canuckgamer
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 162 Likes: 233
inherit
6314
0
May 11, 2017 19:30:09 GMT
233
canuckgamer
162
Mar 27, 2017 15:14:21 GMT
March 2017
canuckgamer
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by canuckgamer on Apr 2, 2017 20:16:17 GMT
So I came across a datapad in the Exaltation facility on Veold.
DISPATCH TO KETT BASE
"Benefactor,
I hear that you're haveing good success on (Imprecise; ALT: "??", "EOS") My transfer to this place was a good iea; ther'e so much to learn. I'm grateful you suggested it. Lets meet again. Perhaps you would be interested to see my homeworld, like you once showed me yours."
This one I found very interesting because it suggests the Benefactor has found a way to influence and work with the Kett. Totally shocked when I found this on my 2nd playthrough.
Thoughts?
|
|
raikas
N3
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 280 Likes: 340
inherit
6809
0
Feb 12, 2018 22:29:34 GMT
340
raikas
280
April 2017
raikas
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by raikas on Apr 2, 2017 20:59:37 GMT
There's plenty of backstory that's still a mystery, so it could be meaningful - on the other hand it could just as easily be a benefactor rather than the benefactor.
|
|
dmc1001
N7
Biotic Booty
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Origin: ferroboy
Prime Posts: 77
Posts: 9,941 Likes: 17,668
inherit
Biotic Booty
1031
0
Apr 19, 2024 16:40:05 GMT
17,668
dmc1001
9,941
August 2016
dmc1001
Top
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
ferroboy
77
|
Post by dmc1001 on Apr 2, 2017 21:03:39 GMT
Interesting. The message was sent to the Kett Base but directed to the Benefactor? I can't help but wonder if the Kett and the Benefactor were in touch prior to the AI launching. After all, it seems like the Kett saw the homeworld of whatever race the Benefactor comes from, which seems to be someplace in the Milky Way. Moreover, the Benefactor also saw the Kett homeworld. Given all the unexplored territory away from mass effect relays, could it be possible that the Kett originated in the Milky Way? Maybe they simply left before the AI. Or the Benefactor is a geth.
|
|
Zoriushka
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, Baldur's Gate
Posts: 141 Likes: 272
inherit
2506
0
272
Zoriushka
141
Dec 30, 2016 13:59:01 GMT
December 2016
zoriushka
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, Baldur's Gate
|
Post by Zoriushka on Apr 5, 2017 9:41:07 GMT
So I came across a datapad in the Exaltation facility on Veold.
DISPATCH TO KETT BASE
"Benefactor,
I hear that you're haveing good success on (Imprecise; ALT: "??", "EOS") My transfer to this place was a good iea; ther'e so much to learn. I'm grateful you suggested it. Lets meet again. Perhaps you would be interested to see my homeworld, like you once showed me yours."
This one I found very interesting because it suggests the Benefactor has found a way to influence and work with the Kett. Totally shocked when I found this on my 2nd playthrough.
Thoughts? I was wondering if someone mentioned it on the forum already, I'm replaying the game now and last night I rescued Moshae Sjefa from the Kett facility. This is where I read this message and now I'm wondering if this is just some benefactor or THIS Benefactor? I'm also intrigued by the fragment about showing the mail writer's world to the Benefactor and vice versa. If it's the Benefactor, when did they see the mentioned world, 600 years earlier? Are they still alive? So many questions! And I really hope it's not the Illusive Man...
|
|
thumbfu
N1
We made it...
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Origin: Thumbfu
Posts: 34 Likes: 54
inherit
6225
0
Apr 13, 2017 10:50:28 GMT
54
thumbfu
We made it...
34
Mar 26, 2017 23:01:50 GMT
March 2017
thumbfu
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Thumbfu
|
Post by thumbfu on Apr 5, 2017 9:51:27 GMT
Yeah I'm fairly certain its not the same benefactor.
Edit: In fact i think this particular benefactor could be the boss battle guy in the Kett base on Eos. Due to the way the Kett reproduce i'm thinking that an Angaran was exalted by this guy so the Angaran sees him as their benefactor. Just an idea though.
|
|
inherit
3035
0
2,341
sil
1,551
Jan 28, 2017 10:19:12 GMT
January 2017
sil
|
Post by sil on Apr 5, 2017 11:34:52 GMT
I kept wondering if the Kett are really Protheans that fled the Milky Way. I mean, Javik does mention how everyone they conquered became "Prothean", although I had assumed it to be a cultural change not a biological one.
|
|
inherit
5980
0
May 16, 2017 13:53:09 GMT
19
neoiceman
35
March 2017
neoiceman
|
Post by neoiceman on Apr 5, 2017 12:50:23 GMT
I kept wondering if the Kett are really Protheans that fled the Milky Way. I mean, Javik does mention how everyone they conquered became "Prothean", although I had assumed it to be a cultural change not a biological one. After this game, the words from Jarvik shining in an new "frightend" way. The Circle is round about 50.000 years and it is thinkable that thes guys have Protean Ancestors.
|
|
inherit
5787
0
249
parnashwind
249
March 2017
parnashwind
|
Post by parnashwind on Apr 5, 2017 12:59:56 GMT
I kept wondering if the Kett are really Protheans that fled the Milky Way. I mean, Javik does mention how everyone they conquered became "Prothean", although I had assumed it to be a cultural change not a biological one. In Javik's words: All those in the Empire eventually come to call themselves Protheans. It is not biological and it is Bioware's way of explaining why the Protheans in ME2/3 are so different from the visions Shepard saw in ME1 - because Prothean is not a single species
|
|
inherit
3035
0
2,341
sil
1,551
Jan 28, 2017 10:19:12 GMT
January 2017
sil
|
Post by sil on Apr 5, 2017 13:04:50 GMT
In Javik's words: All those in the Empire eventually come to call themselves Protheans. It is not biological and it is Bioware's way of explaining why the Protheans in ME2/3 are so different from the visions Shepard saw in ME1 - because Prothean is not a single species Yeah, the Protheans didn't do it biologically, but then who is to say that if they fled to Andromeda they wouldn't take a different approach after having failed in the Milky Way. We can't really dismiss it yet, as we don't know enough about the Kett. Though I'm hoping they aren't linked to the Protheans.
|
|
inherit
5787
0
249
parnashwind
249
March 2017
parnashwind
|
Post by parnashwind on Apr 5, 2017 14:06:24 GMT
In Javik's words: All those in the Empire eventually come to call themselves Protheans. It is not biological and it is Bioware's way of explaining why the Protheans in ME2/3 are so different from the visions Shepard saw in ME1 - because Prothean is not a single species Yeah, the Protheans didn't do it biologically, but then who is to say that if they fled to Andromeda they wouldn't take a different approach after having failed in the Milky Way. We can't really dismiss it yet, as we don't know enough about the Kett. Though I'm hoping they aren't linked to the Protheans. It make no sense for the Katt to be linked to the Protheans. Milky Way technology is largely shaped by what the Reapers left. Protheans who fled 50000 years ago will be much more advanced than the Pathfinder team. Katt tech is not advance except in biology. Protheans have biotics and from one of the datapad, Katt clearly don't know what biotics are. Biologically, Protheans can communicate via touch, Katt cannot. It would be silly that u become more primitive after.absorbing the genetic code of a thousand species. Simply put, Katt are too primitive to be Protheans.
|
|
solmirra
N1
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Origin: clevernaya
Posts: 24 Likes: 26
inherit
3923
0
26
solmirra
24
Feb 26, 2017 16:09:56 GMT
February 2017
solmirra
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
clevernaya
|
Post by solmirra on Apr 5, 2017 17:11:17 GMT
Considering that word "benefactor" is used in game only (as I know) when it's about someone who sponsored AI and in this datapad, I believe this is no coincidence. But maybe I just like conspiracy theories =)
|
|
formerfiend
N3
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, Mass Effect Andromeda
PSN: Former_Fiend
Posts: 547 Likes: 955
inherit
6916
0
955
formerfiend
547
April 2017
formerfiend
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, Mass Effect Andromeda
Former_Fiend
|
Post by formerfiend on Apr 5, 2017 18:02:09 GMT
I'm inclined to believe that this is either coincidence or a deliberate red herring. Given that this game also has Cora Harper, who's last name is shared with Jack Harper AKA The Illusive Man and who's first name evokes Eva Core, his lost lenore, and yet aside from the name there is no hint at a connection whatsoever between them, I wouldn't put it past the writers to have either used the term without considering the implicit connection, or otherwise put it there just for people to latch onto it to be deliberately misleading.
|
|
inherit
3035
0
2,341
sil
1,551
Jan 28, 2017 10:19:12 GMT
January 2017
sil
|
Post by sil on Apr 5, 2017 18:12:59 GMT
I reckon Cora was originally TIM's daughter, then the storyline was cut but the name stayed.
|
|
formerfiend
N3
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, Mass Effect Andromeda
PSN: Former_Fiend
Posts: 547 Likes: 955
inherit
6916
0
955
formerfiend
547
April 2017
formerfiend
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, Mass Effect Andromeda
Former_Fiend
|
Post by formerfiend on Apr 5, 2017 18:21:06 GMT
I'm more inclined to believe that there's someone on Bioware's writing team who has made it their mission in life to make a point that even in fictional worlds, not everyone with the same last name is related to each other. Given that in ME3 James Vega was originally James Sanders without any intentional relation to Kahlee Sanders and the name was only changed due to the fans not shutting up about speculation, and this time they just decided not to blink.
Anyway, on topic. The message in question is a kett talking to another kett from all appearances. If this is meant to be the Benefactor, this would imply one of two things; that they are the one who killed Garson rather than just having a sleeper agent do it, and in that case that they immediately jumped ship, submitted to exaltation by the kett, and rose to a position of some authority within the span of a year, or b; that they were a kett or were in league with the kett all along, even before the Initiative departed the Milky Way.
One of those is implausible and the other is borderline impossible and contradicted by everything we know.
|
|
inherit
3035
0
2,341
sil
1,551
Jan 28, 2017 10:19:12 GMT
January 2017
sil
|
Post by sil on Apr 5, 2017 18:24:45 GMT
It might be that the Benefactor and the person writing to him/her/it are both from the Milky Way. I keep feeling the Yahg are involved. They very very very likely are not involved, but there is that little bit at the back of the mind...
|
|
formerfiend
N3
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, Mass Effect Andromeda
PSN: Former_Fiend
Posts: 547 Likes: 955
inherit
6916
0
955
formerfiend
547
April 2017
formerfiend
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, Mass Effect Andromeda
Former_Fiend
|
Post by formerfiend on Apr 5, 2017 18:34:10 GMT
The idea that the two galaxies are communicating is massively unlikely given sheer distance. The Initiative took 600 years to cross darkspace one way and the ships they used are beyond what either the kett or the angara have at their disposal. The Jaardan might be capable of it but we don't have any evidence there.
Also the Yahg being involved - unless we're talking about the specific Yahg that was the Shadowbroker - is impossible. They're an isolated, pre-spaceflight species. Their tech level is on par 20th century earth. They aren't communicating with Andromeda.
|
|
inherit
3035
0
2,341
sil
1,551
Jan 28, 2017 10:19:12 GMT
January 2017
sil
|
Post by sil on Apr 5, 2017 18:37:43 GMT
The idea that the two galaxies are communicating is massively unlikely given sheer distance. The Initiative took 600 years to cross darkspace one way and the ships they used are beyond what either the kett or the angara have at their disposal. The Jaardan might be capable of it but we don't have any evidence there. Also the Yahg being involved - unless we're talking about the specific Yahg that was the Shadowbroker - is impossible. They're an isolated, pre-spaceflight species. Their tech level is on par 20th century earth. They aren't communicating with Andromeda. I admit its unlikely, highly unlikely, but something about the Yahg being involved just sticks at the back of my mind. I'm thinking more the Shadow Broker Yahg, but there are some vague similarities between the Kett and Yahg. Both feel they are the apex, both appear to crave dominance and control of those they consider beneath them. I'm really not expecting it to be the Yahg. I just can't shake the feeling that the old Shadow Broker was involved in some way. It's the mention of showing their homeworld that makes me think that. I just can't shake it!
|
|
formerfiend
N3
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, Mass Effect Andromeda
PSN: Former_Fiend
Posts: 547 Likes: 955
inherit
6916
0
955
formerfiend
547
April 2017
formerfiend
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, Mass Effect Andromeda
Former_Fiend
|
Post by formerfiend on Apr 5, 2017 18:45:18 GMT
I see more parallels between the kett and the protheans - kett forcibly, genetically assimilate other races where as protheans did it culturally.
And the Shadowbroker did have some vague involvement - specifically he provided Alec resources in developing SAM. Outside of that I don't see him as a likely candidate for being the Benefactor, especially given that we know what happened to him, and given that this is obviously meant as an ongoing plot thread, I don't imagine that the benefactor will turn out to be an existing character from the original trilogy as that would mean there won't be any dramatic closure with them.
|
|
inherit
3035
0
2,341
sil
1,551
Jan 28, 2017 10:19:12 GMT
January 2017
sil
|
Post by sil on Apr 5, 2017 18:49:00 GMT
I just hope it isn't Cerberus.
|
|
FemShepard'sPie
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 113 Likes: 198
inherit
2457
0
198
FemShepard'sPie
113
Dec 22, 2016 10:28:55 GMT
December 2016
ariya
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by FemShepard'sPie on Apr 5, 2017 18:52:18 GMT
After reading the original ME:A synopsis, I'm inclined to think it's the same Benefactor IF they kept most of the back story in tact. Depending on how much they veered away from it, they may have changed it to be another benefactor with new reasons. But if it's the same, it would make a whole lot of sense in tying the mission together with IM & Cereberus's intentions for Andromeda. I guess we'll see though.
|
|
FeralEwok
N3
Yub Nub
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 494 Likes: 1,374
inherit
4296
0
Nov 17, 2017 12:02:30 GMT
1,374
FeralEwok
Yub Nub
494
Mar 10, 2017 12:40:48 GMT
March 2017
feralewok
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by FeralEwok on Apr 5, 2017 19:15:56 GMT
Could this be additional reasoning for Jien Garson's murder if she caught on to any sort of double dealing with the Kett?
|
|
inherit
3035
0
2,341
sil
1,551
Jan 28, 2017 10:19:12 GMT
January 2017
sil
|
Post by sil on Apr 5, 2017 19:17:50 GMT
Could this be additional reasoning for Jien Garson's murder if she caught on to any sort of double dealing with the Kett? I have a feeling she was murdered because she was too powerful a figurehead to have poking her nose into who the Benefactor is. She was the perfect kind of charismatic individual to get people to join the Initiative, but once in Andromeda, too dangerous for the Benefactor to allow to be in control.
|
|
canuckgamer
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 162 Likes: 233
inherit
6314
0
May 11, 2017 19:30:09 GMT
233
canuckgamer
162
Mar 27, 2017 15:14:21 GMT
March 2017
canuckgamer
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by canuckgamer on Apr 5, 2017 19:58:43 GMT
Yeah I'm fairly certain its not the same benefactor. Edit: In fact i think this particular benefactor could be the boss battle guy in the Kett base on Eos. Due to the way the Kett reproduce i'm thinking that an Angaran was exalted by this guy so the Angaran sees him as their benefactor. Just an idea though. Nope, showing your homeworld doesn't make sense if it's not the Benefactor from the initiative.
|
|
Dukemon
N3
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Origin: Dukemon11
PSN: dukemon09
Posts: 486 Likes: 280
inherit
1139
0
280
Dukemon
486
Aug 22, 2016 22:50:07 GMT
August 2016
dukemon
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Dukemon11
dukemon09
|
Post by Dukemon on Apr 5, 2017 20:44:05 GMT
I am not sure, but I guess a part of the answer lies in the adapted story elements. Bioware used for MET HP Lovecraft novels, not at all but enough to see it to the end. I am speculating in MEA it is the same case. In this game they adapted sth from greek mythologie. (Hyperion (Titan of Light [brings the Nexus the light], Helius, Eos, ScottSaraSAM (three S, three children like Helius, Eos and Selene))
I would say in this case the answer who is the benefactor has something to do with the mythologie. (the evil uncle? the uncle from Eos, Helius and Selene)
|
|
inherit
3035
0
2,341
sil
1,551
Jan 28, 2017 10:19:12 GMT
January 2017
sil
|
Post by sil on Apr 5, 2017 20:49:32 GMT
So the Benefactor is Barry Ryder, Scott and Sara's wayward (but very rich) uncle?
|
|