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Post by river82 on Jan 29, 2019 22:59:03 GMT
Since when was being right a key component on whether something is, or isn't, speculative? The leak isn't speculative. The shard pricing IS. End of story. You haven't shown how it is. I can come up with a few pricing models of what the armour could cost, and the shard to price ratio could be, just by looking at that image. Which is evidence. So I'm basing my guessing off firm evidence. So how can it possibly be pure speculation?
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Post by monkeylungs on Jan 29, 2019 23:00:10 GMT
And the shard exchange rate is shown where? That is the part we really need to know.
EDIT: We need Shard price data for an informed conversation.
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Post by midnight tea on Jan 29, 2019 23:01:21 GMT
In Dragon's Dogma 2000 Rift Crystal pack costs 0.99$, with 4.99$ for 30K Rift Crystals. In ESO 1500 Crown points cost 14,99$ (100.07 points per $) and 5500 go for 39.99$ (137.53 per $). And while I doubt Anthem's shards will be as cheap as Rift Crystals in DD - round premium currency number doesn't mean it's an easily divisible number by $ for a pack, ESPECIALLY that the number of shards/rift crystals/premium currency per dollar will likely get higher the more expensive premium current pack we will pick, which is usually how it's done. Nevermind that lack of round, easily divisible will be even more true for people NOT living in US... Those prices are rounded up generally, the 99c is always to make it look good. It's 2000 rift crystals for a dollar, or 5 dollars for 30k rift cristals, and in ESO it's a hundred to one for those numbers. True, there's usually a discount if you buy in bulk. It's usually round and divisible for the US anyway (unless buying in bulk) and then people can scale currency accordingly. You're missing the point. 2000 for a single dollar example means that 2000 shards don't have to mean 20$ for such pack. Heck, there may not even BE a 2000 pack, like there's not one in ESO (they have 750, 1500, 3000, 5500 14000 and 21000).
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Post by monkeylungs on Jan 29, 2019 23:03:04 GMT
Those prices are rounded up generally, the 99c is always to make it look good. It's 2000 rift crystals for a dollar, or 5 dollars for 30k rift cristals, and in ESO it's a hundred to one for those numbers. True, there's usually a discount if you buy in bulk. It's usually round and divisible for the US anyway (unless buying in bulk) and then people can scale currency accordingly. You're missing the point. 2000 for a single dollar example means that 2000 shards don't have to mean 20$ for such pack. Heck, they may not even BE a 2000 pack, like there's not one in ESO (they have 750, 1500, 3000, 5500 14000 and 21000). yeah there will be a 2500 pack so you have extra Shards to use later ... entice extra spending.
I'm not against this stuff ... I just get how it works. Ain't no hater, I want to see a player get paper!
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Post by monkeylungs on Jan 29, 2019 23:04:32 GMT
The leak isn't speculative. The shard pricing IS. End of story. You haven't shown how it is. I can come up with a few pricing models of what the armour could cost, and the shard to price ratio could be, just by looking at that image. Which is evidence. So I'm basing my guessing off firm evidence. So how can it possibly be pure speculation? We don't know the price of Shards yet ... my educated guess is 2000 Shards = 20USD. I could (and would love to be) wrong. Remains to be seen.
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Post by hawkspian on Jan 29, 2019 23:07:14 GMT
Micro transactions don't bother me one bit. I work hard for good money, this is just another options for me to spend it frivolously, I've spent money on Warframe to buy plat to buy prime warframes and guns off trade chat. I've also spent money before on loot boxes on mass effect three multiplayer. Way I see it is it's an option. If you don't want to spend the money or you can't afford it then don't buy it, it's that simple. How anyone else spends their money and what they buy doesn't affect you in the slightest. Just my two cents. I don't have this much money to spend frivolously on stuff and I think a discussion about predatory practices in mtx is valid...but then again I'm a bit surprised by the pushback I see sometimes, especially of people from US or richer Western countries, given that the idea of buying merchandise to either support the company, or express what they like or just flaunt this stuff around has been rooted in culture for quite some time... Like... if I was to pick 7379817-zillionth t-shirt or 29837908734 mug or even a fancy statue to gather dust on my shelf and aggravate my dust mite allergy, I think I'm just going to find more use from a fancy costume for my game character.... I think "predatory prices" is a bit of a push. Have you been to the movies recently? 2 hours of your time is gonna cost double what a skin in this instance will cost. Or even a night out on the town, most people drop three times the amount a skin here in these speculative leaks are costing. I think £20 is too much for a skin, for what it is, I mean it's a third of what the game is, but if I want something I'm going to buy myself it cos I'm an adult and I earn my own money. I spent £25 on a bottle of wine the other day for a friend. She will drink it in about 30 minutes and then it's gone. £20 and I'd have my skin for ever. But predatory? No. It costs about £90 to get a half decent seat to go watch arsenal play. That's predatory. Also charging thousands of dollars for life saving operations. Real predatory. Because people NEED them to live I'll close with this. The reason these prices are not predatory is because they add nothing to game play, you don't need them to compete. Your game is going to be the same whether you have them or not. It's a choice. I agree it's a tad high. But such is life, everything is getting more expensive. I just paid £20 for some bold washing tablets to do my laundry. That's fucking predatory. I need to wash my cloths. Then shits probably cost £2 to make.
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Post by midnight tea on Jan 29, 2019 23:11:03 GMT
The leak isn't speculative. The shard pricing IS. End of story. You haven't shown how it is. I can come up with a few pricing models of what the armour could cost, and the shard to price ratio could be, just by looking at that image. Which is evidence. So I'm basing my guessing off firm evidence. So how can it possibly be pure speculation? Guessing = conjecture = speculation. No amount of using the phrase 'firm evidence' in relation to the screenshot changes the fact that it doesn't establish anything about prices in real money. You yourself say that you can come up with a few pricing models, so... why is it so important to try and portray this as not just speculation?
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Post by monkeylungs on Jan 29, 2019 23:13:09 GMT
I just paid £20 for some bold washing tablets to do my laundry. That's fucking predatory. I need to wash my cloths. Then shits probably cost £2 to make. God save the Queen! England pretty expensive. The only thing that matters is how much is Branston Pickle?
I get a 64 load container of liquid laundry detergent for about 8 bucks. That's like 6 quid or so ...
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Post by hawkspian on Jan 29, 2019 23:17:45 GMT
I just paid £20 for some bold washing tablets to do my laundry. That's fucking predatory. I need to wash my cloths. Then shits probably cost £2 to make. God save the Queen! England pretty expensive. The only thing that matters is how much is Branston Pickle?
I get a 64 load container of liquid laundry detergent for about 8 bucks. That's like 6 quid or so ...
Good god! That's cheap. I saw a clip on YouTube of Bill Gate$ on the Ellen show and he was guessing the prices of every day grocery store items and the laundry tablets on there were like $20 too ha. Who's your contact? I pay £1.65 for small chunk Branston lol
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Post by river82 on Jan 29, 2019 23:23:59 GMT
You haven't shown how it is. I can come up with a few pricing models of what the armour could cost, and the shard to price ratio could be, just by looking at that image. Which is evidence. So I'm basing my guessing off firm evidence. So how can it possibly be pure speculation? Guessing = conjecture = speculation. No amount of using the phrase 'firm evidence' in relation to the screenshot changes the fact that it doesn't establish anything about prices in real money. You yourself say that you can come up with a few pricing models, so... why is it so important to try and portray this as not just speculation? Important? Not so much, just a quirk. In language we have our all purpose general words, and we have our more specific words. All purpose words tend to be very vague, but because of this we can use them in a variety of situations. Words like 'went' or 'put' or 'go' are words like this. You can 'go' to the farm and it could take 20 days because you 'went' by bicycle, or it could take 5 hours because you 'went' by plane. They can convey an idea, but they don't paint a very specific image, which is why you won't likely see them in fiction very much. To 'guess' is an all purpose general word. It means you don't know if your conclusions are correct because there isn't enough evidence to be sure of that. This word can encompass a whole range of scenarios from scientific studies where the authors of that study aren't quite sure of their conclusion (educated guess) to someone taking a stab in the dark ("I feel a gust of wind. I guess someone is coming"). You then have your more specific words. These words like "stomp", "strode" all paint a very specific image. Walk and Stomp could mean the same things, or they may not depending. So speculation. Speculation is guessing based on not much at all. It is the musing of future events, the contemplation of life. You walk down the street and speculate on your future, you speculate on your friend's relationship, you speculate that Mrs Higgins, your abusive boss, knows you're trying to take her job because she always glares and shouts at you, but is incredibly nice to your co-worker ... whom you hate. It is a very specific form of guessing, and it conveys a very ... airy fairy process. It is not very analytical based. I like being precise with language, that's all/
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Post by monkeylungs on Jan 29, 2019 23:26:22 GMT
God save the Queen! England pretty expensive. The only thing that matters is how much is Branston Pickle?
I get a 64 load container of liquid laundry detergent for about 8 bucks. That's like 6 quid or so ...
Good god! That's cheap. I saw a clip on YouTube of Bill Gate$ on the Ellen show and he was guessing the prices of every day grocery store items and the laundry tablets on there were like $20 too ha. Who's your contact? I pay £1.65 for small chunk Branston lol It's not a tablet might be why. Just a big ass container of liquid laundry soap. The brand is Sun. It is not as good as say Tide, but it is easily good enough and I only wear my clothes once before washing so it seems good for me.
I used to live in England, and my brother still does (he's a dual US/UK citizen) so I have to have my Branston and my Yorkshire tea, and thanks to my brother I always got the hookup!
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Post by hawkspian on Jan 29, 2019 23:28:51 GMT
Good god! That's cheap. I saw a clip on YouTube of Bill Gate$ on the Ellen show and he was guessing the prices of every day grocery store items and the laundry tablets on there were like $20 too ha. Who's your contact? I pay £1.65 for small chunk Branston lol It's not a tablet might be why. Just a big ass container of liquid laundry soap. The brand is Sun. It is not as good as say Tide, but it is easily good enough and I only wear my clothes once before washing so it seems good for me.
I used to live in England, and my brother still does (he's a dual US/UK citizen) so I have to have my Branston and my Yorkshire tea, and thanks to my brother I always got the hookup!
Yorkshire tea is the only tea. I'm from Yorkshire so I was bottle fed it as a baby and still sip a cup (pinky sticking out obviously) quite regularly !
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Jan 29, 2019 23:31:23 GMT
Why before launch? Let’s say Marvel/Disney want to do a promo for a movie coming out in the summer — say an Iron Man skin. EA and Disney do a deal to offer it in Anthem in June, but Disney requires a $20 cut, even though the max established at launch of Anthem was $10 for a skin, with the majority being half that price. You think EA should turn down the deal because of some artificial limit set earlier? Even if market testing shows it would sell like hot cakes? Setting any kind of price ceiling would be dumb. Not when the Nike Lebron X sold for $350. There is no upper bound on stupid people and their money. A time table would also be dumb, because co-marketing deals can come at any time That said, the majority of stuff will find natural price points. Pray for high volume, if you want prices to be low on average. Obviously I'm talking about what is going to be in the store at launch, plus the pricing info about the premium currency (which would probably not change aside from sale windows). Right now the conversation has been thus: Us: Hey Anthem looks fun but what about MTX? Them: Oh MTX is for cosmetics only. Us: Ok cool, can you tell us about the pricing so we know what we're getting into before we pay the $60 to play the game? That makes more sense to me, but whatever levels and conversion rates are established at launch are still subject to change, and not necessarily only in one direction. It will depend on whether they think they can win on perceived value or volume. If they think their initial launch stuff is really cool and unique, prices will start high and fall if volume isn’t meeting targets. If they are unsure of what stuff will resonate, they’ll start low and replace with higher priced stuff as they get more capable/confident.
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Post by hawkspian on Jan 29, 2019 23:31:40 GMT
Guessing = conjecture = speculation. No amount of using the phrase 'firm evidence' in relation to the screenshot changes the fact that it doesn't establish anything about prices in real money. You yourself say that you can come up with a few pricing models, so... why is it so important to try and portray this as not just speculation? Important? Not so much, just a quirk. In language we have our all purpose general words, and we have our more specific words. All purpose words tend to be very vague, but because of this we can use them in a variety of situations. Words like 'went' or 'put' or 'go' are words like this. You can 'go' to the farm and it could take 20 days because you 'went' by bicycle, or it could take 5 hours because you 'went' by plane. They can convey an idea, but they don't paint a very specific image, which is why you won't likely see them in fiction very much. To 'guess' is an all purpose general word. It means you don't know if your conclusions are correct because there isn't enough evidence to be sure of that. This word can encompass a whole range of scenarios from scientific studies where the authors of that study aren't quite sure of their conclusion (educated guess) to someone taking a stab in the dark ("I feel a gust of wind. I guess someone is coming"). You then have your more specific words. These words like "stomp", "strode" all paint a very specific image. Walk and Stomp could mean the same things, or they may not depending. So speculation. Speculation is guessing based on not much at all. It is the musing of future events, the contemplation of life. You walk down the street and speculate on your future, you speculate on your friend's relationship, you speculate that Mrs Higgins, your abusive boss, knows you're trying to take her job because she always glares and shouts at you, but is incredibly nice to your co-worker ... whom you hate. It is a very specific form of guessing, and it conveys a very ... airy fairy process. It is not very analytical based. I like being precise with language, that's all/ Here's monkeylungs and I having a conversation about groceries and I see this and feel stupid and like my teacher just destroyed me with big words haha
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Post by monkeylungs on Jan 29, 2019 23:31:43 GMT
It's not a tablet might be why. Just a big ass container of liquid laundry soap. The brand is Sun. It is not as good as say Tide, but it is easily good enough and I only wear my clothes once before washing so it seems good for me.
I used to live in England, and my brother still does (he's a dual US/UK citizen) so I have to have my Branston and my Yorkshire tea, and thanks to my brother I always got the hookup!
Yorkshire tea is the only tea. I'm from Yorkshire so I was bottle fed it as a baby and still sip a cup (pinky sticking out obviously) quite regularly ! I lived in Harrogate for four years. So many awesome memories.
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Post by monkeylungs on Jan 29, 2019 23:32:59 GMT
Obviously I'm talking about what is going to be in the store at launch, plus the pricing info about the premium currency (which would probably not change aside from sale windows). Right now the conversation has been thus: Us: Hey Anthem looks fun but what about MTX? Them: Oh MTX is for cosmetics only. Us: Ok cool, can you tell us about the pricing so we know what we're getting into before we pay the $60 to play the game? That makes more sense to me, but whatever levels and conversion rates are established at launch are still subject to change, and not necessarily only in one direction. It will depend on whether they think they can win on perceived value or volume. If they think their initial launch stuff is really cool and unique, prices will start high and fall if volume isn’t meeting targets. If they are unsure of what stuff will resonate, they’ll start low and replace with higher priced stuff as they get more capable/confident. The armor sets look pretty dang cool!
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Post by hawkspian on Jan 29, 2019 23:33:33 GMT
Super close to where I am from and now live. Beautiful place is, best British accent, Harrowgate lol
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Post by midnight tea on Jan 29, 2019 23:34:08 GMT
I don't have this much money to spend frivolously on stuff and I think a discussion about predatory practices in mtx is valid...but then again I'm a bit surprised by the pushback I see sometimes, especially of people from US or richer Western countries, given that the idea of buying merchandise to either support the company, or express what they like or just flaunt this stuff around has been rooted in culture for quite some time... Like... if I was to pick 7379817-zillionth t-shirt or 29837908734 mug or even a fancy statue to gather dust on my shelf and aggravate my dust mite allergy, I think I'm just going to find more use from a fancy costume for my game character.... I think "predatory prices" is a bit of a push. Have you been to the movies recently? 2 hours of your time is gonna cost double what a skin in this instance will cost. Or even a night out on the town, most people drop three times the amount a skin here in these speculative leaks are costing. I think £20 is too much for a skin, for what it is, I mean it's a third of what the game is, but if I want something I'm going to buy myself it cos I'm an adult and I earn my own money. I spent £25 on a bottle of wine the other day for a friend. She will drink it in about 30 minutes and then it's gone. £20 and I'd have my skin for ever. But predatory? No. It costs about £90 to get a half decent seat to go watch arsenal play. That's predatory. Also charging thousands of dollars for life saving operations. Real predatory. Because people NEED them to live I'll close with this. The reason these prices are not predatory is because they add nothing to game play, you don't need them to compete. Your game is going to be the same whether you have them or not. It's a choice. I agree it's a tad high. But such is life, everything is getting more expensive. I just paid £20 for some bold washing tablets to do my laundry. That's fucking predatory. I need to wash my cloths. Then shits probably cost £2 to make. A. I'm not necessarily talking about Anthem's microtransactions, just mtx in general B. I'm not just talking about pricing, but the practices surrounding the encouragement of buying microtransactions and so on. And it's a topic for books and yearslong research, not just a few forum posts... And not just adults with their own money play games. Also, I don't remember the last time I was in cinema. The distance to the actual cinema makes the whole endeavor even more expensive than a ticket price, plus I prefer the quiet of my house anyway. But compared to most people living where I live I can't call myself poor - I can afford things many people can't, at this point in time. So it's easy to say that this or that price is less than a night's out or a cinema visit, when a lot of people I know only do that for special occasions with friends and family (or spend on a gift for a friend) and count every (equivalent of) cent to buy cheap groceries every week. Gaming as a hobby is expensive as it is and thanks to manipulative techniques some people may fall into a trap of spending more than they have. Again, I'm not talking about Anthem here - just practice in general if it's designed to be exploitative. As for Anthem - it remains to be seen how much the shards will really cost (because we can't yet tell if it's 20$, £20 or else) and how much grinding people would have to go through to earn as much in in-game currency and how attractive the store content will be. I wouldn't be surprised if BW/EA earned more from cheap things like new materials or graphics rather than full armor cosmetics sets, because that's how it usually is.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Jan 29, 2019 23:37:16 GMT
They did not, the speculation machine is running at full pelt. The speculation on the screenshot is at least a good guess, and at best probably correct. Pricing might not stay but 2000 Shards is more than likely 20USD.
Does this not seem logical to people or am I missing something?
I think it’s wrong based on competitor pricing. The negative reaction to a $20 price point seems to confirm. Even if it *was* right, Bioware might change it, if they are paying attention to the reaction. So we’ll never really know for sure. Whatever it may have been, we’ll see what it actually ends up being Feb 15.
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Post by hawkspian on Jan 29, 2019 23:46:56 GMT
I think "predatory prices" is a bit of a push. Have you been to the movies recently? 2 hours of your time is gonna cost double what a skin in this instance will cost. Or even a night out on the town, most people drop three times the amount a skin here in these speculative leaks are costing. I think £20 is too much for a skin, for what it is, I mean it's a third of what the game is, but if I want something I'm going to buy myself it cos I'm an adult and I earn my own money. I spent £25 on a bottle of wine the other day for a friend. She will drink it in about 30 minutes and then it's gone. £20 and I'd have my skin for ever. But predatory? No. It costs about £90 to get a half decent seat to go watch arsenal play. That's predatory. Also charging thousands of dollars for life saving operations. Real predatory. Because people NEED them to live I'll close with this. The reason these prices are not predatory is because they add nothing to game play, you don't need them to compete. Your game is going to be the same whether you have them or not. It's a choice. I agree it's a tad high. But such is life, everything is getting more expensive. I just paid £20 for some bold washing tablets to do my laundry. That's fucking predatory. I need to wash my cloths. Then shits probably cost £2 to make. A. I'm not necessarily talking about Anthem's microtransactions, just mtx in general B. I'm not just talking about pricing, but the practices surrounding the encouragement of buying microtransactions and so on. And it's a topic for books and yearslong research, not just a few forum posts... And not just adults with their own money play games. Also, I don't remember the last time I was in cinema. The distance to the actual cinema makes the whole endeavor even more expensive than a ticket price, plus I prefer the quiet of my house anyway. But compared to most people living where I live I can't call myself poor - I can afford things many people can't, at this point in time. So it's easy to say that this or that price is less than a night's out or a cinema visit, when a lot of people I know only do that for special occasions with friends and family (or spend on a gift for a friend) and count every (equivalent of) cent to buy cheap groceries every week. Gaming as a hobby is expensive as it is and thanks to manipulative techniques some people may fall into a trap of spending more than they have. Again, I'm not talking about Anthem here - just practice in general if it's designed to be exploitative. As for Anthem - it remains to be seen how much the shards will really cost (because we can't yet tell if it's 20$, £20 or else) and how much grinding people would have to go through to earn as much in in-game currency and how attractive the store content will be. I wouldn't be surprised if BW/EA earned more from cheap things like new materials or graphics rather than full armor cosmetics sets, because that's how it usually is. I totally understand what you're saying. I was just making a point of how expensive things are these days and gaming is no different, it's an expensive hobby. A past time that you can enjoy and these skins in any game do not affect the game, it's not DLC, you don't have to buy them to progress in the game. It's a simple choice, supply and demand, some people will pay, some won't, some will complain and still pay (like myself). The whole practice of micro transactions is just how gaming is evolving. You used to get a game and that's it. No internet connection, game breaking bug? Tough. Game too easy or too hard? Tough. Want a new shiny skin for your character? Tough. It's the world we live in. I think micro transactions are a good thing, they keep games fresh, and keep people playing. It's all about choice and that's the world we live in.
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Post by monkeylungs on Jan 29, 2019 23:48:41 GMT
The speculation on the screenshot is at least a good guess, and at best probably correct. Pricing might not stay but 2000 Shards is more than likely 20USD.
Does this not seem logical to people or am I missing something?
I think it’s wrong based on competitor pricing. The negative reaction to a $20 price point seems to confirm. Even if it *was* right, Bioware might change it, if they are paying attention to the reaction. So we’ll never really know for sure. Whatever it may have been, we’ll see what it actually ends up being Feb 15. Yeah we need to know how much real money Shards cost. Based on that picture though ... 20USD Javelin armor pack, 12USD Emote, 8USD Texture type ,4 USD little decal thingy. Maybe it's like 10, 6, 4, and 2? Maybe it's just really weird and confusing. Like 17 days until we hopefully find out.
Let's see if the cash shop is up for the EA Access crowd. Hope it is and I hope all of you guessing lower on this round of the price is right are correct. I want to be wrong here even if I don't care how much they sell any of this stuff for.
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Post by midnight tea on Jan 30, 2019 0:12:15 GMT
I totally understand what you're saying. I was just making a point of how expensive things are these days and gaming is no different, it's an expensive hobby. A past time that you can enjoy and these skins in any game do not affect the game, it's not DLC, you don't have to buy them to progress in the game. It's a simple choice, supply and demand, some people will pay, some won't, some will complain and still pay (like myself). The whole practice of micro transactions is just how gaming is evolving. You used to get a game and that's it. No internet connection, game breaking bug? Tough. Game too easy or too hard? Tough. Want a new shiny skin for your character? Tough. It's the world we live in. I think micro transactions are a good thing, they keep games fresh, and keep people playing. It's all about choice and that's the world we live in. I agree with the gist of what you're saying, I'm not against mtx per se and I do see it as a practice that simply replaces older monetization practices from different times, both for good and bad - my point is that we should keep an eye on whether individual applications of such practice (as with any other monetization scheme across all of the market) remain within acceptable limits of fairness and for them to truly be about choice (or people expressing appreciation for the company by supporting them that way), because it ain't always that way. It remains to be seen what will be the case with Anthem - so far I don't have many reasons to grouse and things *can* always change during the lifespan of the game...
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Post by monkeylungs on Jan 30, 2019 0:41:36 GMT
if it means we keep getting tons of updates and additions and new story stuff for everyone without having to buy season passes and dlc and i don't have to worry that my brother won't have the dlc to be able to play the game with me i say bring on the microtransactions.
i had to buy my brother the expansions for destiny 2 so we could play them together. and i will be the first to admit that shit wasn't the pinnacle of storytelling but i'll be damned if it wasn't an amazing experience sharing it like that with someone i barely get to see.
anthem can be the same kind of experience which is why i hope is succeeds. this is also why the infinite loading screens are such a sore spot for me. people aren't going to play shit that doesn't work.
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Post by MegaIllusiveMan on Jan 30, 2019 1:45:08 GMT
I mean, I won't go "Fuck EA" or something like that, because they're not forcing me to buy it.
But I *can* give my opinion about it, and I feel that's overpriced as hell for just a skin on a $60 game. I mean, sure, Fortnite, Destiny, SWTOR and what not get overpriced (or somewhat priced) skins, but those are free games. Anthem just isn't. Sure, all future DLC that will come out will be free, but I guess that's what we would've expect when EA is assuming that policy on their games for some time now.
And those skins don't even look good, IMHO.
And oh, that's $60 for you in the US. Here in Brazil, the local currency is almost 4 times the dollar price and many people already find some game's prices just insulting. I don't get their math, TBH, because it's not like the same people that would buy skins for, say, $4 are the same that would buy for $20.
We can get these items with in-game currency as well, but so far I haven't seen much comment about currency progression in-game, so that's what Ican say about it as of now.
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Post by adema360 on Jan 30, 2019 2:02:55 GMT
based on some other games, I find it likely that skins will be ~5-10 USD (20 is ridiculous), and those prices sometimes are based on rarity, the only time you see stuff like 20+ USD is if someone is buying a whole set, so the entire 'guardian' or 'dreadnaught' series for all the javelins combined.
as for pricing I see something like 2 USD == 200/5 USD == 500, 10 USD == 1100, 20 USD == 2400/25 USD == 3000, and 50 USD == 6500
emotes should never break 200 and materials should never break 100, (yes I'm aware an emote is something you see for a couple seconds at a time, and a material is always present, just giving my impressions), and lastly decal and vinyl also shouldn't break 200-250.
With that said I think the industry is really overpriced, but these prices I mentioned seem to fit into norms.
On a side note, all sweat currency amounts are way out of proportion, they need to be way more realistic, or have a mechanism to earn lots on a weekly basis like (guaranteed 10k each week with no cap on credits)
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