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Post by MrJanisLV on May 10, 2017 6:30:24 GMT
Hello,
Is there a good class tier list for gold runs out there yet?
Would be good to see which classes excel and which need work!
Thanks!
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Post by riviet on May 10, 2017 7:04:49 GMT
Hmm, not that I'm aware of. But honestly, any class can do well on Gold. Having decent weapons makes all the difference since power damage and combos do so little damage before patch 1.06.
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Post by neocodex and 23 others on May 10, 2017 7:18:24 GMT
Tier S - Human Vanguard lul Tier 1 - Vanquisher Tier 2 - Everything else
I'll never forget comments from my RL buddy watching me play a round of gold Outlaws with BW (before their buff) and a round of Kett with human Vanguard after. I had nothing but Talon I at the time as a sidearm. But even he noticed it and doesn't even play the game: "compared to previous one this class looks OP af dude, and why is your team constantly dying?".
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Post by MrJanisLV on May 10, 2017 7:36:04 GMT
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Post by vynticator on May 10, 2017 7:39:31 GMT
I've found the following classes very successful on Gold: Human Soldier Human Sentinel Any Infiltrator Any Asari Any Vanguard Any Krogan Any Salarian (but such annoying voice acting!) I've seen Turian Soldier and Havoc do really well. To be honest, even 'powers' classes do fine on Gold, it's quite easy with halfway decent weapons and gear and equipment. And I don't mean sitting in the corner of Zero and sniping down the alley against Outlaws, which people seem to do a lot. Frankly you can do that with any class and a Vanquisher I
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Post by niroz on May 10, 2017 7:48:08 GMT
Don't feel like recreating a tabled tier list I made a couple weeks ago on reddit.
Basically for gold speed runs that are not limited to just outlaw farming -
Turbocharge, stealth grid, and annihilation field kits are S tier. Krog Van and Human Eng are def B tier Krogan Eng and Salarian Architect are C tier. Everyone else is A tier with a few exceptions being B tier depending on team comp.
This shit will most likely be irrelevant in like 10 hours though.
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Post by physiolosopher on May 10, 2017 7:57:59 GMT
As of now the characters aren't as well-differentiated as they were in ME3. Some are uniquely effective (TSol, asari adept) but for the most part your success will be determined by the weapon you equip. Charger if you're new; Raptor if you've progressed to advanced packs; a few others once you get to a higher level (vanq, talon, equalizer, piranha, hurricane, and a few others).
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Post by kpeter on May 10, 2017 7:59:52 GMT
wtf is Tier S?
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Post by Kenny Bania on May 10, 2017 8:11:18 GMT
Any tier list you have now will more than likely be irrelevant later today.
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Post by niroz on May 10, 2017 8:32:24 GMT
If you type "s tier" into google and hit search, the very first search result is: " Usually if a video game has a ranking system in it S-Tier, or S-Rank (standing for Super, Sugoi, anything like that) is the highest tier/rank in the game."
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Post by Stinja on May 10, 2017 8:56:33 GMT
I remember "S tier" first from Gran Turismo (1), where it was the grade better than "A".
Definitely seems Japanese in origin, with one friend who lived over there saying it related to their school grading system, which had 秀 (Shu) as above A. Gaming companies carried it over I guess.
Also some games have tiers above S, like "SS", "SSS" and "SSSS", like weapons in Earth Defence Force and Armored Core, which are invariably rare and OP.
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Post by kpeter on May 10, 2017 8:56:58 GMT
If you type "s tier" into google and hit search, the very first search result is: " Usually if a video game has a ranking system in it S-Tier, or S-Rank (standing for Super, Sugoi, anything like that) is the highest tier/rank in the game." Ok in that case Tier S: Architect with Sweeper.
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Post by Pounce de León on May 10, 2017 9:18:02 GMT
Who cares? Just play what is the most fun for you.
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Post by neocodex and 23 others on May 10, 2017 9:25:46 GMT
No, Kroguards are overrated, there have been threads about this. Human Vanguard self-heal on melee hits is broken. Interesting origin trivia about S tier, designation is pretty common for me, guess I played too many Jap games. It's pretty much standard, and we also use this tier list in mobas (HOTS), we put in S tier whathever hero is considered broken OP in the current meta, e.g. first pick/first ban material (it's somewhat rare if the game is balanced there shouldn't be anything S tier). For example, most classes have 45-55% winrate in the game, but sometimes a new one will get released or buffed and becomes clearly overtuned resulting in 60-65% winrate and gets first banned in 90% of the games. That is S tier. Or for example, you could consider Ana in Overwatch to be S tier before her many nerfs.
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Post by squaredgonzo on May 10, 2017 9:41:07 GMT
1. Insurgent 2. Asari Adept 3. Turbo charge kit 4. Non melee insurgent (sticky nade build) 5. Human Infiltrator
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Post by Kenny Bania on May 10, 2017 9:44:03 GMT
1. Insurgent 2. Asari Adept 3. Turbo charge kit 4. Non melee insurgent (sticky nade build) 5. Human Infiltrator You mean the avenger, right?
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Post by Abramsrunner on May 10, 2017 9:46:47 GMT
1. Insurgent 2. Asari Adept 3. Turbo charge kit 4. Non melee insurgent (sticky nade build) 5. Human Infiltrator You mean the avenger, right? Its deadly on fullauto
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Post by KLGChaos on May 10, 2017 9:47:42 GMT
No, Kroguards are overrated, there have been threads about this. Human Vanguard self-heal on melee hits is broken. Interesting origin trivia about S tier, designation is pretty common for me, guess I played too many Jap games. It's pretty much standard, and we also use this tier list in mobas (HOTS), we put in S tier whathever hero is considered broken OP in the current meta, e.g. first pick/first ban material (it's somewhat rare if the game is balanced there shouldn't be anything S tier). For example, most classes have 45-55% winrate in the game, but sometimes a new one will get released or buffed and becomes clearly overtuned resulting in 60-65% winrate and gets first banned in 90% of the games. That is S tier. Or for example, you could consider Ana in Overwatch to be S tier before her many nerfs. Yeah, Barrier is currently much better than Rage. I enjoy using Shock Trooper on my human vanguard, but prefer Bastion on my KroGuard because I need the extra survivability.
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Post by squaredgonzo on May 10, 2017 9:51:56 GMT
You mean the avenger, right? Its deadly on fullauto I may or may not have been drinking when i typed that.
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Post by neocodex and 23 others on May 10, 2017 9:54:10 GMT
No, Kroguards are overrated, there have been threads about this. Human Vanguard self-heal on melee hits is broken. Interesting origin trivia about S tier, designation is pretty common for me, guess I played too many Jap games. It's pretty much standard, and we also use this tier list in mobas (HOTS), we put in S tier whathever hero is considered broken OP in the current meta, e.g. first pick/first ban material (it's somewhat rare if the game is balanced there shouldn't be anything S tier). For example, most classes have 45-55% winrate in the game, but sometimes a new one will get released or buffed and becomes clearly overtuned resulting in 60-65% winrate and gets first banned in 90% of the games. That is S tier. Or for example, you could consider Ana in Overwatch to be S tier before her many nerfs. Yeah, Barrier is currently much better than Rage. I enjoy using Shock Trooper on my human vanguard, but prefer Bastion on my KroGuard because I need the extra survivability. Plus, mobility, which Kroguard lacks. Times and times again proven back from ME3 mobility>hp.
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Post by fleagol on May 10, 2017 10:01:39 GMT
I usually pick a character and take it to level 20, so I haven´t tried all the characters by far, but in my experience..:
Angara Avenger is borderline OP. I 25-35k evrytim on gold, trivialises most objectives thanks to Stealth Grid, makes keeping your team alive easy, Armour enemies die super fast thanks to melee bonuses against armour and sticky nades, and racks up Support/Assist/Kills like your mom nails sailors at the weekend. Best class for points.
Asari duelists can facetank Hydras and Berserkers and almost everything once you learn their attack tells, you just iframe once they start an attack and refill your shields with charge. With a squad that primes, you set off explosions all the time with Charge/Lance and you can repay those motherfucking Observers with their bullshit using Backlash. Also, you have a sword. Oh, and you can fucking teleport. Absolutely ridiculous fun, totally chaotically awesome, my favourite class to play. Best class for action and fun.
The Human Kineticist is the class that is most difficult to master, but once you have a grip on keeping Ascended and using her zero-cooldown pull/throw effectively, it´s a total blast to play, you fuck up the battlefield. But yeah, super squishy, so requires a balanced, careful mastery of your shields and total mastery of the mechanics of the gameplay. Best class for feeling of mastery and satisfaction.
The Angara Insurgent has a skill called Shield Boost. This makes you borderline unkillable at rank 6, because with cooldown and duration upgrades it can stay up nearly 100% of the time, who could fuck up constantly refilling shields? You could, but ok. He also has trip mines which wreck shit like your fat ass wrecks sofas. And an assault turret to distract the enemy so they don´t even fucking attack you and your endlessly refilling shields anyway. Best class if you´re just totally shit at the game.
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Post by SalMasRac on May 10, 2017 10:08:34 GMT
As long as you don't pick Salarian Architect you should be fine. Though I've been levelling the Angaran with the Turret, Trip Mines, and Shield Boost, and he kinda sucks. I'd rather take the Salarian Operator for Shield Boosting.
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Post by Stinja on May 10, 2017 10:16:29 GMT
Angara Avenger is borderline OP.... trivialises most objectives thanks to Shield Grid Stealth Grid? Or Insurgent with Shield Boost?
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Post by fleagol on May 10, 2017 10:27:01 GMT
Angara Avenger is borderline OP.... trivialises most objectives thanks to Shield Grid Stealth Grid? Or Insurgent with Shield Boost? Stealth Grid! The Insurgent is further down the post. Edited for future historians.
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Post by Zerfidius on May 10, 2017 13:34:19 GMT
As long as you don't pick Salarian Architect you should be fine. Though I've been levelling the Angaran with the Turret, Trip Mines, and Shield Boost, and he kinda sucks. I'd rather take the Salarian Operator for Shield Boosting. Architect is fine on gold with priming barricade and detonating incinerate. I've been using the raptor though so maybe my perspective is skewed.
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