riou
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
Origin: CDN_Aaron
Posts: 212 Likes: 488
inherit
3824
0
488
riou
212
February 2017
riou
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
CDN_Aaron
|
Post by riou on Mar 20, 2017 11:09:35 GMT
But then spoiling it for us wouldn't have been much better. Then we'd be yelling and bitching about why X wasn't romanceable or why there's no Y-type people in the game, etc. If you don't want spoilers, don't read the spoiler forum, but I think it would have been better for a lot of people to know what they're actually buying beforehand. We're still going to be yelling later. It's not helping anyone dragging out the process. By that logic, every game with romance options should always tell everyone who can and can't be romanced in advance. Even as a gay person, I strongly disagree with that idea on a lot of levels.
|
|
riou
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
Origin: CDN_Aaron
Posts: 212 Likes: 488
inherit
3824
0
488
riou
212
February 2017
riou
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
CDN_Aaron
|
Post by riou on Mar 20, 2017 11:00:54 GMT
No game publisher and developer has ever been this cruel to their fanbase. Stringing them along with false hope and promises we'll find out soon. We are at the day before the game launches, and nobody fucking knows. I think there have been plenty of lies, intentional or not, from both the marketing and the developers, and no longer should EA and BioWare be separated out for blame. Both are as guilty in this as far as I am concerned. And right now the rate they are turning away their fans, seemingly all of them, straight, gay, lesbian, is alarming. It is quite sad watching Mass Effect fall so far. BioWare too really. But they have lost so much over the years, and have been surpassed above and beyond by those far better than them. Even when we find out the truth about Jaal, this whole experience has soured me against the game, against Mass Effect, and definitely against BioWare. I'm not Nat but you need a chill pill, dude. Or a hot drink. Or a nap.
|
|
riou
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
Origin: CDN_Aaron
Posts: 212 Likes: 488
inherit
3824
0
488
riou
212
February 2017
riou
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
CDN_Aaron
|
Post by riou on Mar 20, 2017 10:57:55 GMT
Oh, yep, same guy. Now I don't know if I want him to be correct. But I think he is just basing his assumptions purely on not romancing Vetra further, idk... I think it's people trying to rush through for information and botching romance paths without realizing it. They haven't had a long time to do this. I doubt they could explore different paths, psych profiles, quest choices, dialogue choices, etc, with different LIs. This is why it's an awful idea for Bioware to just "let us figure it out". But then spoiling it for us wouldn't have been much better. Then we'd be yelling and bitching about why X wasn't romanceable or why there's no Y-type people in the game, etc.
|
|
riou
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
Origin: CDN_Aaron
Posts: 212 Likes: 488
inherit
3824
0
488
riou
212
February 2017
riou
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
CDN_Aaron
|
Post by riou on Mar 20, 2017 10:52:28 GMT
Yeah, VGS came into this thread and said Vetra was straight. But we know that's not true.
|
|
riou
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
Origin: CDN_Aaron
Posts: 212 Likes: 488
inherit
3824
0
488
riou
212
February 2017
riou
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
CDN_Aaron
|
Post by riou on Mar 20, 2017 10:47:09 GMT
And now the game is up to 78% on Metacritic. Up from 75%, which was up from 73%
Dutch where are you I think you need to start putting that foot in your mouth. Also this is out of 10 critic reviews.
What was that about Metacritic scores don't go up?
|
|
riou
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
Origin: CDN_Aaron
Posts: 212 Likes: 488
inherit
3824
0
488
riou
212
February 2017
riou
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
CDN_Aaron
|
Post by riou on Mar 20, 2017 10:37:21 GMT
I don't this game is trying to overthrow the first trilogy. I doesn't need to. It's a new start. OK, the scores are not in the 9's or 10's, but it's the start of a new series, and I'm sure it's going to get better overtime. Yeah it's not up there with the other 3, but why should it be. I was not expecting it to be. All I want is a Mass Effect game that is at the very least, good. It doesn't have to be great. That remains to be seen. All it has to be is a good addition to the franchise. It's funny. Half the people who are fans seem to think is HAS to do at least as good as ME1 or it's a total garbage.
|
|
riou
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
Origin: CDN_Aaron
Posts: 212 Likes: 488
inherit
3824
0
488
riou
212
February 2017
riou
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
CDN_Aaron
|
Post by riou on Mar 20, 2017 10:36:09 GMT
Given how disproportionately popular Jaal is (at least on here) you'd think someone would have had a video series dissecting him from 347 different angles but nope. My guess is that A) he's far enough into the game that people haven't reached him yet. For some reason people outside the fandom don't give a fuck. I mean, this forum? Is likely not even a whole number percent of the actual number of people who will play/like this game.
|
|
riou
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
Origin: CDN_Aaron
Posts: 212 Likes: 488
inherit
3824
0
488
riou
212
February 2017
riou
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
CDN_Aaron
|
Post by riou on Mar 20, 2017 10:33:51 GMT
It's funny how a gritty medieval setting is much more diverse and inclusive than a futuristic utopia one. ??? Well right now the futuristic one is very diverse.
|
|
riou
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
Origin: CDN_Aaron
Posts: 212 Likes: 488
inherit
3824
0
488
riou
212
February 2017
riou
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
CDN_Aaron
|
Post by riou on Mar 20, 2017 10:23:21 GMT
What denial? Have you actually looked at the reviews? The only thing they can agree on is that the technical issues are a noticeable flaw. Otherwise none of them can agree on anything. Not the writing, not the characters, not the game world, not the combat. Not a goddamn thing. So there's nothing to deny. Also 75% is not even remotely a bad score or some death knell for the company. The writing is nearly full consensus of bad, dude... at least on the reviews I've been reading and I've read plenty of them already. And they are pretty universal on the combat too, although thankfully the consensus for this is that it is a good one. But they're not. Compare Forbes to Gamespot. Compare PC Gamer to Eurogamer. Night and day. The only consensus is either "technical issues are a thing" or "we can't agree on shit."
|
|
riou
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
Origin: CDN_Aaron
Posts: 212 Likes: 488
inherit
3824
0
488
riou
212
February 2017
riou
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
CDN_Aaron
|
Post by riou on Mar 20, 2017 10:13:16 GMT
So, you said over in the spoiler thread that a certain character couldn't be romanced by certain Ryders...but we know from the datamine that that's a lie.
Explaination...?
|
|
riou
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
Origin: CDN_Aaron
Posts: 212 Likes: 488
inherit
3824
0
488
riou
212
February 2017
riou
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
CDN_Aaron
|
Post by riou on Mar 20, 2017 10:11:08 GMT
I'm seeing a lot of people in denial right now. Yup, That's fanboyism for you, It clouds the part of the brain that controls critical thinking. What denial? Have you actually looked at the reviews? The only thing they can agree on is that the technical issues are a noticeable flaw. Otherwise none of them can agree on anything. Not the writing, not the characters, not the game world, not the combat. Not a goddamn thing. So there's nothing to deny. Also 75% is not even remotely a bad score or some death knell for the company.
|
|
riou
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
Origin: CDN_Aaron
Posts: 212 Likes: 488
inherit
3824
0
488
riou
212
February 2017
riou
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
CDN_Aaron
|
Post by riou on Mar 20, 2017 9:55:31 GMT
Also?
Didn't dutch and a few others state Metacritic doesn't go up?
And OH WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT?
75% up from 73%
|
|
riou
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
Origin: CDN_Aaron
Posts: 212 Likes: 488
inherit
3824
0
488
riou
212
February 2017
riou
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
CDN_Aaron
|
Post by riou on Mar 20, 2017 9:53:42 GMT
Here's the thing to take into account: The only thing critics universally agree upon is the technical issues.
Otherwise, they leap across the fence in one direction or the other with regards to every other aspect of the game.
Also, it seems a lot of reviews depend on how much of an attachment you have to the OT, or how much you wanted Andromeda to mimic the OT.
Overall, at this point it has honestly become a "decide for yourself" sort of game.
|
|
riou
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
Origin: CDN_Aaron
Posts: 212 Likes: 488
inherit
3824
0
488
riou
212
February 2017
riou
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
CDN_Aaron
|
Post by riou on Mar 20, 2017 8:40:13 GMT
It's possible that people who are trying to romance everyone in a playthrough to see who's romanceable are inadvertently locking themselves out of certain romance options. This sounds like the most likely situation. Yeah, I think they're likely approaching the character incorrectly. Jaal was stated several as being "difficult to romance"
|
|
riou
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
Origin: CDN_Aaron
Posts: 212 Likes: 488
inherit
3824
0
488
riou
212
February 2017
riou
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
CDN_Aaron
|
Post by riou on Mar 20, 2017 8:06:51 GMT
no, for a game like mass effect a 7.7 by IGN, 6 by gamespot and a 73 in metacritic never is good, and honestly, i think 7-6 is a fair score for the game. Talking for me personally, Dragon Age 2 got some wicked backlash and some nasty reviews. But I still love that game to death, even though I know it has a million and one faults. I feel like Andromeda might be in the same boat for me. IGN can't even get their own romance guide right. Metacritic is weighed by an average of review scores we all know how that'll turn out. PC Gamer gave it an 8. Also a 7 is NOT a bad score. Only in this bizarre era is a 7 remotely bad. I think we're looking more at mid 8s, which is fine. ME1 didn't get 10/10 either.
|
|
riou
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
Origin: CDN_Aaron
Posts: 212 Likes: 488
inherit
3824
0
488
riou
212
February 2017
riou
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
CDN_Aaron
|
Post by riou on Mar 20, 2017 8:03:00 GMT
"We don't even know if their are romances in this game tbh." IGN might as well be reporting that.
|
|
riou
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
Origin: CDN_Aaron
Posts: 212 Likes: 488
inherit
3824
0
488
riou
212
February 2017
riou
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
CDN_Aaron
|
Post by riou on Mar 20, 2017 7:59:41 GMT
>Cross next to Liam's name
>LIAM
Congrats IGN, ur a shit
|
|
riou
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
Origin: CDN_Aaron
Posts: 212 Likes: 488
inherit
3824
0
488
riou
212
February 2017
riou
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
CDN_Aaron
|
Post by riou on Mar 20, 2017 7:58:24 GMT
So with the game getting poor reviews left right and centre and BioWare not even willing to clear this mess themselves BY RELEASING THE DAMN LIST OF OPTIONS THEMSElVES I think this is legit the biggest mess I've been part of. I genuinely think we will look back at this time and see it as the beginning of the end for BioWare. This is an actual shitshow, they have screwed this entire game and launch royally, BioWare and EA, both. Actually, the reviews are remarkably positive over all.
|
|
riou
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
Origin: CDN_Aaron
Posts: 212 Likes: 488
inherit
3824
0
488
riou
212
February 2017
riou
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
CDN_Aaron
|
Post by riou on Mar 20, 2017 7:54:03 GMT
Also, for once? This mess has nothing to do with the Marketing Team. This is "journalists" farming for clickbait. If they'd just officially confirmed the romances in the first place this never would've happened. You do realize that one of the biggest things I saw complained about with DA:I was that they gave away too much info, ruining any surprise. I think they're just trying to take that critique into account.
|
|
riou
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
Origin: CDN_Aaron
Posts: 212 Likes: 488
inherit
3824
0
488
riou
212
February 2017
riou
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
CDN_Aaron
|
Post by riou on Mar 20, 2017 7:52:22 GMT
Take absolutely EVERY "romance guide" with a grain of salt.
Some of them are reporting Suvi as being romanceable by Scott. Or Lexi as being romanceable at all.
At this point it's a shitstorm of clickbait.
|
|
riou
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
Origin: CDN_Aaron
Posts: 212 Likes: 488
inherit
3824
0
488
riou
212
February 2017
riou
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
CDN_Aaron
|
Post by riou on Mar 20, 2017 7:49:55 GMT
Also, for once? This mess has nothing to do with the Marketing Team.
This is "journalists" farming for clickbait.
|
|
riou
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
Origin: CDN_Aaron
Posts: 212 Likes: 488
inherit
3824
0
488
riou
212
February 2017
riou
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
CDN_Aaron
|
Post by riou on Mar 20, 2017 7:46:43 GMT
Lol and we thought we would get some solid confirmations from reviewers. They don't even seem to know although they played the game I get the feeling they just want clicks and views more than whether their own information is accurate.
|
|
riou
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
Origin: CDN_Aaron
Posts: 212 Likes: 488
inherit
3824
0
488
riou
212
February 2017
riou
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
CDN_Aaron
|
Post by riou on Mar 20, 2017 7:45:47 GMT
This is the biggest shit storm that I have ever witnessed. Nah, son, nothing will ever compare to the ME3 ending... Those were dark days.This release might be on par with how messy ME3 was.
|
|
riou
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
Origin: CDN_Aaron
Posts: 212 Likes: 488
inherit
3824
0
488
riou
212
February 2017
riou
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
CDN_Aaron
|
Post by riou on Mar 20, 2017 7:43:02 GMT
So, I am weak willed and decided to check back in here more than 200 pages after I tried going dark, and this is what I come back to? Looking over the past few pages, I've begun stress eating and have now finished half of one of those massive party sized bags of chips. I'm going to be so fat in the morning. Don't. "Reviewers" and "Guide pages" are posting wildly inaccurate information, possibly for the sake of clicks and site revenue.
|
|
riou
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
Origin: CDN_Aaron
Posts: 212 Likes: 488
inherit
3824
0
488
riou
212
February 2017
riou
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
CDN_Aaron
|
Post by riou on Mar 20, 2017 7:39:15 GMT
IGN just UNCONFIRMED Jaal as straight????
|
|