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Post by Iakus on Dec 16, 2018 20:04:15 GMT
I don't want to play the Inquisitor again at all. That part of the story's done.
I want to play someone new, who might (or might not) work alongside the Inquisition. new story. New leg of the journey.
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Post by anarchy65 on Dec 16, 2018 20:38:30 GMT
For those who want the inquisitor as MC, I would love to know how my Inquisitor would be a double-dagger rogue or a two-handed warrior.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 16, 2018 20:52:03 GMT
For those who want the inquisitor as MC, I would love to know how my Inquisitor would be a double-dagger rogue or a two-handed warrior. As explained before, prosthetic hand.
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Post by anarchy65 on Dec 16, 2018 21:01:20 GMT
For those who want the inquisitor as MC, I would love to know how my Inquisitor would be a double-dagger rogue or a two-handed warrior. As explained before, prosthetic hand. On medieval times? Damn, why they didn't warn Jaime Lannister about that?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 16, 2018 21:07:02 GMT
As explained before, prosthetic hand. On medieval times? Damn, why they didn't warn Jaime Lannister about that? Yes in medieval times. We have cases in our own history where they existed, like this: and we didn't have things like magic or the engineering expertise of dwarves and qunari. Bioware has even played with the idea before, like the contraption you see if we become a Red Jenny, the hand you see in the Qunari's base in Trespasser, and how The Iron Bull almost had one until really late in development.
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Post by anarchy65 on Dec 16, 2018 21:13:10 GMT
On medieval times? Damn, why they didn't warn Jaime Lannister about that? Yes in medieval times. We have cases in our own history where they existed, like this: and we didn't have things like magic or the engineering expertise of dwarves and qunari. Bioware has even played with the idea before, like the contraption you see if we become a Red Jenny, the hand you see in the Qunari's base in Trespasser, and how The Iron Bull almost had one until really late in development. Well, this hand is from the 16th century, so technically it's not from medieval ages But even so, I doubt he could use a sword or a dagger as well as someone with a real arm. It just wouldn't work for our inquisitor. Unless they create some deus ex machina like "MAGIC". Also, this is not a mechanical arm for Iron Bull, is almost as if he had a blade on the place of the arm. For a side character it's ok
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 16, 2018 21:17:16 GMT
Yes in medieval times. We have cases in our own history where they existed, like this: and we didn't have things like magic or the engineering expertise of dwarves and qunari. Bioware has even played with the idea before, like the contraption you see if we become a Red Jenny, the hand you see in the Qunari's base in Trespasser, and how The Iron Bull almost had one until really late in development. Well, this hand is from the 16th century, so technically it's not from medieval ages But even so, I doubt he could use a sword or a dagger as well as someone with a real arm. It just wouldn't work for our inquisitor. Unless they create some deus ex machina like "MAGIC". Also, this is not a mechanical arm for Iron Bull, is almost as if he had a blade on the place of the arm. For a side character it's ok Fair enough, though to be honest Bioware has mixed medieval times with Renaissance for Dragon Age. Well that would explain why we are Level 1 again. The Inquisitor has to relearn everything. And I don't think it would be much of a deus ex machina since there are things in-lore that could explain it. It may be the first but then not many people in Thedas have as many connections as the Inquisitor does.
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Post by Juli on Dec 16, 2018 21:47:48 GMT
Considering we have Dagna as an associate, who's interested in and makes all kinds of weird magical things, I fail to understand why it would be so far-fetched for Inky to get some sort of substitute arm?
Maybe I'm just biased because I'd love to play my Inquisitor again in DA4, but my first thought after finishing Trespasser was "Well, Dagna is gonna sort that mess out for me."
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 16, 2018 21:55:26 GMT
Considering we have Dagna as an associate, who's interested in and makes all kinds of weird magical things, I fail to understand why it would be so far-fetched for Inky to get some sort of substitute arm? Maybe I'm just biased because I'd love to play my Inquisitor again in DA4, but my first thought after finishing Trespasser was "Well, Dagna is gonna sort that mess out for me." There is also Bianca. After all she built things like a crossbow that is super advanced so she and Dagna together would be able to make something. Or at least work with other people we know and together they create it.
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Post by Iakus on Dec 16, 2018 21:59:39 GMT
And while we're at it, the Inquisitor could just get exposed to some eezo and become biotic...
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Post by witchcocktor on Dec 16, 2018 22:00:57 GMT
And while we are at it, Dagna could make guns, and a power suit for us too. Yeah, how about that!
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 16, 2018 22:01:30 GMT
And while we're at it, the Inquisitor could just get exposed to some eezo and become biotic... Reminds me of the theory that Mass Effect and Dragon Age take place in the same universe and people argued Lyrium was Element Zero.
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Post by Starfang on Dec 17, 2018 4:39:42 GMT
And while we are at it, Dagna could make guns, and a power suit for us too. Yeah, how about that! No sarcasm detected here at all.
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Post by colfoley on Dec 17, 2018 5:09:16 GMT
In this vein though one of the biggest personal reasons I don't want to have the Inquisitor come back is so I can play an honest to goodness, longbow wielding, archer. Not a prostetic crossbow arm, no medeval or steampunk guns. An Archer. With two hands.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 17, 2018 5:35:44 GMT
In this vein though one of the biggest personal reasons I don't want to have the Inquisitor come back is so I can play an honest to goodness, longbow wielding, archer. Not a prostetic crossbow arm, no medeval or steampunk guns. An Archer. With two hands. Have the prosthetic limb be shaped and work like a regular hand. There, problem solved. It'd be what they'd most likely do anyway since that would cost the least resources since it'd work for all classes.
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Post by colfoley on Dec 17, 2018 5:39:23 GMT
In this vein though one of the biggest personal reasons I don't want to have the Inquisitor come back is so I can play an honest to goodness, longbow wielding, archer. Not a prostetic crossbow arm, no medeval or steampunk guns. An Archer. With two hands. Have the prosthetic limb be shaped and work like a regular hand. There, problem solved. It'd be what they'd most likely do anyway since that would cost the least resources since it'd work for all classes. That could work. I do wonder if a magical prostetic hand like Voldemort gave Wormtail in Goblet of Fire would be possible with DA lore either. That would be cool, and maybe a bit of a nod to the magical nature of the anchor.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 17, 2018 5:43:29 GMT
Have the prosthetic limb be shaped and work like a regular hand. There, problem solved. It'd be what they'd most likely do anyway since that would cost the least resources since it'd work for all classes. That could work. I do wonder if a magical prostetic hand like Voldemort gave Wormtail in Goblet of Fire would be possible with DA lore either. That would be cool, and maybe a bit of a nod to the magical nature of the anchor. Yeah, there are lots of ways they can go with it. More magic-based like the example you gave, more technology-based like for example automail in Fullmetal Alchemist, a mixture of the two like Yang's arm in RWBY, etc.
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Post by TabithaTH on Dec 17, 2018 13:11:46 GMT
I hope they’ll bring back the Inquisitor in some playable capacity, but ultimately I think it’s just simpler for them to make a new PC. They have to consider how new players will react and for them it would be easier to just have to think about one character. Especially since the Inquisitor has an established relationship with Solas that a new player will not have any prior investment in.
While I would prefer more, I honestly think I’d be satisfied with only hearing about my Inquisitor and their love/hate/friendship with Solas and then maybe a single choice/scene in the very end were they react to whatever fate Solas suffers at the hand of the new PC.
I have to admit that it would be fun to see just how far a “brainwashed” Solavellan would go to save her Beau. Though I'd prefer it to be my choice and not theirs.
Edit: It’s been many many years by now, so i can’t remember exactly how I felt about it at the time. But I do remember that the game Dreamfall: the Longest journey had one scene in which two playable characters met and talked. Make what you will of it, but it has been done at least once:
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Post by Sifr on Dec 17, 2018 13:30:25 GMT
And while we are at it, Dagna could make guns, and a power suit for us too. Yeah, how about that! It's not like Dwarves haven't already invented them before.
Golems are pretty much Dwarves who've been permanently fused (body and soul) into a set of power armour.
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Post by phoray on Dec 18, 2018 16:49:49 GMT
TabithaTHMore recently, the multiple Protagonists (there were three) talking to each other was done in Detroit Become Human. It was only odd in my head, especially the first time I played, because the characters were so different and wanted different things. Protag A: Join us and our rebellion for all these good reasons Protag B: I should not join for all these not as good reasons And then I had to decide if I had argued well enough against my own points to decide if B should join the Rebellion. I had to tease out whether I was having B join because I liked A better and didn't want them to fight or what... So it was hard to stay in character for both people in a rapid fire conversation of conflicting desires. But imagine if that was happening between Inky (who wanted to Redeem Solas) and New PC (who, not knowing him, is all for the Kill route). If Inky was selected as Redeem in Trespasser but New PC said, "no kill", surely Inky would try to stop New PC. It's a bit like Tali just standing there while Shepard gives the Geth full AI otherwise (and that was surreal) It'd be cool if New PC had to kill a Redemption Inky to get to kill Solas. Or if Inky is also Kill, they get to join together for final battle.
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 18, 2018 18:36:08 GMT
phoray I loved that scene and others like it and wouldn't mind something similar if the new protagonist and the Inquisitor were to meet up. In DBH I played every character as "in-character" as I could, but I've seen people who deliberately sabotage themselves when playing as one character because they think that'll benefit the other character LOL.
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Post by phoray on Dec 18, 2018 18:42:23 GMT
phoray I loved that scene and others like it and wouldn't mind something similar if the new protagonist and the Inquisitor were to meet up. In DBH I played every character as "in-character" as I could, but I've seen people who deliberately sabotage themselves when playing as one character because they think that'll benefit the other character LOL. I know >_< the struggle is real. I have to admit I failed the first time and did let Protag B join the Rebellion because I liked the idea of them not killing each other and working together, rather than actually RP how that character would actually do things. Although I hadn't played Connor as a Hardcore Robot person, so it wasn't completely out of character, but I'm not sure Marcus actually argued that well. To join the rebellion meant I had to give Connor's doubts so far a bit of a tighter leash on him than I had initially thought they had. I went on to play a super Robot Connor (sad sad experience) and ended up meetin Marcus on the battlefield during the Violent Rebellion path. Of course I picked control of Marcus at that point-- A Robot Connor who would let Hank kill himself wasn't one I wanted to live. HA! but again, that was my Player Choice on that front, of preferring one character to another. It's a fun and unique struggle to have, and I wish people had given that game a shot. It stands in my mind as in my top 3 Video games.
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 18, 2018 18:50:22 GMT
phoray I loved that scene and others like it and wouldn't mind something similar if the new protagonist and the Inquisitor were to meet up. In DBH I played every character as "in-character" as I could, but I've seen people who deliberately sabotage themselves when playing as one character because they think that'll benefit the other character LOL. I know >_< the struggle is real. I have to admit I failed the first time and did let Protag B join the Rebellion because I liked the idea of them not killing each other and working together, rather than actually RP how that character would actually do things. Although I hadn't played Connor as a Hardcore Robot person, so it wasn't completely out of character, but I'm not sure Marcus actually argued that well. To join the rebellion meant I had to give Connor's doubts so far a bit of a tighter leash on him than I had initially thought they had. I went on to play a super Robot Connor (sad sad experience) and ended up meetin Marcus on the battlefield during the Violent Rebellion path. Of course I picked control of Marcus at that point-- A Robot Connor who would let Hank kill himself wasn't one I wanted to live. HA! but again, that was my Player Choice on that front, of preferring one character to another. It's a fun and unique struggle to have, and I wish people had given that game a shot. It stands in my mind as in my top 3 Video games. Oh, I prefer deviant Connor too. 👀 There are a lot of instances of this in the game - like you said, there's the RoboCop versus RoboJesus fight if you keep Connor more android - and I don't think that's OOC at all, but I'm thinking of that chase scene that can happen when Kara and Alice are trying to get away from Connor..... soooo many LPers made Connor into a doofus during that scene because they genuinely thought Kara was about to be caught. I agree that it was a lot of fun! I've done the "good" ending, the aforementioned fighty ending, and I've ended up where Connor joined the rebellion but shot himself when Cyberlife tried to regain control. 😥 And that's just the tip of the iceberg for how that game can turn out, sweet baby jesus.
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Post by phoray on Dec 18, 2018 18:55:37 GMT
I know >_< the struggle is real. I have to admit I failed the first time and did let Protag B join the Rebellion because I liked the idea of them not killing each other and working together, rather than actually RP how that character would actually do things. Although I hadn't played Connor as a Hardcore Robot person, so it wasn't completely out of character, but I'm not sure Marcus actually argued that well. To join the rebellion meant I had to give Connor's doubts so far a bit of a tighter leash on him than I had initially thought they had. I went on to play a super Robot Connor (sad sad experience) and ended up meetin Marcus on the battlefield during the Violent Rebellion path. Of course I picked control of Marcus at that point-- A Robot Connor who would let Hank kill himself wasn't one I wanted to live. HA! but again, that was my Player Choice on that front, of preferring one character to another. It's a fun and unique struggle to have, and I wish people had given that game a shot. It stands in my mind as in my top 3 Video games. Oh, I prefer deviant Connor too. 👀 There are a lot of instances of this in the game - like you said, there's the RoboCop versus RoboJesus fight if you keep Connor more android - and I don't think that's OOC at all, but I'm thinking of that chase scene that can happen when Kara and Alice are trying to get away from Connor..... soooo many LPers made Connor into a doofus during that scene because they genuinely thought Kara was about to be caught. I agree that it was a lot of fun! I've done the "good" ending, the aforementioned fighty ending, and I've ended up where Connor joined the rebellion but shot himself when Cyberlife tried to regain control. 😥 And that's just the tip of the iceberg for how that game can turn out, sweet baby jesus. oh gosh! I'd totally forgotten that part! When we were "looking" for Kara in the hut with the Deviant and I was like... um... I don't want to find her? LOL You can't not startle them out of the stairwell, but then the chase scene started and the whole time I'm like, "I don't want to catch...myself?" So when Hank told me to stop I was like, "okay, My Connor listens to Orders. Stopping thing I didn't want to do now." Later my Robo Cop did hop the fence and chase them to their death, essentially. That game is so good. Perfect to point to for multi protaganist handling. Romance was rushed and only for Marcus, though, which made me sad. I wanted that Big Deviant Chocolate Bear as Kara
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 18, 2018 19:06:19 GMT
phorayOMG yes, Luther/Kara made a hundred times more sense than Markus/North. WTF. It's possible for Connor to chase Kara and Alice across the highway and for them all to live, just gotta be speedy with those quicktime events. My reflexes do not appreciate it.
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