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Post by Hagoromo on May 4, 2017 14:45:35 GMT
I haven't paid much attention to the plot so I was unable to see these plot holes , but it's very odd what Riordan did there. Now it comes to my mind that Duncan should have been aware about the US as well,so why he didn't speak about the process to kill the AD to Alistair?He was a GW afterall. All that just because writers wanted to hide the Sacrifice up until the end of the game so that Morrigan's temptation could have been stronger? I admit I've never went along with Morrigan well and in fact there was a point in which I've sent her away form the party,(it was the part where she wanted to support Caladrius) but to see what they did to the plot because of her doesn't make me regret to have left DA after DAO.
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Post by Abraxas on May 4, 2017 16:33:25 GMT
Whatever those possibilities were, they ceased to be the moment they were left out of DA:O's story. So, why get upset about it? It's good trivia to know those possibilities existed, but they matter nothing in the current DA story. As for the conscription stuff... didn't they said that they removed the plot of conscripting other allies (such as your companions, or people like such as Jowan), because of mechanical limitations? Is poor writing that they limit the plot to the mechanical aspects of the game, but once they did it, its understandable that they have removed that plot if the game engine couldn't take it. BTW, I'm interested in knowing about those scrapped ideas. Can you point out were I can read about them? I haven't paid much attention to the plot so I was unable to see these plot holes , but it's very odd what Riordan did there. Now it comes to my mind that Duncan should have been aware about the US as well,so why he didn't speak about the process to kill the AD to Alistair?He was a GW afterall. Well, according to the RPG book, its just that older Wardens do not talk about those stuff with junior members (heck, Alistair is only 6 months senior to your Warden, I do not believe he is privy to Warden secrets yet at that point, Blight or not). They not only keep those secrets from their juniors, but many others (like the fact that the Calling doesn't kill you, only transform you into a ghoul). It's not a plot hole, its the way the Grey Wardens do their stuff. I'm sure Duncan wasn't planning that ALL the senior and experienced Wardens were killed at Ostagar, and I guess and he must have been confident that he or other older Warden would have killed the Archdemon, and not a junior member, and planned on purpose to left Alistair in the dark about those matters. Now, the plot hole here is that Riordan do not asked "hey, guys, are you aware of how to kill an Archdemon?" right away he met the Warden and Alistair, not the fact that he keep those information secret (again, because that's the M.O. of the Grey Wardens). I know that this was done to railroad the player into making the decisions the writers wanted to, but its not plot hole or stupidity. Just plain old railroading.
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Post by Lazarillo on May 4, 2017 23:09:45 GMT
All that just because writers wanted to hide the Sacrifice up until the end of the game so that Morrigan's temptation could have been stronger? I admit I've never went along with Morrigan well and in fact there was a point in which I've sent her away form the party,(it was the part where she wanted to support Caladrius) but to see what they did to the plot because of her doesn't make me regret to have left DA after DAO. You know, I've been thinking (bad idea, I know), but from that perspective, waiting until the end to bring up the Ultimate Sacrifice seems counterproductive. I mean, imagine, you've been playing the whole game with that hanging over your head, and then at the end, suddenly, BAM!, a way out! I feel like the sort of "haha, magic freebie card!" reveal would've worked even better if you had been despairing your whole way through and suddenly got shown a bright spot.
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Post by Hagoromo on May 4, 2017 23:25:49 GMT
All that just because writers wanted to hide the Sacrifice up until the end of the game so that Morrigan's temptation could have been stronger? I admit I've never went along with Morrigan well and in fact there was a point in which I've sent her away form the party,(it was the part where she wanted to support Caladrius) but to see what they did to the plot because of her doesn't make me regret to have left DA after DAO. You know, I've been thinking (bad idea, I know), but from that perspective, waiting until the end to bring up the Ultimate Sacrifice seems counterproductive. I mean, imagine, you've been playing the whole game with that hanging over your head, and then at the end, suddenly, BAM!, a way out! I feel like the sort of "haha, magic freebie card!" reveal would've worked even better if you had been despairing your whole way through and suddenly got shown a bright spot. That would have changed the whole Landsmeet,and it would have greatly weakened the DR.Afterall why kill Loghain if you had the knowledge of the US?
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Post by Hagoromo on May 4, 2017 23:28:37 GMT
Whatever those possibilities were, they ceased to be the moment they were left out of DA:O's story. So, why get upset about it? It's good trivia to know those possibilities existed, but they matter nothing in the current DA story. As for the conscription stuff... didn't they said that they removed the plot of conscripting other allies (such as your companions, or people like such as Jowan), because of mechanical limitations? Is poor writing that they limit the plot to the mechanical aspects of the game, but once they did it, its understandable that they have removed that plot if the game engine couldn't take it. BTW, I'm interested in knowing about those scrapped ideas. Can you point out were I can read about them? I haven't paid much attention to the plot so I was unable to see these plot holes , but it's very odd what Riordan did there. Now it comes to my mind that Duncan should have been aware about the US as well,so why he didn't speak about the process to kill the AD to Alistair?He was a GW afterall. Well, according to the RPG book, its just that older Wardens do not talk about those stuff with junior members (heck, Alistair is only 6 months senior to your Warden, I do not believe he is privy to Warden secrets yet at that point, Blight or not). They not only keep those secrets from their juniors, but many others (like the fact that the Calling doesn't kill you, only transform you into a ghoul). It's not a plot hole, its the way the Grey Wardens do their stuff. I'm sure Duncan wasn't planning that ALL the senior and experienced Wardens were killed at Ostagar, and I guess and he must have been confident that he or other older Warden would have killed the Archdemon, and not a junior member, and planned on purpose to left Alistair in the dark about those matters. Now, the plot hole here is that Riordan do not asked "hey, guys, are you aware of how to kill an Archdemon?" right away he met the Warden and Alistair, not the fact that he keep those information secret (again, because that's the M.O. of the Grey Wardens). I know that this was done to railroad the player into making the decisions the writers wanted to, but its not plot hole or stupidity. Just plain old railroading. Duncan has told everything to Alistair about becoming a ghoul,so why the need to hide the US with an AD around?He also has committed all the senior GW in the frontlines,they may have been killed even before Loghain retreated,in fact we didn't saw them with Duncan and Cailan,so it was pretty dumb for him to use them in that way and at the same time not caring about sharing the US.
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Post by secretrare on May 4, 2017 23:38:29 GMT
Whatever those possibilities were, they ceased to be the moment they were left out of DA:O's story. So, why get upset about it? It's good trivia to know those possibilities existed, but they matter nothing in the current DA story. As for the conscription stuff... didn't they said that they removed the plot of conscripting other allies (such as your companions, or people like such as Jowan), because of mechanical limitations? Is poor writing that they limit the plot to the mechanical aspects of the game, but once they did it, its understandable that they have removed that plot if the game engine couldn't take it. here He wasn't talking about scrapped ideas but of the fact that the plot was forced to push Morrigan's agenda.
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Post by Abraxas on May 4, 2017 23:40:14 GMT
Yeah, as I said, that's part of the poor writing of the game and the need of the devs to railroad us to certain conclusions. But is not a plot hole or a inconsistency, as Grey Wardens usually keep vital secrets even from other members of their order. So, is something that is congruent with lore.
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Post by Prince on May 5, 2017 11:05:06 GMT
As for the Berserker mode you have accused me of (despite the fact that you have started it by waging on how much of idealistic fools Non-DR players are ) In regards to the whole "idealistic fools" nonsense (now that was some serious bullshit nonsense), I never used the word, "fool", nor was I referring to how Non-DR players were one. You're assuming a lot of my tone here based on nothing. That shows, yet again, that you were so sensitive that you were ready to jump down my throat based on your own insecurity. Now that's nonsense. I even told doflamingodonquijote not to read too much into my post, that I was not, I repeat, NOT generalizing any Dragon Age players at all, Dark Ritual or not. Get your head out of your ass. I never waged anything on anyone, you fool. Thanks for bringing that up, seeing as how the whole idea of giving someone those insults isn't a form of incivility,but I know some folks just love to make these kinds of cheap and easy statements, trying to steal a march and establish 'facts' that simply don't stand up to scrutiny. So it's amusing... your vilification of those who disagree with your contention makes your vicarious "roleplaying game" character driven philosoraptor existential musings comical indeed. Oh well, don't mind me...carry on.
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Post by ryderflynn on May 5, 2017 11:40:39 GMT
In regards to the whole "idealistic fools" nonsense (now that was some serious bullshit nonsense), I never used the word, "fool", nor was I referring to how Non-DR players were one. You're assuming a lot of my tone here based on nothing. That shows, yet again, that you were so sensitive that you were ready to jump down my throat based on your own insecurity. Now that's nonsense. I even told doflamingodonquijote not to read too much into my post, that I was not, I repeat, NOT generalizing any Dragon Age players at all, Dark Ritual or not. Get your head out of your ass. I never waged anything on anyone, you fool. Thanks for bringing that up, seeing as how the whole idea of giving someone those insults isn't a form of incivility,but I know some folks just love to make these kinds of cheap and easy statements, trying to steal a march and establish 'facts' that simply don't stand up to scrutiny. So it's amusing... your vilification of those who disagree with your contention makes your vicarious "roleplaying game" character driven philosoraptor existential musings comical indeed. Oh well, don't mind me...carry on. Yet again with the drama and the over exaggeration. Yeesh, someone needs to get off the high horse. Your majesty, I should remind you that an opinion is not an "established fact", regardless of what your paranoia might tell you in that secret voice inside your head. Never have I stated that what I said about the Dark Ritual was a fact, and I was merely contributing my thoughts on the matter as normally as anyone would have, but I'm sorry that it was still waaaay too vague for you to comprehend I was merely sharing an opinion rather than establishing some noble fact I uphold, my Queen. Should I repeat a third time that I was only sharing an opinion in case you turn berserk- oh, right, don't want to accuse you of any upset behavior you obviously are not displaying with your continuous whining. Much apologies. Oh well, don't mind this lowly peasant. Carry on with your tirade on how others shouldn't tread upon your sacred order of facts and truth less your frail little comfort circle falls apart. What's really amusing here is that you're accusing me of vilifying others who disagreed with me when you and doflamingodonquijote were the ones who started this whole bullshit by getting all high and mighty when you didn't agree with what I said about the Dark Ritual and Grey Wardens in general. It seems hypocrisy is a common behavior among BSNers. "Oh no! He's generalizing everybody again! Let's pick on every single word he chose instead of treating it like a passing remark some schmuck on the Internet made because I have so much time on my hands!" And honestly, I would love to continue on this pointless argument about how you were obviously in the wrong but wouldn't admit so, but some of us actually have a life, so I think I'll just block you instead and hope for the best for your short-term social life, if you even have one with that kind of attitude, being triggered whenever someone says something wrong about Dragon Age lore, or anything you considered a "fact" in your tiny little brain. I mean, really, do you see anyone else giving a flying f whether if what I said was the truth or what you debunked was a delusion? Do you see anyone else replying? It's just you and me here, with doflamingodonquijote occasionally throwing in a fit. There's no audience here to cheer you on for you glorious debunking of this lowly peasant, so it's kinda pitiful you're carrying on like this for pride and ego. Hagoromo merely agreed that people like you were easily triggered by the very mention of the Dark Ritual in the past, and thus your childish actions not worth reporting. Nobody else is giving your glorious crusade attention here.
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Post by doflamingodonquijote on May 5, 2017 12:32:30 GMT
Thanks for bringing that up, seeing as how the whole idea of giving someone those insults isn't a form of incivility,but I know some folks just love to make these kinds of cheap and easy statements, trying to steal a march and establish 'facts' that simply don't stand up to scrutiny. So it's amusing... your vilification of those who disagree with your contention makes your vicarious "roleplaying game" character driven philosoraptor existential musings comical indeed. Oh well, don't mind me...carry on. snip For someone who accuses others to whine you sure whines a lot,talking about hypocrisy....such delicious irony ah ah. You've just said nonsense in the post which I've quoted ,but rather than admit to being wrong you started your own crusade by trying to establish petty insinuations about people you don't even know.
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Post by Hagoromo on May 5, 2017 12:59:14 GMT
I would like to not be dragged into anything,it wasn't my intention to prove anything. Many of the things that were said about the lore and some incongruences of it were new to me,so I may continue to read just for the sake of knowing more.
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Post by CrutchCricket on May 5, 2017 13:17:29 GMT
Alright, everyone just chill, tone down the personal jabs and kindly get back to topic. You don't have to agree, or even like or be especially nice to each other but we still expect you to follow the rules and post in good faith. If you can't do that and maintain the argument the latter's gotta go. Drop it and move on.
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Post by ryderflynn on May 5, 2017 13:35:16 GMT
Thanks for the interference.
Now, back on topic before someone derails it again. Dark Ritual. I'm still in favor of it, regardless of what any specific member said. I'm sorry you don't like it. Tough.
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Post by Prince on May 5, 2017 13:53:50 GMT
See, it all would make you look OK and fine, if you weren't guilty exactly of what you're accusing others of. But of course,the mistake was mine,I've forgot that nowadays the correct interpretation to describe insults and personal attacks is " I gave you my personal opinion" Also why did you thanked the moderator?I've called it(now) that's why it came here,since your previous post infringed one of the rules.
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Post by ryderflynn on May 5, 2017 14:00:29 GMT
See, it all would make you look OK and fine, if you weren't guilty exactly of what you're accusing others of. But of course,the mistake was mine,I've forgot that nowadays the correct interpretation to describe insults and personal attacks is " I gave you my personal opinion" Also why did you thanked the moderator?I've called it(now) that's why it came here,since your previous post infringed one of the rules. That's hilarious, considering your entire agenda infringed upon the courtesy of every forum I've known with common decency. The fact that the mod heeled to your bidding doesn't make your current situation any less guilty and required of modding, which was why I thanked him for at least putting a stop to your nonsense, which you're currently persisting. But please, don't mind me. Feel free to make yourself look more stupid.
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Post by Harpie Lady on May 5, 2017 14:01:35 GMT
I don't care about DR players liking gambling the world for their selfish interest(I despise them they will never be friends with me),as I've said before I only cares about the fact that they don't have to come back to whine if in DA4 their deeds will beackfire with Solas.
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Post by ryderflynn on May 5, 2017 14:03:00 GMT
And yet again, more despising of people over a game. People really do have a narrow mind here, don't they?
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Post by Harpie Lady on May 5, 2017 14:18:30 GMT
And yet again, more despising of people over a game. People really do have a narrow mind here, don't they? Swoosh? It was directed at me? Sorry for giving my (as you would say) "Passing opinion" Tell me how does that work?You are allowed to discredit the GW and those who like them but we are not allowed to do the same against those who gambled the world?
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Post by ryderflynn on May 5, 2017 14:25:34 GMT
And yet again, more despising of people over a game. People really do have a narrow mind here, don't they? Swoosh? It was directed at me? Sorry for giving my (as you would say) "Passing opinion" Tell me how does that work?You are allowed to discredit the GW and those who like them but we are not allowed to do the same against those who gambled the world? You're allowed to discredit whatever you want and I wouldn't faze a bit. It's the fact that you went to the length of claiming that you wouldn't be friends with them in real life and that you utterly despise them as if they've killed your parents or something that is utterly hilarious and saddening at the same time. Honestly, you people. It's just a game and you're getting your panties in a twist. So full of yourselves. I'll just let another's remark sum this whole nonsense up: You guys are taking the DR debate way, way too seriously.
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Post by doflamingodonquijote on May 5, 2017 14:59:46 GMT
ugh you contacted me on the messages....bah There was no need to do that.
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Post by ryderflynn on May 5, 2017 15:18:48 GMT
ugh you contacted me on the messages....bah There was no need to do that. Well, I was trying to take your drama elsewhere other than this thread, but some princess (not you, obviously) decided to persist on anyway after I sent you that message, and here we are. Anyway, glad to see you're still butthurt about the whole thing. "Bah". lol
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Post by Harpie Lady on May 5, 2017 15:36:14 GMT
Swoosh? It was directed at me? Sorry for giving my (as you would say) "Passing opinion" Tell me how does that work?You are allowed to discredit the GW and those who like them but we are not allowed to do the same against those who gambled the world? You're allowed to discredit whatever you want and I wouldn't faze a bit. It's the fact that you went to the length of claiming that you wouldn't be friends with them in real life and that you utterly despise them as if they've killed your parents or something that is utterly hilarious and saddening at the same time. Honestly, you people. It's just a game and you're getting your panties in a twist. So full of yourselves. I'll just let another's remark sum this whole nonsense up: You guys are taking the DR debate way, way too seriously. It doesn't absolutely matter the fact that is a virtual game(and thus a fake world with fabricated rules),ignoring the relevance of it's genre to make it irrelevant (IRL) it's a false equation.In many cases people roleplay their characters with their own real mindset(and that is especially true if they care enough about the game to bother to explain the motivations of their canon characters in a forum),which means it's genre is able to represent peoples real mindset and behaviours over certain situations,and that's true because I've read so many posts on this forum over people's own motivations that I could tell that the majority of them were so bound with their virtual avatar that was impossible to distinguish where the fantasy RP of their characters ended and where their true mindset of players begun. As such,in the case of the DR,someone whose decision is to gamble the live of others for themselves is not in many cases doing it as a form of Roleplaying,they are choosing to do that accordingly to their own real mindset projected into the game,hence they are not someone that I would want to be friend with IRL,and why Should I? I don't share their ideologies. More in general(in order to show at you on how saying that is just a "game" doesn't prove anything) if one as a player appreciate,support and like people that are the like of Morrigan(petty,cruel,insane and extremely selfish)they will just be the polar opposite of me and thus I don't see way I should want people like these as friends.
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Post by Iddy on May 5, 2017 15:39:01 GMT
You're allowed to discredit whatever you want and I wouldn't faze a bit. It's the fact that you went to the length of claiming that you wouldn't be friends with them in real life and that you utterly despise them as if they've killed your parents or something that is utterly hilarious and saddening at the same time. Honestly, you people. It's just a game and you're getting your panties in a twist. So full of yourselves. I'll just let another's remark sum this whole nonsense up: It doesn't absolutely matter the fact that is a virtual game(and thus a fake world with fabricated rules),ignoring the relevance of it's genre to make it irrelevant (IRL) it's a false equation.In many cases people roleplay their characters with their own real mindset(and that is especially true if they care enough about the game to bother to explain the motivations of their canon characters in a forum),which means it's genre is able to represent peoples real mindset and behaviours over certain situations,and that's true because I've read so many posts on this forum over people's own motivations that I could tell that the majority of them were so bound with their virtual avatar that was impossible to distinguish where the fantasy RP of their characters ended and where their true mindset of players begun. As such,in the case of the DR,someone whose decision is to gamble the live of others for themselves is not in many cases doing it as a form of Roleplaying,they are choosing to do that accordingly to their own real mindset projected into the game,hence they are not someone that I would want to be friend with IRL,and why Should I? I don't share their ideologies. More in general(in order to show at you on how saying that is just a "game" doesn't prove anything) if one as a player appreciate,support and like people that are the like of Morrigan(petty,cruel,insane and extremely selfish)they will just be the polar opposite of me and thus I don't see way I should want people like these as friends. I don't see how any of that matters. Of course people's ingame decisions are influenced by their own moral values. That isn't a reason to take a different opinion as a personal insult or a real crime.
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Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda
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Post by ryderflynn on May 5, 2017 15:44:49 GMT
You're allowed to discredit whatever you want and I wouldn't faze a bit. It's the fact that you went to the length of claiming that you wouldn't be friends with them in real life and that you utterly despise them as if they've killed your parents or something that is utterly hilarious and saddening at the same time. Honestly, you people. It's just a game and you're getting your panties in a twist. So full of yourselves. I'll just let another's remark sum this whole nonsense up: It doesn't absolutely matter the fact that is a virtual game(and thus a fake world with fabricated rules),ignoring the relevance of it's genre to make it irrelevant (IRL) it's a false equation.In many cases people roleplay their characters with their own real mindset(and that is especially true if they care enough about the game to bother to explain the motivations of their canon characters in a forum),which means it's genre is able to represent peoples real mindset and behaviours over certain situations,and that's true because I've read so many posts on this forum over people's own motivations that I could tell that the majority of them were so bound with their virtual avatar that was impossible to distinguish where the fantasy RP of their characters ended and where their true mindset of players begun. As such,in the case of the DR,someone whose decision is to gamble the live of others for themselves is not in many cases doing it as a form of Roleplaying,they are choosing to do that accordingly to their own real mindset projected into the game,hence they are not someone that I would want to be friend with IRL,and why Should I? I don't share their ideologies. More in general(in order to show at you on how saying that is just a "game" doesn't prove anything) if one as a player appreciate,support and like people that are the like of Morrigan(petty,cruel,insane and extremely selfish)they will just be the polar opposite of me and thus I don't see way I should want people like these as friends. Petty? Like yourself, getting upset, again, over a game? I clearly don't share your ideology in regards to how everyone would take the roleplaying in a game seriously. I for one, for example, made countless choices in RPGs out of amusement and curiosity than anything else. I've certainly made decisions of both light and dark just to test out what reaction I would have from the NPCs, and what consequences would concur. That is not a reflection of what I would do in real life, especially when one take into account that games like these are means of escapism for many people, especially games that involve rape and murder (AKA GTA, and yes, even Dragon Age). The fact that you place so much importance on a game is, pardon my manners, silly. That's how I feel regarding the matter. It's a trivial concern. I respect your willingness to assert your ideals politely (unlike some people), but I just have to say, I have to disagree.
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Post by Harpie Lady on May 5, 2017 15:53:44 GMT
I don't see how any of that matters. Of course people's ingame decisions are influenced by their own moral values. That isn't a reason to take a different opinion as a personal insult or a real crime. When did I said that? I simply Have stated that I don't share their moral values(which are pretty real) thus they cannot be my friends.
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