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Post by phoray on Apr 5, 2017 17:37:33 GMT
You know I forgot to mention, when I first played DAI and met Hawke for the first time, I didn't feel anything, because I had not played DA2 at the time so I did not know his story. But now when I meet Hawke again in DAI, I will have a new appreciation for him/her and Varric also. I hardly used Varric in DAI I only used him for telling stories. DAI Hawke's different. A burned out poor bastard. And in DA Keep, the default Hawke is diplomatic. So probably even boring as well... I prefer DAI's Diplomatic Hawke to DAI's Sarcastic Hawke (all the funny is gone, poor soul.) I haven't had an Aggro Hawke in DAI yet, but suspect it being as disappointing as Sarc Hawke.
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Post by phoray on Apr 5, 2017 17:43:23 GMT
You know I forgot to mention, when I first played DAI and met Hawke for the first time, I didn't feel anything, because I had not played DA2 at the time so I did not know his story. But now when I meet Hawke again in DAI, I will have a new appreciation for him/her and Varric also. I hardly used Varric in DAI I only used him for telling stories. Oh my gosh! It's an emotional roller coaster ride if you like both characters offered on the chopping block. I romanced Alistair twice in a row. In one world, he stayed a warden, but my Cousland made him King. Then I romanced Anders with Hawke. Arbitrarily, I decided to import my King Alistair World State for DAI, so at least my Fade Choice was Hawke vs Stroud. but it could have been my Hawke vs my Warden Alistair! Even with it being vs Stroud, I took a few minutes to think about it. Then I sacrificed my Hawke, but when Varric started mourning Hawke I was like "RE LOAD RE LOAD RE LOAD!" I did intentionally bring forward an Attonement Hawke to a Warden Alistair in the Fade my 3rd PT of DAI. And then cried for half an hour about sacrificing Hawke ( I can't kill Alistair, not in me.) But that was some educated self caused pain. The Male Hawke I'm playing now, who has default Hawke face, is the Hawke that is always going to be sacrificed. He has it in him to be that noble sacrifice dude.. And Isabella can be an independent Pirate Woman without him just fine.
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Post by Catilina on Apr 5, 2017 17:43:45 GMT
The facial expressions the best in DA2. And I liked Kirkwall's design, but it seemed, that this is a hastily constructed game. I hate Andromeda's empty deserts. Yes, this is a new world, need to exploring, but ... pftt, ignore me, probably I just very impatient. The MEA world is not as empty as DAI. Honestly. The overall ranking however , MEA << DAI ( that extra upvote is because of Tresspasser). But then I will wait until I finish game for the final judgement. One thing is for sure. DA2 companion and backstory is infinitely superior. I remember ignoring Isabella in my first playthrough, not because she is not fun, but because she is worthless in nightmare combat. I had to regret that decision. Everyone was different and indespensable. I don't hate MEA, don't get me wrong. And I don't hate DAI. I hate the empty desert in both these games. And I want a feckin' flying vehicle. If I'm on story quests, I like them. I don't like gathering. The exploring has far greater meaning in MEA, than in DAI, because as I said, this is a new world, so: a Pathfinder's task to find habitat. In Inquisition I felt mostly just as a hindering factor... But I said, I'm very impatient. and have OCD... not a good combination.
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Post by Catilina on Apr 5, 2017 18:01:21 GMT
DAI Hawke's different. A burned out poor bastard. And in DA Keep, the default Hawke is diplomatic. So probably even boring as well... I prefer DAI's Diplomatic Hawke to DAI's Sarcastic Hawke (all the funny is gone, poor soul.) I haven't had an Aggro Hawke in DAI yet, but suspect it being as disappointing as Sarc Hawke. Agree. But the sarcasm would be quite adequate to represent a burned out wo/man. Wasted opportunity. I guess easier to leave in the Fade, if you see Gamlen in him/her, than if you see your Hawke. (S/he have a few good moments.)
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Post by phoray on Apr 5, 2017 18:20:28 GMT
I prefer DAI's Diplomatic Hawke to DAI's Sarcastic Hawke (all the funny is gone, poor soul.) I haven't had an Aggro Hawke in DAI yet, but suspect it being as disappointing as Sarc Hawke. Agree. But the sarcasm would be quite adequate to represent a burned out wo/man. Wasted opportunity. I guess easier to leave in the Fade, if you see Gamlen in him/her, than if you see your Hawke. (S/he have a few good moments.) Oh yes. My Sarcastic Atonement Hawke was actually quite well represented when I played someone who regretted a lot of what they'd done. My Sarcastic Hawke was a hypocritcal mage who rival manced anders, Spoiler for OP sided the Templars and made Anders help kill the mages. She was angry and numb. Then Warden Carver came onto the scene and he said, " I came to help, but what are you doing?! turning on your own people?!" Then she realized the reason she was so numb and angry is she'd made a terrible decision. She wasn't even surprised when Meredith turned on her anyway, felt she deserved it. Turned down the Viscountess position and left Kirkwall with Anders anyway.
In DAI, she snarks at the Faith Spirit. the Faith Spirit apologizes for being so disappointing, and Hawke makes a sad face; in my head, she realizes she's just lashing out in anger at others when she's really just angry at herself. And when she was arguing with Alistair about the Wardens, he said something about how she'd killed a bunch of mages. And that line hurts so much more if your Hawke regrets that decision. Which supports her even angrier reply back at him.
So, being "burnt out and angry" worked for that Hawke REALLY well.
So, she had a lot to atone for but her being so alive to me made me feel her loss anyway. So much. But even after playing LEgacy, I can't feel guilty for releasing Cory- there was literally no alternatively, narratively, unless you were willing to just sit there and die. And I don't like that DAI Hawke is canon Andrastian. My characters are almost always agnostic/Atheist on the first couple play throughs and never stepped into a Chantry unless the story made them.
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Post by Catilina on Apr 5, 2017 18:35:49 GMT
Agree. But the sarcasm would be quite adequate to represent a burned out wo/man. Wasted opportunity. I guess easier to leave in the Fade, if you see Gamlen in him/her, than if you see your Hawke. (S/he have a few good moments.) Oh yes. My Sarcastic Atonement Hawke was actually quite well represented when I played someone who regretted a lot of what they'd done. My Sarcastic Hawke was a hypocritcal mage who rival manced anders, Spoiler for OP sided the Templars and made Anders help kill the mages. She was angry and numb. Then Warden Carver came onto the scene and he said, " I came to help, but what are you doing?! turning on your own people?!" Then she realized the reason she was so numb and angry is she'd made a terrible decision. She wasn't even surprised when Meredith turned on her anyway, felt she deserved it. Turned down the Viscountess position and left Kirkwall with Anders anyway. In DAI, she snarks at the Faith Spirit. the Faith Spirit apologizes for being so disappointing, and Hawke makes a sad face; in my head, she realizes she's just lashing out in anger at others when she's really just angry at herself. And when she was arguing with Alistair about the Wardens, he said something about how she'd killed a bunch of mages. And that line hurts so much more if your Hawke regrets that decision. Which supports her even angrier reply back at him. So, being "burnt out and angry" worked for that Hawke REALLY well. So, she had a lot to atone for but her being so alive to me made me feel her loss anyway. So much. But even after playing LEgacy, I can't feel guilty for releasing Cory- there was literally no alternatively, narratively, unless you were willing to just sit there and die. And I don't like that DAI Hawke is canon Andrastian. My characters are almost always agnostic/Atheist on the first couple play throughs and never stepped into a Chantry unless the story made them. This end of Hawke is probably the canon Hawke-end. Mine is just a pathetic rainbow-sunshine girl-novel. I like it!
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Post by phoray on Apr 5, 2017 18:40:45 GMT
Catilina A Hawke that regrets siding Templars and kinda hates themselves can't be the canon Hawke. It just happens to fit well.
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Post by phoray on Apr 5, 2017 18:49:05 GMT
Catilina A Hawke that regrets siding Templars and kinda hates themselves can't be the canon Hawke. It just happens to fit well. I just find a religious as heck Hawke who feels deeply responsible for Cory not to be MY canon. And then offering to die to save some random easily replaced senior Warden to be hard to swallow as anything most Hawke's would do. Why I'm making an absurdly Hero Hawke who believes in the Maker with a Warden Bethany as my Canon Sacrifice Hawke. It's barely believeable to me that he would do this. hahaha It was the closest I could get.
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Post by Catilina on Apr 5, 2017 19:03:44 GMT
Catilina A Hawke that regrets siding Templars and kinda hates themselves can't be the canon Hawke. It just happens to fit well. The writers (David Gayder wrote somewhere) surprised, how much people supported the mages. Varric (as the voice of the writers, I suppose) much more willingly support the Templars, than the Mages. So: I assume, that the writer's main concept was Viscount Hawke, who at the end (and in Inquisition) realized, that his/her "betrayal" toward his/her own fellows, hypocrisy, and/or his/her will to save the city was totally unnecessary. And fit well this grumpy bastard Inquisition Hawke. I can imagine, that THIS Hawke really regrets all, and want to redeem him/herself in the Fade.
But Hawke, who supported Mages what can regret? Nothing. Why would be grumpy burned out Gamlen? Why would like to die? (Okay, of course, probably if s/he lost his/her whole family and love... then okay, but if do not?)
My Hawkes are Andrastian. Anders-kind.
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Post by phoray on Apr 5, 2017 19:06:12 GMT
Catilina A Hawke that regrets siding Templars and kinda hates themselves can't be the canon Hawke. It just happens to fit well. The writers (David Gayder wrote somewhere) surprised, how much people supported the mages. Varric (as the voice of the writers, I suppose) much more willingly support the Templars, than the Mages. So: I assume, that the writer's main concept was Viscount Hawke, who at the end (and in Inquisition) realized, that his/her "betrayal" toward his/her own fellows, hypocrisy, and/or his/her will to save the city was totally unnecessary. And fit well this grumpy bastard Inquisition Hawke. I can imagine, that THIS Hawke really regret all, and want redeemed him/herself in the Fade. But Hawke, who supported mages what can regret? Nothing. Why would be grumpy burned out Gamlen? Why would likes to die? (Okay, of course, probably if s/he lost his/her whole family and love... then okay, but if do not?)
My Hawkes are Andrastian. Anders-kind. But the gap between the two games was a few years- long enough for them to realize that that may be THEIR canon Hawke, but not the Players. I expected them of not touching base enough--- not that of knowing and outright ignoring the choices of the fans.
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Post by Catilina on Apr 5, 2017 19:12:05 GMT
The writers (David Gayder wrote somewhere) surprised, how much people supported the mages. Varric (as the voice of the writers, I suppose) much more willingly support the Templars, than the Mages. So: I assume, that the writer's main concept was Viscount Hawke, who at the end (and in Inquisition) realized, that his/her "betrayal" toward his/her own fellows, hypocrisy, and/or his/her will to save the city was totally unnecessary. And fit well this grumpy bastard Inquisition Hawke. I can imagine, that THIS Hawke really regrets all, and want to redeem him/herself in the Fade.
But Hawke, who supported Mages what can regret? Nothing. Why would be grumpy burned out Gamlen? Why would like to die? (Okay, of course, probably if s/he lost his/her whole family and love... then okay, but if do not?)
My Hawkes are Andrastian. Anders-kind. But the gap between the two games was a few years- long enough for them to realize that that may be THEIR canon Hawke, but not the Players. I expected them of not touching base enough--- not that of knowing and outright ignoring the choices of the fans. False illusion of the freedom... Disappointing. But I can imagine, and they have been left a chance to us to spare Hawke.
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Post by mabarigoeswoof on Apr 5, 2017 22:42:05 GMT
Catilina A Hawke that regrets siding Templars and kinda hates themselves can't be the canon Hawke. It just happens to fit well. The writers (David Gayder wrote somewhere) surprised, how much people supported the mages. Varric (as the voice of the writers, I suppose) much more willingly support the Templars, than the Mages. So: I assume, that the writer's main concept was Viscount Hawke, who at the end (and in Inquisition) realized, that his/her "betrayal" toward his/her own fellows, hypocrisy, and/or his/her will to save the city was totally unnecessary. And fit well this grumpy bastard Inquisition Hawke. I can imagine, that THIS Hawke really regrets all, and want to redeem him/herself in the Fade.
But Hawke, who supported Mages what can regret? Nothing. Why would be grumpy burned out Gamlen? Why would like to die? (Okay, of course, probably if s/he lost his/her whole family and love... then okay, but if do not?)
My Hawkes are Andrastian. Anders-kind. I really dislike the writing for Here Lies the Abyss. The characterisation of everyone is terrible (like the Warden's dialogue doesn't really change regardless of who it is, and the position they take wrt to Kirkwall is the opposite of Hawke's. I'm not even going to talk about Teagan). That said, Loghain + non mage Hawke works really well. Hawke's not only been dragged back into all this shit, they've had to leave their LI behind and have to deal with the person who left the army to die at Ostagar. That even purple Hawke is bitter, sad and angry was heartbreaking in the best way. I've never left Hawke behind. Loghain gets his redemption via death, and I don't like Alistair (and his templar supporting ass got left behind, too). Hawke gets a happy ever after .... eventually. I think, though, it comes down to how you played Hawke. My canon Hawke wasn't a martyr and he definitely didn't want to die. By the end of the game (and definitely by DAI) he just wanted to be left alone.
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Post by Catilina on Apr 5, 2017 22:58:36 GMT
The writers (David Gayder wrote somewhere) surprised, how much people supported the mages. Varric (as the voice of the writers, I suppose) much more willingly support the Templars, than the Mages. So: I assume, that the writer's main concept was Viscount Hawke, who at the end (and in Inquisition) realized, that his/her "betrayal" toward his/her own fellows, hypocrisy, and/or his/her will to save the city was totally unnecessary. And fit well this grumpy bastard Inquisition Hawke. I can imagine, that THIS Hawke really regrets all, and want to redeem him/herself in the Fade.
But Hawke, who supported Mages what can regret? Nothing. Why would be grumpy burned out Gamlen? Why would like to die? (Okay, of course, probably if s/he lost his/her whole family and love... then okay, but if do not?)
My Hawkes are Andrastian. Anders-kind. I really dislike the writing for Here Lies the Abyss. The characterisation of everyone is terrible (like the Warden's dialogue doesn't really change regardless of who it is, and the position they take wrt to Kirkwall is the opposite of Hawke's. I'm not even going to talk about Teagan). That said, Loghain + non mage Hawke works really well. Hawke's not only been dragged back into all this shit, they've had to leave their LI behind and have to deal with the person who left the army to die at Ostagar. That even purple Hawke is bitter, sad and angry was heartbreaking in the best way. I've never left Hawke behind. Loghain gets his redemption via death, and I don't like Alistair (and his templar supporting ass got left behind, too). Hawke gets a happy ever after .... eventually. I think, though, it comes down to how you played Hawke. My canon Hawke wasn't a martyr and he definitely didn't want to die. By the end of the game (and definitely by DAI) he just wanted to be left alone. I wonder what the difference is, so far my mage Hawkes were in the background story. I will check it. But I think the different just whom supported Hawke: mages or templars. Or? Matter what class is Hawke of the perspective of dialogue? (Loghain is perfect sacrifice material. I always felt sorry about Stroud, and I don't have Warden Alistair.)
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Post by mabarigoeswoof on Apr 6, 2017 7:23:28 GMT
I really dislike the writing for Here Lies the Abyss. The characterisation of everyone is terrible (like the Warden's dialogue doesn't really change regardless of who it is, and the position they take wrt to Kirkwall is the opposite of Hawke's. I'm not even going to talk about Teagan). That said, Loghain + non mage Hawke works really well. Hawke's not only been dragged back into all this shit, they've had to leave their LI behind and have to deal with the person who left the army to die at Ostagar. That even purple Hawke is bitter, sad and angry was heartbreaking in the best way. I've never left Hawke behind. Loghain gets his redemption via death, and I don't like Alistair (and his templar supporting ass got left behind, too). Hawke gets a happy ever after .... eventually. I think, though, it comes down to how you played Hawke. My canon Hawke wasn't a martyr and he definitely didn't want to die. By the end of the game (and definitely by DAI) he just wanted to be left alone. I wonder what the difference is, so far my mage Hawkes were in the background story. I will check it. But I think the different just whom supported Hawke: mages or templars. Or? Matter what class is Hawke of the perspective of dialogue? (Loghain is perfect sacrifice material. I always felt sorry about Stroud, and I don't have Warden Alistair.) I've never played with a mage Hawke, so I'm not 100% sure how much different the dialogue is, but I suspect it probably isn't, since the Warden's dialogue doesn't actually change much regardless of who it is. For me, purple Hawke felt kind of OOC in my first DAI run. He's so sad and angry, and I didn't really like the dynamic with Alistair. They didn't get on, and spend a lot of the quest picking at each other, and pushing each other buttons and there isn't history between them to explain it. That dynamic works really well when Hawke and Loghain have the Ostagar back story (though I think it could easily work as well with mage Hawke. Carver and Aveline were both at Osatgar, and even if Hawke isn't on good terms with them, I think it's easy enough to imagine that he could have know others that were too)
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Post by Catilina on Apr 6, 2017 10:36:12 GMT
I wonder what the difference is, so far my mage Hawkes were in the background story. I will check it. But I think the different just whom supported Hawke: mages or templars. Or? Matter what class is Hawke of the perspective of dialogue? (Loghain is perfect sacrifice material. I always felt sorry about Stroud, and I don't have Warden Alistair.) I've never played with a mage Hawke, so I'm not 100% sure how much different the dialogue is, but I suspect it probably isn't, since the Warden's dialogue doesn't actually change much regardless of who it is. For me, purple Hawke felt kind of OOC in my first DAI run. He's so sad and angry, and I didn't really like the dynamic with Alistair. They didn't get on, and spend a lot of the quest picking at each other, and pushing each other buttons and there isn't history between them to explain it. That dynamic works really well when Hawke and Loghain have the Ostagar back story (though I think it could easily work as well with mage Hawke. Carver and Aveline were both at Osatgar, and even if Hawke isn't on good terms with them, I think it's easy enough to imagine that he could have know others that were too) I do not think, their debate about that, and there is no better chance to they knew each other before, than with Stroud or Alistair: Loghain was a regent during the battle of Ostagar. Probably Hawke saw Loghain sometimes (he lived in Ferelden), but I'm sure, that Loghain didn't realize Hawke, or even Carver. Hawke refers to him as a friend, so, the Ostagar conflict seems no problem to him. (This may be a bit strange, true, Hawke's not too squeamish, when selecting his friends...) As for confusion: there is no reference anywhere, when he befriended with the Grey Wardens... There was some opportunity to it, but... I didn't see any serious reason, except if Carver/Bethany are Grey Wardens.
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Post by phoray on Apr 6, 2017 13:05:43 GMT
Oh wow, I hadn't even thought about Hawke being personally mad at Loghain for betraying King Cailan! And more indirectly, putting his family in danger. A sibling died when they fled the Darkspawn. That's good stuff!
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Post by Catilina on Apr 6, 2017 16:24:22 GMT
Oh wow, I hadn't even thought about Hawke being personally mad at Loghain for betraying King Cailan! And more indirectly, putting his family in danger. A sibling died when they fled the Darkspawn. That's good stuff! Yes, s/he have a personal reason, because of Carver. But not necessarily. You know: Loghain blames the Grey Wardens for the betrayal. and when everything turned out about Loghain role, Carver maybe already dead.
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Post by mabarigoeswoof on Apr 7, 2017 1:08:56 GMT
Oh wow, I hadn't even thought about Hawke being personally mad at Loghain for betraying King Cailan! And more indirectly, putting his family in danger. A sibling died when they fled the Darkspawn. That's good stuff! That Hawke, Carver and Aveline were all at Ostagar is on of my favourite little bits of canon, and there are some great little references (and giving Hawke Issues is a bonus!) And it gets me through HLTA.
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Post by phoray on Apr 7, 2017 1:20:36 GMT
Oh wow, I hadn't even thought about Hawke being personally mad at Loghain for betraying King Cailan! And more indirectly, putting his family in danger. A sibling died when they fled the Darkspawn. That's good stuff! That Hawke, Carver and Aveline were all at Ostagar is on of my favourite little bits of canon, and there are some great little references (and giving Hawke Issues is a bonus!) And it gets me through HLTA. Okay, okay. Loghain will make it to DAI. Once. ONCE. I'll not give another inch.
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Post by Catilina on Apr 7, 2017 1:45:56 GMT
That Hawke, Carver and Aveline were all at Ostagar is on of my favourite little bits of canon, and there are some great little references (and giving Hawke Issues is a bonus!) And it gets me through HLTA. Okay, okay. Loghain will make it to DAI. Once. ONCE. I'll not give another inch. I like Loghain in Inquisition. For sake of Truth, I even like in DAO as a party member. I do not think a bad idea to execute him, but It does not cause pleasure.
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Post by talyn82 on Apr 8, 2017 2:48:22 GMT
I am still playing this game. I have not abandoned it. I am just having trouble with the last fight in Hightown against the Qunari. Right before Meredith and Orsino come into the picture. The Saarebas keeps one shotting Hawke, killing her instantly. My party is Hawke, Aveline, Fenris, and Anders. For the most part we've been doing good. We mopped up Lowtown fairly easy, But the last battle in Hightown right before entering the Keep is giving me trouble.
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Post by Catilina on Apr 8, 2017 2:57:34 GMT
I am still playing this game. I have not abandoned it. I am just having trouble with the last fight in Hightown against the Qunari. Right before Meredith and Orsino come into the picture. The Saarebas keeps one shotting Hawke, killing her instantly. My party is Hawke, Aveline, Fenris, and Anders. For the most part we've been doing good. We mopped up Lowtown fairly easy, But the last battle in Hightown right before entering the Keep is giving me trouble. Concentrate to Saarebas first, when appear. Your Hawke is a Warrior, yes? You don't need Aveline then, probably you need more dps, put Merrill for example. I rarely use only one Mage. And finally put down the difficulty level .
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Post by talyn82 on Apr 8, 2017 3:02:47 GMT
I am still playing this game. I have not abandoned it. I am just having trouble with the last fight in Hightown against the Qunari. Right before Meredith and Orsino come into the picture. The Saarebas keeps one shotting Hawke, killing her instantly. My party is Hawke, Aveline, Fenris, and Anders. For the most part we've been doing good. We mopped up Lowtown fairly easy, But the last battle in Hightown right before entering the Keep is giving me trouble. Concentrate to Saarebas first, when appear. Your Hawke is a Warrior, yes? You don't need Aveline then, probably you need more dps, put Merrill for example. I rarely use only one Mage. I rarely use one mage too. But this time I decided to go with Aveline (since I had no choice, I have to take her), Fenris, and Anders. I've beaten this battle before. The first time was with Aveline, Anders, and Varric. The second time was with Aveline, Fenris, and Anders. But in that playthrough I had forgotten to talk to Fenris at his mansion before the quest. So I had to reload.
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Post by Catilina on Apr 8, 2017 3:08:07 GMT
Concentrate to Saarebas first, when appear. Your Hawke is a Warrior, yes? You don't need Aveline then, probably you need more dps, put Merrill for example. I rarely use only one Mage. I rarely use one mage too. But this time I decided to go with Aveline (since I had no choice, I have to take her), Fenris, and Anders. I've beaten this battle before. The first time was with Aveline, Anders, and Varric. The second time was with Aveline, Fenris, and Anders. But in that playthrough I had forgotten to talk to Fenris at his mansion before the quest. So I had to reload. Oh, I see, sorry, Aveline in the group, yes. So: still try to concentrate to the Saarebas when appear, and taunt him with Aveline. I think, she has the biggest defense. Have you some potions? Use it then!
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Post by talyn82 on Apr 8, 2017 3:13:44 GMT
I rarely use one mage too. But this time I decided to go with Aveline (since I had no choice, I have to take her), Fenris, and Anders. I've beaten this battle before. The first time was with Aveline, Anders, and Varric. The second time was with Aveline, Fenris, and Anders. But in that playthrough I had forgotten to talk to Fenris at his mansion before the quest. So I had to reload. Oh, I see, sorry, Aveline in the group, yes. So: still try to concentrate to the Saarebas when appear, and taunt him with Aveline. I think, she has the biggest defense. Have you some potions? Use it then! Yes, luckily I still have potions. The thing that kills me is the cooldown. Also I made a bunch of elfroot potions at the estate. How do I use them?
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