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Post by Croatsky on Jun 11, 2017 20:04:07 GMT
From your (steel) lips to the Maker's ear. I agree that the collapse of the ME franchise has now put a heavy revenue burden on the DA franchise, but that's nothing compared to the burden on Anthem. Which is rarely a good thing for a brand new IP. Mass Effect franchise had collapsed? That's news to me. Jesus, BSN never changed. This franchise has collapsed since ME2 days, yet here we are. |
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Post by pajmic on Jun 11, 2017 20:04:14 GMT
Probably a good time to add the usual disclaimer when watching a demo for a game this far out from release... As most I'm sure are aware, it'll very likely be a demo created specifically for E3, showing what they hope the final game will be like. There may be gameplay elements that don't make it into final game. There may be an overall level of graphic fidelity that doesn't make it into the final game. If you see something in their demo that you really like - let them know. Tweet the official Twitter, Jonathan Warner, etc. Don't assume it'll be in the game just because they showed it off here. At least that way, if enough people chime in, that particular feature might get prioritized when the inevitable cuts begin. And same if you see something you don't like. Just try to be polite  and if you can explain why you feel it doesn't work for the game - all the better. It doesn't work that way or shouldn't. This mentality for this day and age is like a plague. Not everybody are Ubisoft, you know? It used to be like "if its not in pre-afla it will be in final product" Hell, even recent AAA games like Witcher 3, Horizon or Uncharted 4 looked better when they came out. I can understand caution, but i think you are being paranoid. I have NEVER saw a game, that cut something from its gameplay mechanics. This happening in pre-production state when "prototypes" are being made.  There might be visual downgrade if something goes wrong, then it is possible, but if a production will go well. It will be only better |
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 11, 2017 20:05:43 GMT
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Post by Hrungr on Jun 11, 2017 20:07:49 GMT
Probably a good time to add the usual disclaimer when watching a demo for a game this far out from release... As most I'm sure are aware, it'll very likely be a demo created specifically for E3, showing what they hope the final game will be like. There may be gameplay elements that don't make it into final game. There may be an overall level of graphic fidelity that doesn't make it into the final game. If you see something in their demo that you really like - let them know. Tweet the official Twitter, Jonathan Warner, etc. Don't assume it'll be in the game just because they showed it off here. At least that way, if enough people chime in, that particular feature might get prioritized when the inevitable cuts begin. And same if you see something you don't like. Just try to be polite and if you can explain why you feel it doesn't work for the game - all the better. It doesn't work that way or shouldn't. This mentality for this day and age is like a plague. Not everybody are Ubisoft, you know? It used to be like "if its not in pre-afla it will be in final product" Hell, even recent AAA games like Witcher 3, Horizon or Uncharted 4 looked better when they came out. I can understand caution, but i think you are being paranoid. I have NEVER saw a game, that cut something from its gameplay mechanics. This happening in pre-production state when "prototypes" are being made. There might be visual downgrade if something goes wrong, then it is possible, but if a production will go well. It will be only better |
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Jun 11, 2017 20:11:46 GMT
I wish I could took reality as selective as you do. Must be so comfortable to live in your own dream world and actually believe that stuff. I guess I imagined people blowing things out of massive proportions with ME:A because of few reasons I pointed out. Oh and I guess I imagined people loving DA:I until after TW3 was released. And I also probably imagined there was a backlash of too many open world games being released from both indie devs and major publishers. You forgot "open-world burnout". As a counter-point, Horizon: Zero Dawn, an uncompromisingly open-world game, has sold over 3 million units worldwide. And it's a platform exclusive. Hard to see how they could achieve those numbers if there's all this open-world burnout in the market. |
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Post by Hrungr on Jun 11, 2017 20:13:07 GMT
And here's Jonathan Warner's new Twitter Banner... Lower the color temperature a smidge and this could be a screenshot out Horizon: Zero Dawn. So much post-collapse SF action out there, from Doom to HZD. Why? Why?! Is that the only genre people will buy? Heh... yeah, that image also made me think HZD. It doesn't bother me though - honestly, at this point I'm just happy it's not just another empty wasteland. And if they can come anywhere near this fidelity in the final, all the better. I'm just gonna wait and see what the actual game is like... |
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 11, 2017 20:13:35 GMT
I guess I imagined people blowing things out of massive proportions with ME:A because of few reasons I pointed out. Oh and I guess I imagined people loving DA:I until after TW3 was released. And I also probably imagined there was a backlash of too many open world games being released from both indie devs and major publishers. You forgot "open-world burnout". As a counter-point, Horizon: Zero Dawn, an uncompromisingly open-world game, has sold over 3 million units worldwide. And it's a platform exclusive. Hard to see how they could achieve those numbers if there's all this open-world burnout in the market. Let's not forget 10/10 "Zelda: Breath Of The Wild" which is basically THE open-world game. Oh, and Nier: Automata. |
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 11, 2017 20:16:44 GMT
Lower the color temperature a smidge and this could be a screenshot out Horizon: Zero Dawn. So much post-collapse SF action out there, from Doom to HZD. Why? Why?! Is that the only genre people will buy? Heh... yeah, that image also made me think HZD. It doesn't bother me though - honestly, at this point I'm just happy it's not just another empty wasteland. And if they can come anywhere near this fidelity in the final, all the better. I'm just gonna wait and see what the actual game is like... Well I do hope that the promo pic is accurate and we get to FLY HIGH IN THE SKY! (... I wouldn't mind if those were just super-jumps though) |
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Jun 11, 2017 20:20:05 GMT
From your (steel) lips to the Maker's ear. I agree that the collapse of the ME franchise has now put a heavy revenue burden on the DA franchise, but that's nothing compared to the burden on Anthem. Which is rarely a good thing for a brand new IP. Mass Effect franchise had collapsed? That's news to me. Jesus, BSN never changed. This franchise has collapsed since ME2 days, yet here we are. "collapsed", "hiatus", "shelved indefinitely". Potato, potahto. In this case, I think "BSN" is being kind, relative to everyone else: www.kotaku.com.au/2017/05/sources-bioware-montreal-downsized-mass-effect-put-on-ice-for-now/www.gamespot.com/articles/mass-effect-reportedly-on-hiatus-changes-made-at-b/1100-6449945/www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2017/05/11/mass-effect-andromeda-sequel-issues-may-leave-all-its-cliffhanger-storylines-unresolved/#660fc46a32c8I mean, c'mon, people lost their jobs. Say what you will about BSN hyperbole, but there's no denying the ME franchise has fallen on very hard times indeed. |
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Post by Fogg on Jun 11, 2017 20:20:30 GMT
Sorry for getting into arguments, people. I'm probably a bit too excited and sceptical at the same time about the reveal coming up. I'll just focus on that from now.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Jun 11, 2017 20:23:42 GMT
Sorry for getting into arguments, people. I'm probably a bit too excited and sceptical at the same time about the reveal coming up. I'll just focus on that from now. Great, now I look like an ass for picking up the argument. Thanks, Fogg. I too will get back on topic. |
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Post by Hrungr on Jun 11, 2017 20:26:00 GMT
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Post by Gwydden on Jun 11, 2017 20:27:34 GMT
Oh and I guess I imagined people loving DA:I until after TW3 was released. DA:I had an (undeservedly) good reception. Again, it was Bioware's best-selling game to date and GotY to boot. You seem to be suggesting that public opinion turned against it at some point, which I don't remember happening. To this day, you can take a look at these boards and most people like the game, even if they recognize its flaws. TW3 definitely overshadowed DA:I and the hype took little time to transition from one game to the other, but that's hardly the same as people turning against Inquisition all of a sudden. I would suggest that maybe it is not that a wave of hate materialized out of thin air, but that those that did not like DA:I got a popular alternative to compare it to. Bioware has been a controversial developer ever since DA2, but DA:I has been their most indisputably successful title since then. |
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Post by Hrungr on Jun 11, 2017 20:31:34 GMT
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To all video game and BioWare fans, you're not going to want to miss this. #E32017 Microsoft press conference coming up in 30mins.
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Post by Croatsky on Jun 11, 2017 20:32:24 GMT
You forgot "open-world burnout". As a counter-point, Horizon: Zero Dawn, an uncompromisingly open-world game, has sold over 3 million units worldwide. And it's a platform exclusive. Hard to see how they could achieve those numbers if there's all this open-world burnout in the market. Let's not forget 10/10 "Zelda: Breath Of The Wild" which is basically THE open-world game. Oh, and Nier: Automata. No shit Zelda got that reception, it's Zelda. Nintendo only needs to make an alright Zelda game and it will be 10/10. And ME:A sold well anyway, I'm talking about reception not sales. Nothing but alarmism caused by Kotaku, over-blowing a non-existent issue and had to retract on it multiple times. Also this same gaming press criticised Bioware for releasing a patch fixing facial animations, which pirates won't be able to access. Yes, that's the level of quality of gaming press we have. |
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Post by Hrungr on Jun 11, 2017 20:38:21 GMT
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.@e3 has never seen #True4K like this, not only are we streaming briefing in 4K, attendees will see all our games on a massive 4K LED screen pbs.twimg.com/media/DCD5FXbVwAA9-sh.jpg- Hunh... I never realized until now MS was using Anthem's font in their promotions.
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Post by jagaro on Jun 11, 2017 20:38:48 GMT
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 11, 2017 20:40:31 GMT
- Hunh... I never realized until now MS was using Anthem's font in their promotions. They're not. It's very similar, but it's not the same font - it has the same "let's cut part of the letter" thingy going on, which is quite popular in modern font design in general, but it's much more rounded. |
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 11, 2017 20:43:04 GMT
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Post by BioFan on Jun 11, 2017 20:44:27 GMT
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Post by Hrungr on Jun 11, 2017 20:45:42 GMT
- Hunh... I never realized until now MS was using Anthem's font in their promotions. They're not. It's very similar, but it's not the same font - it has the same "let's cut part of the letter" thingy going on, which is quite popular in modern font design in general, but it's much more rounded. Flipping back and forth between the two of them, I don't know if I agree. They look identical to me. |
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Post by Fogg on Jun 11, 2017 20:49:21 GMT
Ladies and gentlemen, all please rise...
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There might be visual downgrade if something goes wrong, then it is possible, but if a production will go well. It will be only better 
We'll forever be bound to memory of cheesy MTV ripoff!
