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Post by sageoflife on Mar 30, 2017 21:11:39 GMT
Personally, I'd rather continue to play as Ryder so he can see through all those things he uncovered near the end of the game.
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Post by Fogg on Mar 30, 2017 21:18:22 GMT
I don't know if there'll be a sequal. How are the sales after those mixed reviews?
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Mar 30, 2017 21:27:25 GMT
I'm not fanboying, I just have seen you in thread after thread shitting on every aspect of this game and praising numerous others. Just doing my part in helping turn this sinking ship around. I'd like the next Mass Effect to not be shit, you see? If it wasn't for all this criticism, do you think BioWare would be making their BIG announcement and hopefully fixing things? Nope. They'd be counting your money and laughing, while figuring out on how much less effort they can put in next time because fanboys will buy and defend anything. Man,just... shut it.
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Post by steamz on Mar 30, 2017 21:27:46 GMT
^ sales are probably just fine. we can't know though because i think only physical sales numbers are available.
but i wouldn't mind a new protagonist. i'm not crazy about ryder or the crew tbh. no strong feelings either way. and i'm convinced people suggest playing as the other twin just so everyone will tell them it's never gonna happen.
actually, i might want new protagonists just in the hopes of getting better VAs.
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Post by acehilator on Mar 30, 2017 21:28:24 GMT
Not a chance for another protagonist. Who the hell would it be?
On Ark Hyperion: "Oh guys, we totally forgot, we still have another N7 soldier in cryo." - "Nice, let's thaw him out, the Kett are coming!"
But it is fine, Ryder definitely worked.
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Post by Cannibal on Mar 30, 2017 21:28:34 GMT
I wouldn't have a problem playing the Twin in a sequel but I doubt they'll do it because some would take issue with being forced to play the opposite gender I could seeing them playing as the twin in a story DLC because one DLC as the Twin shouldn't hurt too bad Yeah maybe it would be a too bold desicion to make. Twin DLC is more likely since EA wants to take our money in every way possible Twin DLC would be an awful decision for "money making". DLC is not bought by most fans. And the fans that do want DLC want DLC that expands our character and our relationships. A DLC where we play as Sara, and the story doesn't expand my Ryder, is a DLC, I don't care about. As for Andromeda 2, they should stick with Ryder. I don't like the way Dragon Age is doing it, I'd rather have the Warden back with Leliana at his side(also Isabella). But the way they're doing Dragon Age, it is working. For it to work that way in Andromeda 2, they need to completely change the setting(again) which would be an awful idea. You can't have an Andromeda 2 without the Andromeda Initiative, and you can't have the AI without the Pathfinder and all the characters we already know. I mean I guess Ryder and the tempest crew can go missing and the new PC will have to find them, but that doesn't sound good, does it?
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Post by commandercryptarch on Mar 30, 2017 21:31:08 GMT
Given the criticism on the writing of the game, I strongly believe making MEA a trilogy is more beneficial. The format of ME has been trilogy based and it gives the amount of time needed for the players to get more attached to the characters and player character. Give Ryder two more games ,make each bettwr than the last, give it an epic and satisfying ending and in the long run people will love the MEA Trilogy and the first game,even if it had a rocky start,will be looked at as just a piece of a whole and players will be more forgiving. In my opinion ,leaving it as stand alone without building upon serves no purpose for the franchise. This is just me personally speaking but I honestly don't want to see another trilogy, duology or something like that. I'd rather not have another grand war to end all wars. I wouldn't mind seeing overarching storylines that last a couple of games that is related that way but not a story that's suppose to be the story . I may be explaining this poorly and I may be misunderstanding. Sorry if that is the case. I've come to think and feel that Mass Effect tends to be best when the stories feature the same cast but in stories that are more stand alone or have overarching storylines. I love the OT and each game was fun but looking at each story as a part of a trilogy, it had some serious problems, in my opinion. I think it's better to play to strengths such as characters and adventures. It can allow for a lot more free room to write different kinds of adventures. Basically, have Ryder and their crew be exploring and adventuring, solving different troubles and mysteries, be involved in politics and faction conflicts. It could lend itself to a lot of fun with the diversity of stories we could have. Political intrigue one game, a mystery the next and so on. No need to keep trying to up the scale of the challenge to that of the Reapers and beyond: make the challenge different and a different kind of fun each story. Have the focus be Ryder and their crew: their adventure and their journeys together. Develop those characters, grow those relationships and make those stories be enjoyable and we should be good, I think. I agree overall. What I meant to say with my post was that 2 more games with Ryder would benefit the franchise ,regardless the story. I don't it need to be a 'trilogy' trilogy as in one story like Shepard's was.It can be distinct adventures with overarching themes and intertwining plot lines. We could even have the events happen years apart, have our Ryder 'grow' as a character into the role of the Pathfinder and grow in age. I'd like to see the state of the Heleus cluster 5 or 10 years later and see if anyone will manage to travel outside the cluster into bew undiscovered territories. Despite my gripes with the game, 50 hours later I have grown attached to my Ryder and I don't want her to be 'taken' away so soon. (I want purple angaran Jaal babies and a house on Aya damnit!!!! )
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Post by jamiecotc on Mar 30, 2017 21:39:41 GMT
Seeing how Ryder was the Pathfinder I imagine the ME team will take the Dragon Age approach, and have another protagonist with another job/title/whatever. It's unfortunate, but ME:A wasn't received very well, so Ryder may be seen as tainted. Not sure. Honestly, I'm a bit tired of the DA approach. They keep saying Thedas is the star, but Thedas just isn't that interesting and neither is Andromeda. So, yeah, keep Ryder, please.
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Post by FeralEwok on Mar 30, 2017 21:46:36 GMT
We've only explored the Helius cluster and barely scratched the surface of Andromeda with this game. There's a lot more of the galaxy that needs to be explored and they already set up the Pathfinders as the tip of the spear.
Beyond that, there's some plot stuff concerning the Ryder family that would seem to indicate they have much more to do...I suppose they could fit it all into DLC for the game.
Overall I hope they keep Scott/Sara Ryder for future games, they are way more alive than any other previous BW protagonist and have great potential to grow with the next game to a more seasoned adventurer.
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Post by cobalt72 on Mar 30, 2017 21:56:23 GMT
I wouldn't mind playing as Ryder again and maybe some or all of the same squad and crew. Not sure about playing as the twin. People could just circumvent that by starting a totally new save instead of importing choices from this game
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Post by dazzarlok on Mar 30, 2017 21:57:20 GMT
Not a chance for another protagonist. Who the hell would it be? On Ark Hyperion: "Oh guys, we totally forgot, we still have another N7 soldier in cryo." - "Nice, let's thaw him out, the Kett are coming!" But it is fine, Ryder definitely worked. You say this in a joking manner, however, I wouldn't be surprised at all if that actually ended up happening
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Post by hellcat0420 on Mar 30, 2017 21:58:43 GMT
I wouldnt mind a new main character as long as it's less snowflakey than Ryder.
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Post by fchopin on Mar 30, 2017 22:00:07 GMT
No more Ryders.
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Post by canuckgamer on Mar 30, 2017 22:02:48 GMT
The Ryder's are young and I think that was on purpose. I expect a 10 year time jump in ME:A2 with the Ryders aging. I can see a new protagonist in the 3rd game.
The interesting thing is the SAM makes it possible to keep continuity to an extent and STILL introduce a new player controlled character.
If they did introduce a new character I hope they jump about 20-30 years down the road and give you the option to choose your species. The Ryders and your former companions would be alive, you would get to see all they accomplished and how it has grown since then but also get a fresh new character story.
If I had my preference it would be Ryder's in ME:A2 and a new protagonist in ME:A3
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Post by zan on Mar 30, 2017 22:03:45 GMT
I don't like DA approach. Prevents me from investing into my current character as much and seeing my ex-protagonist later as an NPC just irks me. Hawke in DAI was awful and acted extremely out of character.
DA:O's endings felt like they had impact on the world. Except then DA2 was released and almost all of DA:O's choices were made largely meaningless. It is a great strategy for not polluting your world states with carry over choices that need to be addressed, but it makes me feel like I am not playing an RPG but clicking through a visual novel. Only control you get over the world state is a way in which you get to murder a random monster and the which line you'll deliver as you kill the boss. Everything else is predetermined.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 22:03:50 GMT
Well, would not it have been motivated by them wanting to continue with the Warden rather than adopt the third PoV? I always thought the Dragon Age copied Martin's approach to presenting the story from different PoVs, it's news to me that protagonist was changed because there was a backlash against the middle child specifically (who is tbh the most charming out of the three for me who played all three games back to back just now). Yep, agreed, humorous Hawke ftw! I figured people hated Hawke because they liked and wanted to play as the Grey Warden again. Hawke was good. Still don't want a new protagonist.
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Post by JiM on Mar 30, 2017 22:29:03 GMT
What about someone who isn't human or from the opposition, set to take Andromeda back from the Milky Invaders? (MEA = Paragon, MEA2 = Renegade)
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Post by valkyriesr2 on Mar 30, 2017 22:31:14 GMT
Kiiiinda hopeing we'll go back to the Milky Way to be honest. Eventually. I don't mind more Andromeda first, but at some point I hope they'll man up and make some proper decisions for how things went down in the Reaper War. It's a nasty pot of volatile poison still, but at some point I think it'll be safe enough without being a pandora' box for the series.
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Mar 30, 2017 22:34:20 GMT
Kiiiinda hopeing we'll go back to the Milky Way to be honest. Eventually. I don't mind more Andromeda first, but at some point I hope they'll man up and make some proper decisions for how things went down in the Reaper War. It's a nasty pot of volatile poison still, but at some point I think it'll be safe enough without being a pandora' box for the series. I hope they don't because I don't think there is any way they can fix the three color endings without something consulted taking place. Well, not unless it takes ten thousand or so years later, so all remains of MET are gone.
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Post by valkyriesr2 on Mar 30, 2017 22:38:32 GMT
Kiiiinda hopeing we'll go back to the Milky Way to be honest. Eventually. I don't mind more Andromeda first, but at some point I hope they'll man up and make some proper decisions for how things went down in the Reaper War. It's a nasty pot of volatile poison still, but at some point I think it'll be safe enough without being a pandora' box for the series. I hope they don't because I don't think there is any way they can fix the three color endings without something consulted taking place. Well, not unless it takes ten thousand or so years later, so all remains of MET are gone. And this is exactly why it's not the time to go back to the Milky Way. People are still angry/worried/emotional/whatever over the ending. I know I am. But one day, things will be right for a return, whatever shape it takes.
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Mar 30, 2017 22:40:03 GMT
I hope they don't because I don't think there is any way they can fix the three color endings without something consulted taking place. Well, not unless it takes ten thousand or so years later, so all remains of MET are gone. And this is exactly why it's not the time to go back to the Milky Way. People are still angry/worried/emotional/whatever over the ending. I know I am. But one day, things will be right for a return, whatever shape it takes. I hope you are right then.
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Post by Shinobu on Mar 30, 2017 22:40:24 GMT
I really like both Ryders VAs and want more games with them. I don't love the squad yet, but I didn't love Tali and Garrus until I'd had more than one game with them.
I don't like the DA approach because I can't get attached to the PC or the squad in just one game. Then I have to make a new PC and meet another group with daddy issues.
Please, Bioware, just continue in Andromeda with everyone as they are!
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Post by obatalaryder on Mar 30, 2017 22:44:16 GMT
Even if Ryder is not my absolute favorite, there's no point in jumping ship.
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Post by Brannegan on Mar 30, 2017 22:48:15 GMT
Definitely want to keep playing Ryder. Definitely don't want the ME2/ME3 approach of love interests leaving the crew. DAI's conclusion has already left a bit of a sour taste in my mouth since despite the dev claims I don't feel my Inquisitor's story was at all concluded after what happened in Tresspasser. Before it, sure. After it, 100% not. Swapping Ryder would leave me feeling similarly disconnected with all the unsolved mysteries around (and I doubt the DLC is going to solve all of them).
Keeping Ryder and the crew would also allow BW to explore some deeper friendships and romances seeing as Ryder could potentially be a parent come next game. Altho I can see how it could be very unfriendly to new players but... I'm of the opinion that pandering new players too much is one of the great plagues affecting video games in this generation.
I also like that the protagonist handling separates the two franchises. I like my Dragon Age for some nice fantasy with new setting and perspective each game and my Mass Effect for the crew that I get to know better and better game after game. I'd be fine with MEA3 having a new protagonist tho, but ONLY if there's a big enough time jump for Ryder to be long dead.
Additionally I'd have no problems with Ryder just starting at lvl 1. It's a damn video game.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Mar 30, 2017 22:51:51 GMT
I'm really enjoying the 50 hours I've spent with default Sara so far, I'd happily continue her journey in a sequel. yeah same her I've not completed my first playthrough of MEA yet but I like the characters and where the story is going so far and I'd like to see Ryder and the crew grow more as people. As I have to admit I'm liking most of the crew. PB is a bit of a tricky one to judge but I like all the other's but then I wasn't too keen on Sera either at first on DAI
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