Chill Zone (The Tavetaan)

Mar 1, 2017 16:53:53 GMT majesticjazz said:

Mar 1, 2017 13:03:45 GMT shechinah said:

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Oh sorry. I unfortunately have a habit of thinking that when someone is talking about the maturity of the Witcher romances, they are referring to the sex scenes. It's because it's what I frequently hear when it comes to the Witcher romances. I know not all Witcher can think so since I've read posts focusing on the other aspects and personally, I don't consider the presence of sex to be a sign of maturity including about a romance.

I think a large part in the difference between the content amount boils down to that Bioware has more romance options which can leave less content for each romance. I know people have argued in the past that Bioware should shave down the options so that there'll be more content for what few there are like how it is done in Witcher but I honestly prefer multiple romance options. It's a bit difficult for me to properly explain but I'll try so bear with me on the perhaps poor execution of words.

Personally, I prefer that Bioware improve on Bioware's way of doing romances. This is especially because I suspect that were the options limited to about two or three, it would be very unlikely it'd be romances that I'd find interesting. I think they'd stick to romances that are believed to be the most appealing such as human and asari. When there are more romance options, I think it gives way to have romances that are about exploring different relationships like ones that are atypical, tragic or unhealthy like Thane, Solas and Anders.

With Thane, the tragedic in his romance is not an optional aspect that can be averted: he is terminally ill and his death as well as the invietable grief is something he and the player can try to come to terms with but not prevent. It is basically a tragic story of two people who love each other but who have limited time left and whose circumstances constantly keep them apart and from enjoying what time they have left. If Mass Effect had only had three options, this romance would have never happened. It may not have much content but I consider it to be heart breaking and enjoyable. I'd consider that to be a shame.

Solas was not intended to be a romance but he remains of my favorites because of how well the content of his romance is handled. This is especially given how badly it could have wound up with a horrible case of Unfortunate Implications. It even gives an interesting insight into Solas' character that can be seen outside of the romance but which the romance shows from a different angle. At the end, Solas decides to leave, not because he wants to but because he believes he has to. He has the option of moving on from his past and be happy but he feels that he can't. Again, if Bioware had decided to go with only three options, Solas' romance wouldn't have happened and I'd consider that a shame.  

I guess what I mean is that more romances may limit the amount of content each can have but fewer romances may limit what that content can be about.

Mar 1, 2017 21:48:55 GMT SpiritVanguard said:

...atypical, tragic or unhealthy like Thane, Solas and Anders.

 Anders is atypical, sure, but he and my Hawke are happy together.  As long as BioWare doesn't try to ruin it again. :srs:

It's more that I consider aspects of the romance to be unhealthy like how Anders tries to emotionally blackmail Hawke into helping him with something that he intends to use to commit mass murder without Hawke's knowledge. Bit hard to say that without making it sound like I'm putting you down so uh, I don't mean for it to sound like that. I love the romance, I like Anders and think it would have been a shame if the romance hadn't been included. I just think we view the romance and the character in a different light? Like how Solas's character is viewed in a different light by different people?

Mar 2, 2017 5:24:54 GMT melbella said:

Hmm....should I sign up for the free trial of Origin Access to get my discount on the game now, or should I wait to see if the 7 day free promo period will last long enough to include at least 1 day of the MEA access beginning on 3/16? I'm thinking I better try out the game for free to see if my system can even run it.

The Origin Access promotion has lasted longer than I thought it would so it might just last 'till the 16th March. Hmm...

I'd say that if you want to want to play the early access the most then I say wait but if you want the discount the most then I'd say sign up for the free trial and buy the game now. Basically, go with whichever you want the most.  

Mar 1, 2017 23:54:09 GMT SpiritVanguard said:

Mar 1, 2017 22:49:29 GMT shechinah said:

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Many are quick to paint Anders as some some unrepentant, manipulative monster, and that's unfair. I'm in the minority in that I didn't feel betrayed or used and, yes, it does get tiring to read about how his romance is this tragic-soaked unhealthy affair better avoided because that's not what I saw. It's a complicated topic, I suppose, so it's not a can of worms

Edit: I do wonder what MEA will bring...

I wouldn't say I consider Anders to be an unrepentant monster: a heavily flawed man who does and can do terrible things sometimes because of how he and Vengenace influences each other. I do consider his plan to be all kinds of counterproductive to his goals: he intends to force a conflict between mages and templars into an open rebellion but seems to fail to consider that the mages are unprepared for something like that, don't have the support structure to do that and have very limited, if any, resources. Also, what he did can basically be used as an example to demonstrate how true all the worst suspecions about free mages are.

But yeah, that's not something that we should start discussing in this thread. Just wanted to share my last thoughts on it before moving on.

I hope there'll be a romance with a member of an Andromedan race. I know that sounds vague but basically I can see so many interesting ways that romance could go about and what it could potentially explore. I would still like to see alien customs being delved into during romances with aliens such as turians. I don't need for it to be the focus of the romance, just think it could be nice and interesting to see.