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Post by bshep on Mar 2, 2019 22:44:36 GMT
Bioware has a obligation to fix bugs and exploits but if this guy was cheating i don't think he should just get off with a pat on the back.
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 2, 2019 22:46:22 GMT
Seems to be a developing story. There are reports of one banned person already being 'un-banned' with a 'don't do it again' message. Community managers seem to be all over it.
Youtubers or streamers encouraging and teaching exploits does seem scummy though. What individuals do to ruin their own game is up to them.
Ultimately down to BioWare to plug the holes and I think they should.
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Post by NotN7 on Mar 2, 2019 22:52:31 GMT
Sorry but he deserved to be banned, if he was a responsible person he would have informed Bioware of it, BUT! no the punk tried to exploit it and guess what? fucking got caught. let him rot!!!! and he could be the pillar of the gaming community but sorry I have known of several so called pillars who have got caught for far worst I.e. hands up little girls skirts solicitation for prostitution etc so he doesn't deserve a free ride.
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Post by ahglock on Mar 3, 2019 0:20:09 GMT
Sorry but he deserved to be banned, if he was a responsible person he would have informed Bioware of it, BUT! no the punk tried to exploit it and guess what? fucking got caught. let him rot!!!! and he could be the pillar of the gaming community but sorry I have known of several so called pillars who have got caught for far worst I.e. hands up little girls skirts solicitation for prostitution etc so he doesn't deserve a free ride. Seriously wtf. You make the dude you are seriously pissed at look like a saint with your bull shit.
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Post by correctamundo on Mar 3, 2019 0:21:47 GMT
Yeah, they unbanned the Streamerhouse account but was clear that TOS was broken and they got unbanned as good-will gesture. So don't do it again. And more so don't spread exploits, report them.
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Post by smilesja on Mar 3, 2019 0:23:32 GMT
Seems to be a developing story. There are reports of one banned person already being 'un-banned' with a 'don't do it again' message. Community managers seem to be all over it. Youtubers or streamers encouraging and teaching exploits does seem scummy though. What individuals do to ruin their own game is up to them. Ultimately down to BioWare to plug the holes and I think they should. Yeah these Youtubers shouldn’t get a free pass for encouraging behavior like that.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 3, 2019 0:38:37 GMT
It's not clear to me what rule he broke. What did he exploit? Farming chests in open world is part of the game. A required part in fact, if you are doing the Tombs quest.
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Post by correctamundo on Mar 3, 2019 0:40:15 GMT
It's not clear to me what rule he broke. What did he exploit? Farming chests in open world is part of the game. A required part in fact, if you are doing the Tombs quest. No one is getting banned for opening chests in freeplay.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 3, 2019 0:41:46 GMT
It's not clear to me what rule he broke. What did he exploit? Farming chests in open world is part of the game. A required part in fact, if you are doing the Tombs quest. No one is getting banned for opening chests in freeplay. I should hope not. The video on the previous page, the guy was speculating what got him banned, and that was the biggest thing. I may have misunderstood the point.
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Post by spacev3gan on Mar 3, 2019 0:44:04 GMT
It is funny. I am the guy who is against witchery, I have been worried about it a great deal and I have pointed it out as a problem. Everyone seems to be totally fine with witchery though. "Overreacting", "no pvp", "they are ruining it for themselves".
That is until the first witch's head rolls. Now everyone is praising, hailing and glorifying the witch hunt. What a startling change of attitude.
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Post by correctamundo on Mar 3, 2019 0:51:57 GMT
It is funny. I am the guy who is against witchery, I have been worried about it a great deal and I have pointed it out as a problem. Everyone seems to be totally fine with witchery though. "Overreacting", "no pvp", "they are ruining it for themselves".That is until the first witch's head rolls. Now everyone is praising, hailing and glorifying the witch hunt. What a startling change of attitude. Everyone? Who is Everyone? I looked through the thread and could not see any startling change of attitude.
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Post by spacev3gan on Mar 3, 2019 2:09:17 GMT
Everyone? Who is Everyone? I looked through the thread and could not see any startling change of attitude. I am being ironic and not literal here. But yes, I am surprised to see that most comments after the banning incident I posted were overall in favor of bans or at least condemning exploiters. Something which I did not see before such banning incident. Edit: Maybe it is too early to say, but it feels like the comments switched from condoning exploiters to condemning exploiters.
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Post by simit on Mar 3, 2019 3:18:42 GMT
So they banned Gladd, well guess i can look forward to more D2 content, sweet
That guy solo's some crazy arse shit
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Mar 3, 2019 3:19:58 GMT
Reddit discussion on these two bans. Reddit thread: Why did you ban xGladd for something you fixed 4 days ago?"So for those of you don't know who he is, he is a Destiny youtuber that is known for setting insane world records for Worlds First clears and how fast he has done them. He was just banned from Anthem for doing the chest exploit they patched 4 DAYS AGO! I am not his biggest fan but this is an injust reason to ban him." Reddit thread: (StreamerHouse ban and reinstatement)Reddit thread contains screenshots of EA ban and reinstatement messages.
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Post by correctamundo on Mar 3, 2019 9:07:25 GMT
Everyone? Who is Everyone? I looked through the thread and could not see any startling change of attitude. I am being ironic and not literal here. But yes, I am surprised to see that most comments after the banning incident I posted were overall in favor of bans or at least condemning exploiters. Something which I did not see before such banning incident. Edit: Maybe it is too early to say, but it feels like the comments switched from condoning exploiters to condemning exploiters. My impression is that it's mainly 10k that condones the exploiting. His reasoning seems solid. For my own part I have never condoned exploits. I don't even do it in single player games. Mainly because it breaks the game and takes away any sense of accomplishment. If you exploit you are liable to get banned and if you do get banned it is on you. Now speedrunners do use exploits to break the game in order to reach their clears, that is true, but even then they should be aware and it is still on them. If the onlly thing that was out of the order was opening chests in the open world (which i doubt) then I'm sure his account will be release after a quick review. I do suspect that TOS is very clear about how to handle exploits as a player. That is, report to EA/BioWare and never ever advertise it on YT or show it off on stream etc.
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Post by Coronavirus on Mar 3, 2019 9:19:27 GMT
Sorry but he deserved to be banned, if he was a responsible person he would have informed Bioware of it, BUT! no the punk tried to exploit it and guess what? fucking got caught. let him rot!!!! and he could be the pillar of the gaming community but sorry I have known of several so called pillars who have got caught for far worst I.e. hands up little girls skirts solicitation for prostitution etc so he doesn't deserve a free ride. Hahaha ‘the punk’. Sling his punk ass in jail, this man can’t be allowed to walk the streets he’s a menace to society. Fuck sake man 🤣
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Post by spacev3gan on Mar 3, 2019 11:21:14 GMT
My impression is that it's mainly 10k that condones the exploiting. His reasoning seems solid. (...) The vast majority of comments before the banning incident showed no urgency in the matter of exploiting. "Overreacting", "no worry, Bioware will try to fix it", "There is no PVP", "Why would this affect anyone?", "They will move to other games by the weekend", etc. Again, no urgency, no major concerns, arguing there is no PVP, let's just wait for Bioware to fix it, exploiters will tire, no condemnation for people promoting exploits on video, etc. Overall, no major worries in the matter, let alone call for bans. After I posted about that particular ban incident, what we see on the comments: "TOS", "Broke the rules = Ban", "No pat on the back for cheaters", " scummy youtubers and streamers spreading the exploits" (even though I posted 3 videos of people doing that myself, no one called it scummy then), "no free pass for people who encourage exploiting". So yeah, I see I change of attitude here. There was no one calling for a witch hunt back then. In fact, people were not even that concerned about the witchery taking place. Now it seems that most people are all in for the witch hunt.
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Post by Terminator Force on Mar 3, 2019 12:37:22 GMT
Funny how I didn't notice this thread until shortly after the latest patch. Though personally not really interested to check some of the exploits, since part of the fun can be building better loot while enjoying playing the game. They kinda go hand in hand like how certain folk, including myself, started new ME3mp accounts to experience starting over again.
The loot progression system (if done right enough) is also a nice RPG progression system and guess that growth over time is part of the charm.
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Post by lennybusker on Mar 3, 2019 14:23:57 GMT
A permanent ban for an exploit in a PvE only game that ends up only giving out loot faster is stupid. It'd be one thing if you cheated and found a way to give yourself a billion premium currency or something, but simply giving yourself more loot and not impacting anyone else's game? A rollback of the account and a 24 hour smack on the nose would get the job done.
That said Gladd's whiny "b-b-b-but I'm an important streamer and I generate lots of good PR for Anthem, how could you do this to me" is the maybe the douchebaggiest thing I've ever seen.
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Post by ahglock on Mar 3, 2019 15:08:38 GMT
A permanent ban for an exploit in a PvE only game that ends up only giving out loot faster is stupid. It'd be one thing if you cheated and found a way to give yourself a billion premium currency or something, but simply giving yourself more loot and not impacting anyone else's game? A rollback of the account and a 24 hour smack on the nose would get the job done. That said Gladd's whiny "b-b-b-but I'm an important streamer and I generate lots of good PR for Anthem, how could you do this to me" is the maybe the douchebaggiest thing I've ever seen. Even that sounds too much imo. A hack is one thing exploiting a loop hole is another. If you find out you can kill a boss at the end of a raid, log out, log back in and the boss and his loot is back without having to fight through the raid and you want to exploit that. Well good on you. Game company x should fix that at some point. I have no desire to watch his video so I’ll take your word on the last bit.
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Post by 10k on Mar 3, 2019 15:52:10 GMT
From my understanding of the whole Gladd banning, and correct me if I'm wrong, is he found that chest in freeplay gave him better loot due to a bug. I don't see how he should have been banned for this. The bug is BW's problem, they should have fixed it before people could exploit it. It's a looter shooter, people are going to find ways to get the best loot the fastest way possible. They banned him for farming chest. He didn't glitch or cheat, he simply opened chest in freeplay. Like I said before, It's PVE. Gladd having the best loot in the game does not affect anyone else or break the game. He actively farmed for that loot. This "exploit" didn't break the game, or the in game economy, so I don't see a problem.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Mar 3, 2019 16:35:09 GMT
Good question if he broke the rules, he should be banned. Yes.... Oh wait, he didn't break the rules. Reading is FUNdamental. /willtoliveonthisplanet
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Post by correctamundo on Mar 3, 2019 16:45:05 GMT
Good question if he broke the rules, he should be banned. Yes.... Oh wait, he didn't break the rules. Reading is FUNdamental. /willtoliveonthisplanet Do you have any actual proof to back up that claim?
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Mar 3, 2019 16:46:07 GMT
A permanent ban for an exploit in a PvE only game that ends up only giving out loot faster is stupid. Quoted for emphasis. Even if Anthem's launch had been a modest to great success with minimal blocking bugs and a solid elder game loop, this would be stupid. On top of the failed demos, rocky launch, bad reviews, and upswell of legit criticism of the elder game, banning people for exploits is the height of stupidity. I'd fire whoever is in charge of customer relations for such idiocy. If it were me, I wouldn't give any penalty whatsoever -- hell, I'd help gamers advertise the damn exploits! Give a reward for every streamer or tuber that finds a new grind exploit or clip glitch. I'd make an Anthem blog post with the top ten exploits that are likely to be patched. That would make it into a game of cat and mouse with the players. Who can get the most out of the exploits before they are patched out? Talk about an incentive to get people to keep playing your game. Exploits and glitches are a natural and inevitable consequence of the way 3D + AI/scripted games are made. Taking advantage of an exploit is part of the fun of a game, it's an intellectual challenge, not to mention a patience challenge. Patching out exploits is part of the cost of doing business as the game dev. Banning players for doing the QA job of finding those exploits and glitches for you is stupid, stupid, stupid.
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Post by smilesja on Mar 3, 2019 17:56:50 GMT
Good question if he broke the rules, he should be banned. Yes.... Oh wait, he didn't break the rules. Reading is FUNdamental. /willtoliveonthisplanet I said IF he broke any rules he should be banned but apparently he didn’t. Reading is fundamental.
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