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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 6:43:05 GMT
So, this is my first actual thread.
I actually wanted to discuss the music in Dragon Age Inquisition, or more specifically, the lack of it. Now, before I start, I feel I should admit that it's been awhile since I touched Inquisition, so that may be the source of some of my complaints, but did anyone else feel like the soundtrack of Inquisition was overall completely understated and forgettable?
There's the main theme, which is actually very exciting and does an excellent job of generating hype, and I often spend more time than I should on the main menu just listening to it. But aside from that, does anyone remember any tracks from the game at all? I seem to vaguely recall the scene where everyone is singing after your first base is destroyed, but even that is still to the tune of the main theme, so it's hardly strange that I would remember it.
I also don't think music played at all during general exploration, though I may be wrong.
Now, this seems like a huge step backwards, in my opinion. I didn't really like most of Inon Zurr's compositions in Origins, especially the battle themes, but many songs like the main theme, the party camp theme, and Leliana's song were all gorgeous, and I still remember them vividly despite having not played Origins in well over 5 years now. I also recall many of the battle songs, despite the fact that they weren't to my tastes.
With Dragon Age II, I remember the main theme, and the theme song they used for the pre rendered TRAILER, but that's still more than Inquisition. I also remember the end credits song they used in Origins and II.
The ONLY song I remember from Inquisition is the main theme. Does anyone else feel this? Did I just somehow miss it all? Was it extremely quiet, or just generic? I'm not trying to hate on it, as I'm sure the composer legitimately knows how to write a song, but there must be some reason as to why NONE of these tracks stand out to me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 6:50:20 GMT
What about the bard Maryden's songs? None of those stood out to you?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 6:51:18 GMT
What about the bard Maryden's songs? None of those stood out to you? I honestly don't remember a single one.
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Post by unofficialgreycolor on Feb 9, 2017 7:03:40 GMT
I have seen this exact complaint before.
To me, it isn't that the music is "unforgettable" but simply that the music just completely melds into the game naturally. The original theme is indeed epic and the first time I heard it when booting up the game for the first time gave me some serious nerd chills. Same -and especially- goes for the song after haven is destroyed. That was such an epic moment and I would not want to dwarf it (no pun intended) in any way shape or form.
As far as the music elsewhere in the game, I would say, yes, they could have filled more of the game up with music. That said, there were plenty of sound effects such as birds and animals and the like that it didn't really bother me at all. I will admit that the hissing wastes did seem a bit on the quiet side. But the thing I have noticed really is that a lot of the time if there is something in an area that is lacking, they make it up in some way elsewhere in that same location. That's just my opinion ofc, but its the way I actually feel. *shrug*
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 7:09:16 GMT
I have seen this exact complaint before. To me, it isn't that the music is "unforgettable" but simply that the music just completely melds into the game naturally. The original theme is indeed epic and the first time I heard it when booting up the game for the first time gave me some serious nerd chills. Same -and especially- goes for the song after haven is destroyed. That was such an epic moment and I would not want to dwarf it (no pun intended) in any way shape or form. As far as the music elsewhere in the game, I would say, yes, they could have filled more of the game up with music. That said, there were plenty of sound effects such as birds and animals and the like that it didn't really bother me at all. I will admit that the hissing wastes did seem a bit on the quiet side. But the thing I have noticed really is that a lot of the time if there is something in an area that is lacking, they make it up in some way elsewhere in that same location. That's just my opinion ofc, but its the way I actually feel. *shrug* I think natural sounding music is all well and good, but I don't have any particularly vivid memories of walking through the wilderness and being awed by the sounds of nature and the like. I think a good comparison for that kind of approach is actually the upcoming Zelda game, where even in the trailers I'm blown away by just how much ambient noise is occurring. You can hear bugs, wind, grass moving in said wind, creeks and streams gently trickling across rocks, the leaves swaying, birds chirping, etc. It's a very serene and peaceful experience, while still having some light piano music to accompany the scene. That being said, I'm listening to Inquisition's OST right now, and I'm really baffled by how none of these sound familiar. It just seems a shame because what I do remember was pretty good, but the only thing I remember is a few versions of the same song.
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Post by thats1evildude on Feb 9, 2017 7:22:20 GMT
I quite like the rather ominous song that plays just prior to In Your Heart Shall Burn and the music during the battle scenes in that quest.
I also like that haunting melody that plays sometimes on the Storm Coast.
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Post by Blaze on Feb 9, 2017 9:41:24 GMT
the music when you defeat the finale boss, journey to skyhold, trespasser, the descent, bard's songs, the inquisition marches, calling the inquisition, sealing the breach, orlais theme. this soundtrack is great, no idea what you talking about =D
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Post by Blaze on Feb 9, 2017 10:07:50 GMT
I also don't think music played at all during general exploration, though I may be wrong. ok that's an actual issue, music does play during exploration, but sometimes it stops and things are silent, there is ambient sound though, so at least that. hopefully the'll fix the exploration music (along with random banter) in the next game.
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Post by cheeseandonion on Feb 9, 2017 11:41:56 GMT
I find it a bit boring and standard, even the main theme. Need to bring back the pipes they had for origins.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 9, 2017 13:26:09 GMT
I like the music in DAI. My favorite is the main theme and the music when fighting a dragon
But for me, DAO has the best of the 3 games.
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Post by fylimar on Feb 9, 2017 18:07:37 GMT
I liked the tavern songs, they actually sounded like tavern songs for once. And some of them, like 'Enchanter' or 'Sera was never' are really catchy. Plus the girl singing has a good voice - she sounds natural, but can carry the tune. I'm still cringing when I remember that awful scene, where Leliana sung that 'Dalish' song in the camp ... with a whole orchestra and choir... in a camp... in the middle of nowhere ... . At least with 'The Dawn will come' they kept the instruments to a minimum and kept the voices of the people actually singing in the foreground.
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Post by leadintea on Feb 9, 2017 18:25:07 GMT
I honestly can't remember a single song in the entire series, including the main themes. The only song I really remember is 'Sera Was Never.'
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Post by bella on Feb 9, 2017 18:52:52 GMT
I suppose I agree to an extent - the main game of Inquisition in particular doesn't have many truly memorable pieces. Off the top of my head right now, I only remember the main theme, and the ambient theme that plays in Emerald Graves. Mind you, it's been 6 months since I last touched the game. However I do love the bard songs, and the soundtracks for Descent and Trespasser are absolutely amazing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 20:28:19 GMT
I liked the tavern songs, they actually sounded like tavern songs for once. And some of them, like 'Enchanter' or 'Sera was never' are really catchy. Plus the girl singing has a good voice - she sounds natural, but can carry the tune. I'm still cringing when I remember that awful scene, where Leliana sung that 'Dalish' song in the camp ... with a whole orchestra and choir... in a camp... in the middle of nowhere ... . At least with 'The Dawn will come' they kept the instruments to a minimum and kept the voices of the people actually singing in the foreground. I mean, that's fair, but at the very least the song was good, and memorable. You could write most of that up as being a budget constraint or something. Not being able to have Leliana sing a specific song for a specific scene when you could just use one already on the OST. And the tavern music in DAII sounded like tavern music, I thought, though it was a bit "busy". I felt like there were too many instruments.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 20:30:58 GMT
the music when you defeat the finale boss, journey to skyhold, trespasser, the descent, bard's songs, the inquisition marches, calling the inquisition, sealing the breach, orlais theme. this soundtrack is great, no idea what you talking about =D I listened to the Orlais theme last night and I was having trouble remembering ever hearing it in the game itself. I assume it probably played when you went into the city, but honestly that's just my best guess. A lot of the tracks do sound really generic though, and even the ones that I listened to last night were difficult to hum after I woke up today. Orlais Theme was particularly guilty of this, I found. I don't imagine even the most seasoned Dragon Age players would recognize it if I tried to hum it to them.
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Post by fylimar on Feb 9, 2017 20:48:50 GMT
I liked the tavern songs, they actually sounded like tavern songs for once. And some of them, like 'Enchanter' or 'Sera was never' are really catchy. Plus the girl singing has a good voice - she sounds natural, but can carry the tune. I'm still cringing when I remember that awful scene, where Leliana sung that 'Dalish' song in the camp ... with a whole orchestra and choir... in a camp... in the middle of nowhere ... . At least with 'The Dawn will come' they kept the instruments to a minimum and kept the voices of the people actually singing in the foreground. I mean, that's fair, but at the very least the song was good, and memorable. You could write most of that up as being a budget constraint or something. Not being able to have Leliana sing a specific song for a specific scene when you could just use one already on the OST. And the tavern music in DAII sounded like tavern music, I thought, though it was a bit "busy". I felt like there were too many instruments. If you mean Lelianas so called elven song, I'm not a fan of that song, but luckily, tastes are different. I just don't think, that they couldn't have reworked the song to make it a more believable campfire song. BTW: I didn't mean tavern songs from DA2 (those weren't tavern songs I guess, more background music), I mean the ones from inquisition - this one for example: or this one: BTW: one of them is the title theme from DAO, in a more archaic version (I like it, when they don't drown everything in synthisizer sounds) I have to edit, because I just stumpled over a really beautiful cover of Enchanter, sung by a very talented singer and I have to share it. She has some really nice celtic songs in her youtube chanel as well. There are so many talented people out there, it's amazing:
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 21:01:30 GMT
fylimarI do appreciate the callback to Origins, and it's not like the tavern music isn't good in Inquisition, but I don't really recall ever listening to it in any great detail. I would say the reason was that it only plays in the tavern, and I don't like halting my gameplay to stop and listen to the music. I mean, I do sometimes, but if it would've played more music while I was exploring I would've appreciated that, tbh.
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Post by fylimar on Feb 9, 2017 21:04:15 GMT
fylimar I do appreciate the callback to Origins, and it's not like the tavern music isn't good in Inquisition, but I don't really recall ever listening to it in any great detail. I would say the reason was that it only plays in the tavern, and I don't like halting my gameplay to stop and listen to the music. I mean, I do sometimes, but if it would've played more music while I was exploring I would've appreciated that, tbh. I understand. I myself are a big music fan, so I would halt mostly anything if I hear music, I like , but I know, that I'm strange in that way
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 21:22:04 GMT
fylimar I do appreciate the callback to Origins, and it's not like the tavern music isn't good in Inquisition, but I don't really recall ever listening to it in any great detail. I would say the reason was that it only plays in the tavern, and I don't like halting my gameplay to stop and listen to the music. I mean, I do sometimes, but if it would've played more music while I was exploring I would've appreciated that, tbh. I understand. I myself are a big music fan, so I would halt mostly anything if I hear music, I like , but I know, that I'm strange in that way Not all that strange. I'm the same way, I just didn't hear anything that really made me want to stop, if that makes sense.
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Post by fylimar on Feb 9, 2017 21:27:02 GMT
I understand. I myself are a big music fan, so I would halt mostly anything if I hear music, I like , but I know, that I'm strange in that way Not all that strange. I'm the same way, I just didn't hear anything that really made me want to stop, if that makes sense. Yes, that makes perfectly sense.
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Post by pdusen on Feb 12, 2017 11:31:48 GMT
Inquisition was the first game in the series to have memorable music, in my opinion. The music that plays during the Battle of Haven and the Corypheus reveal in particular still play in my head to this day. I also loved the music in Trespasser.
By comparison, the only music I remember from DAO is the main menu music, and that's only with great effort on my part. I remember no music from DA2 whatsoever, despite it being my favorite in the series.
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Post by Zemgus on Feb 12, 2017 12:13:35 GMT
I love the theme song as well and like you, OP, sometimes listen to it for a while before starting the game.
I agree that it felt like they didn't use the soundtrack nearly enough. I know they said they wanted more organic sounds in their large environments, but honestly if I want to hear birds sing I rather just go outside for a walk. The tavern songs were a minor disappointment, not as good as Skyrim's bard songs. There were couple really good ones but most sounded kinda samey. My favorites are Oh, Grey Warden and Sera Was Never.
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Post by mrfixit on Feb 12, 2017 13:23:34 GMT
All three games occasionally had memorable music. From DA2 I particularly remember Fenris and Qunari themes. DA:I had the great main theme and various important moments were well served by soundtrack: introduction of Corypheus, Skyhold, certain main quests... Trespasser in particular had great music. Solas theme for the goddamn win.
I recently listened to Trevor Morris, the composer for DA:I, saying how he was asked to do his own thing and break free of previous games' soundtrack (meaning Inon Zur sound). While it was certainly true of the base game soundtrack, which had a distinct epic feel, I find it interesting how he returned to the more mellow and atmospheric sound while scoring the DLCs.
That said, BioWare stumbled in ambient music and since you spend the vast majority of time roaming around the maps or in Skyhold, it essentially means that 80% of the game is more or less mute. What little ambient music there was was rather unremarkable. I suppose they didn't want the music to overpower the imagery and the feel of exploration, but I can't help but think that it was the wrong choice.
Someone upthread also mentioned that the sound design in general was kinda weak and I agree. Being in Val Royeaux offered very little ambient city noise except random bystanders uttering a line or two. Wilderness sounds were also subdued. The only time I really felt the whole audiovisual experience was fleeing Haven catacombs and then struggling through the snow alone. The wind was blowing right in my face and the sounds of weather, deep snow, and my Inqi shivering were quite detailed.
I want to be immersed in my environment. For example, when I'm at a blacksmith, I don't want only an occasional thud of metal against metal, I want to hear the intense crackling of heat, the sudden loud whooshing of water vapor as weapons and armor are being cooled. When someone is writing a letter, I want to experience the slight clink of quill against the ink bottle and the rustling of paper underneath it. There's a lot that can be done to help players get immersed in the world from the audio angle and I feel BioWare isn't doing the best job.
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Post by House Targaryen on Feb 13, 2017 4:04:08 GMT
I like the music of DAI and Origins, more DAI though. This extend track of the main theme is awesome.
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Post by Steelcan on Feb 13, 2017 5:13:36 GMT
I think overall there's not a lot of memorable tracks from DA:I. The only ones that I can remember off the top of my head are the main theme and the sung version, the Orlais theme, and "Sera" (which I do not care for)
I think in general DA's soundtracks have been pretty understated throughout the series and certainly not on the same level as ME and much less some truly great gaming soundtracks.
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