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Post by cmdrshep2183 on Nov 23, 2017 5:56:54 GMT
Were Dungeons and Dragons players to be feared? If people found out you played DND would they avoid you?
In the 80s if a community found out a football playing son of an important politician or some other powerful person liked sci fi space opera and his popular daughter liked Tolkien how would the community react?
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Post by Cyonan on Nov 23, 2017 6:04:29 GMT
Some people still make a big deal out of it today, especially if you game on Friday or Saturday night instead of going out and partying every weekend.
I however have put a lot of skill ranks into "Not giving a fuck", so I'm good.
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Post by river82 on Nov 23, 2017 6:14:29 GMT
Were Dungeons and Dragons players to be feared? If people found out you played DND would they avoid you? In the 80s if a community found out a football playing son of an important politician or some other powerful person liked sci fi space opera and his popular daughter liked Tolkien how would the community react? Fantasy and DnD were dismissed. Fantasy wasn't a REAL genre, and DnD was just silly stuff kids did. Fantasy and DnD have a LOT more recognition now than they did back then. Patrick Rothfuss wrote something interesting about those times: Remember what year this was. It was 1995. This was before Harry Potter was written. Before Neil Gaiman wrote Neverwhere.
Pixar has just released its first movie. There was no Matrix. No Sixth Sense. No Lord of The Rings movies. Pan’s Labyrinth and Hellboy were a decade away.
There was no Game of Thrones on HBO. Hell, there wasn’t even Legend of the Seeker. Buffy the Vampire Slayer was 2 years away, and even more years from being recognized as brilliant television, rather than silly fluff with vampires.
I had been writing my fantasy novel for about two years, and while I loved fantasy, I knew deep down, it was something I should feel ashamed of. Fantasy novels were the books I read as a kid, and people picked on me for it. There were no classes on the subject at the University. I knew deep down in my bones that no matter how much I happened to love fantasy, it was all silly bullshit.
Even these days, people look down on fantasy. They think of it as kid stuff. They dismiss it as worthless. They say not real literature. People say that *NOW* despite the fact that Game of Thrones and The Hobbit and Avengers and Harry Potter are bigger than The Beatles.
That’s NOW. If you weren’t around back then, you really can’t begin to understand how much worse it was. When I told people I was working on a fantasy novel, a lot of people wouldn’t even really know what I was talking about.
I would say, “I’m writing a fantasy novel” and people would look at me with earnest confusion and concern in their eyes, and they would say, “Why?” Then I read that article, and it filled me with hope. With pride.
blog.patrickrothfuss.com/2015/08/thoughts-on-pratchett/
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Post by mattig89ch on Nov 23, 2017 16:39:02 GMT
There are people who view D&D as demon worship or something. That when you 'cast spells' in the game, you have to actually cast spells irl. And to get out of dying, DM's make their players give them sexual favors of one kind or another.
in 2007, I was shown a comic from a church organization, where they showed these exact things happening. Thankfully, they insinuated the sexual favors thing, and stopped before that started happening. But the comic actually showed fire/ice leaping from a players hands, and a pentagram with the players playing around it. I didn't believe people believed this, until I saw that comic.
I wish I could say I was joking here, but I'm actually not. Thats why teachers can't post about the games they play on social media. Parents might think they're actually doing devil worship or something.
Edit: mind you, I've never actually met one of these people.
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Post by House Targaryen on Nov 24, 2017 13:04:29 GMT
DnD was evil and morally corrupt, bad influence on youth back then. It taught kids to cast spells, pretend to be something they're not and to kill things. Very bad.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 13:34:01 GMT
Not in Canada, as far as I know. My husband played DnD in high school in a club organized by one of his teachers. In the States, maybe?
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Post by Beerfish on Nov 24, 2017 15:22:41 GMT
D&D was fun, it also kept a group of friends together for a few years after high school was over.
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Post by mybudgee on Nov 24, 2017 16:26:51 GMT
Not in Canada, as far as I know. My husband played DnD in high school in a club organized by one of his teachers. In the States, maybe? Americans are ridiculous. Christian Puritanism has ruined more good things than Herpes *shame intensifies*
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Nov 24, 2017 16:33:06 GMT
Yes.
Didn't stop us, and our parents laughed at the hysteria. Because it was laughable.
Turns out libtard parents don't buy conservatard fearmongering. All tards are not created equal.
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Post by nanotm on Nov 24, 2017 16:42:38 GMT
if you were into lit rpg or just rpg you were a social pariah in every other circle, consequently most of the geek groups gravitated towards becoming something new and feared for "weird factor"
it amazed me that for playing fantasy games we became socially despised and as a consequence had to hide our involvement (this then inspired the real loons to start dressing up for games nights....) now as an adult i don't care i play whatever game takes my fancy and enjoy it as a kid i moved between game groups based on which bit of skirt i fancied XD, i was already a social pariah for being a nerd who lived on a farm went shooting, rode horses, and was a canoe instructor through the scouts held a mixed martial arts certificate and refused to fight people.... my entire year group wanted to murder me or fuck me or both, and when i became the school cross country champion with a staggering 11 minute time lead that only got worse:P when i suffered an illness in the senior year and took 7 months off school literally the only people i saw were my doctors and my parents for 4 months... when i passed enough exams to get a degree course in electromechanical engineering (at a time when robotics meant ladder logic and cnc meant c+ because nothing else had hit the mainstream, oh such joys) i was accused of cheating... i neglected to mention i was taking the exams a year early just to get out of school because i hated it, i loved games groups because nobody there cared about you they just cared for the escape, when i joined the military i left all those teenage joys behind, when i left the military the first thing i did was plug in to some major time sink mmorpg's.....
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Post by mybudgee on Nov 24, 2017 16:54:42 GMT
When "good intentions" go ... a bit off of the rails
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 16:55:03 GMT
You can check it out for yourself on Twitter. It's on mostly during the weekends but some play during the weekday also. A lot of the people that play look like your daily run of the mill ordinary folks. I dabbled in it during the late 80's but never really got in to it.
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Post by Beerfish on Nov 24, 2017 16:56:00 GMT
Our elf searches for secret doors. (rolls 20 sider....14)
You find a secret door in the eastern wall of the tomb, what do you do?
My dwarf equips his battle and and stands ready.
My elf steps back from the door and equips her bow.
My mage gets out his wand of frost.
My Paladin will detect evil and then slowly open the door.
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Post by Cyonan on Nov 24, 2017 17:16:07 GMT
Our elf searches for secret doors. (rolls 20 sider....14) You find a secret door in the eastern wall of the tomb, what do you do? My dwarf equips his battle and and stands ready. My elf steps back from the door and equips her bow. My mage gets out his wand of frost. My Paladin will detect evil and then slowly open the door. With my group it's more like: You find a secret door in the eastern wall of the tomb, what do you do? Paladin: I run up and open the door! Me whispering to GM: I'm gonna check for traps real quick GM: It's trapped, wanna warn him? Me: Nah I'm good. He'll never learn otherwise. GM: The Paladin falls into a pit of spikes Remember kids: Always let the Rogue check for traps first.
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Post by Beerfish on Nov 24, 2017 17:24:35 GMT
Our elf searches for secret doors. (rolls 20 sider....14) You find a secret door in the eastern wall of the tomb, what do you do? My dwarf equips his battle and and stands ready. My elf steps back from the door and equips her bow. My mage gets out his wand of frost. My Paladin will detect evil and then slowly open the door. With my group it's more like: You find a secret door in the eastern wall of the tomb, what do you do? Paladin: I run up and open the door! Me whispering to GM: I'm gonna check for traps real quick GM: It's trapped, wanna warn him? Me: Nah I'm good. He'll never learn otherwise. GM: The Paladin falls into a pit of spikes Remember kids: Always let the Rogue check for traps first. Ha! had the exact same thing happen to our group and yes it was a paladin as well, the went up to a huge iron door to listen before checking for traps, the door was trapped and fell on him, he rode on the mule for the rest of the gaming session.
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Post by oliviawilde on Nov 24, 2017 17:24:55 GMT
I was pretty into pencil and paper RPG's and strategic board games, but was already a "social outcast" before that
and yes always let the thief/rogue check for traps first
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Post by SofaJockey on Nov 24, 2017 17:25:48 GMT
I was in a D&D campaign 1983-85 many weekends, aged c.20. A ton of fun. Squared paper a few metal figures and a pot of dice. It probably wasn't the coolest hobby, but it was fine to do.
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Post by nanotm on Nov 24, 2017 20:16:11 GMT
I was in a D&D campaign 1983-85 many weekends, aged c.20. A ton of fun. Squared paper a few metal figures and a pot of dice. It probably wasn't the coolest hobby, but it was fine to do. i sold my eclectic collection of rare games pieces and cards when i was first in the military, some of the really into it nerds were paying more than a months salary for a single piece, i spent pretty much all of it enjoying life to the full, of course i got in trouble for having more money than a young bucko private should have had access to, for reference my wage was £450 take home, and i was dumbly spending roughly 10 x that amount for a few months... if only i'd kept some of it i might of had a nicer wedding.... then again if i hadn't been such a party animal maybe i wouldn't of settled down as fast as i did and been married at 19 lol... of course were still together so i must have gotten something right even if i was shit with money if only i had kept them that gear would be worth millions on the market today / of course had i kept it chances are it would of been stolen or destroyed in one of the 20 house moves i went through during my career/
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Post by masterwarderz on Nov 24, 2017 20:35:54 GMT
No idea, I started playing in the late 90s(my late teens to early twenties) in university, there was it was sort of a social stigma but it wasn't all that overt, and it was only from a handful of other social cliques on campus.
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Post by oliviawilde on Nov 24, 2017 23:58:36 GMT
No idea, I started playing in the late 90s(my late teens to early twenties) in university, there was it was sort of a social stigma but it wasn't all that overt, and it was only from a handful of other social cliques on campus. D&D got mainstreamed about the time Wizards of the Coast bought TSR in 1997
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Post by Iakus on Nov 25, 2017 0:28:25 GMT
In the early 80s a LARP-er Suffering from depression went off the grid and later commited suicide. This was later popularized by the books www.amazon.com/dp/0395355362?tag=viglink20248-20 and the fictionalized account www.amazon.com/dp/0440055369?tag=viglink20248-20 . The later was made into a movie (starring a young Tom Hanks) www.amazon.com/dp/B000BGQUHA?tag=viglink20248-20The victim's mother was absolutely certain that D&D was the problem (not his mental issues or drug addiction of course)Thus the rumor started getting spread that D&D was some sort of cult, or at least the initiation into one. There is also the infamous Chick Tract comic "Darkest Dungeon which portrayed D&D as,well, devil-worship and causes people to lose their grasp of reality. Seriously, that comic would be funny if the writer wasn't 100% serious about what he was writing. I was just a kid when this all went down, I didn't get into D&D until the mid-90s myself
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Post by masterwarderz on Nov 25, 2017 8:19:28 GMT
No idea, I started playing in the late 90s(my late teens to early twenties) in university, there was it was sort of a social stigma but it wasn't all that overt, and it was only from a handful of other social cliques on campus. D&D got mainstreamed about the time Wizards of the Coast bought TSR in 1997 Speaking of second edition it's a trash heap of a game module. It was third and 3.5 that kept me playing throughout the 2000s Though I admit given I took a decade-long Hiatus from the game I do somewhat appreciate 5th edition as well
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Nov 25, 2017 8:32:54 GMT
D&D players exposed.
So many harmful magic in these settings!
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Post by vonuber on Nov 25, 2017 11:18:23 GMT
It was more heroquest and warhammer in the UK I think.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2017 14:33:39 GMT
good to see all the DnD cultists and heretics have revealed themselves. Now, down to business.
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