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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 6, 2022 18:41:56 GMT
Classic ends justify the means nonsense. It's almost like you accept war as inevitable, rather than the result of angry rich people wanting a new or different Oompa Loompa, NOW. Tell me about a war with a clean and obviously pure motive on one side, and filthy dark evil on the other. I want to know this story, I want to believe this story. It didn't ever happen though. There is always hidden subtext, and there are always motives that make no sense to those not in power, and nothing was ever "sacrificed" by the winning or losing side - the only sacrifice was in the individual, and their commitment to the cause that killed them. *If you have to do "questionable things" to win a war, you are a warlord and I want to eat you. *. Tell that to the US when they fire bombed then nuked Japan in WW2. Would if I could. Every person involved in that are absolute monsters and I would call them that to their face. Same with all the other atrocities the Allies committed in WW2 (firebombing of Dresden, Rape of Berlin, etc).
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Post by Cyberstrike on Apr 6, 2022 19:33:16 GMT
That is and will always be the problem with a story continuing from ME3 the endings lead to dead ends and all the while BioWare has MEA where they would have a brand new galaxy to explore and go in any number of ways story (that wouldn't reopen old woulds by fans and have to deal with lot of implications of the endings) with a set of fun and cool characters and be an easier and IMHO a much better story to tell.
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That is and will always be the problem with a story continuing from ME3 the endings lead to dead ends and all the while BioWare has MEA where they would have a brand new galaxy to explore and go in any number of ways story (that wouldn't reopen old woulds by fans and have to deal with lot of implications of the endings) with a set of fun and cool characters and be an easier and IMHO a much better story to tell. I can agree with a lot of this, but there is a serious underlying problem. Despite bringing back some cool things from ME1, like exploration, MEA went the SWTFA route and basically just put the Andromedans in a situation very similar to the Milky Way, just with really generic enemies and horrible level design. It is not something new unfortunately, but an attempt as you noticed of escaping their horrible writing decisions by reinventing the wheel. To heal the galaxies, Liara has to come to Andromeda and bring some damned gravitas to the game with her. If Liam wants to pull any more shenanigans on my ship, it is court-martial/bullet to head/airlock. Period, end of story, or the game is a failure on premise. Do not remove any more agency from the protagonist or I will take my ball and go home :clown:
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Post by hulluliini on Apr 7, 2022 6:18:08 GMT
That is and will always be the problem with a story continuing from ME3 the endings lead to dead ends and all the while BioWare has MEA where they would have a brand new galaxy to explore and go in any number of ways story (that wouldn't reopen old woulds by fans and have to deal with lot of implications of the endings) with a set of fun and cool characters and be an easier and IMHO a much better story to tell. I can agree with a lot of this, but there is a serious underlying problem. Despite bringing back some cool things from ME1, like exploration, MEA went the SWTFA route and basically just put the Andromedans in a situation very similar to the Milky Way, just with really generic enemies and horrible level design. It is not something new unfortunately, but an attempt as you noticed of escaping their horrible writing decisions by reinventing the wheel. To heal the galaxies, Liara has to come to Andromeda and bring some damned gravitas to the game with her. If Liam wants to pull any more shenanigans on my ship, it is court-martial/bullet to head/airlock. Period, end of story, or the game is a failure on premise. Do not remove any more agency from the protagonist or I will take my ball and go home :clown: No worries, if Liara looks old, Liam is long dead. On the other hand, Peebee might still be alive. In any case they have to ditch the Tempest and its crew to make it work in Andromeda.
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Post by hulluliini on Apr 7, 2022 6:30:06 GMT
Oh believe me, I detest the nature of the endings too and wish that the conclusion of the trilogy would have seen us assembling a fleet (following our choices and decisions) and allowing us to save the day and be Big Damn Heroes. Unfortunately the way Casey and Co wanted to write this as their own (poor) version of The End of Evangelion. Given what the narrative gives us to work with, and seeing as how Destroying the Reapers was the stated goal since game 1, I see the Red ending as the best option out of a selection of crappy endings. It would have been nice to have Refuse actually work, based on if we could assemble a large enough fleet plus war assets but alas that is not the case. BioWare was adament on that being the F**K YOU ending for those players that didn't want to go along with their ABC conclusion to the trilogy. If you play MET on PC, there's always the ME3 ending mod that removes Starkid's BS... How does this modded version go exactly? You don't see the starchild at all, just go choose from three options?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 7, 2022 6:59:04 GMT
I can agree with a lot of this, but there is a serious underlying problem. Despite bringing back some cool things from ME1, like exploration, MEA went the SWTFA route and basically just put the Andromedans in a situation very similar to the Milky Way, just with really generic enemies and horrible level design. It is not something new unfortunately, but an attempt as you noticed of escaping their horrible writing decisions by reinventing the wheel. To heal the galaxies, Liara has to come to Andromeda and bring some damned gravitas to the game with her. If Liam wants to pull any more shenanigans on my ship, it is court-martial/bullet to head/airlock. Period, end of story, or the game is a failure on premise. Do not remove any more agency from the protagonist or I will take my ball and go home :clown: No worries, if Liara looks old, Liam is long dead. On the other hand, Peebee might still be alive. In any case they have to ditch the Tempest and its crew to make it work in Andromeda. How do you figure that? Liara is 745 when Liam wakes up in Andromeda, so her being old doesn’t mean he or the others are dead. No thanks. Would much rather ditch Liara than the Tempest crew.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Apr 7, 2022 7:22:24 GMT
If you play MET on PC, there's always the ME3 ending mod that removes Starkid's BS... How does this modded version go exactly? You don't see the starchild at all, just go choose from three options?
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Post by hulluliini on Apr 7, 2022 9:34:46 GMT
No worries, if Liara looks old, Liam is long dead. On the other hand, Peebee might still be alive. In any case they have to ditch the Tempest and its crew to make it work in Andromeda. How do you figure that? Liara is 745 when Liam wakes up in Andromeda, so her being old doesn’t mean he or the others are dead. No thanks. Would much rather ditch Liara than the Tempest crew. You only need to add a couple of decades and Liam will be gone. I wouldn't mind ditching the Tempest crew and I also don't need Liara, as long as the characters make sense this time.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2022 9:44:21 GMT
Less Is More Ending, or LIME, is my preferred ending mod. Also perfect with a G&T.
Liam would most likely be the same age or a few years older at most when Liara arrived, if Liara jumped on an Ark after the worst ending in video games. If the game takes place, I hope Ryder's crew are relegated to NPC cameos. Give Cora a job where she can tell Asari stories, put Liam in prison, put Peebee in recovery (she was definitely on something), etc etc.
Ryder can be the protag, but will possibly get the Hawke DAI treatment in favor of a new protagonist.
MEA fans can hate this all they want, but they aren't the only fans this game NEEDS to cater to. It has to hit most of the buttons for most of the fans. This necessitates inclusion of both galaxies.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Apr 7, 2022 9:48:12 GMT
It also needs to pull new players in. I wouldnt mind Tempest crew, after all, they were much more human/alien alike than in OT.
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Post by hulluliini on Apr 7, 2022 11:17:36 GMT
How does this modded version go exactly? You don't see the starchild at all, just go choose from three options? Huh. It really works so well here and now the "choices" seem completely unnecessary.
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Post by hulluliini on Apr 7, 2022 11:21:33 GMT
Less Is More Ending, or LIME, is my preferred ending mod. Also perfect with a G&T. Liam would most likely be the same age or a few years older at most when Liara arrived, if Liara jumped on an Ark after the worst ending in video games. If the game takes place, I hope Ryder's crew are relegated to NPC cameos. Give Cora a job where she can tell Asari stories, put Liam in prison, put Peebee in recovery (she was definitely on something), etc etc. Ryder can be the protag, but will possibly get the Hawke DAI treatment in favor of a new protagonist. MEA fans can hate this all they want, but they aren't the only fans this game NEEDS to cater to. It has to hit most of the buttons for most of the fans. This necessitates inclusion of both galaxies. If you cannot see this, I think your glasses are dirty, or you need to get them. You can't put fans into two boxes like that. I'm an OT fan AND an MEA fan. I am not a fan of the Tempest crew, I'm a fan of Andromeda, its potential. I'm also a fan of the universe in the OT. I'm simply not attached to any particular character, least of all Shepard. It would be really easy to come up with something satisfactory if they only had fans like me in mind. Having to include specific characters is really restrictive.
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Post by themikefest on Apr 7, 2022 11:39:25 GMT
If Liam wants to pull any more shenanigans on my ship, it is court-martial/bullet to head/airlock. Period, end of story, or the game is a failure on premise. Do not remove any more agency from the protagonist or I will take my ball and go home :clown: At the very least I would have him removed from the roster before he's able to do anymore of his stupid crap No worries, if Liara looks old, Liam is long dead. On the other hand, Peebee might still be alive. In any case they have to ditch the Tempest and its crew to make it work in Andromeda. There's 3 names I don't give a crap about. All three can't be trusted. I would prefer the peepee and traitor not return if there's a sequel with Ryder returning. Then again, I also prefer Ryder not to return. No thanks. Would much rather ditch Liara than the Tempest crew. Why not have both? Get rid of t'soni, the tempest crew and squad. excellent. How do you figure that? Liara is 745 when Liam wakes up in Andromeda, so her being old doesn’t mean he or the others are dead. No thanks. Would much rather ditch Liara than the Tempest crew. You only need to add a couple of decades and Liam will be gone. I wouldn't mind ditching the Tempest crew and I also don't need Liara, as long as the characters make sense this time. Why two decades? I would give the Kosta guy, the rest of tempest characters the Emily Wong treatment. They all died via twitter. Simple. Or better yet, have the peepee kill them all. At the beginning of the game, the tempest comes under fire. It takes damage causing it not to FTL. The evacuation signal is given. The peepee wanting to show she's become a team player, launches the new escape pod without anyone in it. Just as they're about to chew her out, the tempest is destroy killing everyone. Moments later, the character creation pops up to customize the new main character. You're also right about t'soni. Don't need her.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Apr 7, 2022 11:40:35 GMT
Huh. It really works so well here and now the "choices" seem completely unnecessary. Are you talking about the RBG choices or the choices you make in the game?
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Post by damdil on Apr 7, 2022 13:56:22 GMT
hulluliiniWith the mod you can't choose an ending, it will always be the high war asset red ending. The amount of war assets still changes the original cutscenes during the last mission but has no influence on the happy ending as far as I know. @gaben7 It's interesting that you bring the "Does this unit have a soul?" question into the discussion. I've given it some thought and while it's most likely that this exact wording was chosen for having a maximum tear jerker moment it again raises more questions than answers. "Soul" is a term which was used throughout history mostly in regard to spiritual matters. In common parlance, the soul is in general synonymous with the term "personality". Like many sayings, this is not entirely correct when looking at the terms in detail: Personality is something which can be scientificly linked to the human frontal lobe. And it goes so far that if you would apply hard definitions even animals as fellow organic beings don't have a personality in a human sense. The word "soul" is much more abstract and is not provable in a physilogical sense. Note that in fact, in common language a lot of inanimate objects get atrributed to have a soul. Probably this was already the case when our ancestors crafted their first hand axes and fire stones. While the exact evolutionary advantages of this are indeed a mystery, anthropomorphisation is a simple and often satisfying way to explain the world especially before modern science was a thing. Note that it is satisfying in the sense of preventing cognitive dissonance. And what easier way to prevent this phenomenon than to humanise everything, making it like yourself? It rains and thunders because a man up in the sky is angry. Your computer crashed a lot yesterday so it had a bad day since everyone has one from time to time. It's more beautiful to think that a lioness adopts an antelope calf because it felt pity and not due to hormonal effects making it go "full mom mode" since it's having her own offsprings at that given time. BUT that doesn't make it true. Also take notice that this way of thinking often is preferred even today since it is easier on your brain so to speak. It doesn't require any deeper thoughts and mostly happens on it's own which is one of the reason many people even like making decisions on a gut level. Long story short, you could also apply this to the Geth: They show some behaviour which can easily make you humanise them. Maybe they even do so just to get the extra pity. Just like that, you're quick to see them as a species of living beings. Despite the fact they are still obviously machines and fulfill zero criteria for being defined as animate beings.
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Post by Iakus on Apr 7, 2022 14:32:05 GMT
hulluliini With the mod you can't choose an ending, it will always be the high war asset red ending. The amount of war assets still changes the original cutscenes during the last mission but has no influence on the happy ending as far as I know. I haven't tried this particular one, but the original MEHEM mod had a high and low EMS version.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2022 18:04:45 GMT
hulluliiniWith the mod you can't choose an ending, it will always be the high war asset red ending. The amount of war assets still changes the original cutscenes during the last mission but has no influence on the happy ending as far as I know. @gaben7 It's interesting that you bring the "Does this unit have a soul?" question into the discussion. I've given it some thought and while it's most likely that this exact wording was chosen for having a maximum tear jerker moment it again raises more questions than answers. "Soul" is a term which was used throughout history mostly in regard to spiritual matters. In common parlance, the soul is in general synonymous with the term "personality". Like many sayings, this is not entirely correct when looking at the terms in detail: Personality is something which can be scientificly linked to the human frontal lobe. And it goes so far that if you would apply hard definitions even animals as fellow organic beings don't have a personality in a human sense. The word "soul" is much more abstract and is not provable in a physilogical sense. Note that in fact, in common language a lot of inanimate objects get atrributed to have a soul. Probably this was already the case when our ancestors crafted their first hand axes and fire stones. While the exact evolutionary advantages of this are indeed a mystery, anthropomorphisation is a simple and often satisfying way to explain the world especially before modern science was a thing. Note that it is satisfying in the sense of preventing cognitive dissonance. And what easier way to prevent this phenomenon than to humanise everything, making it like yourself? It rains and thunders because a man up in the sky is angry. Your computer crashed a lot yesterday so it had a bad day since everyone has one from time to time. It's more beautiful to think that a lioness adopts an antelope calf because it felt pity and not due to hormonal effects making it go "full mom mode" since it's having her own offsprings at that given time. BUT that doesn't make it true. Also take notice that this way of thinking often is preferred even today since it is easier on your brain so to speak. It doesn't require any deeper thoughts and mostly happens on it's own which is one of the reason many people even like making decisions on a gut level. Long story short, you could also apply this to the Geth: They show some behaviour which can easily make you humanise them. Maybe they even do so just to get the extra pity. Just like that, you're quick to see them as a species of living beings. Despite the fact they are still obviously machines and fulfill zero criteria for being defined as animate beings. As someone who studied Epistemology at University and graduated summa, I feel confident in how I define AI, and how I define sapience. If it is conscious, it has a soul. The antelope, the lion, your cat, the rat in your garbage - these creatures experience things and react to them individually not as a rigid result of genetic programming. Personality is an aspect of this. Humanizing things doesn't make me feel warmer about them; quite the opposite actually. Humans are a trash species, a galactic embarrassment or as a Batarian might say, a blight. So, thanks for those thoughts and I am glad you are thinking about this. I disagree entirely. ... To the thread - do you think Liara is not in the game? How have you come to this interesting conclusion? She may not be necessary or what any of you want, but she is in the game. Back your bags now if this is a big deal.
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Post by hulluliini on Apr 8, 2022 10:25:12 GMT
Huh. It really works so well here and now the "choices" seem completely unnecessary. Are you talking about the RBG choices or the choices you make in the game? The colorful choices. I felt like my choices mattered up until those final three.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Apr 8, 2022 15:54:45 GMT
It also needs to pull new players in. I wouldnt mind Tempest crew, after all, they were much more human/alien alike than in OT.
MEA is a way to get new fans into the ME Universe and not forcing them to play 3 games with a bunch DLC, watch an anime movie, read 3 novels, and a bunch of comics to get and understand all of the plots, characters, backstory, and so on for a ME set in the MWG. Going for a nostalgia crowd is ultimately a dead end. Sure you might and probably will get some people to love your media, but you then stuck in the same loop doing the same thing over and over and over again and to a smaller and smaller crowd.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2022 16:43:29 GMT
It also needs to pull new players in. I wouldnt mind Tempest crew, after all, they were much more human/alien alike than in OT.
MEA is a way to get new fans into the ME Universe and not forcing them to play 3 games with a bunch DLC, watch an anime movie, read 3 novels, and a bunch of comics to get and understand all of the plots, characters, backstory, and so on for a ME set in the MWG. Going for a nostalgia crowd is ultimately a dead end. Sure you might and probably will get some people to love your media, but you then stuck in the same loop doing the same thing over and over and over again and to a smaller and smaller crowd.
I remember when BioWare forced me to buy all those DLC I definitely didn't want because I hated Shepard and the Milky Way but just couldn't resist the indoctrination. I was also forced to read the comic that came with my CE of ME3. I never read the novels though, so I apparently remain ignorant of everything that happened around me in a trilogy that I have played over and over again, but hate.
The ridiculousness of this post is the "bunch DLC". The main complaint of most MEA fans I know, is that MEA didn't get crucial DLC that would have tied up some very large loose ends.
How is nostalgia for one old game different from nostalgia from an older game? Do you think at all about the logical consequence of what you typed? The entire post is a contradiction wrapped in a misunderstanding, lightly breaded in Panko and deep fried in duck fat.
The new game absolutely does need to appeal to new fans... the free advertising they will get from old fans if they make something good will be more valuable than 10x every dollar they spend on marketing. These "old fans" - shocking I know - include fans of the OT and Andromeda. Because all those games are old now.
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Post by themikefest on Apr 8, 2022 17:33:26 GMT
MEA is a way to get new fans into the ME Universe and not forcing them to play 3 games with a bunch DLC, watch an anime movie, read 3 novels, and a bunch of comics to get and understand all of the plots, characters, backstory, and so on for a ME set in the MWG. Going for a nostalgia crowd is ultimately a dead end. Sure you might and probably will get some people to love your media, but you then stuck in the same loop doing the same thing over and over and over again and to a smaller and smaller crowd. MET is the way to get new fans into the ME universe by not forcing them to play a game that has no dlc, read books to understand all the plots, characters, backstory's, and so on for an ME set in Andromeda. Going for nostalgia is a good thing. The remaster proved that. The smaller crowd would be the MEA crowd. Look at the twitter thread. There's very little stuff related to MEA while there's a lot related to the trilogy even after ME3 released 10 years ago
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Post by Iakus on Apr 8, 2022 18:29:50 GMT
MEA is a way to get new fans into the ME Universe and not forcing them to play 3 games with a bunch DLC, watch an anime movie, read 3 novels, and a bunch of comics to get and understand all of the plots, characters, backstory, and so on for a ME set in the MWG. Going for a nostalgia crowd is ultimately a dead end. Sure you might and probably will get some people to love your media, but you then stuck in the same loop doing the same thing over and over and over again and to a smaller and smaller crowd. MET is the way to get new fans into the ME universe by not forcing them to play a game that has no dlc, read books to understand all the plots, characters, backstory's, and so on for an ME set in Andromeda. Going for nostalgia is a good thing. The remaster proved that. The smaller crowd would be the MEA crowd. Look at the twitter thread. There's very little stuff related to MEA while there's a lot related to the trilogy even after ME3 released 10 years ago Yeah, Bioware burned a LOT of bridges with that dumpster fire ending. They clearly had no intention to return to the setting later.
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Post by hulluliini on Apr 11, 2022 6:55:45 GMT
Long story short, you could also apply this to the Geth: They show some behaviour which can easily make you humanise them. Maybe they even do so just to get the extra pity. Just like that, you're quick to see them as a species of living beings. Despite the fact they are still obviously machines and fulfill zero criteria for being defined as animate beings. You anthropocentric bag of dicks.
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Post by noviere on Apr 11, 2022 9:26:38 GMT
Hey guys! Let's have a thread about what NEW things we want to see in the next Mass Effect game! 6 pages arguing about the ending follow.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Apr 11, 2022 10:25:31 GMT
Hey guys! Let's have a thread about what NEW things we want to see in the next Mass Effect game! 6 pages arguing about the ending follow. It wouldn't be a ME thread without arguing about the ME3 endings.
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