Maxed Manifest (non-paid, pre-Patch 1.09).

People who do challenges and play silvers and bronzes to do them and level characters, and people who blue screen, occasionally wipe in pug ketts, and so on can expect 600 hours or so for a maxed manifest. The more strict gold and apex missions you do can lower it to 500.

Basically I've been playing only Gold since day 3 in the game. And only Gold Apex since I realized they are repeatable and the bonuses too good to pass.

500k per UR is not the best drop rate, but actually the worst. I did get the bulk of my UR manifest buying Expert Packs after knowing about the guaranteed drop by the 10th pack. Something like from 119 to go down all the way to 20 to go.
While Premium Packs seem to be way more random, most statistics are pointing out to something like 400k per pack.
Also, I hid one piece of information here: I did spend a little money early on. 2150+1050 Andromeda points. Enough points for 7 Premium Packs + 1 Expert Packs. Got 2 UR which were useless given how weak they used to be before the buff. Still, people who have bought the Super Deluxe Edition might have gotten their 8 or so Premium packs by now, so I guess that makes me even-ish with then.

Anyway, your math is using values that are too high, above average. Setting values between 400-500k per UR would have been more realistic.

And glitching? Lol. I am one of the most anti-glitch people there is in this forum. People who know me from this game or DAIMP know that well.

I am at 424 hours (Apex HQ) and 6 UR to go. It might sound too good to be true, but apparently no one else around here who have posted so far is close to maxing a manifest purely by grinding Gold from the beginning other than me - so I guess my numbers have to weigh more than your conjectures. My intention with this thread is to gather truthful information from others who might be were I am manifest-wise, so we don't need to go for conjectures such as 600 hours or 1000 hours.

As noted, it will take you about 450 to max playing NOTHING but golds with bonus credits. The typical person will play regular gold games, do silver games and possibly even challenges. Not everyone will just repeat apex missions 20 times in a row and extrapolating data and adjusting for other factors is not conjecture. If you play a lot of gold and mix some things up you are looking at 600 hours. If it takes you longer you played too much bronze/silver (and really suck at the game as sooner or later you should probably move to a higher level).

You are taking a very static cost of UR into account, forgetting that those are random, and for people like me who made the most out of the Expert Packs back when they rewarded a guaranteed UR, 500k credits per UR is not the best case scenario, but rather the worst one. An extremely unlucky player would have to pay 500k per UR. A not so unlucky one might have be paying less. I got most of them on my 10th pack, but I also got some on the 7th, 6th and even 3rd.

Overall we are looking at smaller figures per UR, more in the range of 400 - 450k. Sometimes even less.

When I got into the game, I played two days of Bronze/Silver. And for some back in the first week, even that was a lot of time spent in the lower levels.

And 20 Gold Apex missions is a row is hardly a biggie for the teams I play with. On an average night, we go way further than that.

Is it fun to grind like that? Just asking, not trying to be an asshole.

You are assuming someone is OCD enough to farm the same enemy over and over again 7 hours a day... for 2 straight months. Also from someone with a maxed manifest, it is about 500K per UR...the rates ARE NO BETTER THAN THAT. That is the not the worst possible rate and it is just stupid to think otherwise. The data clearly shows this.


You played 7 hours a day of repeating gold apex missions the last 60 straight days then came and bragged about being the world's biggest loser on the internet. This coming from a guy with 300 hours....I played WAY WAY WAY WAY too much. No one is going to max like you. It takes a regular person about 600 hours.

Go back to eating your beans and your imaginary girlfriend now.

OP said he has 420h Displayed by ApexHQ, im sure this app counts time spent in games, because i have 200h difrence between Origin time and ApexHQ time - didnt played SP. 420h is exactly the time needed.

85500000 Total Credits for Whole manifest, Common + Uncommon + Rare + UR ( Base calculcation with 400k per UR, seems right with guy who did full manifest with 880 premium packs )
1554            Total Games Needed, 55k per one
1554 * 1/4 hour = 388 Total hours needed.

That can be done under 350h if you hurry

word glitch shouldnt appear here, or he was afking hundreds hour during match.

This is the only thing people really need to know.

If there are dedicated players playing together only for maximum efficiency... This game is really really easy. Really Really easy.

Data clearly shows it takes 500k per UR? What data?
It took maximum 10 Expert Pack per UR. Maximum, not minimum nor average. While the average is not that far from it, if we are talking about 9 Pack per UR, that is some serious difference number-wise.

And there is also the Premium Pack drops, which I have bought to earn more than 40% of my URs. Here is some data on that. Nowhere near 500k per drop.

While it should take me just over two months to max my manifest, the fact is that is it takes less than 600 hours to max a manifest by grinding gold runs, more in the range of 450-ish hours. Some people can play that in 2 months, some in 3 months, some in 12 months; but that is what one should be looking at when it comes to maxing a manifest with very little to no money invested there.

Now you purchased your manifest with real world cash and for some reason is going all nuts and throwing insults on my thread which is clearly not aimed at people like you. Am I the loser/OCD dude here, really?

Actually come to think of it there is only one person that I know that has a max manifest and that's Drasca. Last time I saw him I asked him how his manifest was doing and he told me he maxed it out - I am unsure whether he had purely ground it out or used some andromeda points.

Don't think he visits here, that I am aware of, but the next time I see him on Twitch I'll ask.

I've been playing MP since pre-launch. The RGN decided to max out my krogan gladiator which I do not use All UR weapons have been unlocked and are rank 2+. Still missing the salarian op and angara avenger, which i need so i can finish part of the mastery. it's frustrating not having those two after all this time

Oh, and i have not paid to purchase crates I don't grind or play a specific enemy/map. I'm more focused on the mastery so i'm constantly using a new weapon and playing slightly differently based on the weapon. as long as we extract, i'm fine with it

I pretty much outlined the worst case scenario two months ago...

bsn.boards.net/thread/7149/grind-max-manifest-breakdown

Average 20 gold games per day for 100 days. GG

PS. My 84 hours got me a pretty decent manifest. Only missing one UR character. Just a few weapons. Almost all uncommon are maxed and my rates are all 5+.

But, this games progression blows. At least with DAMP the hardest difficulty was tough two months in. PUGing was fun. MEA is just a chore to PuG. You basically have to solo. In a group it's too easy. Not sure how they can fix those issues tho.