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Post by Phantom on Aug 13, 2018 18:29:30 GMT
there are millions of ways to have geniunely good Mass Effect games within both Andromeda and Milk Way. Volus can be a functional big good or big bad of a Mass Effect game if written correctly.
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Post by sil on Aug 13, 2018 20:55:19 GMT
there are millions of ways to have geniunely good Mass Effect games within both Andromeda and Milk Way. Volus can be a functional big good or big bad of a Mass Effect game if written correctly. Truth is that most races could, if they were handled right. The best thing for the next ME to do is to focus on a smaller plot. ME2's plot was relatively small despite the stakes, it boiled down to taking out a base of Collectors with a special team. ME3 overstretched itself with its Reaper War (but barely focused on the Reapers themselves, more Cerberus) and ME:A was too expansive and slow to approach its main plot. ME2 has the right structure for smaller stories.
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Post by Phantom on Aug 13, 2018 22:36:14 GMT
there are millions of ways to have geniunely good Mass Effect games within both Andromeda and Milk Way. Volus can be a functional big good or big bad of a Mass Effect game if written correctly. Truth is that most races could, if they were handled right. The best thing for the next ME to do is to focus on a smaller plot. ME2's plot was relatively small despite the stakes, it boiled down to taking out a base of Collectors with a special team. ME3 overstretched itself with its Reaper War (but barely focused on the Reapers themselves, more Cerberus) and ME:A was too expansive and slow to approach its main plot. ME2 has the right structure for smaller stories. To me, Too Much Cerberus and not enough Reapers. That is one of the strengths of ME2. I do admit that I love Cerberus Phantom, N7 Slayer and N7 Shadow as NPCs. I do have a fondness for a Geth duo of Barney the Geth Engineer and Hunter, Geth Hunter.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Aug 13, 2018 23:18:15 GMT
Barney the Geth Engineer and Hunter, Geth Hunter.
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Barney the Geth Engineer and Hunter, Geth Hunter. That is what I actually named my geth engineer and geth hunter. my Geth Engineer is a bit of a goof ball loves children and the little kids called him Barney due to his purple Armor after the Barney the Purple Dinosaur and just say, He has no love for Collectors and he has a closest thing to hatred that a Geth can call it. He has,by Geth standards, a few screws loose but the closest thing he has to a best friend is Hunter, Geth Hunter Infilitrator. Hunter is a very cold Geth Hunter. For his name is his function and he is happy that way.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Aug 13, 2018 23:45:48 GMT
That is what I actually named my geth engineer and geth hunter. my Geth Engineer is a bit of a goof ball loves children and the little kids called him Barney due to his purple Armor after the Barney the Purple Dinosaur and just say, He has no love for Collectors and he has a closest thing to hatred that a Geth can call it. He has,by Geth standards, a few screws loose but the closest thing he has to a best friend is Hunter, Geth Hunter Infilitrator. Hunter is a very cold Geth Hunter. For his name is his function and he is happy that way. I love to headcanon my kits as well. Casper the Turian Ghost is a friendly fella, and just mostly likes to keep things cool with his Cryo Striker. All of my female kits are named after my hottest ex's My Asari Valkyrie is Elbereth Gilthoniel... She is the Goddess
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Post by Phantom on Aug 13, 2018 23:50:41 GMT
That is what I actually named my geth engineer and geth hunter. my Geth Engineer is a bit of a goof ball loves children and the little kids called him Barney due to his purple Armor after the Barney the Purple Dinosaur and just say, He has no love for Collectors and he has a closest thing to hatred that a Geth can call it. He has,by Geth standards, a few screws loose but the closest thing he has to a best friend is Hunter, Geth Hunter Infilitrator. Hunter is a very cold Geth Hunter. For his name is his function and he is happy that way. I love to headcanon my kits as well. Casper the Turian Ghost is a friendly fella, and just mostly likes to keep things cool with his Cryo Striker. All of my female kits are named after my hottest ex's My Asari Valkyrie is Elbereth Gilthoniel... She is the Goddess I named my N7 Fury after a Real person and The real person is named Eloisa. Eloisa, N7 Fury, is much like her real counterpart is brave and true and very much a sweetheart and thinks my N7 Slayer as her favorite uncle. Eloisa the N7 Fury is on good terms with my Geth heroes
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Post by legbamel on Aug 14, 2018 22:27:49 GMT
I'm curious to see whether Casey's stated interest in telling smaller stories and exploring different types of games (for BioWare as a while, not just his) lends itself to little set-pieces and side stories in the ME universe, whatever galaxy. While I hope they continue the story of our move to Andromeda, I would definitely be interested in little, inexpensive games that expand the list re of that universe.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Aug 14, 2018 22:36:50 GMT
I'm curious to see whether Casey's stated interest in telling smaller stories and exploring different types of games (for BioWare as a while, not just his) lends itself to little set-pieces and side stories in the ME universe, whatever galaxy. While I hope they continue the story of our move to Andromeda, I would definitely be interested in little, inexpensive games that expand the list re of that universe.
Chances are if that were to happen given that this is EA we're talking about it would be a cheap POS mobile "game" that is more microtransactions than anything else. Side stories like for example: what the Resistance was doing on Earth against the Reapers, (set during the most of the events of ME3), would be better handled IMHO as DLC and/or an expansion packs for the video game in question, in this case ME3.
After the game has ran it's course then should be other media like comics, novels, web series, anime, and so on to tell those stories.
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Post by sil on Aug 14, 2018 23:00:33 GMT
I'm curious to see whether Casey's stated interest in telling smaller stories and exploring different types of games (for BioWare as a while, not just his) lends itself to little set-pieces and side stories in the ME universe, whatever galaxy. While I hope they continue the story of our move to Andromeda, I would definitely be interested in little, inexpensive games that expand the list re of that universe.
Chances are if that were to happen given that this is EA we're talking about it would be a cheap POS mobile "game" that is more microtransactions than anything else. Side stories like for example: what the Resistance was doing on Earth against the Reapers, (set during the most of the events of ME3), would be better handled IMHO as DLC and/or an expansion packs for the video game in question, in this case ME3.
After the game has ran it's course then should be other media like comics, novels, web series, anime, and so on to tell those stories.
I'm still surprised they never made comics to tell other stories set during the Reaper War. There is a treasure trove of possibilities for a war like that, so much potential for stories. A definite missed opportunity.
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Post by legbamel on Aug 14, 2018 23:01:52 GMT
I would agree, in the case of the original trilogy, but I would hope there's enough breadth and depth in the Andromeda setting that they could find a lot to tell us about the various species (some of which we maybe haven't met). The galaxy has a lot going on that our new arrivals haven't heard.
That said, I admit I fear that the reality would be cheese and fluff rather than little story beats that would engage players in the universe. I hope, but not unrealisically. :/
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 16, 2018 9:43:25 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised of a follow-up game had an entirely different set of devs and writers.
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Post by flyingsquirrel on Aug 16, 2018 16:59:55 GMT
I'm curious to see whether Casey's stated interest in telling smaller stories and exploring different types of games (for BioWare as a while, not just his) lends itself to little set-pieces and side stories in the ME universe, whatever galaxy. While I hope they continue the story of our move to Andromeda, I would definitely be interested in little, inexpensive games that expand the list re of that universe. If it gets them off the "more and bigger" bandwagon, I'm all for it. I think the best bet for Mass Effect, assuming that they aren't going to follow up on Andromeda, is to focus on the period of time between the FCW and the Shepard trilogy, with humanity having an uneasy relationship with the Council and getting into conflict with the batarians over expansion into the Attican Traverse. There could be some other flashpoints besides Mindoir, Elysium, and Torfan where the Alliance had to defend colonies or go on the offense against the pirates and slavers - maybe follow the ME1 model where a skirmish somewhere leads to a broader investigation with a mix of exploration, dialogue, and combat leading up to a decisive confrontation of some sort (albeit one with much lower stakes).
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 16, 2018 23:32:14 GMT
Personally, I'd prefer to avoid anything where we already know the outcome. This includes side stories set during the Reaper War. We know it ends in RGB no matter what.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Aug 17, 2018 1:23:46 GMT
Personally, I'd prefer to avoid anything where we already know the outcome. This includes side stories set during the Reaper War. We know it ends in RGB no matter what. Yes, I suppose we do. I'm willing to forget about that if my PC is fairly ignorant of RippaZ, likes Ryncol and knows how to Lift, and isn't trying to save this galaxy or the next. Just wants to get his chit and go dancing. That might be too casual for how "hard-core" Mass Effect has been traditionally, but again if it's a good story with companions that were done well, would you care? I wouldn't, but maybe I'm alone on this.
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 17, 2018 1:32:58 GMT
Personally, I'd prefer to avoid anything where we already know the outcome. This includes side stories set during the Reaper War. We know it ends in RGB no matter what. I wouldn't mind something like a prothean era game. Set during the height of their civilization. But preferably Andromeda.
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 17, 2018 4:24:48 GMT
Personally, I'd prefer to avoid anything where we already know the outcome. This includes side stories set during the Reaper War. We know it ends in RGB no matter what. I wouldn't mind something like a prothean era game. Set during the height of their civilization. But preferably Andromeda. That would be interesting. Sure, we know how it ends, but it's so far away as to be meaningless. The Reapers wouldn't be a factor, but we could learn why the Protheans were so anti-AI (zha & zha'til, I think) and maybe just how many different races were under the thumb of the Protheans. I'd even more like to see how they compare with the Leviathan. They control everything and aren't so different that the ones who created the Intelligence.
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Post by Sanunes on Aug 17, 2018 6:33:45 GMT
I wouldn't mind something like a prothean era game. Set during the height of their civilization. But preferably Andromeda. That would be interesting. Sure, we know how it ends, but it's so far away as to be meaningless. The Reapers wouldn't be a factor, but we could learn why the Protheans were so anti-AI (zha & zha'til, I think) and maybe just how many different races were under the thumb of the Protheans. I'd even more like to see how they compare with the Leviathan. They control everything and aren't so different that the ones who created the Intelligence. The big question I have for something like that is if there is enough people that would be willing to play a non-human in Mass Effect. I am pretty sure BioWare has the metrics from all their games about what races and classes people are playing. Its been a long time and I cannot find the link anymore, but I think it was at one point mentioned with Dragon Age: Origins that 80% of the people played or created human characters, but only 15% were elves and 5% dwarves. If that is the case it could lead to the thinking that their market might be much smaller without the option of playing a human character.
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 17, 2018 11:19:56 GMT
That would be interesting. Sure, we know how it ends, but it's so far away as to be meaningless. The Reapers wouldn't be a factor, but we could learn why the Protheans were so anti-AI (zha & zha'til, I think) and maybe just how many different races were under the thumb of the Protheans. I'd even more like to see how they compare with the Leviathan. They control everything and aren't so different that the ones who created the Intelligence. The big question I have for something like that is if there is enough people that would be willing to play a non-human in Mass Effect. I am pretty sure BioWare has the metrics from all their games about what races and classes people are playing. Its been a long time and I cannot find the link anymore, but I think it was at one point mentioned with Dragon Age: Origins that 80% of the people played or created human characters, but only 15% were elves and 5% dwarves. If that is the case it could lead to the thinking that their market might be much smaller without the option of playing a human character. I remember that. But that's because a choice was offered. I've seen many people here ask for that in ME. I like playing Human in ME but wouldn't be against this.
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Post by Sanunes on Aug 17, 2018 11:45:38 GMT
The big question I have for something like that is if there is enough people that would be willing to play a non-human in Mass Effect. I am pretty sure BioWare has the metrics from all their games about what races and classes people are playing. Its been a long time and I cannot find the link anymore, but I think it was at one point mentioned with Dragon Age: Origins that 80% of the people played or created human characters, but only 15% were elves and 5% dwarves. If that is the case it could lead to the thinking that their market might be much smaller without the option of playing a human character. I remember that. But that's because a choice was offered. I've seen many people here ask for that in ME. I like playing Human in ME but wouldn't be against this. Right, but the question that we cannot answer is does "around here" represent the hundreds of thousands or millions of people buy video games. Even looking at the statistics there are thousands of people that stop buy and read what is being posted here, but don't even have an account. It just seems to be a big risk if the information shows that people aren't interested when there is a choice in the matter to think that if humans aren't there people would still be interested. There are definitely people like you (for I am the same way), I am just not sure if they want to risk (random number) 15% of the people that would want to buy a video game won't because Humanity isn't an option when it seems the margins for copies sold in a BioWare game are on a razor's edge.
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 17, 2018 12:07:49 GMT
I remember that. But that's because a choice was offered. I've seen many people here ask for that in ME. I like playing Human in ME but wouldn't be against this. Right, but the question that we cannot answer is does "around here" represent the hundreds of thousands or millions of people buy video games. Even looking at the statistics there are thousands of people that stop buy and read what is being posted here, but don't even have an account. It just seems to be a big risk if the information shows that people aren't interested when there is a choice in the matter to think that if humans aren't there people would still be interested. There are definitely people like you (for I am the same way), I am just not sure if they want to risk (random number) 15% of the people that would want to buy a video game won't because Humanity isn't an option when it seems the margins for copies sold in a BioWare game are on a razor's edge. Fair point.
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 17, 2018 18:00:43 GMT
That would be interesting. Sure, we know how it ends, but it's so far away as to be meaningless. The Reapers wouldn't be a factor, but we could learn why the Protheans were so anti-AI (zha & zha'til, I think) and maybe just how many different races were under the thumb of the Protheans. I'd even more like to see how they compare with the Leviathan. They control everything and aren't so different that the ones who created the Intelligence. The big question I have for something like that is if there is enough people that would be willing to play a non-human in Mass Effect. I am pretty sure BioWare has the metrics from all their games about what races and classes people are playing. Its been a long time and I cannot find the link anymore, but I think it was at one point mentioned with Dragon Age: Origins that 80% of the people played or created human characters, but only 15% were elves and 5% dwarves. If that is the case it could lead to the thinking that their market might be much smaller without the option of playing a human character. True. Maybe it doesn't have to be an actual Prothean. Could be a race that's part of the empire. That person could be more or less human. A Prothean protagonist could be the subject of a DLC. I see your numbers, though, so maybe it wouldn't work. I think it's a great idea, though.
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Post by KaiserShep on Aug 19, 2018 9:17:11 GMT
That would be interesting. Sure, we know how it ends, but it's so far away as to be meaningless. The Reapers wouldn't be a factor, but we could learn why the Protheans were so anti-AI (zha & zha'til, I think) and maybe just how many different races were under the thumb of the Protheans. I'd even more like to see how they compare with the Leviathan. They control everything and aren't so different that the ones who created the Intelligence. The big question I have for something like that is if there is enough people that would be willing to play a non-human in Mass Effect. I am pretty sure BioWare has the metrics from all their games about what races and classes people are playing. Its been a long time and I cannot find the link anymore, but I think it was at one point mentioned with Dragon Age: Origins that 80% of the people played or created human characters, but only 15% were elves and 5% dwarves. If that is the case it could lead to the thinking that their market might be much smaller without the option of playing a human character. Honestly, having to play an alien in Mass Effect would drastically reduce my enthusiasm to continue.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Aug 19, 2018 9:41:06 GMT
Would love a Mass Effect 4x game set in the Milky Way, either during ME3 or before. I also would not be opposed to a First Contact game that was multiplayer focused, but still had a solid campaign. Honestly anything other than more Andromeda would be fine.
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Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
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Post by Heimdall on Aug 19, 2018 17:32:34 GMT
I’d like one of two things:
A traditional ME2 style game written as an espionage thriller, set while Shepard was dead.
A fleet combat game designed in the style of Nexus the Jupiter Incident (One of my favorite fleet combat games of all time)
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