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Post by Hrungr on Jul 17, 2019 18:35:20 GMT
So I am slightly confused as to how I should proceed (again), so I did the quest for Adonis and am I supposed to go finding the "perception" things for the staff, talk to Hekate, weaken places or go to see Pesephone first? After talking to Adonis, Kassandra said something like I should go and see Persephone but I thought I was supposed to be weakening her grip on things? Does it matter? You're going to get quests from each of them, so definitely visit each. I think it becomes pretty clear when the story builds toward its conclusion, so there's no real threat of missing anything. This. Once you progress enough through the main quests to get the one from Adonis to recruit the soldiers, that's a good time to hunt down the staff/ability upgrades.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 17, 2019 19:07:14 GMT
Anyone finish Judgement of Atlantis yet? I'm curious to hear other opinions.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 17, 2019 19:10:15 GMT
Anyone finish Judgement of Atlantis yet? I'm curious to hear other opinions. I just started but...strictly my opinion... Boy hasn't Layla turned into a Class A b****.
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Post by Hrungr on Jul 17, 2019 19:14:39 GMT
Anyone finish Judgement of Atlantis yet? I'm curious to hear other opinions. I'm impressed you got through it so quickly, Atlantis is huge. How many hours did it take you?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 17, 2019 19:19:43 GMT
Anyone finish Judgement of Atlantis yet? I'm curious to hear other opinions. I just started but...strictly my opinion... Boy hasn't Layla turned into a Class A b****. You've already tapped into my hatred towards this DLC. Anyone finish Judgement of Atlantis yet? I'm curious to hear other opinions. I'm impressed you got through it so quickly, Atlantis is huge. How many hours did it take you? It's not as big as it seems really. There also aren't a lot of side things to do. Doing everything and taking my time took maybe 5-6 hours.
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Post by OdanUrr on Jul 17, 2019 22:34:02 GMT
Anyone finish Judgement of Atlantis yet? I'm curious to hear other opinions. I haven't but I'm curious to hear yours to see if it's worth buying.
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Post by dazk on Jul 17, 2019 23:03:02 GMT
So I am slightly confused as to how I should proceed (again), so I did the quest for Adonis and am I supposed to go finding the "perception" things for the staff, talk to Hekate, weaken places or go to see Pesephone first? After talking to Adonis, Kassandra said something like I should go and see Persephone but I thought I was supposed to be weakening her grip on things? Does it matter? You're going to get quests from each of them, so definitely visit each. I think it becomes pretty clear when the story builds toward its conclusion, so there's no real threat of missing anything. Cheers, will go see Hekate next I think and then play it by ear from there.
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Post by dazk on Jul 17, 2019 23:08:48 GMT
You're going to get quests from each of them, so definitely visit each. I think it becomes pretty clear when the story builds toward its conclusion, so there's no real threat of missing anything. This. Once you progress enough through the main quests to get the one from Adonis to recruit the soldiers, that's a good time to hunt down the staff/ability upgrades. Does he specifically ask you to recruit the soldiers or does he just say something like: "And you are going to need all the help you can get"? As he said that yesterday. I have already liberated a bunch of them, although knocked out one who fell off a really high cliff, . The sleeping guards are a pain too as when knocking out one another will usually wake up and the game freezes to let you do another knock out or RA but won't actually do it. Don't want to waste time just waiting for the bastards to wake up. Also killing the Aegean Queen yesterday the game cheated, I tried to knock her out and the meter said she'd have zero health but then she didn't die and so the damn Kolossi attacked. Or can you not knock her out?
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jul 17, 2019 23:12:53 GMT
I finished Odyssey's main story last night. Before I did that, there was yet another odd task for Alkibiades...a politician had to be taken to his house. Except it clearly wasn't his house. Yeah - shady dude confirmed, but I'm still not sure what his deal is. Most people in this thread have already finished the main game, but just in case - SPOILERS Damn. It. I was right about the Ghost. Whatever, it's fine. She died, because Kass did not buy her particular brand of Kool-Aid. Confrontation where it all began... But it ended Ok.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 17, 2019 23:17:14 GMT
So probably a lot of spoiler, spoiler, spoiler, spoiler, posts over the next few days. But god damn am I so rusty as Alexios. I lost to a group of lions for crying out loud. I mean there were three of them but still just one of those instances where my health was still 'in the white' took a swipe at me'...dead Alexios. Its weird but for some reason I swear Alexios's health bar is smaller then Kass's too. Sure at this point she is about 16 levels ahead of him but still that its *noticable* (if I am noticing it) is weird. Also I am developing a tactic strategy of using 'Rapid Fire' more instead of devestating shot...especially against the animals. And I might need to make sure my gear is upgraded but then I started that process at the Fordge of Atlantis. Oh and I absolutley love the archtecture/ geography/ design of the city. Pretty much straight out of the legend. So now for the spoiler spoiler stuff. So the DLC is off to a reasonably good start all and all didn'tdo too much but like one of the quests for the Archons which was a doozy. And I was off to one of the Keeper's Insights Areas before I got mauled...which is why said mauling pissed me off so badly. Also doing random exploring but haven't tried clearing any of the areas out yet and looking for the data caches or the Adamant Ingots...which I think the data caches is a lot more natural way of blocking progress then that stupid armor set you had to wear from last DLC.
Met Poseidon and Atlas so far which led me to have a conversation with my wife on what other gods we hope to run into. Zeus and Athena seem to be at the top of our list though there are a lot of the other ones which would also be appreciated.
The first quest with the Archon was certainly a doozy. Had to engage in a series of gladitorial fights to raise the spirits of the people and keep them all nice and distracted. I hope there is more to it in the future because it REALLY escelated quickly when the Archon was like 'oh by the way kill these low life human criminals/ scum'. Of course Alexios refused since they were unarmed and no context was given to their crimes...but yeah I hope the choices are a bit more nuanced then that in the future especially if the DLC is heading where I think it is. Though the choice on whether or not to continue the games themselves was a bit...better.
As far as what is happening with Layla I think I made my opinions clear since it basically brushed aside Victoria's death...at least so far. She just seems way too giddy about it and gung ho, even when the game gave me the opprotunity to express remorse Layla went back to acting like...a giddy school girl over the whole thing. I am a bit torn since they did technically set it up, they mentioned the corruption of the staff and Layla mentioned how the bleeding effect might be effecting her since she merged with Deimos so its possible...but it still seems so far out of left field. So it might be poor writing. And she is also acting way too excited and gung ho. I never really connected with Layla like some do so its not a BIG problem with me...just annoying at this point.
There is still one more chance at redemption over that whole particular plot point depending on the direction that I think they might be going and since Alexios is having to be a 'judge.' But we'll see.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 17, 2019 23:21:05 GMT
Anyone finish Judgement of Atlantis yet? I'm curious to hear other opinions. I haven't but I'm curious to hear yours to see if it's worth buying. Have you played the first two parts? Just asking so I know what to talk about.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jul 17, 2019 23:26:08 GMT
As an overall reaction; the clue was in the name of the game. Odyssey - it's about the journey, not necessarily its ending. I liked the ending, the Cult being - almost a side-note to Kassandra regaining her family and finally having roots to put down. But the journey or the odyssey she went on to reach that end was the games strength, for me. Yes, there was plenty of repetitive busy work. But it was - for the most part - fun repetition. And logical. The game is gorgeous, and that helps, but it never loses sight of the fact that a game needs to be fun to be "good", and this one was. On sitting down for dinner with Kassandra's family I felt a sense of satisfaction. I wasn't blown away, just...content. Almost everything to that point had been a tense and/or exciting and very well put together. I was left with - on a smaller scale - the same sense of my character finally pausing to exhale that I had in the final scene of the Witcher 3:Blood and Wine, when Geralt turns to the camera and smiles. I will start the final Atlantis chapter tonight, probably but once that is done, I'll be putting this down for a while. I don't regret the time I spent in Kassandra's shoes, but there is a whole lot of game here. I think I need some time before running into it again, despite the fact that I now have a good handle on how it all works so won't have to go through the learning curve of the early game again. It's not Dragon Age. It's not the Witcher. But it was very good. If Ubisoft stick with this style, then fine - I'll probably check out the next Assassin's Creed (this was my first Creed game and only my fourth Ubisoft game - the others being the Prince of Persia trilogy). If they delve further into the RPG aspects, then I'll follow with increasing interest. 7/10 - will play again - just need a palette cleanser.
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Post by dazk on Jul 17, 2019 23:30:45 GMT
As an overall reaction; the clue was in the name of the game. Odyssey - it's about the journey, not necessarily its ending. I liked the ending, the Cult being - almost a side-note to Kassandra regaining her family and finally having roots to put down. But the journey or the odyssey she went on to reach that end was the games strength, for me. Yes, there was plenty of repetitive busy work. But it was - for the most part - fun repetition. And logical. The game is gorgeous, and that helps, but it never loses sight of the fact that a game needs to be fun to be "good", and this one was. On sitting down for dinner with Kassandra's family I felt a sense of satisfaction. I wasn't blown away, just...content. Almost everything to that point had been a tense and/or exciting and very well put together. I was left with - on a smaller scale - the same sense of my character finally pausing to exhale that I had in the final scene of the Witcher 3:Blood and Wine, when Geralt turns to the camera and smiles. I will start the final Atlantis chapter tonight, probably but once that is done, I'll be putting this down for a while. I don't regret the time I spent in Kassandra's shoes, but there is a whole lot of game here. I think I need some time before running into it again, despite the fact that I now have a good handle on how it all works so won't have to go through the learning curve of the early game again. It's not Dragon Age. It's not the Witcher. But it was very good. If Ubisoft stick with this style, then fine - I'll probably check out the next Assassin's Creed (this was my first Creed game and only my fourth Ubisoft game - the others being the Prince of Persia trilogy). If they delve further into the RPG aspects, then I'll follow with increasing interest. 7/10 - will play again - just need a palette cleanser. Nice summation DragonKingReborn However does Geralt really smile???? I'd call it more of a grimace.
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Post by OdanUrr on Jul 17, 2019 23:34:45 GMT
I haven't but I'm curious to hear yours to see if it's worth buying. Have you played the first two parts? Just asking so I know what to talk about. Nope. I haven't bought any DLC at all for this game because I didn't want to get burned. That and the season pass has never been discounted to my knowledge.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 17, 2019 23:38:05 GMT
Have you played the first two parts? Just asking so I know what to talk about. Nope. I haven't bought any DLC at all for this game because I didn't want to get burned. That and the season pass has never been discounted to my knowledge. Well, in that case my opinion for the DLC in general is very simple (I'll make a more detailed post later, once some others beat the DLC): Seriously, the two DLC have ruined not just the game for me, but the entire series for the foreseeable future.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jul 17, 2019 23:40:22 GMT
Nice summation DragonKingReborn However does Geralt really smile???? I'd call it more of a grimace. Fair enough - as close as he gets to a smile, then.
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Post by OdanUrr on Jul 17, 2019 23:41:15 GMT
Well, in that case my opinion for the DLC in general is very simple (I'll make a more detailed post later, once some others beat the DLC): Seriously, the two DLC have ruined not just the game for me, but the entire series for the foreseeable future. Wow. That bad, huh? Without spoiling it, could you say what it is they ruined about the series?
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Post by Hrungr on Jul 17, 2019 23:41:20 GMT
Does he specifically ask you to recruit the soldiers or does he just say something like: "And you are going to need all the help you can get"? As he said that yesterday. Yeah, it's an actual quest to recruit something like 8 soldiers from each region. I have already liberated a bunch of them, although knocked out one who fell off a really high cliff, Heh... yeah, a lot of these guys love standing near ledges. There may have been... 3 or 4 "mishaps" in my PT. Also killing the Aegean Queen yesterday the game cheated, I tried to knock her out and the meter said she'd have zero health but then she didn't die and so the damn Kolossi attacked. Or can you not knock her out? That's Atalanta, right? I've knocked her out, I remember carting her body out into the tall grass (and then having to kill her anyway as there's no mind control to break). But I might have Ghost Arrow'd her with a Tranq arrow.
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Post by dazk on Jul 18, 2019 0:42:20 GMT
Also killing the Aegean Queen yesterday the game cheated, I tried to knock her out and the meter said she'd have zero health but then she didn't die and so the damn Kolossi attacked. Or can you not knock her out? That's Atalanta, right? I've knocked her out, I remember carting her body out into the tall grass (and then having to kill her anyway as there's no mind control to break). But I might have Ghost Arrow'd her with a Tranq arrow. It was the first quest Adonis gives you to go to some castle and prove your worth or something. Pretty sure she was just called "The Aegean Queen" but wouldn't bet my life on it. The game seemed to pause for a second when I did it like it wasn't sure, then The Kolossi came to life and she didn't die and started attacking me with zero health. I had a similar thing in the same castle knocking a guard out but his meter showed he should have survived. I have always assumed that meter showing how much damage you'll do when assassinating or knocking out doesn't include your CRIT Chance or Damage as sometimes I would assassinate a guy that it implies won't die (shows the full red bar and some white bar) and they do and other times the exact opposite. I may be misinterpreting it though.
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Post by dazk on Jul 18, 2019 0:53:16 GMT
Well, in that case my opinion for the DLC in general is very simple (I'll make a more detailed post later, once some others beat the DLC): Seriously, the two DLC have ruined not just the game for me, but the entire series for the foreseeable future. Wow. That bad, huh? Without spoiling it, could you say what it is they ruined about the series? With apologies to Hanako Ikezawa OdanUrr I completely disagree with Hanako's opinion, my advice would be to get some feedback from the net to get a sense of it. I am sure Hanako can give their feedback without spoiling the plot though. My opinion for the record is that you are forced into a situation in The Legacy of The First Blade DLC but for me it didn't concern me in the slightest but for others it broke a promise the Dev's had made re choice and in particular about playing the protagonist as a non-heterosexual person. My opinion is purely my personal opinion and as I said it didn't concern me because I was happy to play the game they way the dev's forced the plot, I can see how others may have been annoyed/upset about it but in terms of breaking a promise or misrepresenting a developer promise, for me it was nothing compared to some other instances in other games such as the Witcher and MET.
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Post by Hrungr on Jul 18, 2019 0:56:27 GMT
That's Atalanta, right? I've knocked her out, I remember carting her body out into the tall grass (and then having to kill her anyway as there's no mind control to break). But I might have Ghost Arrow'd her with a Tranq arrow. It was the first quest Adonis gives you to go to some castle and prove your worth or something. Pretty sure she was just called "The Aegean Queen" but wouldn't bet my life on it. The game seemed to pause for a second when I did it like it wasn't sure, then The Kolossi came to life and she didn't die and started attacking me with zero health. I had a similar thing in the same castle knocking a guard out but his meter showed he should have survived. I have always assumed that meter showing how much damage you'll do when assassinating or knocking out doesn't include your CRIT Chance or Damage as sometimes I would assassinate a guy that it implies won't die (shows the full red bar and some white bar) and they do and other times the exact opposite. I may be misinterpreting it though. Yeah, I think something glitched for you with those two. Something like that has happened to me before too, but... ages ago. I remember knocking out that first leader (choke-hold), then dealing with the Kolossi. And you're right, the damage meter over enemy heads doesn't factor in crits (possibly other damage...?).
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Post by OdanUrr on Jul 18, 2019 1:00:33 GMT
Wow. That bad, huh? Without spoiling it, could you say what it is they ruined about the series? With apologies to Hanako Ikezawa OdanUrr I completely disagree with Hanako's opinion, my advice would be to get some feedback from the net to get a sense of it. I am sure Hanako can give their feedback without spoiling the plot though. My opinion for the record is that you are forced into a situation in The Legacy of The First Blade DLC but for me it didn't concern me in the slightest but for others it broke a promise the Dev's had made re choice and in particular about playing the protagonist as a non-heterosexual person. My opinion is purely my personal opinion and as I said it didn't concern me because I was happy to play the game they way the dev's forced the plot, I can see how others may have been annoyed/upset about it but in terms of breaking a promise or misrepresenting a developer promise, for me it was nothing compared to some other instances in other games such as the Witcher and MET. Thanks for your feedback! Have you played the Atlantis DLC yet?
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Post by dazk on Jul 18, 2019 1:06:00 GMT
It was the first quest Adonis gives you to go to some castle and prove your worth or something. Pretty sure she was just called "The Aegean Queen" but wouldn't bet my life on it. The game seemed to pause for a second when I did it like it wasn't sure, then The Kolossi came to life and she didn't die and started attacking me with zero health. I had a similar thing in the same castle knocking a guard out but his meter showed he should have survived. I have always assumed that meter showing how much damage you'll do when assassinating or knocking out doesn't include your CRIT Chance or Damage as sometimes I would assassinate a guy that it implies won't die (shows the full red bar and some white bar) and they do and other times the exact opposite. I may be misinterpreting it though. Yeah, I think something glitched for you with those two. Something like that has happened to me before too, but... ages ago. I remember knocking out that first leader (choke-hold), then dealing with the Kolossi. And you're right, the damage meter over enemy heads doesn't factor in crits (possibly other damage...?). Hadn't thought of the other damage, I have a massive amount of poison damage so maybe that's a factor to???? Think I mentioned before, I also had my first fall through a crack in the world at the start of the DLC. Was climbing a rockface and went right and slipped between the rock face and a pillar!!!!! When I was about to even sail to meet Alethea, Kass forgot to "Mind The Gap" and fell/got stuck between the wharf and The Adrestia and had the same thing and then a desynch. So hopefully no more now!!!!! Ooooppps "Mind The Gap" Between a rock and a hard place!!!
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Post by colfoley on Jul 18, 2019 1:12:24 GMT
As an overall reaction; the clue was in the name of the game. Odyssey - it's about the journey, not necessarily its ending. I liked the ending, the Cult being - almost a side-note to Kassandra regaining her family and finally having roots to put down. But the journey or the odyssey she went on to reach that end was the games strength, for me. Yes, there was plenty of repetitive busy work. But it was - for the most part - fun repetition. And logical. The game is gorgeous, and that helps, but it never loses sight of the fact that a game needs to be fun to be "good", and this one was. On sitting down for dinner with Kassandra's family I felt a sense of satisfaction. I wasn't blown away, just...content. Almost everything to that point had been a tense and/or exciting and very well put together. I was left with - on a smaller scale - the same sense of my character finally pausing to exhale that I had in the final scene of the Witcher 3:Blood and Wine, when Geralt turns to the camera and smiles. I will start the final Atlantis chapter tonight, probably but once that is done, I'll be putting this down for a while. I don't regret the time I spent in Kassandra's shoes, but there is a whole lot of game here. I think I need some time before running into it again, despite the fact that I now have a good handle on how it all works so won't have to go through the learning curve of the early game again. It's not Dragon Age. It's not the Witcher. But it was very good. If Ubisoft stick with this style, then fine - I'll probably check out the next Assassin's Creed (this was my first Creed game and only my fourth Ubisoft game - the others being the Prince of Persia trilogy). If they delve further into the RPG aspects, then I'll follow with increasing interest. 7/10 - will play again - just need a palette cleanser. It always fascinates me the way even individuals rating scales can vary quite greatly. Granted I usually rank/ categorise my entertainment into 'tiers' that way I am not driving myself mad deciding 'is this game an 8...or an 8.2.' and I find my opinion on how good a game's grade is, that precisely, can vary greatly depending on mood...hence the tiers. But even then I wouldn't consider a '7/10' a game that I would be especially eager to replay. That is almost down there with those games that I wouldn't really ever play again. The closer to 7/6 the less likely the closer to 8 and above the more likely.
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Post by dazk on Jul 18, 2019 1:13:02 GMT
With apologies to Hanako Ikezawa OdanUrr I completely disagree with Hanako's opinion, my advice would be to get some feedback from the net to get a sense of it. I am sure Hanako can give their feedback without spoiling the plot though. My opinion for the record is that you are forced into a situation in The Legacy of The First Blade DLC but for me it didn't concern me in the slightest but for others it broke a promise the Dev's had made re choice and in particular about playing the protagonist as a non-heterosexual person. My opinion is purely my personal opinion and as I said it didn't concern me because I was happy to play the game they way the dev's forced the plot, I can see how others may have been annoyed/upset about it but in terms of breaking a promise or misrepresenting a developer promise, for me it was nothing compared to some other instances in other games such as the Witcher and MET. Thanks for your feedback! Have you played the Atlantis DLC yet? I have just started so can't really comment yet on it. But having gone through ME3's ending I am not sure anything this DLC throws at me will phase me too much but admittedly for me that was like a WTF moment and then I moved on and could still appreciate the thousand plus hours of enjoyment ME3 gave me. I think Ubi have done a really great job for only their second attempt at an RPG with choices, I think they can only get better and I am sure they have learnt from the aforementioned issue. I am a huge MET/MEA/DA fan and whilst they haven't managed the depth of relationship's those games have evolved to and the complexity of choice they contain they are certainly on the right path.
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