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Post by lennybusker on Jul 14, 2017 2:38:55 GMT
Just demonstrating the power of a weapons focused build:
HP, 528227544, 6989, E9B698F0, 0.000, 20250.000, 197.041, -20052.959 Kishock X charged Headshot vs Beserker Platinum
HP, 528228043, 499, E9B698F0, 0.000, 197.041, 0.000, -197.041 Kishock bleedout
SH, 528184285, 14493, 962C5750, 3375.000, 3375.000, 0.000, -3375.000 Kishock X crit vs Observer
SG, 528184285, 0, 962C5750, 0.100, 2835.000, -11286.508, -14121.508 Shield Gate
HP, 528184285, 0, 962C5750, 2025.000, 2025.000, 0.000, -2025.000 HP followthrough
Weapon Damage Bonuses:
Munitions Training 18%
Tactical Cloak 90%
SR Rail Amp 40%
Crit Bonuses:
Kishock inherent 70%
Munitions Training 6B 20%
Vulnerability VI 40%
Targeting VI Amp 60%
Have fun trying to one-shot a Berserker every couple seconds with powers.
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Post by konfeta on Jul 14, 2017 3:56:53 GMT
Speaking of the Kishock. So it's basically a better Lanat?
About ~2000 base damage at X, 3000 at full charge, but .7 modifier for impact brings it down to 2100 for crit purposes. Lanat is ~900 base damage, charge up to to ~1800.
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Post by killabkilledb on Jul 14, 2017 5:43:38 GMT
Just demonstrating the power of a weapons focused build: HP, 528227544, 6989, E9B698F0, 0.000, 20250.000, 197.041, -20052.959 Kishock X charged Headshot vs Beserker Platinum HP, 528228043, 499, E9B698F0, 0.000, 197.041, 0.000, -197.041 Kishock bleedout SH, 528184285, 14493, 962C5750, 3375.000, 3375.000, 0.000, -3375.000 Kishock X crit vs Observer SG, 528184285, 0, 962C5750, 0.100, 2835.000, -11286.508, -14121.508 Shield Gate HP, 528184285, 0, 962C5750, 2025.000, 2025.000, 0.000, -2025.000 HP followthrough Weapon Damage Bonuses: Munitions Training 18% Tactical Cloak 90% SR Rail Amp 40% Crit Bonuses: Kishock inherent 70% Munitions Training 6B 20% Vulnerability VI 40% Targeting VI Amp 60% Have fun trying to one-shot a Berserker every couple seconds with powers. So a cloaked, charged shot will actually OHK a berserker on platinum,? I figured it had to be close (with the new hear, sniper amp and targeting)...By powers you mean tac cloak? |
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Post by lennybusker on Jul 14, 2017 5:55:22 GMT
Just demonstrating the power of a weapons focused build: HP, 528227544, 6989, E9B698F0, 0.000, 20250.000, 197.041, -20052.959 Kishock X charged Headshot vs Beserker Platinum HP, 528228043, 499, E9B698F0, 0.000, 197.041, 0.000, -197.041 Kishock bleedout SH, 528184285, 14493, 962C5750, 3375.000, 3375.000, 0.000, -3375.000 Kishock X crit vs Observer SG, 528184285, 0, 962C5750, 0.100, 2835.000, -11286.508, -14121.508 Shield Gate HP, 528184285, 0, 962C5750, 2025.000, 2025.000, 0.000, -2025.000 HP followthrough Weapon Damage Bonuses: Munitions Training 18% Tactical Cloak 90% SR Rail Amp 40% Crit Bonuses: Kishock inherent 70% Munitions Training 6B 20% Vulnerability VI 40% Targeting VI Amp 60% Have fun trying to one-shot a Berserker every couple seconds with powers. So a cloaked, charged shot will actually OHK a berserker on platinum,? I figured it had to be close (with the new hear, sniper amp and targeting)...By powers you mean tac cloak? Non-boss Beserker, yeah. Not quite OHKO from the impact but just one tick of bleed damage does it. However that's with SR rail amp as well so no power efficiency mod, which means not a viable setup for regular Infiltrators solo, though with a strong team you could probably be ok without the recharge. Also I guess it'll take longer than a couple seconds to recharge, but still. I just like making the point to people that this and that power damage bonus (like from Veteran Ranks) is almost insignificant compared to strong weapon, particularly Sniper, setups. I'm not even sure what the strongest single shot damage power would be that's not a grenade. Nova gets pretty beefy, but you're still talking like what, 3-4000 at most? |
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Post by konfeta on Jul 14, 2017 6:25:06 GMT
Singularity Detonation should be the highest damage biotic power. Nova is only 420 base damage, Singularity is 700.
Incinerate is probably the contender for hardest hitting single shot power (I assume you count flak as a grenade, and flame thrower as not single shot). If you shotgun the double incinerate into armor using the Salsa Achitect, that will do...
350 * (1 + .35 + .6 + .5 + .4 + .3) * (1 + .6 + .4) * 1.35 * 2 = 5953 instant damage.
.35 = Incinerate 3
.6 = Incinerate 5A
.5 = Offensive tech total
.4 = veterancy
.3 = tech equipment
.6 = base incinerate armor bonus
.4 = offensive tech armor bonus
1.35 = elemental tech debuff
2 = two incinerates can hit same target.
The DoT will then do...
45 * (1 + .35 + .5 + .5 + .4 + .3) * (1 + .6 + .4) * 1.35 * 12 = 4469 damage over 12 seconds.
Switching Incinerate from 5A to 5B will drag that number up slightly higher on impact against armor and significantly higher with DoT against armor. Boosters help out a bit more as well. I don't think it will reach 20k to one shot Berzerkers, though.
350 * (1 + .35 + .5 + .4 + .3) * (1 + .65 + .6 + .4) * 1.35 * 2 = 6385 impact
45 * (1 + .35 + .5 + .5 + .4 + .3) * (1 + .65 + .6 + .4) * 1.35 * 12 = 5892 DoT
Yeah nope.
TLDR buff wizards.
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Post by lennybusker on Jul 14, 2017 9:39:53 GMT
Tactical Cloak 6A - Escape Artist
HP, 553290056, 553290056, 974891C0, 783.750, 783.750, 23.750, -760.000 Uncloaked melee
HP, 553298823, 8767, 974FD5A0, 783.750, 783.750, 0.000, -783.750 actively Cloaked melee
HP, 553318526, 1732, 719A20E0, 0.000, 366.750, 0.000, -366.750 melee kill to proc EA
HP, 553321303, 2777, 8EBB8120, 783.750, 783.750, 23.750, -760.000 EA cloaked melee
HP, 553479441, 62, 93DB1F70, 783.750, 231.750, 127.500, -104.250 Hurricane shot
HP, 553487974, 8330, 8FB5AA30, 783.750, 783.750, 612.000, -171.750 active cloak hurricane
HP, 553493185, 5133, 8FB5AA30, 783.750, 440.250, 0.000, -440.250 melee kill
HP, 553497771, 4586, 8EC09EC0, 783.750, 783.750, 679.500, -104.250 EA cloaked hurricane
HP, 553769603, 31138, 8EBC91C0, 783.750, 783.750, 223.750, -560.000 uncloaked Incinerate impact
HP, 553782863, 9766, 99CE6710, 783.750, 783.750, 0.000, -783.750 active cloaked incinerate impact
HP, 553828805, 7768, 71750340, 0.000, 366.750, 0.000, -366.750 melee kill
HP, 553830865, 2060, 70AD0010, 0.000, 783.750, 223.750, -560.000 EA cloaked incinerate impact
No damage bonus to weapons, melee, or powers from Escape Artist "re-cloak"
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jul 14, 2017 12:32:09 GMT
Incinerate is probably the contender for hardest hitting single shot power [...] I don't think it will reach 20k to one shot Berzerkers, though. [snip math] Yeah nope. TLDR buff wizards.It only works if you make it a hashtag (#BuffWizards) and spam it in every Tweet that anyone at Bioware makes. But seriously, for a game about Space Magic (tm), we sure do have wimpy powers. |
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Post by killabkilledb on Jul 14, 2017 15:03:40 GMT
So a cloaked, charged shot will actually OHK a berserker on platinum,? I figured it had to be close (with the new hear, sniper amp and targeting)...By powers you mean tac cloak? Non-boss Beserker, yeah. Not quite OHKO from the impact but just one tick of bleed damage does it. However that's with SR rail amp as well so no power efficiency mod, which means not a viable setup for regular Infiltrators solo, though with a strong team you could probably be ok without the recharge. Also I guess it'll take longer than a couple seconds to recharge, but still. I just like making the point to people that this and that power damage bonus (like from Veteran Ranks) is almost insignificant compared to strong weapon, particularly Sniper, setups. I'm not even sure what the strongest single shot damage power would be that's not a grenade. Nova gets pretty beefy, but you're still talking like what, 3-4000 at most? Lance headshot? Not sure if the Vi gear would apply to it though. |
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Post by rtrnofdmax on Jul 14, 2017 17:28:00 GMT
Tactical Cloak 6A - Escape Artist No damage bonus to weapons, melee, or powers from Escape Artist "re-cloak"Boo. This power evolution has such potential. |
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Post by crashsuit on Jul 14, 2017 20:36:41 GMT
Incinerate is probably the contender for hardest hitting single shot power [...] I don't think it will reach 20k to one shot Berzerkers, though. [snip math] Yeah nope. TLDR buff wizards.It only works if you make it a hashtag (#BuffWizards) and spam it in every Tweet that anyone at Bioware makes. But seriously, for a game about Space Magic (tm), we sure do have wimpy powers. Yeah, uh... you may want to pick a different hashtag there. |
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Post by lennybusker on Jul 14, 2017 20:54:32 GMT
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jul 14, 2017 21:08:29 GMT
That's both a #BuffWizard and a #WizardInTheBuff. Those two groups are always fighting. It's gotten really bad, the National Guard had to be called out a few times.
OK I'll stop derailing the testing thread now.
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Post by Pearl on Jul 14, 2017 21:58:05 GMT
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Post by killabkilledb on Jul 14, 2017 23:09:19 GMT
Just demonstrating the power of a weapons focused build: HP, 528227544, 6989, E9B698F0, 0.000, 20250.000, 197.041, -20052.959 Kishock X charged Headshot vs Beserker Platinum HP, 528228043, 499, E9B698F0, 0.000, 197.041, 0.000, -197.041 Kishock bleedout SH, 528184285, 14493, 962C5750, 3375.000, 3375.000, 0.000, -3375.000 Kishock X crit vs Observer SG, 528184285, 0, 962C5750, 0.100, 2835.000, -11286.508, -14121.508 Shield Gate HP, 528184285, 0, 962C5750, 2025.000, 2025.000, 0.000, -2025.000 HP followthrough Weapon Damage Bonuses: Munitions Training 18% Tactical Cloak 90% SR Rail Amp 40% Crit Bonuses: Kishock inherent 70% Munitions Training 6B 20% Vulnerability VI 40% Targeting VI Amp 60% Have fun trying to one-shot a Berserker every couple seconds with powers. Its just so beautiful... I take it the kishock needs to be at X or near it as its the bleed out is killing it? |
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Post by rtrnofdmax on Jul 14, 2017 23:12:36 GMT
Ya he shows it doing 20,053 damage and bleeding the remaining 197 to kill it.
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Post by killabkilledb on Jul 14, 2017 23:29:12 GMT
Ya he shows it doing 20,053 damage and bleeding the remaining 197 to kill it. Just went to the handbook and Holy shit, progenitor has 200K shields. |
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Post by rtrnofdmax on Jul 15, 2017 0:13:01 GMT
Ya he shows it doing 20,053 damage and bleeding the remaining 197 to kill it. Just went to the handbook and Holy shit, progenitor has 200K shields. Don't forget that they lose 40% main shields when you destroy each of the turrets. Also, the crit bonus is x8 when hitting an exposed core, as opposed to most enemies having a 1-1.6 bonus for weak shot hits. The only subtlety there is that 8 is the max total, so other bonuses like Vulnerability VI don't boost it higher than that. With that said, you're still probably a bit short of OHK on the turrets, and still a bit short on an exposed core even with only 20% shields and an exposed core. Close though. |
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Post by konfeta on Jul 15, 2017 0:50:30 GMT
The cool thing about the destroyer/ascendant orb weakspots, by the way, is that they buff siphon healing significantly. They proper medkits every once in a while.
% based lifesteal FTW
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Post by ramsen on Jul 15, 2017 9:47:40 GMT
Doesn't seem like the shield recharge delay reduction on Stronghold package works at all.
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Post by f3rociouspanda on Jul 15, 2017 19:17:18 GMT
Is there a weapon dps chart for 1.09?
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Post by killabkilledb on Jul 17, 2017 4:10:08 GMT
Anyone know if rockets benefit from debuffs? Kind of thinking they do but I'm not sure. Ill try testing it tomorrow if I don't get an answer.
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Post by N7Mith on Jul 17, 2017 19:51:44 GMT
They should. So they probably don't.
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Post by killabkilledb on Jul 17, 2017 22:48:49 GMT
They should. So they probably don't. Anecdotally I think they do from playing with so many scrappers.... |
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Post by capn233 on Jul 17, 2017 23:35:42 GMT
Enemy Damage 1.09 - PlatinumI have updated the enemy damage sheets for Platinum, and the three special units that were not on there. I don't think their were any changes to the lower difficulties, I just spot checked since there was no mention of changes to them. Difficulty ScalingBronze - 1x
Silver - 1.65x
Gold - 2.45x
Platinum - 3.675xSome other thoughts: -The typical "elite" version of various units does the same damage as the regular unit. -Blaze Hydra, Progenitor and Behemoth have unique damage for attacks that are similar. -Observers spawned by Progenitors do the same damage as regular Observers. -I did not observe impact from the Behemoth's "grenade Dhan" shot, just the DOT. -The Bronze, Silver and Gold numbers for those units are approximated. They don't seem to even appear on Bronze or Silver, and I was tired of RNG objectives after screwing with Platinum. -Out of cover damage observed. Base was largely calculated, but some were observed. Enemy Damage BaseEnemy Damage Out of Cover
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Post by lennybusker on Jul 17, 2017 23:49:30 GMT
vs Saboteur, demonstrating Snap Freeze debuff
HP, 864228207, 13557, B687F4D0, 0.000, 4750.000, 4679.250, -70.750 Hurricane
HP, 864228285, 78, B687F4D0, 0.000, 4679.250, 4608.500, -70.750
HP, 864236615, 8330, B687F4D0, 0.000, 4608.500, 4521.000, -87.500 Snap Freeze
HP, 864236880, 265, B687F4D0, 0.000, 4521.000, 4433.500, -87.500
HP, 864237146, 266, B687F4D0, 0.000, 4433.500, 4346.000, -87.500
HP, 864237411, 265, B687F4D0, 0.000, 4346.000, 4258.500, -87.500
HP, 864238752, 1341, B687F4D0, 0.000, 4258.500, 4142.375, -116.125 Hurricane
HP, 864238815, 63, B687F4D0, 0.000, 4142.375, 4026.250, -116.125
HP, 864245117, 6302, B687F4D0, 0.000, 4026.250, 3910.125, -116.125
HP, 864253307, 8190, B687F4D0, 0.000, 3910.125, 3839.375, -70.750
vs Hydra
HP, 864590987, 23088, 958D79F0, 38000.000, 38000.000, 37929.250, -70.750
HP, 864591049, 62, 958D79F0, 38000.000, 38000.000, 37929.250, -70.750
HP, 864597523, 6474, 958D79F0, 38000.000, 38000.000, 37899.375, -100.625 snap freeze hitting crit spot
HP, 864597789, 266, 958D79F0, 38000.000, 38000.000, 37899.375, -100.625
HP, 864598054, 265, 958D79F0, 38000.000, 38000.000, 37899.375, -100.625
HP, 864598319, 265, 958D79F0, 38000.000, 38000.000, 37899.375, -100.625
HP, 864599427, 1108, 958D79F0, 38000.000, 38000.000, 37883.875, -116.125
HP, 864599520, 93, 958D79F0, 38000.000, 38000.000, 37883.875, -116.125
HP, 864615401, 15881, 958D79F0, 38000.000, 38000.000, 37929.250, -70.750
HP, 864634527, 19126, 958D79F0, 38000.000, 38000.000, 17793.400, -20206.600 cobra
HP, 864648068, 13541, 958D79F0, 38000.000, 38000.000, 22966.000, -15034.000 cobra after crit spot destroyed
HP, 864663824, 15756, 958D79F0, 38000.000, 38000.000, 22966.000, -15034.000
HP, 864673902, 10078, 958D79F0, 38000.000, 38000.000, 37929.250, -70.750
HP, 864682825, 8923, 958D79F0, 38000.000, 38000.000, 37912.500, -87.500
HP, 864691966, 9141, 958D79F0, 38000.000, 38000.000, 37883.875, -116.125
HP, 864694541, 2575, 958D79F0, 38000.000, 38000.000, 22966.000, -15034.000
HP, 864707738, 13197, 958D79F0, 38000.000, 38000.000, 37912.500, -87.500
HP, 864708003, 265, 958D79F0, 38000.000, 38000.000, 37912.500, -87.500
HP, 864708269, 266, 958D79F0, 38000.000, 38000.000, 37912.500, -87.500
HP, 864708534, 265, 958D79F0, 38000.000, 38000.000, 37912.500, -87.500
HP, 864715835, 7301, 958D79F0, 38000.000, 38000.000, 22966.000, -15034.000
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