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Post by pessimistpanda on Jan 19, 2020 21:50:36 GMT
It's not coming out for another 2 years at least, so who the fuck knows or cares about "today's games"? By the time DA4 comes out, they won't be today's games anymore.
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Post by biggydx on Jan 20, 2020 5:51:11 GMT
It's not coming out for another 2 years at least, so who the fuck knows or cares about "today's games"? By the time DA4 comes out, they won't be today's games anymore. I'm kinda laughing my ass off at how r/technicallythetruth this is
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 20, 2020 6:12:50 GMT
Hm... With CD Projekt Red pushback of Cyberpunk 2077 to Sep 2020, the studio announced that its plan for MP is also pushed back.
"Given the expected release of Cyberpunk 2077 in September, and frankly speaking, the series of events which we expect to occur after that date, 2021 appears unlikely as a release date for the Cyberpunk multiplayer," Nowakowski says.
You know, DA4 may be competitive after all... if mgt does not screw up, again. If done right, Bio may even capture a chunk of the MP player base with DA4.
At least CD Projekt Red cared about their game that they want to delay by releasing it on September, so they could do more quality work on CP2077. If BioWare have more passion and love, then Dragon Age and Mass Effect would never be sub par to begin with. How can they care about the game when people weren't saying BioWare cares about their games when they delay them? The mob was attacking BioWare for being bad at game development or hiding the game or any other number of moronic comments when they delay a game, but when CDPR delays the game its all great for them to do it? Personally the other announcement they made makes it sound like to me they don't care about the game since they are delaying it now delay it for twice as long until Spring 2021 so they don't force their employees to work crunch still. For if you go by some of the online community there are employees there working on crunch since before the Anthem crew needed to work crunch. Its the same argument again crunch at BioWare is bad and "soul destroying" and therefore ammunition against the developer and crunch at CDPR no biggie and something to be ignored. For I will give the "press" next week to launch the attacks they did against BioWare with the article from Kotaku to see if they will do a similar approach to the lead of CDPR and give them the same treatment or they are going to prove me right again and what they put on their websites is purely clickbait to con the internet to visit their sites. I plan on deleting a lot of bookmarks next weekend.
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Post by Felya87 on Jan 20, 2020 11:58:17 GMT
I'm of course the minority, but I'm very sceptical about Cyberpunk 2077. The cuts on third person cutscene, first person only, is just a way to work less as possible on customizable models, big delays, fake official videos in the past (remember the V waking up in her appartment? Forget about it, all scrapped).
No, I don't feel positive at all about the game. The only good thing I can think about it is Keanu, and that Luca Ward (Reeves historical Italian voice) will be Silverhand's italian voice.
I don't like The Witcher franchise, in any form, so I have no reason at all to trust CDP.
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Post by shermos on Jan 20, 2020 13:38:20 GMT
@op Bioware games are definitely not what they used to be, but I think it's unfair to ask this question of a game which is nearly 3 years away. I would also argue that the entire Western AAA gaming industry has been in decline in terms of writing quality and overall enjoyability with a few exceptions such as CDPR (which isn't technically a "Western" developer). There are some signs lessons may be being learnt in the industry with the release of a few games like Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order and I hope Bioware is also learning from past mistakes to the extent EA will allow it. 2022/3 is also plenty of time for Bioware to get used to and find work arounds for Frostbite. That bloody engine has been a genuine handicap no RPG developer should have foisted on it least of all an already troubled one.
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Post by biggydx on Jan 20, 2020 18:07:17 GMT
How can they care about the game when people weren't saying BioWare cares about their games when they delay them? The mob was attacking BioWare for being bad at game development or hiding the game or any other number of moronic comments when they delay a game, but when CDPR delays the game its all great for them to do it? It comes down to a couple of things [as to why people give CDPR the benefit of the doubt] 1) BioWare has released several games at this point that have either been embroideled in controversy, or have launched to mixed reception. Because of this, people are less likely to view any developments regarding the studio - and it's games - in a positive light. By contrast, CDPR has largely garnered good-will with the gaming population due to TW3 being a generally well-liked game (including its DLC's), as well as their consumer-friendly practices. 2) BioWare is owned by EA, which generally serves as a mark against the studio 3) People tend to think less critically of things that they like when said thing evokes pleasant experiences within a person. While the general gaming population seems to dislike developer crunch from a surface-level perspective, they're much more likely to tolerate it if they feel it well give them a great experience at the end of the tunnel.
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 21, 2020 5:40:47 GMT
How can they care about the game when people weren't saying BioWare cares about their games when they delay them? The mob was attacking BioWare for being bad at game development or hiding the game or any other number of moronic comments when they delay a game, but when CDPR delays the game its all great for them to do it? It comes down to a couple of things [as to why people give CDPR the benefit of the doubt] 1) BioWare has released several games at this point that have either been embroideled in controversy, or have launched to mixed reception. Because of this, people are less likely to view any developments regarding the studio - and it's games - in a positive light. By contrast, CDPR has largely garnered good-will with the gaming population due to TW3 being a generally well-liked game (including its DLC's), as well as their consumer-friendly practices. 2) BioWare is owned by EA, which generally serves as a mark against the studio 3) People tend to think less critically of things that they like when said thing evokes pleasant experiences within a person. While the general gaming population seems to dislike developer crunch from a surface-level perspective, they're much more likely to tolerate it if they feel it well give them a great experience at the end of the tunnel. I understand that, but if you are going to consider a company a gold standard when they are not any better then the other ones that are being villified. Don't keep trying to tell me how wrong I am because I might like something they don't seems to be disingenuous side of an arguement. Everyone is going to have their own opinions on the subject, but I just get tired of the people that keep talking about how great CDPR is when trying to belittle a person that likes what BioWare is doing. Especially since the "press" is pretty much picking aside on the matter. For that might be their logic and why it works for them, but in reality it shows to me a lack of critical thinking and looking at the entire picture. Now that could be the manager inside of me coming out as well. I think my opinion is just getting salty because people who should know better seem to be more interested in milking their followers for money. Even Jim Sterling to me proved this with his video about the crunch at CDPR where he decided to release a small aside instead of a full Jimquisition for he knows his audience doesn't care. To top that off he tried to me at least make it sound like it was worse at BioWare when he has zero facts on the matter and nine months of crunch is still nine months of crunch. Ah well. Maybe I will start having more faith in humanity after I start purging what I view online which I have started already.
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Post by shermos on Jan 21, 2020 8:33:27 GMT
It comes down to a couple of things [as to why people give CDPR the benefit of the doubt] 1) BioWare has released several games at this point that have either been embroideled in controversy, or have launched to mixed reception. Because of this, people are less likely to view any developments regarding the studio - and it's games - in a positive light. By contrast, CDPR has largely garnered good-will with the gaming population due to TW3 being a generally well-liked game (including its DLC's), as well as their consumer-friendly practices. 2) BioWare is owned by EA, which generally serves as a mark against the studio 3) People tend to think less critically of things that they like when said thing evokes pleasant experiences within a person. While the general gaming population seems to dislike developer crunch from a surface-level perspective, they're much more likely to tolerate it if they feel it well give them a great experience at the end of the tunnel. I understand that, but if you are going to consider a company a gold standard when they are not any better then the other ones that are being villified. Don't keep trying to tell me how wrong I am because I might like something they don't seems to be disingenuous side of an arguement. Everyone is going to have their own opinions on the subject, but I just get tired of the people that keep talking about how great CDPR is when trying to belittle a person that likes what BioWare is doing. Especially since the "press" is pretty much picking aside on the matter. For that might be their logic and why it works for them, but in reality it shows to me a lack of critical thinking and looking at the entire picture. Now that could be the manager inside of me coming out as well. I think my opinion is just getting salty because people who should know better seem to be more interested in milking their followers for money. Even Jim Sterling to me proved this with his video about the crunch at CDPR where he decided to release a small aside instead of a full Jimquisition for he knows his audience doesn't care. To top that off he tried to me at least make it sound like it was worse at BioWare when he has zero facts on the matter and nine months of crunch is still nine months of crunch. Ah well. Maybe I will start having more faith in humanity after I start purging what I view online which I have started already.
While I still believe CPDR is better than most of the AAA industry, Bioware included, you have a fair point re: crunch. Jim Sterling et al should call them out on it more strongly. Jim especially shouldn't pander to his viewers given how much he criticises the industry for putting profit before basic ethics.
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Post by Sartoz on Jan 21, 2020 14:40:46 GMT
I understand that, but if you are going to consider a company a gold standard when they are not any better then the other ones that are being villified. Don't keep trying to tell me how wrong I am because I might like something they don't seems to be disingenuous side of an arguement. Everyone is going to have their own opinions on the subject, but I just get tired of the people that keep talking about how great CDPR is when trying to belittle a person that likes what BioWare is doing. Especially since the "press" is pretty much picking aside on the matter. For that might be their logic and why it works for them, but in reality it shows to me a lack of critical thinking and looking at the entire picture. Now that could be the manager inside of me coming out as well. I think my opinion is just getting salty because people who should know better seem to be more interested in milking their followers for money. Even Jim Sterling to me proved this with his video about the crunch at CDPR where he decided to release a small aside instead of a full Jimquisition for he knows his audience doesn't care. To top that off he tried to me at least make it sound like it was worse at BioWare when he has zero facts on the matter and nine months of crunch is still nine months of crunch. Ah well. Maybe I will start having more faith in humanity after I start purging what I view online which I have started already.
While I still believe CPDR is better than most of the AAA industry, Bioware included, you have a fair point re: crunch. Jim Sterling et al should call them out on it more strongly. Jim especially shouldn't pander to his viewers given how much he criticises the industry for putting profit before basic ethics.
Just remember what "... game needs more polishing.." means in corp speak = game state is in the shiitter. Cyberpunk 2077 being delayed until Sep means crunch has started. Anthem is the best example of this. While technically 2077 is playable, once again I give you Anthem as an example of corp speak.
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Post by samhain444 on Jan 21, 2020 16:45:40 GMT
While I still believe CPDR is better than most of the AAA industry, Bioware included, you have a fair point re: crunch. Jim Sterling et al should call them out on it more strongly. Jim especially shouldn't pander to his viewers given how much he criticises the industry for putting profit before basic ethics.
Just remember what "... game needs more polishing.." means in corp speak = game state is in the shiitter. Cyberpunk 2077 being delayed until Sep means crunch has started. Anthem is the best example of this. While technically 2077 is playable, once again I give you Anthem as an example of corp speak.
They have been "crunching" on Cyberpunk 2077 at CDPR already...the delay just means that they will continue "crunching" until the Sept 2020 release.
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Post by biggydx on Jan 21, 2020 18:44:30 GMT
It comes down to a couple of things [as to why people give CDPR the benefit of the doubt] 1) BioWare has released several games at this point that have either been embroideled in controversy, or have launched to mixed reception. Because of this, people are less likely to view any developments regarding the studio - and it's games - in a positive light. By contrast, CDPR has largely garnered good-will with the gaming population due to TW3 being a generally well-liked game (including its DLC's), as well as their consumer-friendly practices. 2) BioWare is owned by EA, which generally serves as a mark against the studio 3) People tend to think less critically of things that they like when said thing evokes pleasant experiences within a person. While the general gaming population seems to dislike developer crunch from a surface-level perspective, they're much more likely to tolerate it if they feel it well give them a great experience at the end of the tunnel. I understand that, but if you are going to consider a company a gold standard when they are not any better then the other ones that are being villified. Don't keep trying to tell me how wrong I am because I might like something they don't seems to be disingenuous side of an arguement. Everyone is going to have their own opinions on the subject, but I just get tired of the people that keep talking about how great CDPR is when trying to belittle a person that likes what BioWare is doing. Especially since the "press" is pretty much picking aside on the matter. For that might be their logic and why it works for them, but in reality it shows to me a lack of critical thinking and looking at the entire picture. Now that could be the manager inside of me coming out as well. I think my opinion is just getting salty because people who should know better seem to be more interested in milking their followers for money. Even Jim Sterling to me proved this with his video about the crunch at CDPR where he decided to release a small aside instead of a full Jimquisition for he knows his audience doesn't care. To top that off he tried to me at least make it sound like it was worse at BioWare when he has zero facts on the matter and nine months of crunch is still nine months of crunch. Ah well. Maybe I will start having more faith in humanity after I start purging what I view online which I have started already. Don't get me wrong, I understand your point. I agree that, if you're of the belief that crunch is a negative influence on developers (when it takes place at a studio you dislike), you should have the same opinion if it occurs within a studio you do like. I'm just providing reasoning to answer your question. Rationalization is a common mindset many people are willing to take when they don't want to believe the worst is happening to something they like or enjoy. As for your liking of recent BioWare games, it's a part of what happens when a game is released to timid or lukewarm responses. Do I recognize that games like Andromeda, Anthem, or Inquisition have some (or significant) glaring flaws? Yes. Do I think someone should be denigrated for enjoying those games? No. I've been through something similar when I used to play both Battleborn and Destiny. These were two games that were either mired in controversy [Destiny], or were demonized for not living up to their competitor [Battleborn]. You get people telling you, "Oh! Why are you still playing that dead game? You shouldn't be wasting your time on it. You should be playing [insert more popular game] instead." It tends to make you apathetic at times in wanting to continue playing said games, and your enjoyment of gaming in general is lessened as a result. I had to learn to tune those voices out and just enjoy what I like. I ended up racking 800hrs in Battleborn as result, and the team I played with on Xbox was probably the best Battleborn team on the platform. I also still play Destiny, to this day, and as a franchise I've logged in over 4500hrs in playtime. If the game you're playing leads to you having an enjoyable experience, don't feel the need to have to justify yourself to someone else. That's their problem, not yours.
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Post by smilesja on Jan 21, 2020 20:57:35 GMT
I understand that, but if you are going to consider a company a gold standard when they are not any better then the other ones that are being villified. Don't keep trying to tell me how wrong I am because I might like something they don't seems to be disingenuous side of an arguement. Everyone is going to have their own opinions on the subject, but I just get tired of the people that keep talking about how great CDPR is when trying to belittle a person that likes what BioWare is doing. Especially since the "press" is pretty much picking aside on the matter. For that might be their logic and why it works for them, but in reality it shows to me a lack of critical thinking and looking at the entire picture. Now that could be the manager inside of me coming out as well. I think my opinion is just getting salty because people who should know better seem to be more interested in milking their followers for money. Even Jim Sterling to me proved this with his video about the crunch at CDPR where he decided to release a small aside instead of a full Jimquisition for he knows his audience doesn't care. To top that off he tried to me at least make it sound like it was worse at BioWare when he has zero facts on the matter and nine months of crunch is still nine months of crunch. Ah well. Maybe I will start having more faith in humanity after I start purging what I view online which I have started already. Don't get me wrong, I understand your point. I agree that, if you're of the belief that crunch is a negative influence on developers (when it takes place at a studio you dislike), you should have the same opinion if it occurs within a studio you do like. I'm just providing reasoning to answer your question. Rationalization is a common mindset many people are willing to take when they don't want to believe the worst is happening to something they like or enjoy. As for your liking of recent BioWare games, it's a part of what happens when a game is released to timid or lukewarm responses. Do I recognize that games like Andromeda, Anthem, or Inquisition have some (or significant) glaring flaws? Yes. Do I think someone should be denigrated for enjoying those games? No. I've been through something similar when I used to play both Battleborn and Destiny. These were two games that were either mired in controversy [Destiny], or were demonized for not living up to their competitor [Battleborn]. You get people telling you, "Oh! Why are you still playing that dead game? You shouldn't be wasting your time on it. You should be playing [insert more popular game] instead." It tends to make you apathetic at times in wanting to continue playing said games, and your enjoyment of gaming in general is lessened as a result. I had to learn to tune those voices out and just enjoy what I like. I ended up racking 800hrs in Battleborn as result, and the team I played with on Xbox was probably the best Battleborn team on the platform. I also still play Destiny, to this day, and as a franchise I've logged in over 4500hrs in playtime. If the game you're playing leads to you having an enjoyable experience, don't feel the need to have to justify yourself to someone else. That's their problem, not yours. Yeah pretty much the reason why I left this site. Some people are actually shocked that you like a different game than them. For all peoples talk about liking what you like, some of them can amazingly insulted if you show a different opinion.
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Post by river82 on Jan 21, 2020 21:38:18 GMT
*Waits for CDProjekt to explain how this delay isn't actually a delay and anybody who says otherwise is 'creating a narrative'*
*It obviously never comes because they don't treat their consumers like idiots*
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Post by smilesja on Jan 21, 2020 21:44:25 GMT
It doesn't matter, people already made up their minds about the delay anyway.
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Post by river82 on Jan 21, 2020 21:57:09 GMT
It doesn't matter, people already made up their minds about the delay anyway. Sure
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Post by Cyberstrike on Jan 22, 2020 17:01:12 GMT
Don't get me wrong, I understand your point. I agree that, if you're of the belief that crunch is a negative influence on developers (when it takes place at a studio you dislike), you should have the same opinion if it occurs within a studio you do like. I'm just providing reasoning to answer your question. Rationalization is a common mindset many people are willing to take when they don't want to believe the worst is happening to something they like or enjoy. As for your liking of recent BioWare games, it's a part of what happens when a game is released to timid or lukewarm responses. Do I recognize that games like Andromeda, Anthem, or Inquisition have some (or significant) glaring flaws? Yes. Do I think someone should be denigrated for enjoying those games? No. I've been through something similar when I used to play both Battleborn and Destiny. These were two games that were either mired in controversy [Destiny], or were demonized for not living up to their competitor [Battleborn]. You get people telling you, "Oh! Why are you still playing that dead game? You shouldn't be wasting your time on it. You should be playing [insert more popular game] instead." It tends to make you apathetic at times in wanting to continue playing said games, and your enjoyment of gaming in general is lessened as a result. I had to learn to tune those voices out and just enjoy what I like. I ended up racking 800hrs in Battleborn as result, and the team I played with on Xbox was probably the best Battleborn team on the platform. I also still play Destiny, to this day, and as a franchise I've logged in over 4500hrs in playtime. If the game you're playing leads to you having an enjoyable experience, don't feel the need to have to justify yourself to someone else. That's their problem, not yours. Yeah pretty much the reason why I left this site. Some people are actually shocked that you like a different game than them. For all peoples talk about liking what you like, some of them can amazingly insulted if you show a different opinion.
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 22, 2020 18:13:57 GMT
Don't get me wrong, I understand your point. I agree that, if you're of the belief that crunch is a negative influence on developers (when it takes place at a studio you dislike), you should have the same opinion if it occurs within a studio you do like. I'm just providing reasoning to answer your question. Rationalization is a common mindset many people are willing to take when they don't want to believe the worst is happening to something they like or enjoy. As for your liking of recent BioWare games, it's a part of what happens when a game is released to timid or lukewarm responses. Do I recognize that games like Andromeda, Anthem, or Inquisition have some (or significant) glaring flaws? Yes. Do I think someone should be denigrated for enjoying those games? No. I've been through something similar when I used to play both Battleborn and Destiny. These were two games that were either mired in controversy [Destiny], or were demonized for not living up to their competitor [Battleborn]. You get people telling you, "Oh! Why are you still playing that dead game? You shouldn't be wasting your time on it. You should be playing [insert more popular game] instead." It tends to make you apathetic at times in wanting to continue playing said games, and your enjoyment of gaming in general is lessened as a result. I had to learn to tune those voices out and just enjoy what I like. I ended up racking 800hrs in Battleborn as result, and the team I played with on Xbox was probably the best Battleborn team on the platform. I also still play Destiny, to this day, and as a franchise I've logged in over 4500hrs in playtime. If the game you're playing leads to you having an enjoyable experience, don't feel the need to have to justify yourself to someone else. That's their problem, not yours. Yeah pretty much the reason why I left this site. Some people are actually shocked that you like a different game than them. For all peoples talk about liking what you like, some of them can amazingly insulted if you show a different opinion. I find its pretty common anywhere now. Even in general articles when you don't bring up a specific game, but will be fairly general in what you are saying it can open it up to attacks. During the more heated part of the Mass Effect 3 ending issues so about the first two years I was even sent death threats because I was neutral to the endings, but liked the rest of the game so I would hate to be a developer for any kind of video game. If you don't follow "standard internet protocols" when it comes to the developers in question it has just not been worth it. You must hate EA and all its developers, CDPR cannot do wrong, Rockstar should be acknowledged for wrong doings, but don't mention it after a week, etc.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Jan 23, 2020 21:18:23 GMT
“Can DA4 even compete in today’s quality of games?” What, you mean like Fallout 76? Or Ghost Recon: Breakpoint? Or WWE 2K20?
Or like dozens of other AAA and indy games that are out as well?
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jan 24, 2020 5:30:26 GMT
*Waits for CDProjekt to explain how this delay isn't actually a delay and anybody who says otherwise is 'creating a narrative'* *It obviously never comes because they don't treat their consumers like idiots* Except when TW3 released with vastly inferior visuals than the - I think - E3 demo. But they said it "hadn't been downgraded because the game shown at E3 hadn't been released, so there was nothing to downgrade". But in general, yeah, I agree with your position here.
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 24, 2020 14:21:47 GMT
*Waits for CDProjekt to explain how this delay isn't actually a delay and anybody who says otherwise is 'creating a narrative'* *It obviously never comes because they don't treat their consumers like idiots* Except when TW3 released with vastly inferior visuals than the - I think - E3 demo. But they said it "hadn't been downgraded because the game shown at E3 hadn't been released, so there was nothing to downgrade". But in general, yeah, I agree with your position here. The thing is they were at least in my eyes with that E3 demo they knew they did something they should have warned their playerbase of for with Cyberpunk they have put that standard industry banner that the game is still under development and might change. One of the reasons why you have developers making comments like they do is because players and other online personalities take that silence as a reason for them to make a potential untrue narrative that people won't stop saying such as the closure of BioWare Montreal. I think they rather be mocked for what they are asking then have conspiracy theory level theories behind why something was happening.
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Post by SomberXIII on Feb 16, 2020 3:55:13 GMT
OP is funny. He picked the best games in the industry right now and the most anticipated ones, some not even in same genre, to compete against a game that we haven’t even see concrete yet.
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Post by SomberXIII on Feb 16, 2020 4:05:16 GMT
I can share some concerns about DA4 and Bioware. But if one keeps denying DAI, then they probably just tend to deny anything of future Bioware games. In this case I can't discuss seriously. I'm not saying that DAI has no flaw. It has flaws, but it is also one of the best RPGs in this generation. And The Witcher 3 is also deeply flawed if you ask me. Exactly this. MajesticJazz has been like this since the old BSN days. Even if DA4 turned up to be a juggernaut like TW3, they will find criticism and even compare with the games that come out far later in years afterward. If someone’s pretty much against Bioware, they will be like this.
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Post by majesticjazz on Feb 16, 2020 5:25:44 GMT
Doesnt look good for DA4.
wccftech.com/former-bioware-writer-joins-archetype-entertainment-says-bioware-has-become-corporate/
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Post by SomberXIII on Feb 16, 2020 6:01:23 GMT
Why are we having an Anthem discussion in a DA thread? We have a whole section of the forum people like you infected to talk about this. Reading through this thread gives me headaches. A few two or three CPRR-workshipper/Bioware-critics crusading on their ideas, attacking everyone’s opinion which they think being apologists or Bioware defending. Been there since the old BSN days. At the end of the day, none of them gets relevant. Just made a certain people get mad in the heat of the moment, just like the folks who made 5+ replies consecutively. Thanks for popcorns though. 😂
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Post by colfoley on Feb 16, 2020 6:24:51 GMT
Doesnt look good for DA4. wccftech.com/former-bioware-writer-joins-archetype-entertainment-says-bioware-has-become-corporate/ oooh corporate, scary.
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