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Post by JRandall0308 on May 19, 2017 1:44:40 GMT
Billy Buskell (ehlien) on Reddit: www.reddit.com/r/MECoOp/comments/6bx75e/comment/dhql84pMy interpretation: Expert drop rate pre 1.07 was somehow wrong. Unclear if this means pity RNG or the overall drop rate. 1.07 was supposed to fix this but got borked and both Expert (too low) and Premium (too high?) were affected "briefly". They hot fixed again (after the "brief window") and now Experts and Premiums have the correct / desired drop rates. Now = roughly 5:45 pm Eastern / 10:45 pm UTC. Bioware wants to do something for the players who got incorrect drops during the "brief window". Personally I'm waiting for the dust to settle before I spend any credits.
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Post by xaijin on May 19, 2017 1:55:30 GMT
That doesn't really tell us if 1.04* was the right setup or if even if he means JUST expert or JUST premium
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Does he not understand this is going to be mined and displayed to all the Urf and if it's negative relative to what it was it's going to be ARMARGAR all over again...
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Post by jmac1424 on May 19, 2017 1:55:57 GMT
Of course, FUBAR
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Post by gethadept on May 19, 2017 2:54:17 GMT
Billy Buskell (ehlien) on Reddit: www.reddit.com/r/MECoOp/comments/6bx75e/comment/dhql84pMy interpretation: Expert drop rate pre 1.07 was somehow wrong. Unclear if this means pity RNG or the overall drop rate. 1.07 was supposed to fix this but got borked and both Expert (too low) and Premium (too high?) were affected "briefly". They hot fixed again (after the "brief window") and now Experts and Premiums have the correct / desired drop rates. Now = roughly 5:45 pm Eastern / 10:45 pm UTC. Bioware wants to do something for the players who got incorrect drops during the "brief window". Personally I'm waiting for the dust to settle before I spend any credits. BW CANNOT EVEN SET RNG STORE PROPERLY. BW IS PATHETIC.
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Post by Abramsrunner on May 19, 2017 2:55:50 GMT
#QualityBiowareProduct
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Post by onehitparry on May 19, 2017 3:09:55 GMT
Aw man, if they made the pity drop less frequent that will be bad news for me. I'm almost done maxing out my uncommons. Also yeah, I'm not a programmer, but I feel like RNG shouldn't be that difficult to implement.
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Post by varicite on May 19, 2017 3:32:49 GMT
Aw man, if they made the pity drop less frequent that will be bad news for me. I'm almost done maxing out my uncommons. Also yeah, I'm not a programmer, but I feel like RNG shouldn't be that difficult to implement. It's not exactly good news for anybody but EA...
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Post by niroz on May 19, 2017 3:57:50 GMT
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Post by crashsuit on May 19, 2017 4:17:44 GMT
*waves hand* these aren't the drop rates you're looking for
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Post by kalil on May 19, 2017 4:41:27 GMT
This is .... no .... I just ... no ....
Maybe... no....
As a professional software developer I just cannot find the right words. This THE ONE THING you were not allowed to fuck up.
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Post by Transcended One on May 19, 2017 4:47:50 GMT
Billy Buskell (ehlien) on Reddit: www.reddit.com/r/MECoOp/comments/6bx75e/comment/dhql84pMy interpretation: Expert drop rate pre 1.07 was somehow wrong. Unclear if this means pity RNG or the overall drop rate. 1.07 was supposed to fix this but got borked and both Expert (too low) and Premium (too high?) were affected "briefly". They hot fixed again (after the "brief window") and now Experts and Premiums have the correct / desired drop rates. Now = roughly 5:45 pm Eastern / 10:45 pm UTC. Bioware wants to do something for the players who got incorrect drops during the "brief window". Personally I'm waiting for the dust to settle before I spend any credits. Where would one of the "unfortunates" sign up? And what would be the intended drop rates? I wouldn't mind a higher one in Premiums personally, since that was all over the place.
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Post by Abramsrunner on May 19, 2017 4:58:58 GMT
This is .... no .... I just ... no .... Maybe... no.... As a professional software developer I just cannot find the right words. This THE ONE THING you were not allowed to fuck up.
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Post by Kenny Bania on May 19, 2017 5:47:04 GMT
People spent real money on incorrect drop rates. That sounds pretty fucked up to me.
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Post by OneWomanArmy on May 19, 2017 5:49:13 GMT
People spent real money on incorrect drop rates. That sounds pretty fucked up to me. You know I was just thinking the same thing. I wonder if they're gonna refund people those money back, I mean I know they aren't but it's a hell of a screw over imo.
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Post by q5tyhj on May 19, 2017 5:50:09 GMT
^ Biovar will probably just give them a couple level II XP boosters or something
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Post by kalil on May 19, 2017 5:54:54 GMT
People spent real money on incorrect drop rates. That sounds pretty fucked up to me. You know I was just thinking the same thing. I wonder if they're gonna refund people those money back, I mean I know they aren't but it's a hell of a screw over imo. They could refund the andromeda points. But they wont.
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Post by Abramsrunner on May 19, 2017 5:57:11 GMT
They'll give them 1 newly "fixed" Expert Pack.
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Post by TormDK on May 19, 2017 6:00:10 GMT
People spent real money on incorrect drop rates. That sounds pretty fucked up to me. You know I was just thinking the same thing. I wonder if they're gonna refund people those money back, I mean I know they aren't but it's a hell of a screw over imo. Seems unlikely, there were no garantees made in public to begin with. (Aka, how would the buyer had known?)
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Post by vanshishogaku on May 19, 2017 6:10:47 GMT
I hope they fix Premiums. When I maxed everything up to rares, first thing was that I saved up for 10 Premiums. Dropped zero UR, bought only Experts since then.
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Post by Uchimura on May 19, 2017 6:13:52 GMT
Buy-aware
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Post by rolenka on May 19, 2017 6:22:00 GMT
This makes me think the pity drop was supposed to be 1 every 20 on expert so that the 1 every 10 on premium doesn't make premium hot shit in a box.
If this were good news, they could have said so while still being vague. They would have.
And yeah, you would think getting the store right would be an experienced programmer's only job until it's done, then they would run simulations and check the results. Obviously they didn't.
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Post by Uchimura on May 19, 2017 9:46:53 GMT
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Post by vanguard4 on May 19, 2017 10:02:47 GMT
First of all: Even Random Number generators in Operating Systems ( were they are used in a much more important manner, like cryptographic keys ) are sometimes faulty and produce pseudo random numbers. You´d be surprised how hard it is to be really random. Second: Usually drop rates are done by a weighting system - i.e. for every item you add to the drop list with a specific weight the weighting produces different results. Without information as to what really went wrong, all this could mean is that now the mods are dropping sooner than before were all we got when buying packs until now was characters and weapons first, i.e. they fixed the weight of the mods in question. ( Assuming you´d only have 2 mods compared to 17 weapons, the chance to get a mod would be 2 in 19 - maybe now the mods are "heavier", so every mod has a weight of 3. This´d mean to get a mod would be 6 in 23. ) Thirdly: With Biowares information policy, we will probably never find out what exactly they did ( they couldn´t even compile a complete list the last patch ) and IF it was to the detriment of customer´s they will never tell. This is why I liked the Chinese law about having to publicize the drop rates of loot boxes in Video games so much.
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Post by Whoateallmypasghetti on May 19, 2017 10:36:40 GMT
Is there one part of this game that is actually working as intended or is it just one yuge bug?
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Post by Kazu on May 19, 2017 11:11:16 GMT
Wait wait wait wait, so drop rates have been fixed again after 1.07 was released to fix the drop drates?
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