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Post by RageUnderFire on Mar 31, 2017 1:07:33 GMT
Complete opposite for me. RPG doesn't have to mean "customizing gear and abilities" - and the story in ME2 was a great continuation of ME1. Andromeda the least "RPG" out of all the games as your choices mean fuck all - you just agree with people in up to four different tones of voice, and then waddle along to the final boss, with nothing changing along the way... I was probably expecting the worst since Casey Hudson left as he was the heart and soul of Mass Effect. Andromeda has managed to eclipse even my worst expectations, hitting a new low I didn't think possible Heart and soul yet he's to blame for the contradictory mess that was ME3. Funny you mention "choices not mattering" lulz. N7 part 3 plays better than this game though. We went from an alpha male to a meterosexual NYSNC member.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Mar 31, 2017 1:10:37 GMT
Heart and soul yet he's to blame for the contradictory mess that was ME3. Funny you mention "choices not mattering" lulz. Loved ME3 - I really hope you're enjoying how every. single. choice. in. Andromeda means absolutely nothing. This game is so bad there won't be another Mass Effect for at least a decade until people forget about this debacle. Sad! That's fine, just don't be a hypocrite and pretend ME3 didn't do the same. Or ME2, he'll, even ME one contradicts itself too. The choices never really mattered in the end dude, so don't see how andromeda is any different.
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Post by RageUnderFire on Mar 31, 2017 1:11:35 GMT
As early as the first level ME3 story already reels your ass in.
You're forced to leave your mentor and homeworld as its getting raped.
You watch the little boy who you tried to save 5 minutes ago get killed right before your eyes.
This game don't got any of those moments. The death of your dad ffs pales in comparison. Here have my hat cuz yours broke. Then he dies. wtf
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Post by Kabraxal on Mar 31, 2017 1:15:15 GMT
Heart and soul yet he's to blame for the contradictory mess that was ME3. Funny you mention "choices not mattering" lulz. Loved ME3 - I really hope you're enjoying how every. single. choice. in. Andromeda means absolutely nothing. This game is so bad there won't be another Mass Effect for at least a decade until people forget about this debacle. Sad! You mean to tell me all those choices I made that actually affected how people interacted with me, how the end game happened, and the choices of what quests to do were all in my imagination? Huh... and here I thought I was just having a great time with one of the best games ever. Glad you sent me straight. Your continued vitriol and hate have shown me the error of my ways. By the way, that last bit is sarcasm. Just so you know.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Mar 31, 2017 1:15:24 GMT
As early as the first level ME3 story already reels your ass in. You're forced to leave your mentor and homeworld as its getting raped. You watch the little boy who you tried to save 5 minutes ago get killed right before your eyes. This game don't got any of those moments. The death of your dad ffs pales in comparison. Here have my hat cuz yours broke. Then he dies. wtf I'd put spoilers for those who don't know. But yes, Andromeda has a lackluster story. They could've at least tried extending on losing your dad and giving closure to it, let you see Ryder's emotions but nah. There really is no reason to care since you're not attached to him.
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Post by Kelwing on Mar 31, 2017 1:17:37 GMT
It is what I expected and enjoying it greatly. Things need fixed or improved but doesn't effect my enjoyment so far.
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Post by suikoden on Mar 31, 2017 1:17:58 GMT
Loved ME3 - I really hope you're enjoying how every. single. choice. in. Andromeda means absolutely nothing. This game is so bad there won't be another Mass Effect for at least a decade until people forget about this debacle. Sad! That's fine, just don't be a hypocrite and pretend ME3 didn't do the same. Or ME2, he'll, even ME one contradicts itself too. The choices never really mattered in the end dude, so don't see how andromeda is any different. Tons of choices carried over from 1 to 2 and from 2 to 3. You just didn't get your happily ever after ending you were expecting - that doesn't negate how many meaningful choices you made along the way. Literally nothing matters in Andromeda along the way. You just say "yes" 4 different ways. You might as well just play the multiplayer - there's more meaningful choices happening there.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 31, 2017 1:19:16 GMT
Heart and soul yet he's to blame for the contradictory mess that was ME3. Funny you mention "choices not mattering" lulz. Loved ME3 - I really hope you're enjoying how every. single. choice. in. Andromeda means absolutely nothing. This game is so bad there won't be another Mass Effect for at least a decade until people forget about this debacle. Sad! This brand of willful obtuseness makes me believe that this is essentially a gag meant to rile people up.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 31, 2017 1:19:47 GMT
Pretty much, more or less, exactly what I was expecting.
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Post by RageUnderFire on Mar 31, 2017 1:22:39 GMT
Since the choices we make in this game don't seem to matter.
Let hope none carry over into a possible sequel.
It'd be painful to go through this game again for desired results in the sequel.
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Post by AGECCR on Mar 31, 2017 1:25:03 GMT
2-3 years ago? Definitely better. I wasn't sure what was going to happen, to be honest. Plus, I was still missing my Shepard and Squad.
5 years was a good time to help say "Goodbye" to the old and get ready for a new, fresh take (like with ST:TOS and ST:TNG). I was open for a change and actually looking forward to it since last summer. That attitude certainly helped to make this game enjoyable for myself.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 31, 2017 1:25:58 GMT
Since the choices we make in this game don't seem to matter. Let hope none carry over into a possible sequel. It'd be painful to go through this game again for desired results in the sequel. So you complain about your choices NOT mattering in the game (and they do actually matter within the game) and then say that if they did matter it would be a BAD thing....because it would be hard for you to game the system....
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 31, 2017 1:26:36 GMT
That's fine, just don't be a hypocrite and pretend ME3 didn't do the same. Or ME2, he'll, even ME one contradicts itself too. The choices never really mattered in the end dude, so don't see how andromeda is any different. Tons of choices carried over from 1 to 2 and from 2 to 3. You just didn't get your happily ever after ending you were expecting - that doesn't negate how many meaningful choices you made along the way. Literally nothing matters in Andromeda along the way. You just say "yes" 4 different ways. You might as well just play the multiplayer - there's more meaningful choices happening there. The problem with the whole argument of "meaningful" choices is that "meaningful" is really vague. OK, so what makes it meaningful? In a game that is potentially the start of a new series, what big decisions should we be able to make, and what expectations should we have on how well a future game can account for them? ME1 had very few big decisions, 2 of which determined the fate of companions. The last big decision turned out to be a dud, because that all-human Council thing was idiotic and ME2 retconned it. The Collector Base decision didn't make any sense, and the fact that it had to be a decision at all basically sealed its fate in being totally irrelevant, because TIM & Co get indoctrinated regardless, and they still get a piece of the human reaper somehow even if we blow it up in a place filled with BLACK HOLES. Where ME, and even DA really shine are in the little choices, because they don't have to have a ripple effect across the setting, but their meaning isn't something I feel should be defined by how big it is.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 1:26:43 GMT
I did not hear about it 2-3 years ago. But it is exactly what I have imagined from the info I gathered once they've announced the release date. Information was actually surprisingly accurate.
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Mar 31, 2017 1:27:12 GMT
Since the choices we make in this game don't seem to matter. Let hope none carry over into a possible sequel. It'd be painful to go through this game again for desired results in the sequel. So you complain about your choices NOT mattering in the game (and they do actually matter within the game) and then say that if they did matter it would be a BAD thing....because it would be hard for you to game the system.... Don't question it. Just let it happen. It will get figured out eventually.
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Post by Cyonan on Mar 31, 2017 1:31:22 GMT
More or less, yeah. Though of course I wasn't expecting as many technical issues as they've had.
As far as the whole "your choices don't matter" thing, since when did they ever matter that much in Mass Effect? The original trilogy had no problem negating our choices just to ensure that we got the same set of missions every game.
Killed the Rachni queen? They'll just cook up another one so we can explain the Ravagers for everybody.
Made Anderson the council member? It's gonna be Udina in ME3 no matter what so we can have his betrayal arc and so Anderson can stay on Earth.
Made a decision about the collector base in ME2? Yeah... that's just gonna change how many war assets you get.
and most of the smaller choices just boiled down to an email in the next game, because apparently everybody in the god damn galaxy has Shep's email address.
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Post by SofNascimento on Mar 31, 2017 1:31:22 GMT
It's kind of sad that videos like this are more fun than the game itself...
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Post by ShadowAngel on Mar 31, 2017 1:31:24 GMT
That's fine, just don't be a hypocrite and pretend ME3 didn't do the same. Or ME2, he'll, even ME one contradicts itself too. The choices never really mattered in the end dude, so don't see how andromeda is any different. Tons of choices carried over from 1 to 2 and from 2 to 3. You just didn't get your happily ever after ending you were expecting - that doesn't negate how many meaningful choices you made along the way. Literally nothing matters in Andromeda along the way. You just say "yes" 4 different ways. You might as well just play the multiplayer - there's more meaningful choices happening there. I actually didn't care about a happy ending, I think they're overused to much already. My issue is how the rachni decision in One meant nothing, choosing what you do with the collector base in ME2 meant nothing. I can go on, why does Anderson leave the council? What was the point appointing him if udina gets it in the end? My own issue with the ending in ME3 itself is they really don't differ much to be significant. i don't mind people disliking Andromeda, but to say it has plot holes or meaningless decisions and then pretending the original didn't? The entirety of mass effect is nothing but a huge contradiction of itself if you really look at it.
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Post by smilesja on Mar 31, 2017 1:32:43 GMT
It's kind of sad that videos like this are more fun than the game itself... Did you really enjoy the game?
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Post by colfoley on Mar 31, 2017 1:34:53 GMT
It's kind of sad that videos like this are more fun than the game itself... Did you really enjoy the game? I wouldn't think so...
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Post by SofNascimento on Mar 31, 2017 1:37:03 GMT
It's kind of sad that videos like this are more fun than the game itself... Did you really enjoy the game? I haven't finished it. But yep, I'm enjoying it.
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Post by jennica on Mar 31, 2017 1:37:25 GMT
I didn't like DAI and didn't expect much from MEA so no, Andromeda is not what I expected. I'm actually enjoying the game for the most part.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 31, 2017 1:38:07 GMT
Did you really enjoy the game? I haven't finished it. But yep, I'm enjoying it. ....well I'm wrong. Also a bit surprised.
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Post by smudgedhorizon on Mar 31, 2017 1:49:51 GMT
Bioware are an RPG developer, historically their fanbase (and I don't mean the new gen fans who are essentially shooter gamers and played ME2 as their first Bioware game) come to Bioware specifically FOR the RPG elements. A large percentage of their original fanbase (myself included) really disliked ME2 as it was horribly dumbed down and linear and the story ruined much of what was set in place in ME1. ME2 admittedly got rave reviews from the shooter crowd who found much of what it offered ground breaking compared to other shooters of the time, but most RPG fans found it very lacking. The Mass Effect series is special as a hybrid third person shooter- RPG, not as just another shooter. the problem is with straddling two extremely different genres - it is hard to balance the often opposing desires of both sides. Complete opposite for me. RPG doesn't have to mean "customizing gear and abilities" - and the story in ME2 was a great continuation of ME1. Andromeda the least "RPG" out of all the games as your choices mean fuck all - you just agree with people in up to four different tones of voice, and then waddle along to the final boss, with nothing changing along the way... I was probably expecting the worst since Casey Hudson left as he was the heart and soul of Mass Effect. Andromeda has managed to eclipse even my worst expectations, hitting a new low I didn't think possible You don't seem to really understand what you're saying? Or you're just trolling? 😜 Choices within a game aren't what makes a game classed as an RPG Suikoden - many RPGs have no choices at all. None! They're still rpgs! RPGs have exploration, character building, skill systems, inventory, quests. Choices and consequences are popular in Bioware rpgs but they're not what define the RPG genre, they're not even a requirement. Andromeda has far more RPG mechanics than ME2, and arguably more than even ME1 so it's pretty much a fact that it is the most RPG heavy iteration of the Mass Effect franchise.
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Post by Madflavor on Mar 31, 2017 2:17:57 GMT
It was a lot worse than I was expecting. The setting isn't interesting, the main plot is weak, the companions are flat, and the overall writing feels amateur. It feels as if Bioware were done with Mass Effect, had no passion or the creativity to continue, but EA wanted the series to continue because $$$, so they had an unproven, inexperienced, and smaller studio make the next game.
It shows. Oh god it shows.
Some fans will like it, but to everyone else it's a disappointment. To the general gaming community, it's an average game, and the meme flavor of the month. Aside from animations/bugs, ME:A is already fading from discussions online. That saddens me. ME:A is an average game, that was dropped between releases of fantastic games. As soon as Persona 5 releases next week, I personally will probably not even look at anything Mass Effect related, until anything noteworthy is revealed, such as plans for the next game.
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