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Post by hanskey on May 3, 2017 19:25:31 GMT
Holy shit, A confrontation that didn't end in with the intervention of DragonRacer a fallout, there may be still hope in this forum. It was an accident. Any moment now, the next running battle with stupid bullets will break out.
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Post by hanskey on May 3, 2017 19:27:37 GMT
LOL!! JIC that was not a joke(?) it's a completely different game. An MMOBA, that's been around for years. Ah, never heard of it. That's cool. I only know it exists because my kid was obsessed with Tribes: Ascend, and eventually when they killed that F2P game, I heard they did so to focus on their version of LoL/DOTA/DOTA 2, called Smite. I'm supremely meh on those kind of games, so knowledge was entirely accidental.
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Post by Proto on May 3, 2017 19:28:36 GMT
I think they have a few others. Paladins to name one. (Never played it, supposedly like overwatch) I only bring them up as an example. Of how to do persistent MMO well? Sure, I think they do it well over there, but ME:A is very much not F2P, where ALL the money is in the back-end. Bioware's hybrid monetization model means they don't really have to have things working perfectly all the time, because a lot of sales are from people paying for the game itself to play SP, which Smite and any other MMO simply don't have. It also means resources get split into SP and MP bugs as well as SP and MP future DLC. There's risks and rewards to both, but there can be no gamebreakers in true, pure MMO, or those games die and die hard and die fast. I'd argue Bioware not adopting the cosmetic/moba approach as a mistake. Why make it pay 2 win when you'll have way more people inclined to pay for skins/voice-packs ect...Pokémon card mentality is addictive. They would make much more money (exclusive, not attainable through play time like credits) and have happier customers because they have more resources.
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Post by Proto on May 3, 2017 19:30:09 GMT
Feeding off previous post:
From all I've read many would be inclined to purchase a badass Krogan skin with a badass voice pack and melee animation.
$5 = boom
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Post by hanskey on May 3, 2017 19:33:29 GMT
Of how to do persistent MMO well? Sure, I think they do it well over there, but ME:A is very much not F2P, where ALL the money is in the back-end. Bioware's hybrid monetization model means they don't really have to have things working perfectly all the time, because a lot of sales are from people paying for the game itself to play SP, which Smite and any other MMO simply don't have. It also means resources get split into SP and MP bugs as well as SP and MP future DLC. There's risks and rewards to both, but there can be no gamebreakers in true, pure MMO, or those games die and die hard and die fast. I'd argue Bioware not adopting the cosmetic/moba approach as a mistake. Why make it pay 2 win when you'll have way more people inclined to pay for skins/voice-packs ect...Pokémon card mentality is addictive. They would make much more money (exclusive, not attainable through play time like credits) and have happier customers because they have more resources. Agreed. Take the DOTA 2 monetization route, because ME peeps LOVE FLARE (I have very little evidence, but I'm really sure this is true with how everyone freaked out about bringing custom characters from previous version in and having to fix their looks - we're obssessed with collecting ME stuff, bros). Plus, you retain far more peeps if you don't paywall gear, especially if you are having serious bugs.
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Post by hanskey on May 3, 2017 19:35:01 GMT
Pay for flare = brilliant, pay to win = stupid and risky because your game has to actually work and be manually re-balanced all the damn time to keep retention high.
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Post by Beerfish on May 3, 2017 19:37:27 GMT
I never spent money to get chest or packs or such in me3mp. i spent money a number of times after a good expansion came out. I was not spending to get a specific item or fast track my grinding, just because I liked the new content of a each good expansion.
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Post by crashsuit on May 3, 2017 19:41:24 GMT
I'll gladly offer unofficial MEAMP tech support on Tuesday for a hamburger today
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Post by xassantex on May 3, 2017 19:44:35 GMT
i feel cheated when steamy arguments get resolved in so much civility.
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Post by hanskey on May 3, 2017 19:44:50 GMT
Beerfish - I decided to spent a little extra cash this time, because I was stuck in Silver and Bronze for so long in ME3 MP, mainly because of bad weapons (that was my hypothesis anyway, but it could also have been that I sucked for a long time, or that I just was overly afraid of sucking in Gold/Plat and just didn't try). Also, I don't plan on buying any other games for at least a year and I want the game to be a success so they continue to maintain MP for this and ME3, so that's another part of why I got some Andromeda points for actual money. I will definitely be buying DLC for this game.
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Post by hanskey on May 3, 2017 19:46:13 GMT
i feel cheated when steamy arguments get resolved in so much civility. This is ME:A, so maybe get used to feeling cheated?! ^^^It's not that bad, but gotta use them sick burns before they all get used up.
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Post by hanskey on May 3, 2017 19:49:02 GMT
Yeah I couldn't figure out how to make the quote show up correctly in the post ITT. I posted a link to the thread /page that post is in to the OP, when I revised.
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Post by Proto on May 3, 2017 19:52:23 GMT
Bioware is hilarious. At least they took some action.
"Tip of the hat"
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Post by hanskey on May 3, 2017 19:54:19 GMT
I'll gladly offer unofficial MEAMP tech support on Tuesday for a hamburger today I love this. You must be as old as me to know that one.
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Post by hanskey on May 3, 2017 19:56:07 GMT
Bioware is hilarious. At least they took some action. "Tip of the hat" Gonna need you to elaborate a little. Hilarious for this general "send them away so it's not my problem" or did something JUST HAPPEN I DON'T KNOW ABOUT!!?!?!
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Post by Kenny Bania on May 3, 2017 19:56:51 GMT
I'll gladly offer unofficial MEAMP tech support on Tuesday for a hamburger today I remembered the Popeye movie today, and was singing that all day.
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Post by hanskey on May 3, 2017 20:09:24 GMT
Bioware is hilarious. At least they took some action. "Tip of the hat" Their twitter message about getting together on Friday about MP balance must be what you meant, Proto !! I forsee this devolving into a complete shitstorm immediately, but at least they seem to realize they need to get the community re-engaged. There's a huge number of super fan/enthusiast users that have simply stopped playing MP until shit gets fixed and that's a complete disaster for back-end monetization.
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Post by Nightman on May 3, 2017 20:12:40 GMT
........ but I just moved up to #254,321 on the global leader boards....... What am I supposed to do now?????????
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Post by DragonRacer on May 3, 2017 20:15:49 GMT
Not really sure what the post talking about official BioWare mods? was all about?
But none of the moderators in THIS forum are BioWare or EA employees.
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Post by hanskey on May 3, 2017 20:20:40 GMT
That was a confusing one.
I think he was trying to say nevermind all the worries, people here are great, which is true, idk.
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Post by hanskey on May 3, 2017 21:46:39 GMT
Yeah I couldn't figure out how to make the quote show up correctly in the post ITT. I posted a link to the thread /page that post is in to the OP, when I revised. Yeah, crashsuit - he specc'ed into Maximum IRL Irony. Rarely used skill, but can be OP in the right builds.
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Post by palmof40sorrows on May 3, 2017 21:54:48 GMT
I am terrible at using forums, and have no idea how to attach an image. I have been referred here by EA support recently and have the email to prove it. Anyone want to provide a technology scrub on how to get that in here? (I am at work and used snagit to grab the email image and edit out my name)
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on May 3, 2017 22:06:02 GMT
How about we redirect them to the EA forums?
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