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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Dec 15, 2019 1:08:03 GMT
Today I reloaded some ammo, made me a whole bag of 7.5 Swiss ammo! Ain't it pretty?
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Post by Lavochkin on Dec 15, 2019 4:21:37 GMT
I used to have my .22LR ammo in ziplock bags like that before i ordered these clear cases for 'em. One of them came busted in the corner and i had to piece it back together with gorilla glue, and did so i did.
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Post by nanotm on Dec 15, 2019 7:25:33 GMT
I used to have my .22LR ammo in ziplock bags like that before i ordered these clear cases for 'em. One of them came busted in the corner and i had to piece it back together with gorilla glue, and did so i did. top tip when stuff arrives busted, take a photo of it email it to the seller and ask for a refund or replacement, then repair the damaged bit and you have an extra one ok it doesnt work on everything and some stuff the seller will demand to be returned but not for a lot of stuff since its not worth them wasting the postage fees on it/
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Dec 15, 2019 12:13:40 GMT
I used to have my .22LR ammo in ziplock bags like that before i ordered these clear cases for 'em. One of them came busted in the corner and i had to piece it back together with gorilla glue, and did so i did. I have those cases too, unfortunately they're all full! So bags it is for now. They even make those boxes for 12 gauge, very handy.
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Post by Lavochkin on Dec 15, 2019 12:20:14 GMT
I tried looking for such cases for .32 auto but unfortunately didn't find any.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Dec 15, 2019 12:29:42 GMT
I tried looking for such cases for .32 auto but unfortunately didn't find any. I'm also using many cases that were not intended for the caliber I put into them, nobody makes boxes for 44-40, 7.5 Swiss or 7x57. Just get a 9mm case.
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Post by Lavochkin on Dec 16, 2019 5:51:24 GMT
Norwegian shieldmaiden demonstrates and fires historic handguns used in Norway during WW2 courtesy of her GUNcle.
in a related vid, here's a FH vid on the M1914 pistol (in .45 ACP), which was the Norwegian military's standard issue sidearm during WW2 which was a derivative of the 1911.
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Post by Lavochkin on Dec 17, 2019 4:00:01 GMT
What I want to go hunting with.
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Post by Lavochkin on Dec 17, 2019 20:35:17 GMT
Here's a really nice implementation of the stocked pistol concept.
Fuck the NFA for hindering the development and proliferation of them in the States.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Dec 17, 2019 23:47:10 GMT
Here's a really nice implementation of the stocked pistol concept. I considered getting one of those but when I tried one out I found the stock to be way, WAAAAAY too short to be of practical use for me. I am 6'1'', maybe it is different for a 5'6'' dudes or something. And with way too short I mean absolutely unusable.
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Post by masterwarderz on Dec 18, 2019 0:25:29 GMT
Seeing videos of machine guns in action like this really shows how much courage an opposing soldier must be to advance in an open field against such a killing machine and not simply go "fuck this" and run in the opposite direction. Well, nowadays you don't advance into machine gun fire anyway, you grab your phone and order an airstrike or an artillery strike and be done with it. Airport approach during the battle of Baghdad my dude, I was there and can confirm that in portions of that road we were under heavy mg fire for several minutes before the installations were knocked out via local armor or artillery. That was the worst case of it in my career and I still remember that shit because of that, the mortar fire was bad but we were dealing with it, but once the mgs start unloading on the platoon we had to circumnavigate around them or hold position until they were knocked out. But to get to that point, we were under direct fire and had to advance into it to take positions to support and cover the armored approach. .__. Man that was a bad day.
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Post by Lavochkin on Dec 18, 2019 5:31:52 GMT
Here's a really nice implementation of the stocked pistol concept. I considered getting one of those but when I tried one out I found the stock to be way, WAAAAAY too short to be of practical use for me. I am 6'1'', maybe it is different for a 5'6'' dudes or something. And with way too short I mean absolutely unusable. As a 5'7' fellow, it sounds perfect for me then. Although, I'd likely just get a stock for my G19 than buy this even without the NFA. I mean, i could do the process for getting the SBR thing done, but i don't feel like going through the wait time and paying for a $250 tax on top of the price of the stock.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Dec 18, 2019 16:19:31 GMT
I considered getting one of those but when I tried one out I found the stock to be way, WAAAAAY too short to be of practical use for me. I am 6'1'', maybe it is different for a 5'6'' dudes or something. And with way too short I mean absolutely unusable. As a 5'7' fellow, it sounds perfect for me then. Although, I'd likely just get a stock for my G19 than buy this even without the NFA. I mean, i could do the process for getting the SBR thing done, but i don't feel like going through the wait time and paying for a $250 tax on top of the price of the stock. I don't get why people are so terrified of SBRing a gun. I mean, if you compare it to the bureaucracy and paperwork we have to deal with when applying for gun licenses SBR-ing is a joke. Just pay 250 extra and get that NF permit and have fun for gods sake. Talking about guns (wow, smooth transition, eh?) I just stumbled across a super neat way to mount a red dot on my Gen 3 G17. It simply replaces the rear sight with a rear sight that has a small rail on it on which you can mount a quick-release red dot. Sight picture and function of the open sights remain unchanged. They're night sights too! No co-witness but who gives a damn, if it stops working - its a quick release mount. Not sure if I should get it, I mean its 350 bucks and I am a good shot with the irons.
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Post by Lavochkin on Dec 18, 2019 23:36:56 GMT
That gets around having to mill the slide into being able to screw on an optic mounting. Although some guns come optic ready straight out of the factory like my G19 MOS.
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Post by Lavochkin on Dec 19, 2019 3:25:17 GMT
There's now a Glock chambered in .22LR, the Glock 44, which also makes it the only Glock that uses rimfire ammunition.
Now if only we can get a Glock in .32 ACP next...
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Post by mousestalker on Dec 19, 2019 11:54:06 GMT
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Post by mattig89ch on Dec 19, 2019 14:18:34 GMT
What I want to go hunting with. 350 rounds a day...wow. You'd think the barrel would need to be longer for its use. Still though, I love the idea.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Dec 19, 2019 14:30:21 GMT
I am amazed that nobody has mentioned the US military changing caliber. For the light machine gun and the general assault rifle caliber 5.56 is going to be switched out with a larger more powerful 6.8mm cartridge, and the medium machine guns that were formerly 7.62 are going to be chambered in .338 Norma Magnum. Also, the 6.8 is going to have some form of composite or polymer case, either a brass case with a steel base to use pressures far beyond what a normal single piece brass case can handle, or a case entirely made from polymer. I have a few problems with that change: 1. 338 Norma Magnum is a very powerful round, it burns a lot of powder in a comparatively small bore diameter which makes it somewhat of a barrel burner. Now I am not so sure if a cartridge that is hard on barrels should be put in a machine gun that will run fast cycling rates with lots of round counts. Its simple physics, there is no way around it. 2. All polymers are know to get brittle when exposed to UV radiation, or simple aging. Will polymer cases have a shorter life span brass cases? Also brass soaks up a lot of heat during firing and the ejected brass helps cooling the gun - much like a Mass Effect thermal clip- now plastics don't do that. 3. 556 has very good ballistics, medium 6.8 cartridges like the 6.8 SPC or the 6.5 Grendel cannot match the 556 at distances beyond 300 meters. Why are they giving up range for a slightly bigger bullet with a little more recoil? Also 556 is a better armor penetration since it is faster. Speed defeats armor 4. Holy shit the rifles using the polymer cases look super complex. Have fun maintaining those contraptions! Also sand is gonna be fun with that many moving parts. Personally, I think they should have gone with the smooth bore Flechette rifle concept they investigated in the early 90's, now that brings more benefits to the table.- Fin stabilized darts with muzzle velocities of nearly 5000 fps with TONS of armor penetration, mind blowing long range ballistics, cheap barrels (no rifling), very lightweight cartridges, excellent wounding capabilities, very little recoil. Imagine a nearly recoil-less machinegun firing flechette projectiles at 3000 meters penetrating all known body armors and lightly armored vehicles at that distance. Now that is the future.
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Post by mattig89ch on Dec 19, 2019 17:04:00 GMT
I just came here to show this off.
But I actually didn't know they were switching to a new cartridge. I was wondering why they hadn't already done so tbh. The 5.56 does seem a bit...under powered...for military use to me. Especially with folks wearing armor.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Dec 19, 2019 18:08:17 GMT
But I actually didn't know they were switching to a new cartridge. I was wondering why they hadn't already done so tbh. The 5.56 does seem a bit...under powered...for military use to me. Especially with folks wearing armor. The 5.56 is actually a wonderful armor penetrator, to defeat armor you don't need much bullet mass and definitely not big bullet diameters, the only thing that matters is the velocity. And 5.56 with 3000+ fp/s is very good at that. There is even 9mm ammo that can go through Level IIIa vests, its simply such a light bullet that it goes 2200 fp/s instead of the 1150 fp/s with a standard 124 grain ball round. Now the 6.8 is WORSE in armor penetration than the 556, so this puzzles me quite a lot.
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Post by mattig89ch on Dec 19, 2019 22:17:48 GMT
But I actually didn't know they were switching to a new cartridge. I was wondering why they hadn't already done so tbh. The 5.56 does seem a bit...under powered...for military use to me. Especially with folks wearing armor. The 5.56 is actually a wonderful armor penetrator, to defeat armor you don't need much bullet mass and definitely not big bullet diameters, the only thing that matters is the velocity. And 5.56 with 3000+ fp/s is very good at that. There is even 9mm ammo that can go through Level IIIa vests, its simply such a light bullet that it goes 2200 fp/s instead of the 1150 fp/s with a standard 124 grain ball round. Now the 6.8 is WORSE in armor penetration than the 556, so this puzzles me quite a lot. Sure, but why did they switch to .308 rifles in the middle east? I thought it was for distance accuracy over longer ranges.
Would this cartridge be good at that as well?
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Dec 19, 2019 23:04:59 GMT
Sure, but why did they switch to .308 rifles in the middle east? I thought it was for distance accuracy over longer ranges. [/div] Would this cartridge be good at that as well? [/quote] They did not switch to .308 rifles, they just put some of the old M14 back into service and added a few M25 .308 rifles as semi-automatic sniper rifles. The bulk of the infantry weapons were in 5.56 as were the light machine guns. The 6.8 has worse range capabilities than the 5.56, the 6.8 starts slower and drops more, this is also something that puzzles me. I have no idea why they go with this caliber. Ballistics and physics don't lie. Now the .338 Norma Magnum for the medium machine guns has excellent range and power (more range than 50 BMG), no questions about that one, besides barrel life of course. Here is a ballistics chart for the 5.56 and the 6.8 SPC. Blue color is the 5.56 / .223
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Post by Evil on Dec 20, 2019 0:32:24 GMT
I am amazed that nobody has mentioned the US military changing caliber. I suspect not very many people here kept an eye on the situation because they thought that even the US military wouldn't actually be dumb enough to make the exact same mistake they made by forcing 7.62mm on NATO a second time. I know I didn't. WW2 made it clear, when we're taking about rank and file grunts in actual combat situations... Quicker follow up shots and more ammo >>>>>> theoretical range advantages that aren't even useful most of the time and said grunt isn't capable of putting into practice anyway. Vietnam reinforced the lesson so hard that the Americans were forced to rush out an intermediate cartridge and a rifle to use it... AFTER us guys over the lake who told the dumb bastards to go for an intermediate cartridge wasted a ton of money on FAL's. *glares at m14 in utter disgust* Adding polymer cases to the order doesn't exactly sound great either.
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Post by B. Hieronymus Da on Dec 20, 2019 1:22:41 GMT
I am amazed that nobody has mentioned the US military changing caliber. For the light machine gun and the general assault rifle caliber 5.56 is going to be switched out with a larger more powerful 6.8mm cartridge, and the medium machine guns that were formerly 7.62 are going to be chambered in .338 Norma Magnum. Also, the 6.8 is going to have some form of composite or polymer case, either a brass case with a steel base to use pressures far beyond what a normal single piece brass case can handle, or a case entirely made from polymer. I have a few problems with that change: 1. 338 Norma Magnum is a very powerful round, it burns a lot of powder in a comparatively small bore diameter which makes it somewhat of a barrel burner. Now I am not so sure if a cartridge that is hard on barrels should be put in a machine gun that will run fast cycling rates with lots of round counts. Its simple physics, there is no way around it. 2. All polymers are know to get brittle when exposed to UV radiation, or simple aging. Will polymer cases have a shorter life span brass cases? Also brass soaks up a lot of heat during firing and the ejected brass helps cooling the gun - much like a Mass Effect thermal clip- now plastics don't do that. 3. 556 has very good ballistics, medium 6.8 cartridges like the 6.8 SPC or the 6.5 Grendel cannot match the 556 at distances beyond 300 meters. Why are they giving up range for a slightly bigger bullet with a little more recoil? Also 556 is a better armor penetration since it is faster. Speed defeats armor 4. Holy shit the rifles using the polymer cases look super complex. Have fun maintaining those contraptions! Also sand is gonna be fun with that many moving parts. Personally, I think they should have gone with the smooth bore Flechette rifle concept they investigated in the early 90's, now that brings more benefits to the table.- Fin stabilized darts with muzzle velocities of nearly 5000 fps with TONS of armor penetration, mind blowing long range ballistics, cheap barrels (no rifling), very lightweight cartridges, excellent wounding capabilities, very little recoil. Imagine a nearly recoil-less machinegun firing flechette projectiles at 3000 meters penetrating all known body armors and lightly armored vehicles at that distance. Now that is the future. I don't think the army is committed to change any caliber? These are research and testing programs. They've had others in the past and they haven't caused any changes. Actually, it would surprise me if the polymer 6.8 round is adopted. I don't think the modest weight saving (which is the only advantage) justifies the cost, greater complexity, bulk and lesser shelf life. But that is what the test programs are supposed to find out. The original reason for a adopting a 6.5 - 6.8 mm caliber came from the low lethality of the 5.56 round when fired from the shorter M4 barrel. At 100m it was only 1/4 of the terminal effect from the full length M16. This was partially & temporarily fixed by a new type of powder charge, which stomps out the bullet from he shorter barrel more vigorously, while still not quite blowing up the rifle. The performance in the longer barrel is unchanged. Still, a larger cross sectional area of the caliber soaks up more energy from limited gas pressure and a short barrel, and a heavier bullet retains more energy downrange. Thus, when the army adopts a new cartridge, it's likely to be something 6.5'ish. As for the polymer casing, it risks causing an outrage from environmentalists, and rightly so. And it might never become cheap to manufacture. I also suspect it might be possible to engineer a cartridge that is a better alternative to the traditional brass than this plastic, so why hurry to standardize on something that doesn't look like the future..
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Dec 20, 2019 1:33:32 GMT
Still, a larger cross sectional area of the caliber soaks up more energy from limited gas pressure and a short barrel, and a heavier bullet retains more energy downrange. Thus, when the army adopts a new cartridge, it's likely to be something 6.5'ish. That's not happening though, the 6.8SPC bullet may be bigger in diameter but it is competitively short and light. In fact, if you run the numbers the 6.8SPC is BARELY more powerful than the 62-69 grain 556 loads at the muzzle but its is quickly overtaken by the 556. So it boggles my mind why anyone would go with a 6.8SPC over 556
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