, 341702015, 500, 9C7D4490, 825.000, 825.000, 802.500, -22.500
HP, 341702515, 500, 9C7D4490, 825.000, 825.000, 802.500, -22.500
HP, 341703015, 500, 9C7D4490, 825.000, 825.000, 802.500, -22.500
HP, 341703515, 500, 9C7D4490, 825.000, 825.000, 802.500, -22.500

Cloak, Incinerate - Assembler at Medium Range (Bronze)

HP, 341728687, 25172, 967614A0, 825.000, 825.000, 300.000, -525.000 <-bonus
HP, 341729187, 500, 967614A0, 825.000, 825.000, 802.500, -22.500 <-no bonus
HP, 341729687, 500, 967614A0, 825.000, 825.000, 802.500, -22.500
HP, 341730187, 500, 967614A0, 825.000, 825.000, 802.500, -22.500
HP, 341730687, 500, 967614A0, 825.000, 825.000, 802.500, -22.500
HP, 341731187, 500, 967614A0, 825.000, 825.000, 802.500, -22.500
HP, 341731687, 500, 967614A0, 825.000, 825.000, 802.500, -22.500
HP, 341732187, 500, 967614A0, 825.000, 825.000, 802.500, -22.500
HP, 341732687, 141, 967614A0, 825.000, 825.000, 802.500, -22.500
HP, 341733187, 109, 967614A0, 825.000, 825.000, 802.500, -22.500
HP, 341733687, 203, 967614A0, 825.000, 825.000, 802.500, -22.500
HP, 341734187, 500, 967614A0, 825.000, 825.000, 802.500, -22.500
HP, 341734687, 500, 967614A0, 825.000, 825.000, 802.500, -22.500

350*(1+0.5) = 525

45/2 = 22.5

-Bronze difficulty makes no difference.

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Cloak, Sticky

HP, 335431921, 48046, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7575.000, -25.000
HP, 335433421, 1500, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 6500.000, -1100.000

Cloak, Sticky, Shoot

HP, 335500953, 67532, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7575.000, -25.000
HP, 335501812, 859,     913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7521.000, -79.000
HP, 335501921, 109,     913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7506.150, -93.850
HP, 335502015, 94,       913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7521.000, -79.000
HP, 335502109, 94,       913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7521.000, -79.000
HP, 335502218, 109,     913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7521.000, -79.000
HP, 335502312, 94,       913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7521.000, -79.000
HP, 335502421, 109,     913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 335502453, 32,      913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 6500.000, -1100.000
HP, 335502515, 62,      913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 335502609, 94,      913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 335502718, 109,    913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000

HP, 335531750, 29032, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7575.000, -25.000 <-sticky impact
HP, 335533078, 1328, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7521.000, -79.000 <-bonus starts
HP, 335533187, 109, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7521.000, -79.000
HP, 335533250, 63, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 6500.000, -1100.000 <-172ms
HP, 335533281, 31, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7521.000, -79.000
HP, 335533390, 109, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7521.000, -79.000
HP, 335533484, 94, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7521.000, -79.000
HP, 335533578, 94, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7521.000, -79.000 <-bonus ends
HP, 335533687, 109, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000

66*(1+0.5)-20 = 79

66*(1+0.5)*1.15-20 = 93.85

66-20 = 46

-Even when Sticky explosion sandwiched between shots receiving bonus from cloak, it does not get bonus.

Cloak, Shoot

HP, 335568750, 35063, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7521.000, -79.000
HP, 335568843, 93, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7521.000, -79.000
HP, 335568953, 110, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7521.000, -79.000
HP, 335569046, 93, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7521.000, -79.000
HP, 335569156, 110, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7521.000, -79.000
HP, 335569250, 94, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7521.000, -79.000
HP, 335569343, 93, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 335569453, 110, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 335569546, 93, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 335569656, 110, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 335569750, 94, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 335569843, 93, 913F6500, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000

***

HI

Sticky 1 - 1100 dmg
Cloak 6 - Dmg, Spd, Combat
   1 - 50% wpn, 50% pwr, 60% melee dmg
   4 - 40% wpn, 50% pwr, 50% melee dmg
Inc 1 - 350 dmg, 45/s x 6s, +60% armor

Equalizer VIII

Cloak, Sticky, Shoot - Nullifier (Gold)

HP, 334306328, 212891, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7575.000, -25.000
HP, 334307093, 765, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400
HP, 334307203, 110, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400
HP, 334307468, 265, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400
HP, 334307703, 235, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400
HP, 334307828, 125, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 5400.000, -2200.000
HP, 334307937, 109, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400
HP, 334308093, 156, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400

HP, 334730765, 68734, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7575.000, -25.000
HP, 334732125, 1360, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400
HP, 334732234, 109, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7475.790, -124.210
HP, 334732265, 31, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 5400.000, -2200.000
HP, 334732328, 63, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7475.790, -124.210
HP, 334732437, 109, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400
HP, 334732531, 94, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400

1100*(1+0.5+0.5) = 2200

66*(1+0.5+0.4)-20 = 105.4

66*(1+0.5+0.4)*1.15-20 = 124.21

Cloak, Sticky

HP, 334660531, 54235, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7575.000, -25.000
HP, 334662031, 1500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 6500.000, -1100.000

-Sticky does not receive bonus unless cloak broken by a different attack.

Cloak, Shoot, Incinerate, Shoot

HP, 334422937, 13703, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400 <-Equalizer, bonus
HP, 334423125, 188, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400
HP, 334423234, 109, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400
HP, 334423328, 94, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400
HP, 334423437, 109, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400
HP, 334423531, 94, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400
HP, 334423625, 94, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400
HP, 334423734, 109, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400
HP, 334424156, 422, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 6480.000, -1120.000 <-incinerate impact, bonus
HP, 334424296, 140, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400
HP, 334424390, 94, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400
HP, 334424500, 110, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400
HP, 334424593, 93, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400
HP, 334424656, 63, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7528.000, -72.000 <- incinerate DOT tick 1, bonus
HP, 334424703, 47, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400
HP, 334424796, 93, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400
HP, 334424890, 94, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400 <- bonus ends
HP, 334425000, 110, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334425093, 93, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334425156, 63, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000 <- incinerate DOT tick 2, no bonus
HP, 334425203, 47, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334425296, 93, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334425390, 94, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334425500, 110, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334425593, 93, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334425656, 63, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334425703, 47, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334425796, 93, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334425890, 94, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334426000, 110, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334426156, 156, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334426203, 47, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334426296, 93, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334426390, 94, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334426656, 266, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334427156, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334427656, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334428156, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334428656, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334429156, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334429656, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334430156, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000

HP, 334521234, 91078, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400 <-Equalizer, bonus
HP, 334521328, 94, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400
HP, 334521437, 109, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400
HP, 334521703, 266, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 6480.000, -1120.000 <- incinerate impact, bonus
HP, 334522000, 297, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7475.790, -124.210
HP, 334522093, 93, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7475.790, -124.210
HP, 334522203, 110, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7528.000, -72.000 <- incinerate DOT tick 1, bonus
HP, 334522203, 0, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7475.790, -124.210
HP, 334522296, 93, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7475.790, -124.210
HP, 334522390, 94, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7475.790, -124.210
HP, 334522500, 110, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7475.790, -124.210
HP, 334522593, 93, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7475.790, -124.210
HP, 334522703, 110, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7528.000, -72.000 <-incinerate DOT tick 2, bonus
HP, 334522703, 0, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7475.790, -124.210
HP, 334522796, 93, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400
HP, 334523203, 407, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7528.000, -72.000 <- incinerate DOT tick 3, bonus
HP, 334523218, 15, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400 <- bonus ends
HP, 334523296, 78, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334523390, 94, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334523500, 110, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334523593, 93, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334523703, 110, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000 <- incinerate DOT tick 4, no bonus
HP, 334523703, 0, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334523796, 93, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334523890, 94, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334524000, 110, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334524093, 93, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334524203, 110, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334524203, 0, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334524296, 93, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334524500, 204, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334524593, 93, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334524703, 110, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334524703, 0, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334524796, 93, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334524890, 94, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334525000, 110, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334525093, 93, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334525203, 110, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334525203, 0, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334525296, 93, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334525500, 204, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334525593, 93, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334525703, 110, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334525796, 93, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334525890, 94, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334526000, 110, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334526093, 93, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334526203, 110, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334526203, 0, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334526390, 187, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334526500, 110, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334526593, 93, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334526703, 110, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334526718, 15, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334526796, 78, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334526890, 94, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334527000, 110, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334527093, 93, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334527203, 110, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334527703, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000

HP, 334599890, 22390, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400 <- Equalizer, bonus
HP, 334600296, 406, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 6480.000, -1120.000 <- incinerate impact, bonus
HP, 334600796, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7528.000, -72.000 <- incinerate DOT tick 1, bonus
HP, 334600859, 63, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400
HP, 334600968, 109, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400
HP, 334601062, 94, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7475.790, -124.210
HP, 334601171, 109, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400
HP, 334601296, 125, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7528.000, -72.000 <- incinerate DOT tick 2, bonus
HP, 334601359, 63, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400
HP, 334601468, 109, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400
HP, 334601562, 94, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400
HP, 334601656, 94, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400
HP, 334601765, 109, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400
HP, 334601796, 31, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7528.000, -72.000 <- incinerate DOT tick 3, bonus
HP, 334602062, 266, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000 <- bonus ends
HP, 334602265, 203, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334602296, 31, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334602359, 63, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7554.000, -46.000
HP, 334602796, 437, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334603296, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334603796, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334604296, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334604796, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334605296, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334605796, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334606296, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000

HP, 334850031, 72172, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400 <- Equalizer, bonus
HP, 334850125, 94, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7494.600, -105.400
HP, 334851125, 1000, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 6480.000, -1120.000 <- incinerate impact, bonus
HP, 334851625, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7528.000, -72.000 <- incinerate DOT tick 1, bonus
HP, 334852125, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000 <- incinerate DOT tick 2, no bonus
HP, 334852625, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334853125, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334853625, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334854125, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334854625, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334855125, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334855625, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334856125, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334856625, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334857125, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000

Cloak, Incinerate

HP, 334771859, 39328, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 6480.000, -1120.000
HP, 334772359, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7528.000, -72.000
HP, 334772859, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7528.000, -72.000
HP, 334773359, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000 <- bonus ends
HP, 334773859, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334774359, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334774859, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334775359, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334775859, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334776359, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334776859, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334777359, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000
HP, 334777859, 500, 90B86730, 7600.000, 7600.000, 7564.000, -36.000

-Incinerate will receive bonus during 2s Combat Cloak bonus window.
-Travel time reduces DOT ticks that receive bonus.

****

Angara Avenger

Sticky 1 - 1100
Stealth Grid 1 - 30% wpn, 30% pwr, 30% melee
Avenger Strike 1 - 500dmg

Stealth Grid, Avenger Strike - Assembler (Bronze)

HP, 342158484, 9359, 8E6C9C10, 825.000, 825.000, 325.000, -500.000
HP, 342188921, 30437, 8E6C9C10, 825.000, 825.000, 250.000, -575.000
HP, 342203156, 14235, 8E6C9C10, 825.000, 825.000, 325.000, -500.000
HP, 342221750, 18594, 8E6C9C10, 825.000, 825.000, 325.000, -500.000
HP, 342240562, 18812, 8E6C9C10, 825.000, 825.000, 325.000, -500.000
HP, 342259796, 19234, 8E6C9C10, 825.000, 825.000, 325.000, -500.000

-No bonus from Stealth Grid.

Stealth Grid, Sticky, Fire - Nullifier (Bronze)

HP, 342613625, 20141, 8F4389A0, 2640.000, 2640.000, 2611.250, -28.750 <- impact weak point 25*1.15
HP, 342614593, 968, 8F4389A0, 2640.000, 2640.000, 2564.200, -75.800
HP, 342614687, 94, 8F4389A0, 2640.000, 2640.000, 2564.200, -75.800
HP, 342614796, 109, 8F4389A0, 2640.000, 2640.000, 2551.330, -88.670
HP, 342614890, 94, 8F4389A0, 2640.000, 2640.000, 2564.200, -75.800
HP, 342615093, 203, 8F4389A0, 2640.000, 2640.000, 2551.330, -88.670
HP, 342615125, 32, 8F4389A0, 2640.000, 2640.000, 1540.000, -1100.000
HP, 342615187, 62, 8F4389A0, 2640.000, 2640.000, 2584.000, -56.000
HP, 342615296, 109, 8F4389A0, 2640.000, 2640.000, 2584.000, -56.000
HP, 342615390, 94, 8F4389A0, 2640.000, 2640.000, 2584.000, -56.000
HP, 342615484, 94, 8F4389A0, 2640.000, 2640.000, 2584.000, -56.000

HP, 342646828, 31344, 8F4389A0, 2640.000, 2640.000, 2615.000, -25.000
HP, 342648031, 1203, 8F4389A0, 2640.000, 2640.000, 2564.200, -75.800
HP, 342648125, 94, 8F4389A0, 2640.000, 2640.000, 2564.200, -75.800
HP, 342648218, 93, 8F4389A0, 2640.000, 2640.000, 2564.200, -75.800
HP, 342648328, 110, 8F4389A0, 2640.000, 2640.000, 1540.000, -1100.000
HP, 342648328, 0, 8F4389A0, 2640.000, 2640.000, 2564.200, -75.800
HP, 342648421, 93, 8F4389A0, 2640.000, 2640.000, 2564.200, -75.800
HP, 342648531, 110, 8F4389A0, 2640.000, 2640.000, 2564.200, -75.800 <-bonus ends
HP, 342648625, 94, 8F4389A0, 2640.000, 2640.000, 2584.000, -56.000
HP, 342648718, 93, 8F4389A0, 2640.000, 2640.000, 2584.000, -56.000

66*(1+0.3)-10 = 75.8
66*(1+0.3)*1.15 -10 = 88.67

-Stickies cannot get Stealth Grid bonus.

Last Edit: May 23, 2017 1:24:04 GMT by capn233

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Post by SentinelBorg on May 23, 2017 9:44:13 GMT

Can Energy Drain 5B "Auxiliary Drain" detonate multiple targets?

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May 23, 2017 9:44:13 GMT SentinelBorg said:

Can Energy Drain 5B "Auxiliary Drain" detonate multiple targets?

Nope.

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HP 1569416827 45880.000 91FE76D0 1900.00 1900.00 1220.00 -680.000 //Fire Barrel on Adhi 1
HP 1569416827 0.000 9B429470 1900.00 1900.00 1220.00 -680.000 //Fire Barrel on Adhi 2
HP 1569417326 499.000 91FE76D0 1900.00 1900.00 1892.50 -7.500 //Fire Barrel DOT
HP 1569417326 0.000 9B429470 1900.00 1900.00 1892.50 -7.500
HP 1569417825 499.000 91FE76D0 1900.00 1900.00 1892.50 -7.500
HP 1569417825 0.000 9B429470 1900.00 1900.00 1892.50 -7.500
HP 1569418324 499.000 91FE76D0 1900.00 1900.00 1892.50 -7.500
HP 1569418324 0.000 9B429470 1900.00 1900.00 1892.50 -7.500
HP 1569418589 265.000 8F14CF40 2256.25 2256.25 1985.00 -271.250 //Energy Drain on nearby Raider 1
HP 1569418605 16.000 95EC0E60 2256.25 2256.25 1985.00 -271.250 //Energy Drain on nearby Raider 2
HP 1569418605 0.000 91FE76D0 1900.00 1900.00 1628.75 -271.250 //Energy Drain on Adhi 1
HP 1569418823 218.000 91FE76D0 1900.00 1900.00 1892.50 -7.500
HP 1569418823 0.000 9B429470 1900.00 1900.00 1892.50 -7.500
HP 1569419089 266.000 9B429470 1900.00 1900.00 1628.75 -271.250 //Energy Drain on Adhi 2
HP 1569419089 0.000 9B429470 1900.00 1900.00 1220.00 -680.000 //Fire Combo 1
HP 1569419151 62.000 91FE76D0 1900.00 1900.00 1220.00 -680.000 //Fire Combo 1 AOE
HP 1569419323 172.000 91FE76D0 1900.00 1900.00 1892.50 -7.500
HP 1569419557 234.000 9B429470 1900.00 1900.00 1875.50 -24.500 //Fire Combo DOT
HP 1569419588 31.000 91FE76D0 1900.00 1900.00 1875.50 -24.500

Last Edit: May 23, 2017 11:28:00 GMT by lennybusker

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