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Post by penguinfetish on Apr 1, 2017 0:58:01 GMT
Comprehensive guide covering all skill levels to indicate how to best spend your MP credits.
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Post by voxgizer on Apr 1, 2017 1:11:01 GMT
Excellent info. Definitely changed my mind on the "Max Basics, then commons, etc" ideology.
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Post by penguinfetish on Apr 1, 2017 1:12:33 GMT
Excellent info. Definitely changed my mind on the "Max Basics, then commons, etc" ideology. Thanks. I think that always revolved around the idea that maxing out stuff increased odds for higher tier stuff, when in actual fact, it doesn't.
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Post by voxgizer on Apr 1, 2017 1:14:56 GMT
Excellent info. Definitely changed my mind on the "Max Basics, then commons, etc" ideology. Thanks. I think that always revolved around the idea that maxing out stuff increased odds for higher tier stuff, when in actual fact, it doesn't. For my friends and myself, that's exactly the idea it revolved around. Even after years of ME3MP, we should've known better, but, well, I guess it made us feel better. Either way, Premium Pack surfing for me from here on out.
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Post by Coda on Apr 1, 2017 1:35:36 GMT
Good video as usual.
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Post by Parachroma on Apr 1, 2017 2:12:21 GMT
I would highly recommend new players to buy heavily into basic packs. Not only can they advance the levels of common characters, they get a lot of consumables, like Cobra RPG, first aid, revives, etc., which the NEVER/RARELY seem to use but need to.
If you purchase credits, then throw in some Premium packs. Just do not underestimate the value of basic packs. There are several gold viable common characters.
People act like maxing commons is a chore. I think I maxed mine after about 20 or so hours of playing bronze, roughly a week of casual playing for me. Play those characters and l2p. Once you get good and level some characters, move on to silver. The "process" isn't difficult or much of a grind. Ultra-rare's aren't all that at lvl 1, and I prefer common/uncommons at 10 over and UR lvl 1. Higher levels of skill upgrades are what can make you or break you. That and weapons. Bioware needs to find a solution to the crappy weapon situation. AR's suck. All of them.
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Post by missileglitcher on Apr 1, 2017 2:26:55 GMT
Here's what I'm very interested to know: is there a difference between buying 1 premium pack versus 2 expert packs when it comes to the likelihood of getting an ultra rare card?
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Post by Mistral on Apr 1, 2017 2:28:23 GMT
Yep, nailed it. In fact I'd might go further and state that you should skip the uncommon packs altogether.
Unlike in Mass Effect 3, none of the damage-boosting mods are uncommons - they're all rares. In addition, several of the common weapons are underwhelming as well - I think the only real decent one is the Raptor.
In addition, weapon damage level scaling has been changed from Mass Effect 3. There's only a 20% difference between a rare at level 1 and level 10, and for ultra rares the difference is only 15%, compared to the 25% scaling in ME3. So buying premium packs until you get some good rare weapons and each of the barrel mods is an even better strategy than before.
In summary: Don't buy uncommon packs for the weapons - buy them for the characters instead. Kroguard, Salarian infiltrator, and Asari adept are all powerful characters.
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Post by penguinfetish on Apr 1, 2017 2:31:58 GMT
Here's what I'm very interested to know: is there a difference between buying 1 premium pack versus 2 expert packs when it comes to the likelihood of getting an ultra rare card? Yes. Premiums have 2 slots which can roll URs with a supposed higher chance (nobody knows what that is). So you get the same number of potential UR slots when buying 1 premium vs 2 expert, but both the slots in the premium pack has a higher independent chance of rolling a black card.
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Post by missileglitcher on Apr 1, 2017 2:45:37 GMT
Here's what I'm very interested to know: is there a difference between buying 1 premium pack versus 2 expert packs when it comes to the likelihood of getting an ultra rare card? Yes. Premiums have 2 slots which can roll URs with a supposed higher chance (nobody knows what that is). So you get the same number of potential UR slots when buying 1 premium vs 2 expert, but both the slots in the premium pack has a higher independent chance of rolling a black card. Hmm that's very interesting, thanks for the info.
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Post by norbac on Apr 1, 2017 6:18:43 GMT
So I read some threads and decided to max commons, after that started with uncommons and i'm just missing 19 of them at this point. It seems that I spent around 6.000.000 credits just for nothing. Kill me please.
Anyway thanks for the video, very informative.
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Post by spacev3gan on Apr 1, 2017 6:24:09 GMT
In fact I'd might go further and state that you should skip the uncommon packs altogether. Even though I have done exactly that and I would argue that it was kind of a smart decision since I have played mostly Gold anyway, I believe the Uncommon characters are too of a deal good to pass (except perhaps for the Krogan Engineer). Overall the Uncommon characters are better than the Rare ones and arguably on par with the Ultra Rare ones. It is a good idea particularly for beginners to try to unlock them.
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Post by acicm2 on Apr 1, 2017 6:28:08 GMT
thought this was a thread about penguin club coming back, oh well good video.
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Post by SalMasRac on Apr 1, 2017 7:32:42 GMT
There are some very very good common and uncommon characters. Slap a good gun on them (good luck with that) and you're pretty much ready for Gold.
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Post by OneWomanArmy on Apr 1, 2017 7:53:17 GMT
Nice thank you for this.
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Post by Mistral on Apr 1, 2017 8:02:59 GMT
In fact I'd might go further and state that you should skip the uncommon packs altogether. Even though I have done exactly that and I would argue that it was kind of a smart decision since I have played mostly Gold anyway, I believe the Uncommon characters are too of a deal good to pass (except perhaps for the Krogan Engineer). Overall the Uncommon characters are better than the Rare ones and arguably on par with the Ultra Rare ones. It is a good idea particularly for beginners to try to unlock them. Ah that's a very good point. I think I lucked out on uncommon characters to start with, so I forgot to consider that possibility.
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Post by guynice on Apr 1, 2017 8:56:08 GMT
Right now maxing Uncommons after Commons is actually a great idea if you want to use the Raptor, one of the 2 top weapons in the current balance. You will also max out some of the best kits in the game WAY faster than you could Rare let alone Ultra Rare kits, which naturally would give you more versatility and variety in the short term. So I completely reject your dismissal of buying Advanced packs after maxing out the Basics.
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Post by penguinfetish on Apr 1, 2017 9:24:18 GMT
Right now maxing Uncommons after Commons is actually a great idea if you want to use the Raptor, one of the 2 top weapons in the current balance. You will also max out some of the best kits in the game WAY faster than you could Rare let alone Ultra Rare kits, which naturally would give you more versatility and variety in the short term. So I completely reject your dismissal of buying Advanced packs after maxing out the Basics. Watch again, because i specifically mentioned buying advanced packs if you want the uncommon characters or weapons/weapon mods. I dont, so i skip them.
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Post by lillekri on Apr 1, 2017 9:31:18 GMT
I disagree with premium packs unless spending real money. I disagree with gold coming faster by skipping basic packs in the beginning. Otherwise good stuff. I really appreciate people taking the time to make vids!
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Post by guynice on Apr 1, 2017 9:34:28 GMT
You specifically said if your goal is to jump to Gold straight off the bat you're gonna want to buy Premium packs. That is misleading as it depends on the weapon/kit you want to play. You can jump straight to Gold with manguard, a Charger and Juggernaut Shield, buying only Basic packs. Advanced packs are also better if you want to play with a fully automatic sniper rifle and/or one of the Uncommon kits. What you should have said, is if you want to jump straight to Gold with one of the (few viable) UR weapons, buy Premium packs. If you want to do so with a Rare weapon, you should buy Expert packs (same amount of Rares, more consumables.
Also maxing Basics/Advanced has the objective advantage of giving way more consumables early on, when you have none. So you basically wrapped up your personal taste as fact.
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Post by penguinfetish on Apr 1, 2017 9:39:30 GMT
I disagree with premium packs unless spending real money. I disagree with gold coming faster by skipping basic packs in the beginning. Otherwise good stuff. I really appreciate people taking the time to make vids! Each to their own, but i was completing gold 4 hours into the trial before release using this method and that was soley because i had the equipment from premiums to do so.
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Post by penguinfetish on Apr 1, 2017 9:46:58 GMT
You specifically said if your goal is to jump to Gold straight off the bat you're gonna want to buy Premium packs. That is misleading as it depends on the weapon/kit you want to play. You can jump straight to Gold with manguard, a Charger and Juggernaut Shield, buying only Basic packs. Advanced packs are also better if you want to play with a fully automatic sniper rifle and/or one of the Uncommon kits. What you should have said, is if you want to jump straight to Gold with one of the (few viable) UR weapons, buy Premium packs. If you want to do so with a Rare weapon, you should buy Expert packs (same amount of Rares, more consumables. Also maxing Basics/Advanced has the objective advantage of giving way more consumables early on, when you have none. So you basically wrapped up your personal taste as fact. The hurricane, equalizer or talon 1 is better than a charger X. As is a vanquisher, dhan, piranha or several other rares/URs. You dont need to spend a lot to get one of these and then i stated you should then my basics. So yes you can do it with a vanguard with a charger, but youll have more success with better weapons imo. And if your opinion is different then thats fine, but this method has yielded me the best success so thats what ill communicate.
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Post by XCPTNL on Apr 1, 2017 13:28:23 GMT
I'm not so sure Premium Packs actually have a higher chance for UR stuff than Expert Packs. It says so in the description but it did so as well in ME3 and the chances were not higher. The statement is correct if you only consider the fact to have 2 R/UR slots as opposed to 1 in Expert Packs but there is no proof that the chances for said slots are actually higher than for the R/UR 1 slot in Expert packs. Any buying 2 Expert Packs (which cost the same as 1 Premium Pack) gives you 1+1 R/UR slots as well BUT you get more slots overall and thus more consumables or other stuff. If there is proof that the actuall chance for a UR is higher in the 2 R/UR slots of Premium Packs than in the 1+1 R/UR slots of 2 Expert Packs then Premium Packs are the way to go, other wise I'd buy 2 Expert Packs instead to get more stuff overall. That being said... nice video
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Post by yakabucci on Apr 1, 2017 13:32:38 GMT
I buy all premiums and sometimes advanced when I only have that many creds remaining, since most of my favorite kits are silver.
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Post by oneils on Apr 1, 2017 14:51:48 GMT
You specifically said if your goal is to jump to Gold straight off the bat you're gonna want to buy Premium packs. That is misleading as it depends on the weapon/kit you want to play. You can jump straight to Gold with manguard, a Charger and Juggernaut Shield, buying only Basic packs. Advanced packs are also better if you want to play with a fully automatic sniper rifle and/or one of the Uncommon kits. What you should have said, is if you want to jump straight to Gold with one of the (few viable) UR weapons, buy Premium packs. If you want to do so with a Rare weapon, you should buy Expert packs (same amount of Rares, more consumables. Also maxing Basics/Advanced has the objective advantage of giving way more consumables early on, when you have none. So you basically wrapped up your personal taste as fact. I don't think its misleading. Its only misleading if you are literal minded. The video does a good job of giving advice to suit your goals.
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