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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 8, 2017 23:18:00 GMT
Speaking on gameplay, I'd agree. Speaking on the lore, the fact that Ryder's health is hostage to SAM's wellbeing, willingness, and ability to maintain connection is absolutely a concern. It's a dependence, not a symbiosis, that wouldn't make for any healthy societal balance. And yet, they're both proven to still be fallible. SAM and EDI both fall briefly to computer viruses, which establishes proof of concept that they can be hacked, and that's what matters. 'Advanced enough to fight said viruses off' is like saying you have an unbroken record of not dying. It's only relevant until it's not true, and AI cyberdefenses are only sufficient until enemy cyberweapons and delivery methods advance enough. EDI used Reaper tech, which is the pinacle of technological sophistication, but the SAM nodes are vulnerable to rigged astronomical data- which was done by an independent hacker, not even a state-sponsored cyber-weapon or an AI-competitor. And that's without the issue of simply over-running the SAM node through brute force, like the Kett did. But he'd be dead without it so it's not really a concern. Either they have SAM and live or you don't and die. It's like worrying about aging at that point. Yeah you can do it but it's pretty damn pointless. If anything the concern of keeping SAM safe should dominant rather than worrying about SAM killing you. They don't fall tho not completely thus why they need the PC as much as he/she needs them. Except for the small issue of them advancing as well (most likely at a far faster pace). EDI used Reaper tech which was merely an advancement of the tech SAM had. It's not insurmountable goal it just takes time (which the Reapers never gave the MW species because they'd get harvested and blinded to other paths) not to mention it's quite possible Andromeda's tech (which SAM has been learning from) is more advanced in certain ways than Reaper tech was. That said you're right about the SAM Node being a huge weak point. I'm fairly certain that's gonna come up again in later games (well if we still get them).
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 8, 2017 22:48:30 GMT
Liam is a sweetheart and Reyes is the morally questionable dork. I'd go with either of them. Liam if you want your LI by your side from the beginning tho.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 8, 2017 22:43:24 GMT
I mean I just felt the scene was trite as fuck. Not that it needed to be removed. (That said I really could do without my femPC being forced into such circumstances just because I had the audacity to romance a man.)
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 8, 2017 22:36:27 GMT
That's a bit much tho isn't it? (Plus there's games for that). I thought my point was simple enough: that arguing "it's made for men so if it's male fantasy that's ok" isn't good enough. So what about that (while cheesy and eye roll inducing) is actively harmful?
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 8, 2017 22:32:50 GMT
To be fair if these romances are just about playing out our fantasies, then shouldn't the straight male only romance be about the straight male fantasy? Assuming that this is even part of the "straight male fantasy", anyway. I don't know of any guys that enjoy the women feeling discomfort during sex(though some such people exist). Some guys fantasise about raping women - should that be in there too?It's about responsibility. This isn't just "give them what they want and consequences be damned." If that was the case the games would be an ever-loving mess. And it's not about actually liking to hurt women when entering them, but the concept of a man being man enough to do that. It's difficult to explain without a full on run-down of images of domination and subjugation and how it ties into patriarchy more generally and no one wants that. Suffice to say, it makes me uneasy. That's a bit much tho isn't it? (Plus there's games for that).
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 8, 2017 22:17:51 GMT
SAM is stated to be a shackled AI isn't he? Also, even if he is, he views the Ryders as family and all of his experiences are *AS* Alec or his child. That's like asking, "Could Sarah kill Scott?" More like 'Could Sarah kill Scott with just a thought, without Scott being able to defend himself from the thought.' And then hoping that Sarah never gets angry enough- or drugged/mind controlled enough- to think it. Personal loyalty is well and good, but SAM is ultimately still a computer. Aside from free will agency- the question of his opinion changing- SAM's opinion can be changed for him by any sufficiently advanced virus. SAM may be cutting edge technology for the moment... but that won't necessarily last. It's a pointless concern. Ryder is only alive thanks to SAM. The second SAM is disconnected Ryder drops and again SAM has to be the one to revive them. (Also the final battle really should've been like that fight in DE:HR if you're dumb enough to get the new implants). At the very least the profiles and switching them should've been disabled. As for the virus thing the same applied for EDI (who could've jettisoned the entire crew into space at any time after she was unshackled). The whole point of EDI/SAM is that they're advanced enough to fight said viruses off.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 8, 2017 22:11:56 GMT
Another sign the ME team was/is dudebro as fuck. HOW THE HELL DID NO ONE CATCH HOW AWFUL THAT LOOKS. And making it female only as well... Seriously. It'd be one thing is Javik trolled Shep by thinking he slept with them then was like "wow you actually believe I'd sleep with one of you primitives? No." and it happened to both genders but the way it did? Nope. Nope nope nope. Pretty embarrassing that our gracious Asari trained huntress would slip over such a simple, insignificant rock, here's hoping she doesn't get another leadership Trauma out of this. Nah one of Sarissa's manuals covers that
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 8, 2017 22:06:07 GMT
I don't have anything against Kelly herself, but there was so little of it that it never felt worth doing for me. I know. I was half joking with that post. While I love her, she definitely got screwed in terms of LI content. I mean she is literally the only LI i the trilogy not to get Citadel content and if you throw a wild party she is the only LI where even if you are locked in femshep is raped by sleeps with Javik. Another sign the ME team was/is dudebro as fuck. HOW THE HELL DID NO ONE CATCH HOW AWFUL THAT LOOKS.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 8, 2017 22:04:04 GMT
In that manner? yes it's pure cheese and trite as fuck. I don't think you can call it trite since while in general it may be but I think this is the first time Bioware has ever done that in a romance. Just because BW's using it for the first time doesn't make it any less common.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 8, 2017 21:54:50 GMT
So wait, a lady tripping and a guy catching her to stop her from falling is bad now? Here is the scene btw: In that manner? yes it's pure cheese and trite as fuck.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 8, 2017 21:46:30 GMT
She tripped into Scott's arms? You've gots to be kidding me. from what i've heard. tho i'll be glad to be proven wrong; the transparency of them making a trained warrior fumble into some 22yo kid's arms to make her seem ~vulnerable~ is. ugh. oh please let that be an exaggeration then. That's some shit Merrill would do not Cora. She tripped into Scott's arms? You've gots to be kidding me. Its not bad enough that the guy steals her job. Now this! lmao
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 8, 2017 21:38:29 GMT
She tripped into Scott's arms?
You've gots to be kidding me.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 8, 2017 18:22:00 GMT
Synthesis effected more than one person. If Synthesis had just had Shep merging with Starbrat it wouldn't have been so bad (still shit but not as shit). That and SAM didn't murder trillions of people. Ahaha, I wasn't questioning the ethics more so the implementation, is there ever any real explanation for how the monoliths work? I did have to immediately eyeroll at the flowers instantly blooming on Eos in the cinematic at the end of the game tbh. Oh yeah people are a lot more forgiving of bullshit when it doesn't make everything ~grimdark for speculations! (I still can't believe that was a thing like fucking what).
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 8, 2017 18:10:56 GMT
I'm surprised that more people aren't mad at the story after all that space magic backlash at the synthesis ending. Synthesis effected more than one person. If Synthesis had just had Shep merging with Starbrat it wouldn't have been so bad (still shit but not as shit). That and SAM didn't murder trillions of people.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 8, 2017 17:24:39 GMT
All I see are face presets and some reshades.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 8, 2017 17:10:45 GMT
Honestly I can see why Ryder wouldn't be concerned. SAM has been in Alec's head all that time and if SAM ever does decide to kill them there's nothing they can do about it (not to mention SAM saved their life once already) and removing SAM will kill them. It's like why even be bothered at that point.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 8, 2017 16:29:06 GMT
SAM flat out tells you why that'd be a stupid idea on his part. AI are logical beings. He's not gonna kill his only access to the real world not to mention he'd almost immediately be deactivated soon afterwards. For now, that is very true. But we know that SAMs can be transferred to others as well. And just because they are AI doesn't mean they need to be 100% logical. That gambling AI on the presidium in ME1 seemed way more emotional than logical. EDI also gained more , shall we say philosophically rather than logically guided ideas in ME3. AI are adaptable, capable of learning and self development. They are more than code. I agree that at the time of ME:A, a SAM is not a danger to it's avatar. That doesn't mean that circumstances can't develop where a conflict of interest is appearing. SAMs need the previous owner to authorize the transfer and if they die too soon into the transfer it traumatizes them the turian SAM shows this. Another reason SAM wouldn't kill Ryder if anything. Yeah but she still was mostly logical. The Gambling AI I'll give you. By the time SAM does become emotional it'll have been heavily influenced by both Alec and Ryder's memories and fond recollections of them. It's highly unlikely he'll suddenly want to murder them he has nothing to gain and only things to lose. If anything the only conflict of interest I see SAM doing is going overboard in protecting Ryder that he does something they haven't authorized.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 8, 2017 15:08:30 GMT
Played the Archon's ship/salarian ARK mission yesterday and HOLY SHIT!!! Sam can just kill Ryder whenever he wants to. I mean, I thought Ryder should be kinda freaked out about having AI controlled implants all over her brain and body but this one takes the cake. And Ryder doesn't even properly freak out at this. I chose every option I could to make her loose it over this and the best i got was in a follow up conversation with Suvi, where she's like: "Wow, SAM can kill you, did not know that." and Ryder goes: "Imagine how I felt." to which Suvi replies with a little light laugh. Hahaha, very funny, especially because apparently no one told the pathfinders about a little kill switch in their head that another independent intelligence now holds in their hand. Surpriiiiiise! What did wou think, did that moment freak you out? I though Ryder took it too much in stride. Good think Javik is not part of the Initiative, he'd have a field day with this one. SAM flat out tells you why that'd be a stupid idea on his part. AI are logical beings. He's not gonna kill his only access to the real world not to mention he'd almost immediately be deactivated soon afterwards.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 8, 2017 6:38:23 GMT
And he has pretty much half the romance content of many of the other LIs. Reyes is beaut.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 8, 2017 2:48:52 GMT
Agreed. They have to stay as how they were, flashlight heads and all. That said I wouldn't mind if we got another Geth squadmate they had a different model, like maybe something bulkier than Legion. Like a Geth Prime, but smaller size. Plus the little headflaps moving is adorable Yeah I'd hope for another platform made for interacting with humans but a mini prime would work too.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 8, 2017 2:38:05 GMT
Legion is my baby. I need more bro bots. Whenever I see someone say bro bot, I think of this. I have to share Trunks confusion But nah I'd rather the Geth stay in their forms. Them being made more humanoid would annoy the shit out of me. I liked them because they were the most alien of the races (outside of the Rachni) and ME3 just fucked that up.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 8, 2017 2:29:55 GMT
I hope Reyes gets a sex scene, cause that way gay guys get a romance option who has one. And yeah, I want it to be Cora level explicit. In that closet. Or better yet, an invite onto the Tempest to do it there. I just need more Reyes loving as part of the "improvements". I'd only want an explicit sex scene like that if there's some humor in it. (I want to see accidental smashing into pointy things and laughter damnit). Otherwise give me a ftb.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 8, 2017 1:19:34 GMT
D: nooooo leave them alonez. They are perfect But how can you deny robot abs? I guess Warframe has shown me the power of robot abs. Geth are there to be adorable bros that are killing machines not EDI sexbots. Use SAM for that shit.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 8, 2017 1:06:41 GMT
Legion is my baby. I need more bro bots. Hoping that maybe the design changes a bit for a Geth squadmate, that they have a more human torso. I want those robot abs. D: nooooo leave them alonez. They are perfect
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 8, 2017 0:53:45 GMT
I really hope Geth show up somehow. Legion was my favorite character from the OT. Legion is my baby. I need more bro bots.
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