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Post by Tekehu's booty on Jun 26, 2017 1:35:52 GMT
also, I learnt that spending time with homophobes is not worth it, it's more fun to poke around and taking this with humour :poop: because it's useless that I explain to you that we had only two characters with limited content and censorship, and no squadmate. It's useless I tell you that there're a lot of people happy with Jaal. When you are using numbers and stadistics to undervalue lgbtq people, because we are lesser persons. ANYWAY KEEP CRYING You are making a lot of assumptions. You should try being more open minded and less judgemental. But you seem very immature so I'll give you a pass. it's what you get when us for you are numbers and not human beings to receive equal treatment. Nice try mature one.
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Post by Salty Drell on Jun 26, 2017 1:37:03 GMT
also, I learnt that spending time with homophobes is not worth it, it's more fun to poke around and taking this with humour :poop: because it's useless that I explain to you that we had only two characters with limited content and censorship, and no squadmate. It's useless I tell you that there're a lot of people happy with Jaal. When you are using numbers and stadistics to undervalue lgbtq people, because we are lesser persons. ANYWAY KEEP CRYING You are making a lot of assumptions. You should try being more open minded and less judgemental. But you seem very immature so I'll give you a pass. Coming from a textbook homophobe, that's funny.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 1:38:46 GMT
BW has always included gay romances, but this time they excluded the gay players and prevented an achievement from being completed with only 2 LI's for them. Now they have 3 and a squadmate romance too, which everyone else had except for them, and straight Scott still gets the most content, so I don't see the problem. Everyone should be happy, not feel left out. And I was always happy for them to do so. My two favorite characters in DAI were Dorian (gay) and Sera (lesbian). And I've said many time that Cortez was a much more interesting character than Vega in ME3 and I wish I could have Cortez as a squadmate and leave Vega home to fix the shuttle. But I think BioWare should be focusing on making the best game they can and not putting all their thought into making sure they have ticked all the right boxes and not offended anyone. Patching Jaal for Scott was not all what patch 1.08 was about though. They've changed scenes, fixed animations and even corrected dialogue triggers. The problem is they launched the game without getting more time to complete it, so now they are left patching in what should have been already in the game in March (including Jaal being bi). I have been with everyone from the start and watched as BW led on gay players, only to crush their hopes when they made Jaal straight. It's not just that cutting him was unfair, but marketing kept twisting all the romances, telling us things that weren't true and then changing it. It was a nightmare, so this outrage at Jaal was like a volcano ready to erupt since they started that guessing game with us fans. Everything about the MEA marketing was wrong, and very sad. You are right though, the main focus should be on improving the game (though I found patch 1.08 was an improvement all around), and since they are planing more patches, it's obvious they agree too, but they caused that mess, so it had to be fixed first and rightfully so, and now they can focus on everything else.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 1:53:12 GMT
Here is the thing. Bioware led us on with this bullshit we want you to find the romances on your own knowing damn well the gay players would be pissed when they found out the reality. The knew how much potential money they would lose if we knew what the romance situation was before the game launched so they decided to be deceptive. To add the cherry on top of this insult if you didn't romance Cora, Peebee or Jaal you got the moldy leftovers in terms of romance content. So yea people are rightfully pissed about this game.
That being said since I have zero faith in any dlcs for this game I should just move on from hoping to get any content with Vetra.
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Post by Tigger on Jun 26, 2017 1:56:42 GMT
You are making a lot of assumptions. You should try being more open minded and less judgemental. But you seem very immature so I'll give you a pass. Coming from a textbook homophobe, that's funny. I don't find that funny at all. Have I used any derogatory terms towards you or anyone else in this thread? I consider being called a homophobe an insult. I've treated everyone in this thread with respect and, in turn, have been met with snide comments, insults and what appears to be a shit emoji. Continue to attack me because of my sexual orientation and I may have to report you for hate speech.
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Post by Tekehu's booty on Jun 26, 2017 2:01:10 GMT
Coming from a textbook homophobe, that's funny. I don't find that funny at all. Have I used any derogatory terms towards you or anyone else in this thread? I consider being called a homophobe an insult. I've treated everyone in this thread with respect and, in turn, have been met with snide comments, insults and what appears to be a shit emoji. Continue to attack me because of my sexual orientation and I may have to report you for hate speech. Emmm again, if you are using numbers to scorn us as human beings in our right to ask for equal content and treatment, you are a homophobe. Plz report me, I dont care the button it's right there
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 2:04:13 GMT
Tigger Ummm... I'm a straight woman and I replied because I felt your post was not exactly respectful...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 2:10:21 GMT
Some people are never happy. According to some pretty extensive studies between 91% and 98% of adult males identify as heterosexual depending on the country. Gay and bisexual men were massively over-represented in this game to begin with. Then BioWare added another one. And you are still complaining. They are under no obligation to include any gay romances. I want a half Japanese half black chick to bang. If I hold my breath and stamp my feet will BioWare add one in the next patch or does that only work if you're gay? 1. Your study is meaningless because it doesn't apply to this fictional universe. 2. How can you say gay and bisexual men are over repressented in a fictional universe? Where is the basis for this? 3. You are coming off as an ass for people wanting their fair share. 4. I say this as a straight guy who wanted way more in the Vetra romance but I'm not "holding my breath and stomping my feet" as you said. 5. From what I gathered Jaal was supposed to be bi from the start so it is simply doing what they should have done from the get go.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 2:21:33 GMT
Some people are never happy. According to some pretty extensive studies between 91% and 98% of adult males identify as heterosexual depending on the country. Gay and bisexual men were massively over-represented in this game to begin with. Then BioWare added another one. And you are still complaining. They are under no obligation to include any gay romances. I want a half Japanese half black chick to bang. If I hold my breath and stamp my feet will BioWare add one in the next patch or does that only work if you're gay? 1. Your study is meaningless because it doesn't apply to this fictional universe. 2. How can you say gay and bisexual men are over repressented in a fictional universe? Where is the basis for this? 3. You are coming off as an ass for people wanting their fair share. 4. I say this as a straight guy who wanted way more in the Vetra romance but I'm not "holding my breath and stomping my feet" as you said. 5. From what I gathered Jaal was supposed to be bi from the start so it is simply doing what they should have done from the get go. Yeah after being spoiled on Garrus, Vetra was a let down from the vids I saw. Felt bad for the guys who finally got to romance a Turian. I didn't get many options I liked in MEA. Heck except for Jaal, my other 2 options as a straight woman were totally lacking (thank goodness for Jaal!), so when a guy wants more female romance options, I kind of see red lol and yes, Jaal was meant to be bi, so patch 1.08 was just adding what they couldn't finish.
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Post by Tigger on Jun 26, 2017 2:24:40 GMT
I don't find that funny at all. Have I used any derogatory terms towards you or anyone else in this thread? I consider being called a homophobe an insult. I've treated everyone in this thread with respect and, in turn, have been met with snide comments, insults and what appears to be a shit emoji. Continue to attack me because of my sexual orientation and I may have to report you for hate speech. Emmm again, if you are using numbers to scorn us as human beings in our right to ask for equal content and treatment, you are a homophobe. Plz report me, I dont care the button it's right there Considering what you have no doubt had to deal with in your life I find it sad that you would judge me when you don't even know me. I have already said that I find being called a homophobe offensive yet you continue to do so. I have tried to remain civil but I have ran out of patience. You are a hipocrite and a bigot and I won't waste any more of my time on you. You will no doubt claim this as some kind of victory. Which is even sadder. Goodbye.
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Post by Salty Drell on Jun 26, 2017 2:26:27 GMT
Coming from a textbook homophobe, that's funny. I don't find that funny at all. Have I used any derogatory terms towards you or anyone else in this thread? I consider being called a homophobe an insult. I've treated everyone in this thread with respect and, in turn, have been met with snide comments, insults and what appears to be a shit emoji. Continue to attack me because of my sexual orientation and I may have to report you for hate speech. If you don't like being called a homophobe, stop being homophobic. And Tekehu's booty has already explained to you twice how you are being homophobic, so if you forget again, I will be seriously worried for you. Oh wait, no I won't, at all.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 26, 2017 2:27:06 GMT
I hope next game has a LI that is part of the ace spectrum. Mass Effect hasn't had a LI who is one of those orientations.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 2:27:48 GMT
I hope next game has a LI that is part of the ace spectrum. Mass Effect hasn't had a LI who is one of those orientations. Seriously? Not one? At all?
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Post by Tekehu's booty on Jun 26, 2017 2:29:36 GMT
Emmm again, if you are using numbers to scorn us as human beings in our right to ask for equal content and treatment, you are a homophobe. Plz report me, I dont care the button it's right there Considering what you have no doubt had to deal with in your life I find it sad that you would judge me when you don't even know me. I have already said that I find being called a homophobe offensive yet you continue to do so. I have tried to remain civil but I have ran out of patience. You are a hipocrite and a bigot and I won't waste any more of my time on you. You will no doubt claim this as some kind of victory. Which is even sadder. Goodbye. lol dont gooooo I swear I'm not a heterophobe I have a lot of straight friends!!!!!!!!!!!! lol I'm still waiting an apology for using numbers and stadistics to lesser us as human beings :poop: anyway, goodbye Felicia
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 26, 2017 2:29:59 GMT
I hope next game has a LI that is part of the ace spectrum. Mass Effect hasn't had a LI who is one of those orientations. Seriously? Not one? At all? Well, there hasn't been an official asexual or demisexual LI in any Bioware games. The closest is Josephine in DAI since her writer stated her being seen as those orientations is a perfectly valid interpretation. But yeah in Mass Effect they have never done one.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 2:31:53 GMT
I hope next game has a LI that is part of the ace spectrum. Mass Effect hasn't had a LI who is one of those orientations. Don't hold your breath on the next game.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 2:32:48 GMT
Seriously? Not one? At all? Not surprising. There hasn't been an official asexual or demisexual LI in any Bioware games. The closest is Josephine in DAI since her writer stated her being seen as those orientations is a perfectly valid interpretation. Josie is a good example of how many like a romance like that. It would be nice if BW would see that too. I'm betting gay men and straight women will be at the bottom of the list in DA4, as well as ace people. We'll see lots of lesbians and m/f romances though.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 26, 2017 2:39:15 GMT
I hope next game has a LI that is part of the ace spectrum. Mass Effect hasn't had a LI who is one of those orientations. Don't hold your breath on the next game. I'm not. Even the DA devs talked about how they don't plan on making ace LIs yet, instead seeing the optional sex or ambiguous romances as enough. If even DA isn't looking into having actual ace characters, ME certainly won't.
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Post by Dirk on Jun 26, 2017 2:41:01 GMT
Ahhh the same old arguments that "[insert minority groups] are never happy/satisfied" and that "[insert minority groups] are only x% of the population" therefore they don't deserve equal representation/romance options. I swear some homophobes are so lazy that they are now plagiarizing these arguments lol.
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Post by Salty Drell on Jun 26, 2017 2:43:42 GMT
Ahhh the same old arguments that "[insert minority groups] are never happy/satisfied" and that "[insert minority groups] are only x% of the population" therefore they don't deserve equal representation/romance options. I swear some homophobes are so lazy that they are now plagiarizing these arguments lol. I know, it looked like it was copied straight from 'homophobia 101'. Like, at least have some originality when you're being an awful human being.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 26, 2017 2:45:34 GMT
Not surprising. There hasn't been an official asexual or demisexual LI in any Bioware games. The closest is Josephine in DAI since her writer stated her being seen as those orientations is a perfectly valid interpretation. Josie is a good example of how many like a romance like that. It would be nice if BW would see that too. I'm betting gay men and straight women will be at the bottom of the list in DA4, as well as ace people. We'll see lots of lesbians and m/f romances though. Yeah. I don't see straight women as getting the least options in DA4. After all in every DA game so far straight women were either tied at the most or had the most romances(not counting people attracted to more than one sex obviously). DAO they were tied with straight men at 2, in DA2 they had the most at 3 if you got the Sebastian DLC, and in DAI they had the most at 4, twice as much as any other group. The Da team has been pretty good when it comes to having equal options for straight, bi, and gay people. It's just ace people who have been left behind.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 2:52:47 GMT
Josie is a good example of how many like a romance like that. It would be nice if BW would see that too. I'm betting gay men and straight women will be at the bottom of the list in DA4, as well as ace people. We'll see lots of lesbians and m/f romances though. Yeah. I don't see straight women as getting the least options in DA4. After all in every DA game so far straight women were either tied at the most or had the most romances(not counting people attracted to more than one sex obviously). DAO they were tied with straight men at 2, in DA2 they had the most at 3 if you got the Sebastian DLC, and in DAI they had the most at 4, twice as much as any other group. The Da team has been pretty good when it comes to having equal options for straight, bi, and gay people. It's just ace people who have been left behind. Well after MEA I expect we'll be downgraded too (sexual content I mean. Not LI numbers. Jaal is the only sex scene Sara got in MEA for straight women. Scott got 2) lol and Sebastian is evil. Pure evil! We do not speak of him.
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Post by Dirk on Jun 26, 2017 2:56:50 GMT
And speaking of ace-spectrum romance, I hope Bioware does research and considers feedback from actual people in ace-spectrum. Last thing we need is a fetishized ace-spectrum romance.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 26, 2017 2:57:53 GMT
Yeah. I don't see straight women as getting the least options in DA4. After all in every DA game so far straight women were either tied at the most or had the most romances(not counting people attracted to more than one sex obviously). DAO they were tied with straight men at 2, in DA2 they had the most at 3 if you got the Sebastian DLC, and in DAI they had the most at 4, twice as much as any other group. The Da team has been pretty good when it comes to having equal options for straight, bi, and gay people. It's just ace people who have been left behind. Well after MEA I expect we'll be downgraded too (sexual content I mean. Not LI numbers. Jaal is the only sex scene we got in MEA. Scott got 3) lol and Sebastian is evil. Pure evil! We do not speak of him. Possibly, or due to fan backlash towards how MEA handled it there will be even more sexual content in future games(at least ME and DA, not sure if Anthem will even have romances). That's one thing that has me worried about what little options ace people have since they may go back to everybody has mandatory sex in the romance again.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 2:58:22 GMT
And speaking of ace-spectrum romance, I hope Bioware does research and considers feedback from actual people in ace-spectrum. Last thing we need is a fetishized ace-spectrum romance. They still need to make bisexual males flirt with other males too and stop being ladykillers.
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