Chill Zone (The Tavetaan)

Ooh, only the one thing. Ya know. It's like those barnyard animals. Brown chicken Brown cow? (I hope you get the joke)

I don't think it often changed the outcome in game, but it did contribute to roleplay for me.

I'm pretty sure in the Tavetann, drinking is always a relevant topic. 

I think we all were. Well the ones that are in here were anyway.

That I call a logic puzzle. One I failed because I didn't know it was a friggen dialogue based logic puzzle. Only one in the entire game.

So, I'mma compare this to DA series, DA2 and DAI, with a splash of Shepard.  

Hawke had three different ways to say something

Diplomatic would usually get Hawke to say something conciliatory or kind.
Sarcastic would usually get Hawke to say something sarcastic or charming.
Aggressive would usually get Hawke to be rude or threatening. 

These are three very intuitive options that gave you a wide range to react to something. Without the penalty of the Renegade/Paragon system of the OT. One of these options were most often sacrificed to allow the flirt option (to my consternation when trying to avoid flirting with Anders and Isabella.) BUT! 90%+ of the game, you had these 3 options.

DAI had SEVEN:

Stoic:
Pleased
Sad
Mad
Confused
Surprised
Anxious

With additional options you could earn depending on perks, race, class, and romantic availability. But these 7 unique options, despite being drastically different replies, weren't always available.  For the most part, you got 3 options on the right that echoed HAwke's options for better or worse (diplo, sarcastic,rude)

What MEA gave me was Logical/Professional on the right, which is nearly the same thing, and casual/emotional...which, I think there are more differences between these two on the left.  Maybe I imagined it, but "Emotional" seemed to allow you to let the person you were talking to know you cared about what you were saying to them and about them.  then for MOST of the game, they only gave me 2/4 options to choose from at all.  Both bottom options, both top options.  And 90% of the time, Ryder was being agreeable. Cold agreeable vs dork agreeable, but agreeable nontheless. 

Which is fewer that the 3 options I ALWAYS got as the Inquisitor. Maybe the Inquisitor also almost always had to be agreeable too, but my choices were, "Of course I'll help." "Cracks a joke, let's get down." and, my favorite. "This is stupid/you are stupid, but I'll do it." 

At first I was pleased to see a dialogue wheel in MEA that reminded me of DAI. 4 ways to say something! but no.  Most of the time, it was just TWO ways to say somethign. And those two were not very different, certainly no Renegade vs Paragon levels of different. 

My last memorable conversation with Suvi, I was trying to be accepting of her beliefs while not implying I had any myself. She accused my Ryder of just humoring her and implying she's crazy.  Suvi glared. This whole conversation was just uncomfortable. I'm an atheist in real life, maybe it was just too real. But compared to conversations in Bioware games I've had about characters' religions, like with Cassandra, Thane, Cullen... I did NOT get the vibe of agree to disagree.  I couldn't help wondering if the whol epoint of the conversation was the writers getting onto me for not being religious and a quiet shaming way. It's too bad Suvi had to be the deliverer of such a judgement, because I loved her smile and how she looked at the universe in wonder. But because of this whole conversation, yes, she's ruined for me.

Because you can either be religious with her or not religious with her. I'm not going to play a religious character just to see her smile at me. I only play religious characters if the game supports it in multiple ways. DAI has this theme of Faith, so there are multiple ways to express it and an in game tracker regarding your belief in being the Herald. So, I'm currently playing a MAker Folowing Trev and it's been VERY different, showing my content I've never got before. 

I am an atheist too and I really didn't get that from her, mind I did choose to say I apologised if I offended her and Ryders words were not how I would have said it. 

I liked Suvi but my characters believe in God. I also liked that in Andromeda there wasn't one character making most of the important discoveries, like was the case in ME3 with Traynor.

In fact I wish Shepard did a lot more detective work in ME2, like a Traynor, discovering more about the Reapers.

I would actually have preferred her to react more strongly. As it was, it was like, "Pleasant curious chat about faith-- SUVI LASHES OUT- Ryder apologizes awkwardly--Suvi judges apology for what it is ( an attempt to just get along) then declares, "It's fine, you're right anyway. I got my faith." then turns around back to her desk with a scowl on her face" End scene. Stronger would have been acknowledging that she didn't even know why she was discussing it with my Ryder but she would anyway. The way it went, I feel like she regretted speaking to Ryder about it at all and that she would now treat me with ice professionalism for the rest of the game. I dunno. It was 30 seconds and I remember it as just giving me the awkward feel bads. 

That's too bad. I understand that making you feel awkward.

I'd say Jaal always made me feel the most awkward. I'm not sure why, but his interactions with Liam and their conversions always left me saying "ummmm, what?" and feeling off.