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Post by bacon4breakfast on Apr 15, 2017 17:11:25 GMT
Please change description to around 650 people
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Post by Zyurat on Apr 15, 2017 17:11:47 GMT
It is literally an amalgamation of opinions. Did you even go to high school? What I meant was its not MY opinion im running here so its entirely pointless to ask me that question. I would have thought you had the brain capacity to understand that but apparently it needed clarification. If however you do want my opinion, it is that the Indra is the raptors retarded little brother and its a rare rather than an uncommon. If however you think a weapon that shits itself everytime you pull the trigger for the first time before actually being aimable is good then more power to you. A weapon that shits itself when you fire... now THAT'S an interesting concept.
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Post by Malaclypse on Apr 15, 2017 17:13:41 GMT
1) OP: Thanks for the text alternative. Some of us just can't take the vids...too slow. Text is very appreciated.
2) Can't say I disagree much with the polity, except that I find the Revenant more useful than they do, provided it has Turbocharge behind it.
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Post by drekor on Apr 15, 2017 17:15:18 GMT
Indra should be tier 2. What's up with the inferno in tier 2? Should be 3 or 4. Well the Indra is garbage And Inferno is basically a better version of the Valiant and it's a decent weapon so... it should at least be the same tier as that.
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Post by Kazu on Apr 15, 2017 17:17:11 GMT
The list seems ok for me. How to get the devs to balance around gold instead of bronze?
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Post by penguinfetish on Apr 15, 2017 17:18:43 GMT
Please change description to around 650 people And why on earth would I do that?
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Post by bacon4breakfast on Apr 15, 2017 17:23:14 GMT
Please change description to around 650 people And why on earth would I do that? Redditor votes only count 3/5 obv
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Post by niroz on Apr 15, 2017 17:26:26 GMT
The Sweeper X TM is un-f**king-stoppable on gold And it only took 80% of the thermal clip to kill that one mook? Man, if i didn't laugh id cry. Had an AR Mag VIII on it too
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Post by cato on Apr 15, 2017 17:31:15 GMT
1) OP: Thanks for the text alternative. Some of us just can't take the vids...too slow. Text is very appreciated. 2) Can't say I disagree much with the polity, except that I find the Revenant more useful than they do, provided it has Turbocharge behind it. Yeah, Revenant on the Turian Havoc is one of the very few setups I actually enjoy. I broadly agree with the survey results apart from that though. I don't understand the balance in this game at all. People have hypothesized that Bioware assume bronze to be the default difficulty but some weapons, including several ultra-rares, are quite poor even on the lowest difficulty. There is so much work for the devs to do and given their history of incremental change during ME3's lifetime (and the first balance change of Andromeda) we'll probably have to wait for months to get even a semblance of balance.
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Apr 15, 2017 17:33:16 GMT
1) OP: Thanks for the text alternative. Some of us just can't take the vids...too slow. Text is very appreciated. 2) Can't say I disagree much with the polity, except that I find the Revenant more useful than they do, provided it has Turbocharge behind it. Yeah, Revenant on the Turian Havoc is one of the very few setups I actually enjoy. I broadly agree with the survey results apart from that though. I don't understand the balance in this game at all. People have hypothesized that Bioware assume bronze to be the default difficulty but some weapons, including several ultra-rares, are quite poor even on the lowest difficulty. There is so much work for the devs to do and given their history of incremental change during ME3's lifetime (and the first balance change of Andromeda) we'll probably have to wait for months to get even a semblance of balance. Here is my problem with that. Even on bronze. most ARs suck balls, so I don't think it is that. Even most Shotguns sucks at that level.
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Post by operatorm1 on Apr 15, 2017 17:42:51 GMT
Isharay should be tier 3 with the widow because single shot. Putting it on the same tier as black widow, and valiant as if it's as worthwhile to use vs those two just looks silly. Who would really contemplate using an Isharay over a Valiant, or Black Widow at all?
I feel the Lanat should also be tier 3 because of the silly charge mechanic despite its two round clip. I personally hated using that gun more than the widow, but that's more of my personal feeling than anything else.
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Apr 15, 2017 18:08:29 GMT
Isharay should be tier 3 with the widow because single shot. Putting it on the same tier as black widow, and valiant as if it's as worthwhile to use vs those two just looks silly. Who would really contemplate using an Isharay over a Valiant, or Black Widow at all? I feel the Lanat should also be tier 3 because of the silly charge mechanic despite its two round clip. I personally hated using that gun more than the widow, but that's more of my personal feeling than anything else. I disagree. Single shot SR are always worth it. They were my main weapon in ME3 MP. One shot kills over ride the Semi-automatic Snipers now that the reload issue is fixed.
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Post by neightrix on Apr 15, 2017 18:12:31 GMT
Valkyrie being that low makes me very sad. That is where it currently belongs though Imo Falcon is tier 3, and Thokin could be tier 2. Sidewinder also because rank X is good and only 5 weight. Good to have something the devs can quick reference at least. Hopefully the Sweeper's placement won't leave them heartbroken and confused.
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Post by Kevlareater on Apr 15, 2017 18:18:46 GMT
The list seems ok for me. How to get the devs to balance around gold instead of bronze? They have to play gold before they can balance around it.
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Post by killabkilledb on Apr 15, 2017 19:49:55 GMT
Indra should be tier 2. What's up with the inferno in tier 2? Should be 3 or 4. People I play with online swear by the inferno.
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Post by killabkilledb on Apr 15, 2017 19:50:31 GMT
That list has the hurricane in the wrong spot. People need to L2P if they think the hurricane is a tier 2 gun.
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Post by xaijin on Apr 15, 2017 19:55:06 GMT
Oh boy popularity contests; I wonder which shotgun wants to end world hunger and give all the puppies a home.
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Post by gaidax on Apr 15, 2017 19:56:54 GMT
That list has the hurricane in the wrong spot. People need to L2P if they think the hurricane is a tier 2 gun. Ye lulz, Equalizer same tier as Hurricane... Whoever made this shit up is baaaaad.
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Post by killabkilledb on Apr 15, 2017 20:00:52 GMT
That list has the hurricane in the wrong spot. People need to L2P if they think the hurricane is a tier 2 gun. Ye lulz, Equalizer same tier as Hurricane... Whoever made this shit up is baaaaad. Yeah, I remember someone on this forum ranked the equalizer as being better than the hurricane. I have no idea what game they are playing....That shit can't even hit an enemy beyond 15 meters...It fires blanks....hurricane rips, shreds, melts and primes the funk out of everything for kabooms...pretty accurate too...
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Post by treoir on Apr 15, 2017 20:13:04 GMT
I think you have overlooked that ranking up weapons has its biggest effect on weight.
You might only get a 15% damage increase from ranking up, but you can easily get the weight cut in half going from rank 1 to rank X. So comparing a rank 1 weapon's weight with a rank 8 weapon's weight is just silly - even (perhaps especially?) if that rank 1 weapon will be difficult to rank up.
I am also wondering about "hidden mechanisms". High damage weapons are supposedly better against armor than high rate-of-fire weapons. But I do not understand how this mechanism changes (or does not change) when you rank up a weapon.
Anyways...
... the community is young and the game is still buggy so idk where this will all go ...
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Post by killabkilledb on Apr 15, 2017 20:18:22 GMT
Valkyrie being that low makes me very sad. That is where it currently belongs though Imo Falcon is tier 3, and Thokin could be tier 2. Sidewinder also because rank X is good and only 5 weight. Good to have something the devs can quick reference at least. Hopefully the Sweeper's placement won't leave them heartbroken and confused. Valkyrie goes up a tier after patch 1.05. Burst weapons work better now. I have it at X. With AR amp 3 and an ammo mod its okay. Not what a UR X should be but I completed the challenge for it on gold. Was painful but usable ...
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Post by operatorm1 on Apr 15, 2017 20:20:21 GMT
Isharay should be tier 3 with the widow because single shot. Putting it on the same tier as black widow, and valiant as if it's as worthwhile to use vs those two just looks silly. Who would really contemplate using an Isharay over a Valiant, or Black Widow at all? I feel the Lanat should also be tier 3 because of the silly charge mechanic despite its two round clip. I personally hated using that gun more than the widow, but that's more of my personal feeling than anything else. I disagree. Single shot SR are always worth it. They were my main weapon in ME3 MP. One shot kills over ride the Semi-automatic Snipers now that the reload issue is fixed. How was the reload issue fixed? Can we reload cancel now? With a valiant/black widow, you can drop at least 2 targets without reloading. I still need levels on my isharay for a possible one-shot from full HP to the body of a basic raider.
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Post by killabkilledb on Apr 15, 2017 20:23:31 GMT
I disagree. Single shot SR are always worth it. They were my main weapon in ME3 MP. One shot kills over ride the Semi-automatic Snipers now that the reload issue is fixed. How was the reload issue fixed? Can we reload cancel now? No but reloading is a little better I think. Also, Isharay is better than the widow but the widow sounds cooler...hard to put them in the game tier... Is there a reason to use the widow if you have the isharay thats not nostalgia?
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Post by rustybuckets on Apr 15, 2017 20:45:03 GMT
I don't understand... I've heard people saying that they've gotten my beloved Reegar Carbine in mp also but it's never on those list! What is going on?! Im not gonna get my weapon??? I want my weapon!!!! The Reegar is in single player at least, so it could turn up in the multiplayer at same stage- perhaps with a patch or DLC.
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Apr 15, 2017 20:45:36 GMT
I disagree. Single shot SR are always worth it. They were my main weapon in ME3 MP. One shot kills over ride the Semi-automatic Snipers now that the reload issue is fixed. How was the reload issue fixed? Can we reload cancel now? With a valiant/black widow, you can drop at least 2 targets without reloading. I still need levels on my isharay for a possible one-shot from full HP to the body of a basic raider. It doesn't reload if you move. That's how it is fixed. I doubt reload cancelling is back. The BW doesn't do as much damage as the isharay or widow per shot.
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