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Post by dabbler77 on Jun 8, 2017 18:44:59 GMT
Joined a game in progress at Wave 4 and I only received 23,500 credits; not the usual 55,000. It looks like credits received is now like ME3MP where it is based on how many waves that YOU actually complete and not what wave the team made it to.
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Post by poultrymancer on Jun 8, 2017 18:48:46 GMT
Surprised it took this long.
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Post by gethadept on Jun 8, 2017 18:49:03 GMT
This is a truly stupid change. They are technically telling people to not join on-going game... sigh..... I guess at least this will remove some of those solo starters.  |
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Post by Kenny Bania on Jun 8, 2017 18:51:01 GMT
Yeah, just posted about a game where I crashed in wave 7, and got ~50k credits afterwards. Why wasn't it like this from the fucking start?
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Post by jloco11 on Jun 8, 2017 18:52:07 GMT
I stopped joining rooms in progress before this change....mainly because my assumption was always someone dropped from a laggy room and I was getting sent into a shitty connection.
Now I REALLY have no incentive to join a room in progress. While I understand the change, I'm also making the decision not to join these rooms.
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Post by gethadept on Jun 8, 2017 18:52:38 GMT
Yeah, just posted about a game where I crashed in wave 7, and got ~50k credits afterwards. Why wasn't it like this from the fucking start? Maybe because we cannot tell what waves they are going through...? Just to be fair, I mean.. |
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Post by kaileena_sands on Jun 8, 2017 18:55:40 GMT
So wait, what happens now if for example I play with friends, crash/DC on wave 6 and return on wave 7 (private lobby)? Do I lose everything (apart from a small sum for wave 7)?
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Post by Schachmatt123 on Jun 8, 2017 18:58:55 GMT
Yeah, just posted about a game where I crashed in wave 7, and got ~50k credits afterwards. Why wasn't it like this from the fucking start? This is good for people who crashes/disconnects. But for joining a GIP, this is a mess. Only received 15 k for playing the last 3 waves in a Kett game (5-7), the hardest waves while almost soloing the devices during wave 6. For joining a wave 7 GIP I got absolutely nothing. Even though I extracted, used 2 gels and revived fallen teammates. Sorry, this is crap. In 3 the reduced payout for GIP was at least transparent. Extraction bonus and the payout for each participated objective wave. |
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Post by poultrymancer on Jun 8, 2017 19:00:22 GMT
This is a truly stupid change. They are technically telling people to not join on-going game... sigh..... I guess at least this will remove some of those solo starters. Ummm, what? This doesn't punish or disincentivize late joins in any way. You just no longer get paid for the fruits of others' work. |
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Post by gethadept on Jun 8, 2017 19:03:02 GMT
This is a truly stupid change. They are technically telling people to not join on-going game... sigh..... I guess at least this will remove some of those solo starters. Ummm, what? This doesn't punish or disincentivize late joins in any way. You just no longer get paid for the fruits of others' work. I know. 1. I will be annoyed everytime I get dropped in on-going games now. 2. I won`t use any consumables for them. That`s all. It`s just annoying. but I guess some people are OK when they are losing out from new change. I guess I am OK too. I just have to avoid them. |
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Post by Schachmatt123 on Jun 8, 2017 19:04:42 GMT
This is a truly stupid change. They are technically telling people to not join on-going game... sigh..... I guess at least this will remove some of those solo starters. Ummm, what? This doesn't punish or disincentivize late joins in any way. You just no longer get paid for the fruits of others' work. As I said before, it's an unfair change. If I join a Kett game during wave 5 (start of wave 5) GIP I deserve more than 15k. It's not even 30 %, and these waves are harder than the first 4 waves. |
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Post by gethadept on Jun 8, 2017 19:05:25 GMT
Ummm, what? This doesn't punish or disincentivize late joins in any way. You just no longer get paid for the fruits of others' work. As I said before, it's an unfair change. If I join a Kett game during wave 5 (start of wave 5) GIP I deserve more than 15k. It's not even 30 %, and these waves are harder than the first 4 waves. Kett wave 1-2 is like silver and easiest among all gold waves. lol |
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Post by Gya on Jun 8, 2017 19:05:49 GMT
So wait, what happens now if for example I play with friends, crash/DC on wave 6 and return on wave 7 (private lobby)? Do I lose everything (apart from a small sum for wave 7)? This. They seem able to track score just fine if you crash and rejoin, so I suppose as long as you don't miss an entire wave, I'd hope they could apply the same tracking to credits. |
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Post by poultrymancer on Jun 8, 2017 19:20:42 GMT
Ummm, what? This doesn't punish or disincentivize late joins in any way. You just no longer get paid for the fruits of others' work. As I said before, it's an unfair change. If I join a Kett game during wave 5 (start of wave 5) GIP I deserve more than 15k. It's not even 30 %, and these waves are harder than the first 4 waves. I could see an argument for it being unfair with ME3 mechanics, given that you would routinely get thrown into games in progress when trying to join random lobbies. In MEA, if you don't like it, don't effin' join. It's not even remotely "unfair;" you just won't get something for free anymore as you are accustomed. |
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Post by ddrguy300 on Jun 8, 2017 19:22:03 GMT
This is a truly stupid change. They are technically telling people to not join on-going game... sigh..... I guess at least this will remove some of those solo starters. ^This. Hopefully they revert this. |
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Post by gethadept on Jun 8, 2017 19:23:56 GMT
As I said before, it's an unfair change. If I join a Kett game during wave 5 (start of wave 5) GIP I deserve more than 15k. It's not even 30 %, and these waves are harder than the first 4 waves. I could see an argument for it being unfair with ME3 mechanics, given that you would routinely get thrown into games in progress when trying to join random lobbies. I'm MEA, if you don't like it, don't effin' join. It's not even remotely "unfair;" you just won't get something for free anymore as you are accustomed. Just on side note... I will miss that occasional awesome 4th player joining the game and turning the tide... lol |
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Post by Schachmatt123 on Jun 8, 2017 19:30:20 GMT
As I said before, it's an unfair change. If I join a Kett game during wave 5 (start of wave 5) GIP I deserve more than 15k. It's not even 30 %, and these waves are harder than the first 4 waves. I could see an argument for it being unfair with ME3 mechanics, given that you would routinely get thrown into games in progress when trying to join random lobbies. I'm MEA, if you don't like it, don't effin' join. It's not even remotely "unfair;" you just won't get something for free anymore as you are accustomed. I just joined a GIP during wave one (20 seconds in) and only received 44k for a full extraction. That's fair? I topscored and did most of the objectives alone. And how should I know if it's really a game in progress? Three guys could've just readied up. I also joined lobbies where the host was ready and two others not. I readied up only to learn that the host has already started alone. With no way to know if it's really a GIP, this is crap. In ME3, you got a fair payout when you joined GIP's depending on the objective waves attended. In Andromeda, it's unfair. I also suspect that you don't receive any extraction bonus at all for joining GIP's. So your post is pointless. |
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Post by varicite on Jun 8, 2017 19:31:47 GMT
This is a truly stupid change. They are technically telling people to not join on-going game... sigh..... I guess at least this will remove some of those solo starters. Issue is that you don't really know it's in progress until after you join. |
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Post by kalas on Jun 8, 2017 19:34:16 GMT
This is a truly stupid change. They are technically telling people to not join on-going game... sigh..... I guess at least this will remove some of those solo starters. ^This. Hopefully they revert this. do we still get the full exp? i join with lv1s since they cant kick me. |
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Post by gethadept on Jun 8, 2017 19:35:30 GMT
^This. Hopefully they revert this. do we still get the full exp? i join with lv1s since they cant kick me. haha i`m sure xp will be fine. They can still kick you but they can`t tell if you are level 1  |
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Post by Schachmatt123 on Jun 8, 2017 19:38:14 GMT
^This. Hopefully they revert this. do we still get the full exp? i join with lv1s since they cant kick me. Nope. Only got 30k for a wave 5 join, and absolutely zero for a wave 7 join. |
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Post by gethadept on Jun 8, 2017 19:38:14 GMT
I could see an argument for it being unfair with ME3 mechanics, given that you would routinely get thrown into games in progress when trying to join random lobbies. I'm MEA, if you don't like it, don't effin' join. It's not even remotely "unfair;" you just won't get something for free anymore as you are accustomed. I just joined a GIP during wave one (20 seconds in) and only received 44k for a full extraction. That's fair? I topscored and did most of the objectives alone. And how should I know if it's really a game in progress? Three guys could've just readied up. I also had joined lobbies where the host was ready and two others not. I readied up only to learn that the host has already started alone. With no way to know if it's really a GIP, this is crap. In ME3, you got a fair payout when you joined GIP's depending on the objective waves attended. In Andromeda, it's unfair. I also suspect that you don't receive any extraction bonus at all for joining GIP's. So your post is pointless. Clear conclusion is that... the players gain nothing from this change. Nobody gains and that`s not even the worst part. THE WORST PART IS THAT THIS GAME`S MATCH MAKING SYSTEM DOES NOT GIVE YOU OPTION TO AVOID THE ON-GOING GAMES AT ALL. ..yet some players are positive about this change... and it kinda scares me.... |
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Post by poultrymancer on Jun 8, 2017 19:39:30 GMT
I could see an argument for it being unfair with ME3 mechanics, given that you would routinely get thrown into games in progress when trying to join random lobbies. I'm MEA, if you don't like it, don't effin' join. It's not even remotely "unfair;" you just won't get something for free anymore as you are accustomed. I just joined a GIP during wave one (20 seconds in) and only received 44k for a full extraction. That's fair? I topscored and did most of the objectives alone. And how should I know if it's really a game in progress? Three guys could've just readied up. I also had joined lobbies where the host was ready and two others not. I readied up only to learn that the host has already started alone. With no way to know if it's really a GIP, this is crap. In ME3, you got a fair payout when you joined GIP's depending on the objective waves attended. In Andromeda, it's unfair. I also suspect that you don't receive any extraction bonus at all for joining GIP's. So your post is pointless. You're right, I retract my entire argument. BiowEAr is unfair, monstrous, and just plain mean. This is a gross miscarriage of justice. I'm sure you'd have been able to feed your family and pay for 'lil Timmy's operation if only you'd gotten those extra 11k credits you were "owed." Shall I spoon you while we weep together, or would you rather be alone in your time of grief? |
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Post by Schachmatt123 on Jun 8, 2017 19:43:07 GMT
You're right, I retract my entire argument. BiowEAr is unfair, monstrous, and just plain mean. This is a gross miscarriage of justice. I'm sure you'd have been able to feed your family and pay for 'lil Timmy's operation if only you'd gotten those extra 11k credits you were "owed." Shall I spoon you while we weep together, or would you rather be alone in your time of grief? You don't have any arguments and start shitposting? How very mature of you. You've lost an argument, now grow up. |
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Post by poultrymancer on Jun 8, 2017 19:46:26 GMT
I just joined a GIP during wave one (20 seconds in) and only received 44k for a full extraction. That's fair? I topscored and did most of the objectives alone. And how should I know if it's really a game in progress? Three guys could've just readied up. I also had joined lobbies where the host was ready and two others not. I readied up only to learn that the host has already started alone. With no way to know if it's really a GIP, this is crap. In ME3, you got a fair payout when you joined GIP's depending on the objective waves attended. In Andromeda, it's unfair. I also suspect that you don't receive any extraction bonus at all for joining GIP's. So your post is pointless. Clear conclusion is that... the players gain nothing from this change. Nobody gains and that`s not even the worst part. THE WORST PART IS THAT THIS GAME`S MATCH MAKING SYSTEM DOES NOT GIVE YOU OPTION TO AVOID THE ON-GOING GAMES AT ALL. ..yet some players are positive about this change... and it kinda scares me.... Positive? I haven't seen anyone actually celebrating this change. I will however plead guilty to the lesser charge of being indifferent to this change and tired of the ceaseless whining on a day when we got a sweet suite of buffs and other goodies. Do you though, I guess. There's no reason I need to post here, so I'll kindly vacate the thread and leave you to comiserate and lament your loss in peace. |
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