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Post by darthshadielavellan on Oct 30, 2022 23:58:35 GMT
"You're saying the previously relevant character is... likely irrelevant to future games... and would like him to be more relevant to future games instead... when he... doesn't seem like he'll be relevant to future games... does not compute..." You are aware that most players kill Loghain in DAO? And that in the "Bioware Canon" aka not using the Keep he also gets killed. I know this sounds strange but around half of the DAI playerbase haven´t used the Keep.
And don´t forget there is the option that Loghain sacrifice his life at the end of DAO. If Loghain somehow survive DAO well there is another fate choice in DAI if Alistair or Stroud aren´t the Hawkes warden friends. Therefore only in a pretty small of possible player worldstates he survived DAI.
So yeah i say that Loghain is irrelevant because of his several possible deaths in the series.Also it (correct me if i wrong here but) Loghain must be 74 years old when Dreadwolf takes place. Maybe Loghain is also "dead" at this time because of his Calling.
So tell me why should Bioware bring Loghain back just for a handful people?
Last but not least i know i repeat myself but Loghain is the wrong candidate for this thread. There is no need for a promotion because of this deaths its already a downgrade from DAO.
Depending on the exact START year of DA:D, Loghain could be anywhere between 70 and 80. He's in his mid 60s in DAI. If that short story is any indication, we will see DA:D take place throughout several years to a decade, if not begin later, though I doubt that is the case. Loghain became a Grey Warden in his 40s, so his Calling will not come as early as it does for someone who became Grey Warden much younger. Had Duncan survived DAO, his Calling would have come earlier since he became a warden at 18. Mark Darrah stated that it would be unlikely that BioWare would bring back characters with too many possible scenarios and outcomes, such as Loghain, so you are correct is your assessment that it is likely he will not return. If he DOES, it would be because whoever is at Weisshaupt returns, and maybe whoever was left in the Fade too. Since they brought Loghain back for those possibilities in DAI among other possible characters. That is the only way I see Loghain returning.
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 31, 2022 8:26:22 GMT
If he DOES, it would be because whoever is at Weisshaupt returns, and maybe whoever was left in the Fade too. Since they brought Loghain back for those possibilities in DAI among other possible characters. That is the only way I see Loghain returning. This is also true of Stroud and Hawke. However, I think that possibility was diminished somewhat by the epilogue to Trespasser that has Hawke back in Kirkwall running things with Varric. Thus, I imagine that whatever input they had at Warden HQ will be explained away by a codex or dialogue with someone we meet there. Ditto Loghain or Stroud. I hope they don't ignore the Warden unrest at the end of DAI entirely going forward but I doubt the Fade survivor is going to feature actually in the game.
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 31, 2022 8:29:49 GMT
Last but not least i know i repeat myself but Loghain is the wrong candidate for this thread. There is no need for a promotion because of this deaths its already a downgrade from DAO. I agree. Loghain is not a minor character, nor does that apply to any of our companions from previous games, whether in the party or accompanying it, or I would have mentioned them.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Oct 31, 2022 10:22:51 GMT
Mark Darrah stated that it would be unlikely that BioWare would bring back characters with too many possible scenarios and outcomes, such as Loghain, so you are correct is your assessment that it is likely he will not return. That´s right. Just look how many quantum characters they used in the past. First there are the rectons of course so Oghren, Anders + Justice and Leliana. If someone ask i don´t consider Morrigan, Flemeth, Samson or Corypheus a retcon. Edit: And for DAD Calpernia and Sten as Arishok
So we have for Awakening as a small cameo King Alistair (where was Warden Alistair by the way?), Queen Anora and Warden Loghain plus as a sidequest giver Wynne.
DA 2 has two sidequests with Nathaniel Howe (his sister isn´t a quantum character) and Zevran.
The player can fight in an optional fight against demon Sophia Dryden again. Alistair in three different cameos as King, Warden and Drunk. And i almost forgot about Isolde in Mark of the Assassin because she was so memorable in this DLC.
DAI has Queen Anora and / or King Alistair as cameo. Warden Alistair and Warden Loghain plus a non quantum character alternative for those two aka Warden Stroud who are playing a bigger supporting role. Two cameo scenes with Connor and Kieran has also a two / three scenes.
And there is Hawke who is also a quantum character? I would say yes because Hawke could be male or female plus the 3 different personalities.
I am not sure if i miss somebody but i think that´s all. The others are of course non quantum characters who always show up in these games.
My point is that it seems likely that DAD used a similiar amount of quantum characters. So 4-5 characters. And Loghain would be very likely not one of them. Of course Bioware can still bring him back but i doubt that many player will see Loghain so i don´t think its worth the ressources.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 1, 2022 15:14:07 GMT
That´s right. Just look how many quantum characters they used in the past. On the whole though, they only use the characters in optional sub-quests, often with a substitute if they are dead in your world state. Leliana was, of course, a major exception to this, although they did come up with an explanation for her appearance if killed in DAO at the end of Trespasser. Ditto Anders if he allegedly died at Vigil's Keep. (They quietly overlooked what happened if you handed him over to the Templars at the beginning of Awakening but I assume they would say he just escaped again, although of course he wouldn't be a Warden in that case). The other thing to bear in mind is whether the person is seen to be dead. Sten, Calpernia and even Hawke could be said to be open to interpretation because we never see their dead body. My biggest argument against characters returning is not whether they are quantum or not but whether they have any reason to be up north. Very few do. I also feel that Trespasser was designed not just to tie up the Inquisitor's story but also that of the majority of returning characters from the first three games, so they have pretty much a clean sheet going forward, although if Varric does return they rather messed up on his story arc, as making him Viscount was a good enough reason to leave him down south.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Nov 1, 2022 17:18:02 GMT
Ditto Anders if he allegedly died at Vigil's Keep. (They quietly overlooked what happened if you handed him over to the Templars at the beginning of Awakening but I assume they would say he just escaped again, although of course he wouldn't be a Warden in that case). It´s not just Anders who is a problem. He and Justice together doesn´t work. You have close all of your two eyes to ignore all of the Awakening stuff to get use to it. By way speaking of Awakening there is Oghren but his survival doesn´t seem to bother the fans that much as Leliana. Who knows what places / states we visit in DAD? Maybe you can explain why character x is in Antiva instead of Tevinter. After finishing the Trespasser the first time i thought that Blackwall, Cassandra, Cole , Vivienne and especially Cullen, Varric and most importantly Leliana stories are done. Sera and Josephine (only if we are in Antiva) are maybe´s. Also The Iron Ball back then but now i can rule him also out mainly because that his actor Freddie Prinze Jr won´t work for Bioware ever again. And Dorian & Solas well to big shocker are locked in for DAD. So only two to four of the 12 would be bad not bad if you ask me. Varric is pretty strange. Like you i always thought after playing Trespasser that his story is told and done because Bioware used their same writing tactics as before. If character get some political power he / she is almost writen out of the series and only mentioned a few times.
Dorian would be in DAD the exception of this rule but i still wonder why Bioware won´t use Dorian (more) instead of Varric?
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Post by darthshadielavellan on Nov 1, 2022 17:46:47 GMT
Dorian would be in DAD the exception of this rule but i still wonder why Bioware won´t use Dorian (more) instead of Varric?
Dorian SHOULD be more in DAD than Varric. Dorian is not only in Tevinter Nights and set up to be an advisor of sorts, but he's a Tevinter Magister and member of the Magisterium. He HAS to be a prominent character in DAD, it only makes sense. Perhaps Varric is just the recruiter who finds us and send us on our way, perhaps through other characters.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Nov 1, 2022 18:07:29 GMT
Dorian SHOULD be more in DAD than Varric. I would even say much more than Solas. From all of the previous major NPCs who are returning Dorian should get the most screentime in DAD.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 1, 2022 18:53:08 GMT
Sera and Josephine (only if we are in Antiva) are maybe´s. I don't think we will see Sera again but we could see another Red Jenny as the network covers quite a wide area. If we do go to Antiva then Josephine is a possibility but I'm really having doubts about Antiva. As I've explained elsewhere, I wonder if labelling a lot of those city shots "Antiva" was actually to throw us off. When they announced Alpha, they also included a paragraph emphasising how thrilled they are to be taking us to Minrathous. Yet, if you leave out all the shots that were allegedly Antiva, there was only one bit of concept art that looked definitely to be Tevinter. To have multiple shots of Antiva City and only one of Minrathous does seem a bit odd, particularly as they are now making a point about the latter. And Dorian & Solas well to big shocker are locked in for DAD. If Dorian doesn't have a major role in DA:D I shall be very disappointed as otherwise they could have left him down south with my Inquisitor. As it is, the fact that he always returns to Tevinter regardless and is always made a Magister has always suggested to me that he was intended to be an integral part of the story when we get up there. Dorian SHOULD be more in DAD than Varric. I agree but Varric is staring in the latest comic series even though that is deep into southern Tevinter and well away from Kirkwall. Dorian has strong links to Asariel, which is only a short way along the coast from Marnas Pell, so you would think he might feature in a series located there, teaming up with Harding, whom he knows from his time with the Inquisition, yet there has been no mention of him, unless he is the missing friend.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Nov 1, 2022 19:05:21 GMT
I don't think we will see Sera again but we could see another Red Jenny as the network covers quite a wide area. Before Trespasser i would agree but then there is this banter.
So yes between DAI and Trespasser Sera was in Minrathous for some time. Therefore it isn´t that far scretched that she could show up in DAD if Bioware wants her back of course. I hope that you are right because i really don´t want Antiva wasted for DAD. We don´t need another poor version of a city like with Val Royeaux. In every worldstate he become a Magister and show up in Trespasser even if the player never recruit or punch him in the face.
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Post by darthshadielavellan on Nov 1, 2022 22:42:23 GMT
Dorian SHOULD be more in DAD than Varric. I agree but Varric is staring in the latest comic series even though that is deep into southern Tevinter and well away from Kirkwall. Dorian has strong links to Asariel, which is only a short way along the coast from Marnas Pell, so you would think he might feature in a series located there, teaming up with Harding, whom he knows from his time with the Inquisition, yet there has been no mention of him, unless he is the missing friend. IKR! hopefully he is NOT the missing friend. I want him in DAD and I want him in tact, for both Bull AND Maxwell.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 2, 2022 8:31:22 GMT
So yes between DAI and Trespasser Sera was in Minrathous for some time. Therefore it isn´t that far scretched that she could show up in DAD if Bioware wants her back of course. One of the things I find disappointing about having known characters have visited so many places is that it makes Thedas seem so much smaller. I know there is now the eluvian network to allow fast travel for those who have access to it but that is the catch, only certain people should have access. Otherwise, people should be travelling around in normal fashion, either on foot, on horseback/wagon or by ship. It was a minor gripe of mine that they seemed to overlook distances involved when they had us travelling around in DAI, so we could be in the Hinterlands, then Skyhold, then up to Val Royeaux and it apparently took no time at all, nor is there any sense of fatigue that might be present if we did this in enforced marches. Now they did try and convey a sense of time with the War Table missions taking various amounts of time to complete but we never really got a sense of distance. How did our small band of named agents (who featured in multi-player) manage to go from the deep south to Qarinus so easily? At the time of Trespasser, I queried how long Dorian had been absent and managed to return, particularly as in one case it seemed like it had only been a couple of months, which should barely have been enough time to travel to Minrathous or Qarinus and back, let alone do anything whilst there. Now the idea that Sera could take time out from running her network down south to take a trip to Minrathous also seems to reduce the size of the world. However, it does lend credence to the idea that a Red Jenny cell, or more than one, exists in Tevinter. Whether that means we will also get a cameo from Sera is anyone's guess but it does seem a distinct possibility that we will have contact with the Red Jennies whilst there.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 2, 2022 8:35:55 GMT
IKR! hopefully he is NOT the missing friend. I want him in DAD and I want him in tact, for both Bull AND Maxwell. He doesn't have to be permanently missing. After all, I assume the whole point of the comic is that Varric/Harding are searching for the missing friend and thus success will mean they find them, alive hopefully. Of course, the synopsis does say "former" friend but that doesn't necessarily mean dead. It could mean they have not been in contact for a while or, of course, as others have suggested, they are no longer a friend, as in Solas.
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Post by dayze on Nov 2, 2022 16:12:02 GMT
IKR! hopefully he is NOT the missing friend. I want him in DAD and I want him in tact, for both Bull AND Maxwell. He doesn't have to be permanently missing. After all, I assume the whole point of the comic is that Varric/Harding are searching for the missing friend and thus success will mean they find them, alive hopefully. Of course, the synopsis does say "former" friend but that doesn't necessarily mean dead. It could mean they have not been in contact for a while or, of course, as others have suggested, they are no longer a friend, as in Solas. With Varric and all his connections, missing "friend", could potentially be a whole lot of people. Kind of wondering if the comic series will shed some light on all the various heroes through the ages that have disappeared. At least that's my first thought when the title "The Missing" comes up.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 2, 2022 16:37:25 GMT
Kind of wondering if the comic series will shed some light on all the various heroes through the ages that have disappeared. I'm getting a feeling of deja vu here. We had a conversation along these lines on the old boards regarding DAI. At the end of DA2, Leliana seemed to imply something sinister was going on with both the Hero and the Champion going missing at the same time. All sorts of speculation followed as to how someone somewhere was collecting heroes for some nefarious purpose. Sadly, the reality was nothing so intriguing. Varric was simply lying to Cassandra and the Hero had gone off on a wild goose chase for a potential "cure". So, I doubt there will be multiple "friends" on the missing list. Since they specifically mention darkspawn that could point to a Grey Warden of some sort. Otherwise, why would then be heading into the Deep Roads? It probably does have to do with red lyrium, since Varric does have a personal interest in that. Marnas Pell is the interesting part, though, because the Veil is meant to be so fragile there. That is why I thought a mage with a specialist knowledge of the spirit world might be involved. If it were not for the fact that he could be dead, Anders would make a good fit, being both a mage, a Grey Warden and a former friend of Varric. Of course, I've always argued that Anders need not be dead since Justice could choose to revive him. I seem to recall that one of the writers (or former writer since it may have been DG) said that Anders could be dead but Justice simply revived his body for his own use, which could be one possibility. Another is that Anders would have appeared in the cancelled Exalted March DLC (presumably having been resurrected if killed) and redeemed himself of his former actions, so maybe they are going to revive that plotline.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Nov 2, 2022 17:48:32 GMT
Now the idea that Sera could take time out from running her network down south to take a trip to Minrathous also seems to reduce the size of the world. However, it does lend credence to the idea that a Red Jenny cell, or more than one, exists in Tevinter. Whether that means we will also get a cameo from Sera is anyone's guess but it does seem a distinct possibility that we will have contact with the Red Jennies whilst there. Maybe it´s just me but i won´t mind if Sera is in DAD or not. She is such a wild card as a character that i won´t feel strange that she visit Minrathous. Maybe you are right that her reason to be there has to do with Red Jenny but with Sera everything is possible. I would have more problems with characters like Vivienne or other elves like Merrill why they would be in Tevinter even as mages. I highly doubt that. The Anders decision is one of the most important in DA 2 so no i can´t see that Bioware would retcon it. Gaider always said: "Anders stay dead if killed but Justice is another story" By the way i won´t put to much thought in the former friend part. I mean we can safely assume that´s Solas. I know big surprise but to be honest i don´t expect big twists in a comic series. Maybe i am wrong here which would be more interessing but yeah i doubt it.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 2, 2022 18:42:01 GMT
I would have more problems with characters like Vivienne or other elves like Merrill why they would be in Tevinter even as mages. Obviously, Vivienne would not go there as Divine Victoria, even at the invitation of the Black Divine, since she's not stupid. However, she did mention in conversation with Dorian that she has a correspondent in Tevinter, so I suppose it would not be beyond the bounds of possibility that she might visit as a private citizen as the guest of the person with whom she corresponds. Nevertheless, I think it highly unlikely since she is much too involved in Orlesian politics and running the Loyalist Circle to waste time on such a visit. Plus, who would go voluntarily into a war zone if they didn't need to? If we see Merrill at all it would be up among the clans of Arlathan Forest. According to Tevinter Nights, clearly some clans have headed that way, which may or may not have anything to do with the promptings of the Dread Wolf. If Strife was telling the truth and he did originate from Starkhaven and joined his clan down there, it would seem that clans have travelled from as far away as the Freemarches. That being the case, if Merrill was in the loop, she might have chosen to join them in their migration. Gaider always said: "Anders stay dead if killed but Justice is another story" That was the bit when I thought perhaps Justice might resurrect the body for his own use. Otherwise, I assume he would simply return to the Fade without a vessel to occupy, although maybe he has grown enough in power that he could create one of his own. After all, Ishmael didn't really need a body to stay in the world, although he was one of the Forbidden Ones and they did seem to have the ability to take on solid form at their own will when crossing into the Waking World.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Nov 2, 2022 19:04:30 GMT
However, she did mention in conversation with Dorian that she has a correspondent in Tevinter, so I suppose it would not be beyond the bounds of possibility that she might visit as a private citizen as the guest of the person with whom she corresponds. She could do that i guess. But i wonder have Vivienne ever visited Tevinter before? I don´t think so why would visit it now all of a sudden?
Even as Non-Divine i can´t think that Vivienne as a mage want to see in any form to be associated with Tevinter. But if Bioware really brings Non-Divine Vivienne back its not far scretched that they also reused her charactermodel for Divine Vivienne. And if Bioware done one Divine Victoria well they also could bring back the other two with their Non-Divine Fates. My point i don´t think (or should i say hope? ) that Vivienne along with Cassandra and Leliana aren´t returning in DAD.
Sorry but No we don´t need more Merrill drama. Also Merrill has friends in Kirkwall who won´t let her join Solas. It´s not just Varric but also Isabela and Aveline who won´t allow this. Of course Bioware could still write Merrill in Dreadwolf but why is this needed from a writing view of things? Her story is done and the only reason why she and her clan have even returned in DA 2 was that Bioware hadn´t done much with them in DAO which felt weird compared to the other Origins. Sorry but this was also the time where some of community were super pissed off that they recton the much smaller optional death of Leliana. Undone a major character decision which unlike Leliana every player has to chose would be a terrible idea like that Anders wasn´t possessed by the real Justice.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 2, 2022 19:15:07 GMT
If we see Merrill at all it would be up among the clans of Arlathan Forest. Sorry but no we don´t need more Merrill drama. Also Merrill has friends in Kirkwall who won´t let her join Solas. It´s not just Varric but also Isabela and Aveline who won´t allow this. Of course Bioware could still write Merrill in Dreadwolf but why is this needed from a writing view of things? Her story is done and the only reason why she and her clan has even returned in DA 2 was that Bioware hadn´t done much with them in DAO. Sorry but this was also the time where some of community were super pissed off that they recton the much smaller optional death of Leliana. Undone a major character decision which unlike Leliana every player has to chose would be a terrible idea like that Anders wasn´t possessed by the real Justice. Yeah. Merrill would never support Solas. This is the woman who tells multiple stories about how not to trust the Dread Wolf. And even if he’s lying, she knows the truth thanks to Varric. If she was involved, I’d see it more as her helping the heroes with her knowledge of ancient elves and the Eluvians.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Nov 2, 2022 19:24:51 GMT
If she was involved, I’d see it more as her helping the heroes with her knowledge of ancient elves and the Eluvians. In my opinion she should have been in Mythal temple as another option. Which isn´t that far scretched if the Mythal temple was really a scrapped DA 2 DLC. I think that the Mythal temple DLC would have been the third Story DLC but how knows exatly?
But for Dreadwolf i don´t see any need. Fenris and Tallis i would get that those are returning but Merrill? Also i want to believe that we won´t see that many DAO, DAA (i fuc... wish) and DA2 characters returning unlike DAI.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 2, 2022 21:09:41 GMT
If she was involved, I’d see it more as her helping the heroes with her knowledge of ancient elves and the Eluvians. In my opinion she should have been in Mythal temple as another option. Which isn´t that far scretched if the Mythal temple was really a scrapped DA 2 DLC. I think that the Mythal temple DLC would have been the third Story DLC but how knows exatly?
But for Dreadwolf i don´t see any need. Fenris and Tallis i would get that those are returning but Merrill? Also i want to believe that we won´t see that many DAO, DAA (i fuc... wish) and DA2 characters returning unlike DAI. Agreed. Merrill is my second favorite character in the franchise, but I don’t want to see her in this. If they bring her in, I fear it won’t end well for her. Let her just be living with my Hawke (perhaps hunting down the Envy Demon that impersonated them in DAI).
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Post by darthshadielavellan on Nov 2, 2022 21:14:53 GMT
IKR! hopefully he is NOT the missing friend. I want him in DAD and I want him in tact, for both Bull AND Maxwell. He doesn't have to be permanently missing. After all, I assume the whole point of the comic is that Varric/Harding are searching for the missing friend and thus success will mean they find them, alive hopefully. Of course, the synopsis does say "former" friend but that doesn't necessarily mean dead. It could mean they have not been in contact for a while or, of course, as others have suggested, they are no longer a friend, as in Solas. Very true! If it IS Solas, I reckon it might lead up to how the DAD protagonist may come to face him or information on Solas that Varric has for us because he found him in the Deep Roads. If it IS Solas, I hope it doesn't mean Solas has transformed into a red lyrium creature with red lyrium protruding out of him. I would have many questions. And just the thought frightens me.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Nov 2, 2022 21:25:09 GMT
If they bring her in, I fear it won’t end well for her. Well the good thing is that Merrill is a quantum character therefore Bioware couldn´t use her that much. Of course they could retcon her pretty difficult to get death scene or work with replacement characters but why? She isn´t Fenris where the fans are totally expecting that he will return because of his Tevinter background. Besides Fenris Tallis and probably Isabela should return in some form. Perhaps also Anders in a small cameo but maybe not. Merrill is one of the DA 2 characters along with Varric of course who shouldn´t make a return.
Edit: We are talking maybe a bit too much about major characters in the last posts. Therefore i suggest to bring Soris fiancée Valora back. Maybe not per se as promotion but i kinda wish that Bioware would do some with her and other kidnapped DAO City Elves.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 3, 2022 8:30:53 GMT
Sorry but No we don´t need more Merrill drama. Also Merrill has friends in Kirkwall who won´t let her join Solas Yeah. Merrill would never support Solas I wasn't suggesting this. We don't know the allegiance of the clans up in the Arlathan Forest. Given how respectfully Strife speaks about Andruil, he at least seems unlikely to be a follower of the Dread Wolf. What was never really explained in Tevinter Nights is what they are doing up there. There was never any suggestion in previous games or books that the Dalish go anywhere near Tevinter, yet apparently there were clans up there not just in Three Trees to Midnight but also An Old Crow's Old Tricks, as the clan there had fallen foul of Tevinter soldiers. As I said, if Strife was telling the truth and he joined his clan down south, then they were not native to the area but the Freemarches. So, something or someone must have prompted them to travel north. Now in the Dread Wolf Take You the elf who approached the Carta claimed to have gained his knowledge from a dream. The Carta dwarf seemed to think he was a regular Dalish, not just by the tattoos but the accent, since he makes the point that the elves who turn up later have a different accent to the Dalish. Now the first elf could just have been faking it but what if he wasn't? What if he genuinely got the idea from a dream? This could mean that Solas was influencing modern elves to aid his plans inadvertently by using their dreams to plant ideas into their heads. So, they are never aware they are aiding the Dread Wolf. They could even believe it has something to do with Dirthamen. So, what I was suggesting that if the writers wanted to involve Merrill (and I'm not saying that they should), then either she could have been given some sort of dream vision that prompted her to go north, or she simply heard about the clans migrating in that direction and decided to join them. You have to admit that if the clans had received some collective vision prompting their return to Arlathan Forest, Merrill would probably want to investigate, out of concern for her People if nothing else. Of course, it could turn out that the clans in Arlathan Forest are not connected to the regular Dalish at all or separated from them early in their history, which is why the others aren't even aware of their existence.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 3, 2022 8:43:41 GMT
Well the good thing is that Merrill is a quantum character therefore Bioware couldn´t use her that much. Of course they could retcon her pretty difficult to get death scene or work with replacement characters but why? She isn´t Fenris where the fans are totally expecting that he will return because of his Tevinter background. Fenris is also a quantum character and so should not be returning except in an optional side-quest or cameo role based on the world state imported. Whilst he was brought back in the comic series, that left him down south with Vaea and it was working along the lines of one particular world state. The reason I don't think they would bring back either Fenris or Merrill is that not only could they be dead at the end of DA2 but they are also romanced characters. So, any inclusion of them would have to explain (once again) why they were not with Hawke. In Merrill's case, the explanation was rather better than the one for Fenris. Merrill was helping with the elves in Kirkwall. This would mean that when Hawke returned from Weisshaupt to Kirkwall, they would definitely be reunited. If Hawke was left in the Fade, then she still had her work helping the elves to console her and keep her in that location. Mind you, if the hub for gathering information on Solas was based in Kirkwall (as seemed likely from Tevinter Nights) then Merrill might have a part to play in thwarting his plans. She knows a fair bit about eluvians, cleansing items of the Blight and has a passion for elven history, working for the benefit of her people. So, she could be involved from that perspective, being sent north by her friends with the Inquisition to discover exactly what is going on with the Dalish in Arlathan Forest.
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