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Post by SpiritVanguard on Mar 11, 2017 22:46:15 GMT
"You wants to kill the romance?" (When Anders asks to move in) So I (Georg) did it. Otherwise he was happy about it, just didn't tell to Anders. I spoke about the previous scene (Hawke calmed down him about Justice), I didn't get friendly option before the kiss scene, only two flirt option, if I remember correctly. Non romanced mage Hawke got, but he only answered him sarcastically, just as Georg, but Georg flirted with him. I guess I don't understand then? I was talking about Questioning Beliefs, not the scene after about what happened with Ella -- that just carries over into the QB scene, is what I meant. In QB you have to avoid the flirts and pick the purple option, then the rest of the conversation plays out without romance. One of the flirts will be removed if his romanced is locked out, and for whatever odd reason not replaced with a blue one. I was saying that I'm largely picking blue choices (sorry if I misspoke), but that scene plays out very nicely without flirts, as a "friend."
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2017 0:04:26 GMT
I was early in Act 2, spoke to Anders for the first time and it went something like: Hawke: Hey Anders, let’s catch up a bit. Anders: Oh, I'm the same as always. Meredith is a menace and I fear for my life as well as for my people. Hawke: W-Well... if they want you, they’ll have to go through me. :blush: ;) :blush: Anders: ...I WOULD DROWN US ALL IN BLOOD TO KEEP YOU SAFE So... in this case where I’m playing a Hawke that’s not very... flirty (with a total of 2 flirts selected up to then) I can see how Anders might come on a bit strong. :lol: In my head, though, I'm thinking they likely spent a lot of time together during the 3 year gap, wherein Hawke developed feelings but is inexperienced, uncertain and awkward, and Anders is just more intuitive about such things. But also somewhat awkward himself. :whistle: On that note, I'm getting to the non-mage-specific romance lines about Hawke from Anders, and that's interesting to hear. "The world needs to see men like you. Who do not fear to stand openly at a mage's side." :wub: I had also forgotten how cool the conversation can go with Anders during his Questioning Beliefs after helping him with Ella. It's so sweet how touched he is about Hawke helping and believing in him, how determined and sort of re-affirmed he feels about himself. It's a shame we can't get that before flirting, since the flirts cut it off. :-/ Oh, I loved that line as well, about standing by a mage :)
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Post by SpiritVanguard on Mar 12, 2017 3:28:18 GMT
Hm. Playing Legacy-- Anders: ...The darkspawn taint, the call of the Archdemon... it's inside me, as much a part of me as Justice. Hawke: Maybe there's a cure. Anders: You should find someone else, love. You don't want all the ugliness I'm going to bring into your life. Hawke: I'll take it under advisement. Been a long time since I've romanced Anders with a predominantly Blue Hawke. I had completely forgotten about that bit.
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Post by Catilina on Mar 12, 2017 3:47:14 GMT
Hm. Playing Legacy-- Anders: ...The darkspawn taint, the call of the Archdemon... it's inside me, as much a part of me as Justice. Hawke: Maybe there's a cure. Anders: You should find someone else, love. You don't want all the ugliness I'm going to bring into your life. Hawke: I'll take it under advisement. Been a long time since I've romanced Anders with a predominantly Blue Hawke. I had completely forgotten about that bit. Hehe always want to help! Not boring a bit? (My only diplomatic Hawke finally sided with Templars. Ofc, Anders died. )
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Post by SpiritVanguard on Mar 12, 2017 4:16:20 GMT
Hehe always want to help! Not boring a bit? (My only diplomatic Hawke finally sided with Templars. Ofc, Anders died. ) Blue Hawke isn't so bad, bland at times and too "noble hero" at others (not what I'm aiming for), but I do still pick purple and red options. My other blue Hawke was boring as hell I think because he was the "noble hero" type. That boy had no snap. Too much blue. Had a blue femHawke too, but she had snap.
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Post by Catilina on Mar 12, 2017 4:29:58 GMT
Hehe always want to help! Not boring a bit? (My only diplomatic Hawke finally sided with Templars. Ofc, Anders died. ) Blue Hawke isn't so bad, bland at times and too "noble hero" at others (not what I'm aiming for), but I do still pick purple and red options. My other blue Hawke was boring as hell I think because he was the "noble hero" type. That boy had no snap. Too much blue. Had a blue femHawke too, but she had snap. It is true, the purple Hawke also can be many kind. Its depend on the other color combinations (Reinhardt and Georg was totally different.)
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Post by davesin on Mar 12, 2017 10:07:14 GMT
If your sibling becomes a Grey Warden, do you take that into consideration during the Last Straw and while deciding Anders' fate? I noticed that I tend to spare Anders during such playthroughs, probably out of gratitude (and in "Now we're even" style).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2017 14:22:16 GMT
If your sibling becomes a Grey Warden, do you take that into consideration during the Last Straw and while deciding Anders' fate? I noticed that I tend to spare Anders during such playthroughs, probably out of gratitude (and in "Now we're even" style). In my second PT, Anders did save Carver, but I felt that he would be the first one to tell me to dispense the just punishment on Anders. I have not gotten to the end there, so I don't know if I could have managed to do the deed, but I think my character he way she was played would.
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Post by Catilina on Mar 12, 2017 15:18:06 GMT
If your sibling becomes a Grey Warden, do you take that into consideration during the Last Straw and while deciding Anders' fate? I noticed that I tend to spare Anders during such playthroughs, probably out of gratitude (and in "Now we're even" style). My siblings' fate: Carver mostly Templar, only once was Grey Warden. When I killed Anders, Carver was Templar. (I plan a Grey Warden Carver again, just I don't know, when – Anders will be fugitive, with Hawke, this is clear.) Bethany was once Grey Warden, once Circle Mage. Andes spared. They didn't really count with the sibling's reaction, but seems Bethany likes Anders, Templar Carver can't bear him, and I don't really know, how feel Grey Warden Carver about Anders, I didn't bring him to the Deep Roads in Legacy. Interesting question, but don't forget: Anders left the Wardens, and not really with good conditions.
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Post by davesin on Mar 12, 2017 15:32:24 GMT
They didn't really count with the sibling's reaction, but seems Bethany likes Anders, Templar Carver can't bear him, and I don't really know, how feel Grey Warden Carver about Anders, I didn't bring him to the Deep Roads in Legacy. If I remember correctly, Carver doesn't like Anders regardless of his rank as a Templar or a Warden (because he "doesn't stop talking about being a persecuted mage"). Actually, the same thing can be said about Bethany in Act 2 and 3 - if she is a Warden, she will make snarky remarks about Anders leaving the Order. If she's in a Circle, Anders will accuse her for giving herself into slavery, which doesn't amuse her.
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Post by Catilina on Mar 12, 2017 16:20:21 GMT
They didn't really count with the sibling's reaction, but seems Bethany likes Anders, Templar Carver can't bear him, and I don't really know, how feel Grey Warden Carver about Anders, I didn't bring him to the Deep Roads in Legacy. If I remember correctly, Carver doesn't like Anders regardless of his rank as a Templar or a Warden (because he "doesn't stop talking about being a persecuted mage"). Actually, the same thing can be said about Bethany in Act 2 and 3 - if she is a Warden, she will make snarky remarks about Anders leaving the Order. If she's in a Circle, Anders will accuse her for giving herself into slavery, which doesn't amuse her. Yes, you see well. But still: Bethany likes Anders despite his bitter comment. Bethany have her reason for become Circle Mage and endure her fate because she doesn't want to be a burden, but she doesn't like the Circle, and I think, she see Anders' points, but hurt her. There is the scene when Anders in the deep Roads hear the false calling, and going to lose himself: "Anders, It's going to be all right. We'll help you through this."
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Post by davesin on Mar 12, 2017 16:31:48 GMT
Yes, you see well. But still: Bethany likes Anders despite his bitter comment. Bethany have her reason for become Circle Mage and endure her fate because she doesn't want to be a burden, but she doesn't like the Circle, and I think, she see Anders' points, but hurt her. There is the scene when Anders in the deep Roads hear the false calling, and going to lose himself: "Anders, It's going to be all right. We'll help you through this."Oh, I forgot about this part. Well, Bethany is getting more bitter and bitter as the game progress, so I guess I remembered only the worst parts of her relationship with Anders. If I remember correctly, she's more pro-mage-freedom, more confident about her powers and less bitter about the past after the Kirkwall's Chantry blows up, right?
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Post by Catilina on Mar 12, 2017 16:35:24 GMT
Yes, you see well. But still: Bethany likes Anders despite his bitter comment. Bethany have her reason for become Circle Mage and endure her fate because she doesn't want to be a burden, but she doesn't like the Circle, and I think, she see Anders' points, but hurt her. There is the scene when Anders in the deep Roads hear the false calling, and going to lose himself: "Anders, It's going to be all right. We'll help you through this."Oh, I forgot about this part. Well, Bethany is getting more bitter and bitter as the game progress, so I guess I remembered only the worst parts of her relationship with Anders. If I remember correctly, she's more pro-mage-freedom, more confident about her powers and less bitter about the past after the Kirkwall's Chantry blows up, right? This is her reaction at the Gallows: She finally accept that she's not a burden
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Post by SpiritVanguard on Mar 12, 2017 20:21:26 GMT
I love Aveline's The Long Road quest -- and with your LI present... Hawke: I can't imagine you having trouble speaking your mind. Aveline: It's just... fear. I know it's foolish but I can't get away from it. What about you and Anders? He's all but cursed. How do you live with the danger? Hawke: ... [Anders, standing right next to Hawke, looks over] Hawke: Maybe we're not the best example. Aveline: But you understand. I feel paralyzed. I hate it. Too bad they didn't script anything, it's awkward to just have Anders silently stand there. Staring.
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Post by bolt on Mar 15, 2017 22:09:45 GMT
I love Aveline's The Long Road quest -- and with your LI present... Hawke: I can't imagine you having trouble speaking your mind. Aveline: It's just... fear. I know it's foolish but I can't get away from it. What about you and Anders? He's all but cursed. How do you live with the danger? Hawke: ... [Anders standing right next to Hawke, looks over at him] Hawke: Maybe we're not the best example. Aveline: But you understand. I feel paralyzed. I hate it. Too bad they didn't script anything, it's awkward to just have Anders silently stand there. Staring. All right, I am going to reload an old save and replay that quest just to see this. It sounds priceless.
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Post by SpiritVanguard on Mar 16, 2017 0:45:23 GMT
And so Meredith has been mummified in lyrium defeated and now the fugitive couple will disappear into the sunset go help the other Circles and live happily ever after. It was a good "until next time" run with my precious possessed, imperfect wizard husband before MEA. It really never gets old walking out of the Gallows on Cullen at the end with Anders at Hawke's side. Coincidentally, because I equipped Anders with an accessory that made him immune to being stunned, I was able to finish Meredith off with him (with help from Aveline, because she's unstoppable) and that was just fun. :ulikeit: Finally romancing Anders with a non-mage was different, but I guess it didn't feel wholly different to me than with a mage. Maybe because of the type of Hawke I played. I suppose I didn't feel a "magic" connection between them and maybe there was some "distance" from Justice, but there was still a lot for Hawke and Anders to bond over. This Hawke was quite the dork and I liked seeing Anders bring out the romantic in him, instead of a Hawke that has the hots for Anders. :dirty: ...And I have to admit it was actually quite difficult to not flirt with Zevran even just once this time. But in my head Hawke only has embarrassing flirts for Anders, so it was a worthy sacrifice. Lastly, in MotA Talis seemed to override some of Bethany's banter. Figures, since I don't often have Bethany alive. At least Talis didn't override Anders' "rescue" banter though, because that has happened :srs: and I absolutely did backtrack in saves to trigger it. :dirty:
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Post by Sah291 on Mar 22, 2017 0:55:35 GMT
So Anders, I think he's an example of an INFJ character... What do you all think? www.16personalities.com/infj-personalityI was just trying to think of examples of characters that fit this personality type and Anders came to mind. I've seen some fans list him as an INFP, or ENFP, but I'm not sure those quite fit, especially after Justice.
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Post by Catilina on Mar 22, 2017 1:11:14 GMT
So Anders, I think he's an example of an INFJ character... What do you all think? www.16personalities.com/infj-personalityI was just trying to think of examples of characters that fit this personality type and Anders came to mind. I've seen some fans list him as an INFP, or ENFP, but I'm not sure those quite fit, especially after Justice. Perhaps rather " E", but I'm almost sure, that " J"...
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Post by Sah291 on Mar 22, 2017 2:10:03 GMT
So Anders, I think he's an example of an INFJ character... What do you all think? www.16personalities.com/infj-personalityI was just trying to think of examples of characters that fit this personality type and Anders came to mind. I've seen some fans list him as an INFP, or ENFP, but I'm not sure those quite fit, especially after Justice. Perhaps rather " E", but I'm almost sure, that " J"... Possible. I played (my canon) Hawke as close to ENTP as I could. I'm an INTP myself, and that one is just not possible in most games, although I was able to pull it off surprisingly well with my Inquisitor. Anyway, I'm reasonably certain he's a ~J dominant type, yes.
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Post by Catilina on Mar 22, 2017 2:16:30 GMT
Perhaps rather " E", but I'm almost sure, that " J"... Possible. I played (my canon) Hawke as close to ENTP as I could. I'm an INTP myself, and that one is just not possible in most games, although I was able to pull it off surprisingly well with my Inquisitor. Anyway, I'm reasonably certain he's a ~J dominant type, yes. And Judging, not Perceiving... (I'm ENTP)
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Post by phoray on Mar 22, 2017 2:44:14 GMT
I think I'm going to have to admit. Possibly. That I don't like Anders anymore. And that kinda bums me out. Because I remember being so in love with him. I did two PTs being nothing but mean to him because I was angry. I thought the anger would go away and that I'd come round to loving him again. But now it seems more like bemused indifference.
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Post by Catilina on Mar 22, 2017 2:55:07 GMT
I think I'm going to have to admit. Possibly. That I don't like Anders anymore. And that kinda bums me out. Because I remember being so in love with him. I did two PTs being nothing but mean to him because I was angry. I thought the anger would go away and that I'd come round to loving him again. But now it seems more like bemused indifference. My new Hawke is sexing him and leaving him. Later, I have one Hawke that is meant to go with him as canon and in my Fanfiction. And that may be the end of Anders for me. Sic transit gloria mundi. You will miss here!
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