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Post by warden on May 9, 2018 14:19:59 GMT
It will depend on how it impacts future SP games. They last ones leaved me with a cold/indifferent taste so if the trend follows I guess it will be time to say goodbye and move on. Some started since Baldur's Gate, I came with the KOTOR wave, so it has been a long ride.
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Post by Basquemercat117 on May 9, 2018 17:56:07 GMT
My view of bioware isnt currently negative, i just feel that it would be more of bioware getting its grove back.
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Post by Kedan on May 21, 2018 18:35:50 GMT
No change based on Anthem's success, specifically. It will depend on how EA/BioWare reacts to the critical response that will inform my future opinion of BioWare as a developer. What critical response would that be? The critical response to Anthem once it's released. I apologize if that wasn't clear.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on May 22, 2018 1:40:49 GMT
What critical response would that be? The critical response to Anthem once it's released. I apologize if that wasn't clear. It's just that "critical response" can be read either as "negative response" or "collective opinion of critics/reviewers". I take it you meant the latter?
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Post by melbella on May 22, 2018 3:02:28 GMT
I voted "no change" since I'm not interested in it one way or the other. If it is a success (or failure) that moves DA4 out even further or to never-land, then it will be a negative to me.
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Post by Hrungr on May 22, 2018 5:23:58 GMT
I can't say my opinion of BioWare would change (as it's not negative in general), it'd be more... relief I think than anything else. But... okay. If Anthem manages to pull out all stops and turns out be just mindblowingly awesome, that would elevate my opinion of BW as a whole.
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Post by Kedan on May 22, 2018 7:57:36 GMT
The critical response to Anthem once it's released. I apologize if that wasn't clear. It's just that "critical response" can be read either as "negative response" or "collective opinion of critics/reviewers". I take it you meant the latter? Yes.
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Post by Sumerian Physics on May 25, 2018 16:51:29 GMT
My opinion of BioWare is too complicated for one game to change it.
As a kid/adolescent, I got into video games playing Super Mario Bros and Duck Hunting, graduated to the PS1 playing Crusaders of Might and Magic and Harry Potter. Up to the Gamecube for Zelda and Mario Party and Freedom Fighters. By the time I was like 11, I'd played a ton of video games. For Christmas I got an XBOX, Serious Sam, Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance, and TWO Star Wars games (cuz I was and am the biggest star wars nerd in any given 10 mile radius and my mother knew this): Star Wars Obi-Wan & Knights of the Old Republic. KOTOR was the first RPG I spent 9,999,999 hours playing. It totally transformed my relationship with video games. That was BioWare. They kept it going with games like KOTOR2, Mass Effect and then Dragon Age: Origins. And at every point in my life when I'd taken a long break from gaming - it was a BioWare game that brought me back. Mass Effect 2, Dragon Age: Origins and recently Dragon Age: Inquisition.
That's a long winded way of saying that I'll probably always have a soft-spot for BioWare. Their intellectual property is ingrained into the nostalgia of my childhood. And like most things of nostalgia, there's that bittersweet feeling that things will never be as good as memory serves. And that's where I am with BioWare right now. If anything, BioWare will only worsen my opinion of BioWare (succesful or not) because it's not the kind of game I know and love from BioWare. It reminds me more of Bungie. Right now I feel like BioWare is never going to produce that singular game that gets me back into an obsessive zone of gaming addiction again. Maybe Dragon Age 4 will be that game - if it ever even happens. And that's how much faith I have left in BioWare: I'm not 100% sure that they'll even produce another installment in their best franchise. Dragon Age 4 could be like KOTOR 3. I'm 80% sure it won't happen. But no, games like Anthem don't help
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Post by wright1978 on May 27, 2018 8:56:18 GMT
Probably worse as it would mean more and more focus away from single player RPG storytelling.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on May 27, 2018 13:23:58 GMT
They'll continue to be my favorite company no matter what happens.
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Post by General Mahad on May 29, 2018 19:53:23 GMT
Honestly, my opinion is riding on Dragon Age since the series hasn't let me down consistently yet.
Anthem is more like a test vehicle for more co-op/MP stories which I do not find that appealing compared to BioWare's single player experiences.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 29, 2018 19:58:43 GMT
Probably worse as it would mean more and more focus away from single player RPG storytelling. My knee-jerk reaction would be to feel the same way, but thinking about this, I don't really see Anthem's success, provided it's actually a high-quality experience for what it's designed for, as an actual threat to the sort of games BioWare is best known for. It's not as if they're really new to multiplayer, and I'm certain they are well aware of big, singleplayer-focused games of the past couple years that have been very successful. I don't think they'll want to lose out on that portion of the player base. I love BioWare games, and hope that they can keep making the kind of games I prefer even if those sorts of games are few and far between. If their other projects fail, the chances of getting the stuff I want the most just goes in the shitter, and despite what people around here or anywhere say, there's not a whole lot of other developers really pumping this sort of thing out, at least not in the way that got me so hooked on Bio's stuff.
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Post by wright1978 on Jun 1, 2018 21:42:17 GMT
Probably worse as it would mean more and more focus away from single player RPG storytelling. My knee-jerk reaction would be to feel the same way, but thinking about this, I don't really see Anthem's success, provided it's actually a high-quality experience for what it's designed for, as an actual threat to the sort of games BioWare is best known for. It's not as if they're really new to multiplayer, and I'm certain they are well aware of big, singleplayer-focused games of the past couple years that have been very successful. I don't think they'll want to lose out on that portion of the player base. I love BioWare games, and hope that they can keep making the kind of games I prefer even if those sorts of games are few and far between. If their other projects fail, the chances of getting the stuff I want the most just goes in the shitter, and despite what people around here or anywhere say, there's not a whole lot of other developers really pumping this sort of thing out, at least not in the way that got me so hooked on Bio's stuff. I can see your argument but given Mass Effect is in the deep Freeze and Dragon Age effectively paused to focus on Anthem this seems a radically different place to the past. I agree failure may not be desirable for the consequences that might result in but i'd argue success beyond expectations isn't desirable either as that will clearly affect their traditional single player franchises.
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Post by azarhal on Jun 1, 2018 22:32:13 GMT
My knee-jerk reaction would be to feel the same way, but thinking about this, I don't really see Anthem's success, provided it's actually a high-quality experience for what it's designed for, as an actual threat to the sort of games BioWare is best known for. It's not as if they're really new to multiplayer, and I'm certain they are well aware of big, singleplayer-focused games of the past couple years that have been very successful. I don't think they'll want to lose out on that portion of the player base. I love BioWare games, and hope that they can keep making the kind of games I prefer even if those sorts of games are few and far between. If their other projects fail, the chances of getting the stuff I want the most just goes in the shitter, and despite what people around here or anywhere say, there's not a whole lot of other developers really pumping this sort of thing out, at least not in the way that got me so hooked on Bio's stuff. I can see your argument but given Mass Effect is in the deep Freeze and Dragon Age effectively paused to focus on Anthem this seems a radically different place to the past. I agree failure may not be desirable for the consequences that might result in but i'd argue success beyond expectations isn't desirable either as that will clearly affect their traditional single player franchises. They just don't have the people to work on 4 IPs concurrently (Anthem, MEA, DA and SWTOR), they barely had enough for 3 IPs before EA decided to move all of BioWare Montréal to Motive Studio to boost that studio (amputating BioWare of about 100 devs). DA was rebooted last year, it fell back into pre-production with a small team, it's not exactly "on pause". Once Anthem release, a good chunk of them are going to be shifted back to DA (and SWTOR to work on 6.0). That also means that they will probably be able to start pre-production on a new ME game and whatever is their plan for Anthem. Think of it as follow (for AAA games): - pre-production 10 to 50 people (grows over time, early pre-production is conception, while the last part is tools creations and prototypes) - mid-production 50-150 (also grows over time, the start of making the game) - final year goes to 200-300+ (and that's small now for AAA games, but BioWare can't afford more..and by more I'm talking 800+ like Ubisoft or Bungie). BioWare is around 400 devs. They can afford one game in its final year (Anthem) and two smaller teams. Right now they have people on SWTOR, DA and a large team on Anthem.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 1, 2018 23:27:10 GMT
Honestly, I would say, "Good for you."
But at the same token, I want them to complete Dragon Age 4 afterwards.
Please, for the love of Andraste, develop and finish making Dragon Age 4.
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Post by 10k on Jun 9, 2018 19:50:49 GMT
After watching the E3 gameplay of Anthem, my opinion of BW will not change. Old BW is dead, and their games will remain dull and uninteresting. Anthem is just another warframe or destiny, Dragon age 4 will be most likely more of what we got from inquisition, and the next ME (if it ever sees the light of day again) will be Andromeda 2.0; so dull and boring.
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Post by wright1978 on Jun 9, 2018 20:01:12 GMT
After watching the E3 gameplay of Anthem, my opinion of BW will not change. Old BW is dead, and their games will remain dull and uninteresting. Anthem is just another warframe or destiny, Dragon age 4 will be most likely more of what we got from inquisition, and the next ME (if it ever sees the light of day again) will be Andromeda 2.0; so dull and boring. As much as i found DAI a struggle i could at least see Bioware in there. That Anthem Demo, if i hadn't been told it was made by bioware i never would have guessed.
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Post by Queen Skadi on Jun 10, 2018 10:02:05 GMT
I don't know, I think if you go in expecting this game to be traditional Bioware then you are inevitably going to leave disappointed.
The question is more will this be a good game in it's own right regardless of it's deviation from the traditional Bioware formula? As good as the game looks now and how much like the idea of flying around in an iron man suit, hearing about how Destiny and the Division are strong influences for this game and how it will be a loot based shooter kind of kills any interest I might have had in the game and knowing that it is being published by EA nukes that interest from orbit.
So far I would say I am in the not interested camp, but if the game ends up coming out, doesn't take the piss with microtransactions and actually looks like something I might want to play I might consider thinking about giving it a shot, as for whether the game being good or successful changes my opinion of Bioware I don't know, I am well beyond the stage where I will give a game a chance because of the Bioware name and even if this game is good I will still make my decisions on what I want to play on a game by game basis, but even if the game is good I don't think we will ever see the Bioware we used to love again.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Jun 10, 2018 12:54:39 GMT
Don't know why, but got feeling Anthem will be not such a big success as EA/BioWare predict. I see more threads around where people asking about DA4 or MEA successor, than about Anthem.
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Post by MediocreOgre on Jun 10, 2018 13:59:47 GMT
Don't know why, but got feeling Anthem will be not such a big success as EA/BioWare predict. I see more threads around where people asking about DA4 or MEA successor, than about Anthem. Considering the BSN is pretty... niche BioWare RPG hardcore fans that is probably why. Anthem simply isn’t marketed for that demographic. Anthem seems designed for a much younger, lower attention span, RPG skeptical person. and honestly we shouldn’t be that surprised. EA in general aims for a younger demo than some companies, and even in DAI/MEA you can see elements that seem designed for an audience younger than an M rating implies. But yeah a lot if BW fans are not that enthused, but clearly the impetus for Anthem is attract a new audience and only haphazardly wink at longtime fans. Though some longtime fans will assuredly like Anthem.
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Post by wright1978 on Jun 10, 2018 14:07:05 GMT
Don't know why, but got feeling Anthem will be not such a big success as EA/BioWare predict. I see more threads around where people asking about DA4 or MEA successor, than about Anthem. Considering the BSN is pretty... niche BioWare RPG hardcore fans that is probably why. Anthem simply isn’t marketed for that demographic. Anthem seems designed for a much younger, lower attention span, RPG skeptical person. and honestly we shouldn’t be that surprised. EA in general aims for a younger demo than some companies, and even in DAI/MEA you can see elements that seem designed for an audience younger than an M rating implies. But yeah a lot if BW fans are not that enthused, but clearly the impetus for Anthem is attract a new audience and only haphazardly wink at longtime fans. Though some longtime fans will assuredly like Anthem. Not even sure they are winking to be honest. probably after the casual crowd have finished with the game might they do so.
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Post by Amirit on Jun 10, 2018 22:35:39 GMT
Not sure "opinion about the company" is the right wording here. Have no other suggestion, just saying that you are asking in the post about "likeliness of purchasing another BW product". If Anthem is a success, BW (EA) will continue pouring resources in that game and in that direction. So I - someone who prefers "classic BW" will be left out and will not buy new BW games simply for the lack of the games for me. Opinion of the company would not change - it simply will be another company that makes games I am not interested in.
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Post by rikimaru on Jul 9, 2018 20:07:25 GMT
nope, i always thought that Bioware was one the top 10 developers in the video game industry
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