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Post by cmdrshep2183 on Jul 5, 2018 5:22:21 GMT
Would it be focused on one storyline and one character or spaceship crew or would each episode cover certain events in the Mass Effect universe like the Krogan Rebellion and First Contact war? Would slavery be a controversial topic? Do you think there are humans enslaved on the Batarian homeworld or would this anger the Alliance enough to send a fleet to Khar'Shan? Cerberus has done horrible things. There was also a Cerberus torture den for aliens on Trident.
Would a story featuring an idealistic character who wants to fight Cerberus and Batarian slavers be interesting?
There are still nation states on Earth in ME. Would it be interesting to see what humans on Earth think of the Alliance during 2150s-2183?
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Post by CursedPanther on Jul 5, 2018 7:10:18 GMT
There are plenty of room for a non-human protagonist should Bioware go ahead with the next ME. But the pressing matter to deal with is to decide on whether to make 'ME5' an Andromeda sequel, or go so far back in time to say around the time of the first Asari/Salarian/Turian major space expansion operations so that the original trilogy events are 'in the far unknown distant future'.
Bottom line, the original trilogy is one hot potato Bioware wants nothing to do with again.
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Post by sil on Jul 5, 2018 15:53:26 GMT
I think MEA 1.5 is the way to go. A shorter, smaller, tighter, stand-alone expansion that can be played separately to the main game for new players but will enhance and expand MEA for those who own it. Focus on rescuing the Quarian Ark over a bunch of shorter, more linear missions more akin to ME2/3, with a few other side stories to provide additional mini-adventures to play through. The combat is already there for MEA, it's strong, but focus on the characters and story (and make sure the anims are up to scratch) and they'll do very well.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jul 5, 2018 16:05:02 GMT
I’m still rooting for salarian bad guys. The lizard people deserve it.
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Post by guanxi on Jul 6, 2018 6:01:31 GMT
Typically the expanded universe material in any franchise only appeals to hardcore fans and we few can barely support book deals as it stands. Any big budget Mass Effect project is going to be 'human-centric' I can tell you that for nothing. That's not to say human centric stories couldn't be heavily centered around historical alien conflicts through exposition and flashbacks as with ME3.
DLC like Pinnacle Station and Airmax Arena (even multiplayer dlc) which can simulate historical events as training exercises would be my preferred avenue for exploring pre-human historical conflicts in the game series. My ideal scenario would be to have a self contained story campaign like FO3's Operation Anchorage for the Morning War or the Rebellions which unlocks re-playable combat scenarios and maps a la Pinnacle Station/Airmax for after you complete the story campaign.
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Post by Sanunes on Jul 6, 2018 6:21:03 GMT
The problem is with playing non-human characters is player expectation. With Dragon Age the series was built with the idea of non-human playable characters for the models are all the same just different sizes. With Mass Effect anatomy is a lot different which requires a lot of animation work, now if the majority of players still want to play human and that is probably the data EA gets from both in game statistics and surveys I cannot see a non-human only game.
So with how people reacted to facial animations in Andromeda do you think BioWare or EA would want to make a set that requires more animation work to make sure it works or would they take the road where there is less problems. Yes the animations are there for things like MP, but I cannot find the interview with Mass Effect 3 Shepard has a vastly larger animation set then even the companions we take along between conversations and interaction with objects. If you played Dragon Age: Inquisition a lot of the animated conversations were two characters standing arms distance apart and standing still.
As far as the proposals you make for different focus for the games, I just don't think there is enough there to make a good game. It would require padding the story of those events out like The Hobbit movies to make something that is long enough for people to want to buy.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 8:49:18 GMT
Any gaming universe can support another game if the devs are creative enough, there's a tonne of material in ME for them to riff on.
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Post by sil on Jul 6, 2018 10:11:23 GMT
Any gaming universe can support another game if the devs are creative enough, there's a tonne of material in ME for them to riff on. When less than 1% of a galaxy has been explored, it gives a lot of potential. You know, I'd be happy with a new short game like Infiltrator even. I know it wasn't the greatest game, but it fleshed out part of Cerberus. A game of that sort with more story would be interesting.
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Post by lynx7386 on Jul 6, 2018 16:09:17 GMT
I would like to see a top down rts like starcraft with the ability to control ships and units from each race.
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Post by guanxi on Jul 6, 2018 19:24:31 GMT
I would like to see a top down rts like starcraft with the ability to control ships and units from each race. If you want to try a Mass Effect themed RTS... Civ5 had some awesome Mass Effect steam workshop mod(s) which add 19 different Mass Effect civilizations including the Reapers. Each Mass Effect civ has their own leader, unique traits, bonuses (e.g. Krogan have massive population growth, Batarians get production bonuses and free slave units instead of workers, etc.), buildings (e.g. Temple of Athame, Batarian State Arms), units (e.g. Krogan Warlords, Asari Commandos, STG, etc.), wonders, policies, religions, etc. I would definitely recommend if you still have it in your steam library as a fan of Mass Effect and strategy games. Personally, I highly doubt any Mass Effect spin-off RTS would have any where near as much depth as Civ 5 (bnw + g&k) with these mod(s), imo. You can even start in the Information era and download custom world maps for more futuristic gameplay (most of the unique units for the Mass Effect civs are designed for late game as you might expect, e.g. Volus Heavy Bombers). It's balanced really well for the most part. It's a real shame there doesn't seem to be any similar Mass Effect content mods for either Civ Beyond Earth or Civ 6 afaik. ^For Tali
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Jul 7, 2018 11:54:26 GMT
Isn't it a little desperate to go straight to slavery in paragraph 2? O.o
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Post by General Mahad on Jul 7, 2018 13:38:38 GMT
The beauty of having a space opera with many different worlds, factions, wars, and mysteries is you don't have to limit your stories to just team milkyway plus unlike sci-fi universes like the HALO series, you are not limited to just writing stories solely about the conflicts.
You can have a detective story on the citadel, you can have a colonist story on the uncharted and hostile worlds of the Terminus systems, you can have a political extremist story on Earth and how it has changed since contact with Aliens, you can be a pirate or gangbanger on Omega dealing in red sand, you can be a scientist trying to unlocking the many mysteries of the milky way and the mass relay and even be a politician who can start or end wars.
There's so many genres of games that can fit into the Mass effect Universe just because of how well it is established and how much room it has t grow.
Hell, even a dating or romance text game wouldn't be out of place if written well.
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Post by natetrace on Jul 7, 2018 13:46:16 GMT
I always thought if they did a contact game it might be like Gears Tactics. Isometric rts time! In a sequel to Andromeda I'd like to see a race that has fused it's flesh with the remnant.
I would like to see the batarian slavery system, if only because I want to see a human with the top of their head cut off and wires in their brain.
I'd like to see Palaven while the Reapers aren't attacking.
I'd like to go back to Illium and Nos Astra.
For Andromeda, I want to fight the Abyssal. I would like to see more races get the Kett treatment.
Other things: fight black ark collectors in a campaign mission. Have a spinning Omni blade move where you twist like a tornado and chop up everything too close.
There are plenty of stories to tell. Maybe in the MW we uncover some Oravores in stasis or realize the Salarians have been holding on to protheans in pods. A lot of things could happen in the ME universe. Oh, and I'd like to fight on the yahg homeworld. Really, say a game was set a few hundred years post ME3, I see the yahg as a potential huge threat.
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Post by sil on Jul 7, 2018 17:06:28 GMT
There are plenty of stories to tell. Maybe in the MW we uncover some Oravores in stasis or realize the Salarians have been holding on to protheans in pods. A lot of things could happen in the ME universe. Oh, and I'd like to fight on the yahg homeworld. Really, say a game was set a few hundred years post ME3, I see the yahg as a potential huge threat. Considering the salarians are authorised to uplift the yahg during Priority: Sur'kesh, I'd say that they'd work best as a threat post-ending. Yahg uplifted in the final stages of the war before Priority: Earth end up marching on nearby colonises, forcing them to bend the knee. In a post-ending galaxy, they'd be one of the few races with the numbers to pose a legitimate threat to a war-weary and devastated galaxy. That's how I'd do it, anyway.
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Post by natetrace on Jul 7, 2018 20:53:10 GMT
There are plenty of stories to tell. Maybe in the MW we uncover some Oravores in stasis or realize the Salarians have been holding on to protheans in pods. A lot of things could happen in the ME universe. Oh, and I'd like to fight on the yahg homeworld. Really, say a game was set a few hundred years post ME3, I see the yahg as a potential huge threat. Considering the salarians are authorised to uplift the yahg during Priority: Sur'kesh, I'd say that they'd work best as a threat post-ending. Yahg uplifted in the final stages of the war before Priority: Earth end up marching on nearby colonises, forcing them to bend the knee. In a post-ending galaxy, they'd be one of the few races with the numbers to pose a legitimate threat to a war-weary and devastated galaxy. That's how I'd do it, anyway. Yeah the MW is very vulnerable post 3. Whether it is continued Cerberus attacks (or attacks in their name), salarian meddling, or a Yahg invasion, there is much that could be done. Whether it's Andromeda or post ME3, I think there is a lot that can be done, 72 meta score or red green blue endings be damned! It's fine! They aren't written into a corner nearly as much as some say they are. I still say all endings can be easily explained, only refuse will end up as non canonical. Also, I want to mount a Yahg skull in my captains quarters.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Jul 7, 2018 21:50:18 GMT
Would it be focused on one storyline and one character or spaceship crew or would each episode cover certain events in the Mass Effect universe like the Krogan Rebellion and First Contact war? Would slavery be a controversial topic? Do you think there are humans enslaved on the Batarian homeworld or would this anger the Alliance enough to send a fleet to Khar'Shan? Cerberus has done horrible things. There was also a Cerberus torture den for aliens on Trident.
Would a story featuring an idealistic character who wants to fight Cerberus and Batarian slavers be interesting?
There are still nation states on Earth in ME. Would it be interesting to see what humans on Earth think of the Alliance during 2150s-2183?
As games IMHO none of those ideas wouldn't sound like a game that a lot of people would play, now as novels and/or comics those ideas might (and the key word here is: MIGHT) work depending on the authors.
Also the ME Universe is vast and a lot of the ideas and stories mentioned in the codex and/or by NPCs would be better suited to a novel and/or a comic book than as a video game, I mean would if the main plot is about how Benezia and Atheyta met, fell in love, got married, had Liara, then got divorced, now does sound like sound idea for a major video game or novel and/or comic? To me that story would be suited to a novel or a comic and not as the main plot of a major video game. And yes I'm well aware that are indie games and the visual novels that do that but I just don't see EA or BioWare doing that kind of game anytime soon for a number of reasons.
Some stories are better suited to a video game and other stories to other media.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Jul 8, 2018 5:07:50 GMT
If BioWare can't MAKE it interesting, then they aren't very good writers.
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Post by goishen on Jul 8, 2018 18:49:47 GMT
Anything is interesting enough to make another in the series. However, you have to work through the entire series lore before making up some of your own lore.
There's plenty there to make another game. And to make it interesting. Say the council is losing a war really really badly? They introduce something akin to the genophage, that the krogans get upset about. So upset, that they start another war. Or at the very least, turn their backs away from the council.
It doesn't have to always be one big happy family, and I just wish that some of the writers over there at BioWare could see that.
Apparently not.
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Post by sil on Jul 9, 2018 9:03:24 GMT
Anything is interesting enough to make another in the series. However, you have to work through the entire series lore before making up some of your own lore. There's plenty there to make another game. And to make it interesting. Say the council is losing a war really really badly? They introduce something akin to the genophage, that the krogans get upset about. So upset, that they start another war. Or at the very least, turn their backs away from the council. It doesn't have to always be one big happy family, and I just wish that some of the writers over there at BioWare could see that. Apparently not. That's why I feel the games need to start diving into internal strife for stories rather than external mega-threats. We've had the Reapers, in truth, we need a different type of threat now.
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Post by malgus on Jul 18, 2018 20:10:39 GMT
The mass effect universe is rich enough to have tons of great spin off in many different genre, the only thing that is required for that is a publisher willing to spend ressources into them.
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Post by Phantom on Jul 19, 2018 22:25:20 GMT
i would love to see the dirty underbelly of the Council space and aliens(council and non council) species are finding ways to undercut Humanity. there are several ways to show it outside of my ideas.
One of my characters idea is Shelby and she is tiny compared to Batarian Warden(he is a sadistic prison warden that was involved in the Raid on Mindor) due to he is a giant of a Batarian(he is around 6'8 with muscle mass to be insanely strong and fighting ability to compliment his massive strength) and in an epic fight, Shelby defeats the Batarian Warden by herself. Due to how coldly she kills him, she scares her companion a great deal how different she is when angry and how bubbly and sweet she is normally.
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Post by vallixas on Jul 31, 2018 16:16:07 GMT
The OT did, Andromeda not so much. So they'd either have to go back to the Milky Way, or reboot again. I still don't believe we'll see another though.
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Post by griffith82 on Jul 31, 2018 20:26:37 GMT
The OT did, Andromeda not so much. So they'd either have to go back to the Milky Way, or reboot again. I still don't believe we'll see another though. We will. Not likely for a while though. All I can say is no reboot.
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Post by Sanunes on Jul 31, 2018 21:54:06 GMT
The OT did, Andromeda not so much. So they'd either have to go back to the Milky Way, or reboot again. I still don't believe we'll see another though. All three directions are problematic. Continuing with Andromeda has the baggage of the first game, reboots have a a lot of negativity towards them as well generally along the lines of not being creative, and going back to the Milky Way has the exact same problem they were trying to escape with Andromeda and that was player choice and the expectations of the community. I really think when we see Mass Effect again it will still be in Andromeda, but with a different direction then what was planned. Since BioWare makes games in a cycle there is Anthem in 2019 and whenever they release Dragon Age again and only then will BioWare talk Mass Effect.
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