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Post by solaxe on Apr 28, 2017 11:57:21 GMT
You call me a whiner because I criticize game that crashes all the time after I spent money on it? Wow.
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Post by ultimatespindash on Apr 28, 2017 12:00:06 GMT
When it comes to multiplayer, people are mostly just concerned. We had one patch in five weeks, that was about a month ago, and since then BW hasn't exactly communicated alot.
When it comes to singleplayer, I have to agree with you OP. I haven't completed it yet, but you know what I immediately saw when the game was released available? Players who claimed the game was horrible and were citing facial animations. Facial animations. Nothing else. At least I never saw anybody complain about anything other than the facial animations (didn't look into plot complaints to avoid spoilers, though). I had a one eternal loading screen and one crash in about 10 hours of SP so far, and both times I lost absolutely no progress thanks to well placed checkpoints. That's a well polished game to me, especially for one of this scope. Most games these days start out way worse.
I think people are comparing Andromeda to the Shepard trilogy too much. It makes sense to do that for the Multiplayer, since it's 90% identical to ME3s (which also took some time to get good and interesting. Many people simply ignored it.). The singleplayer is trying to do something different though, having very few connections to the old trilogy, and I think Bioware was very aware that not everyone was going to like it.
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Post by GruntKitterhand on Apr 28, 2017 12:28:16 GMT
OP, you maybe wanna note that the tone of your post would be better suited to the SP section, even if the content itself relates to MP. Some of us old BSN veterans discovered early on in ME3's life that the MP section was where most of the relatively normal people hung out. ME3 MP section is still the friendliest place on the internet, for the most part.
This section obviously has a lot of complaining in it, because we are fully justified in our concerns that Bioware took 5 years to make a game worse, not better, than its predecessor. Because Jetpacks, apparently, from the horse's mouth. It's an unholy mess. We all hope it will improve, but are concerned that the devs are in some kind of denial about the overall state of the game. Most of the 'whining' you see in the MP section also includes a lot of constructive criticism and suggestions for improvement.
I played ME3 MP for 5 years on PS3 through more Collector freezes than I could count, but I've only lasted 75 games with MEA, and won't play it again until something is done about the crashes - even if that is just to remove the mechanic which steals my credits and boosters - credits should be banked at the end of either objective wave, and boosters should only be removed from your inventory on return to the lobby. That would be a start, at least. As things stand, I believe that if 3 fuckwits were to decide to kick me from a game with 5 seconds left on the clock, I will lose credits, xp, and any boosters I was using. That alone makes the game not worth playing, and it needs to be sorted out.
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Post by palker4 on Apr 28, 2017 12:28:56 GMT
No thanks.
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Post by acicm2 on Apr 28, 2017 12:34:59 GMT
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Post by Ghostknife72 on Apr 28, 2017 12:37:18 GMT
It's because we're all attention whores and you're the only one who's normal. I beg you pardon?!? I'm perfectly normal. See
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 12:40:27 GMT
Is it a kit in DA:MP? Ultra-rare, I guess? Want it!
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Post by kouzje on Apr 28, 2017 12:59:44 GMT
Serious answer: While I understand the general feeling of your post, I think there is more to this place than just whining. I mean, yeah there is whining and negativity and a lot of people are just behaving like spoiled children. I remember back when ME3MP had balance changes, everyone was complaining about them and there was imo a lot of overreaction. But for MEAMP, behind the whining there are real problems and the signs from the dev camp are not reassuring. This kind of sentiment is just a sign that people have great expectations for the game and they're still hanging on because they're attached to it. If it wasn't Mass Effect, they would have played a couple of days and moved on. There's a difference between technical problems on a fun game as you describe in your post and just lack of incentive to play because the game isn't that fun. You can't just expect people to keep playing if they have no other drive than their love for the ME franchise. So yeah, I guess it's people's way of dealing with the bitterness and disappointment and how they still stay involved in the game even if they don't like playing it. Also I agree that the tone over here makes it hard for the devs to start a conversation with the us (although if they wanted to talk with their community they wouldn't have blown up their forums in the first place ). While I would appreciate more constructive comments, I guess as this is an unofficial forum, this is the right place for unedited and raw reaction. Seems like they already decided to only post on reddit so let this be their thermometer for overall community sentiment.
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Post by gethadept on Apr 28, 2017 13:01:36 GMT
I will tell you something.
I hardly whined about playing Fallout 3, Fallout NV and Fallout 4.
but I cannot stop whining about Mass Effect Andromeda.
I had total 38 crashes since I started to play MP. Don`t tell me I have no right to whine about BW`s pathetic programming and follow up services.
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Post by Pounce de León on Apr 28, 2017 13:16:44 GMT
Sometimes I wonder - if we all got together: Wouldn't that be a great barbecue party? We'd have a pool, drinks with little umbrellas and - of course - lotsa steaks and pineapple pizza.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Apr 28, 2017 13:20:11 GMT
The bottom line is, calm down stop posting garbage and be productive with your posts. If you're 18 or older, you're an adult. Act like it. Somebody's inevitably going to point out that you should follow your own advice.
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Post by stopdroproll on Apr 28, 2017 13:25:27 GMT
No, just no. I've payed good money and expect at least somewhat bug-free product in return Did you pre-order and pay money for something that wasn't in your hands yet, or tested or reviewed? Because if so, then you're to blame. Otherwise, you're correct.Yes I Well why does it matter if I pre-ordered or not, the mea is in the pre-release state atm. I know there are plenty of reasons why we should not pre-order or buy dlc's that are actually the part of base game *cough*javik*cough* but expecting the game not to crash once per couple of hours is not one of them.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Apr 28, 2017 13:26:32 GMT
When you know you can't say anything, you say stupid stuff. I mean, you gotta say something...without saying something. This is the difference between private vs. corporate. Well, that didn't take long. At least you didn't drag it out for 5 pages.
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Post by only1biggs on Apr 28, 2017 14:00:48 GMT
Did you pre-order and pay money for something that wasn't in your hands yet, or tested or reviewed? Because if so, then you're to blame. Otherwise, you're correct.Yes I Well why does it matter if I pre-ordered or not, the mea is in the pre-release state atm. I know there are plenty of reasons why we should not pre-order or buy dlc's that are actually the part of base game *cough*javik*cough* but expecting the game not to crash once per couple of hours is not one of them.What? Yes it is. It's a key reason. By not pre-ordering and making sure the game works first via review or other means and being an informed buyer, you aid in games being made correctly to begin with and not rushed out. Instead you get what you get now. Bug filled, untested, unbalanced, glitch ridden, broken, dumb "AAA" games. If you wait to know that games are polished, as they should be for the price you pay, then go and buy it, you're a rational consumer. If not, then you get trash and buyers remorse and aid in shitty business practices. Unless you're a "fanboy/girl" and will just buy it no matter what.
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Post by parthianshot on Apr 28, 2017 14:13:10 GMT
Well why does it matter if I pre-ordered or not, the mea is in the pre-release state atm. I know there are plenty of reasons why we should not pre-order or buy dlc's that are actually the part of base game *cough*javik*cough* but expecting the game not to crash once per couple of hours is not one of them.What? Yes it is. It's a key reason. By not pre-ordering and making sure the game works first via review or other means and being an informed buyer, you aid in games being made correctly to begin with and not rushed out. Instead you get what you get now. Bug filled, untested, unbalanced, glitch ridden, broken, dumb "AAA" games. If you wait to know that games are polished, as they should be for the price you pay, then go and buy it, you're a rational consumer. If not, then you get trash and buyers remorse and aid in shitty business practices. Unless you're a "fanboy/girl" and will just buy it no matter what. *sniff* I guess I'm a fangirl. Bought it on the promise of the last . . . .
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Post by chugster on Apr 28, 2017 14:24:51 GMT
The main issue is alot of people here cant tell the difference between constructive criticism and whining....and some people are just whining with no constructive criticism.
This is where alot of issues come from....not the complaining about issues but the WAY people complain about issues.
Im fairly sure the OP has a similar stance to myself, complain but try not to be an asshole doing it.
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Post by Pyrceval78 on Apr 28, 2017 14:27:19 GMT
The main issue is alot of people here cant tell the difference between constructive criticism and whining....and some people are just whining with no constructive criticism. This is where alot of issues come from....not the complaining about issues but the WAY people complain about issues. Im fairly sure the OP has a similar stance to myself, complain but try not to be an asshole doing it.
But...I AM an asshole.
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Post by gethadept on Apr 28, 2017 14:34:56 GMT
The main issue is alot of people here cant tell the difference between constructive criticism and whining....and some people are just whining with no constructive criticism. This is where alot of issues come from....not the complaining about issues but the WAY people complain about issues. Im fairly sure the OP has a similar stance to myself, complain but try not to be an asshole doing it. Repetitive construction criticism becomes whining when the developer does not respond to it. At least that`s how I see it.
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Post by chugster on Apr 28, 2017 14:34:58 GMT
The main issue is alot of people here cant tell the difference between constructive criticism and whining....and some people are just whining with no constructive criticism. This is where alot of issues come from....not the complaining about issues but the WAY people complain about issues. Im fairly sure the OP has a similar stance to myself, complain but try not to be an asshole doing it.
But...I AM an asshole.
Well im sure we can find a dick round here thats big enough for you
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Post by chugster on Apr 28, 2017 14:36:11 GMT
The main issue is alot of people here cant tell the difference between constructive criticism and whining....and some people are just whining with no constructive criticism. This is where alot of issues come from....not the complaining about issues but the WAY people complain about issues. Im fairly sure the OP has a similar stance to myself, complain but try not to be an asshole doing it. Repetitive construction criticism becomes whining when the developer does not respond to it. At least that`s how I see it. True, but dropping F-bombs and C-bombs aimed at the Devs will not make them respond more.
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Post by gethadept on Apr 28, 2017 14:39:48 GMT
Repetitive construction criticism becomes whining when the developer does not respond to it. At least that`s how I see it. True, but dropping F-bombs and C-bombs aimed at the Devs will not make them respond more. Honestly, I would tolerate everything about MEAMP if the game simply ran stable. When 5 games crash out of 7 for no apparent reason.. even I have hard time controlling my emotion without ranting somewhere(a.k.a here). The ultimate question is... all my other games run PERFECTLY FINE so WTF is wrong with MEAMP?
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Post by OneWomanArmy on Apr 28, 2017 14:52:43 GMT
It's because we're all attention whores and you're the only one who's normal. I beg you pardon?!? I'm perfectly normal. See My my what have we here?? I call dips on this one!
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Post by DonMarfil on Apr 28, 2017 14:54:38 GMT
If you have a moment, I would love to take you back about 17 years or so, to the multiplayer games that started it all: Quake 3 Arena and Unreal Tournament. You are talking to people who played MIDI-Maze and DooM here (myself included). And btw these games were much more "finished" on release. That were the games that started it all, young padawan. I don't want to talk about your or my diapers here. It's my opinion that when I browse this subforum, I want to see builds, gameplay video (informative and funny), and just general useful information about the game See, that's the problems with you younger peeps. You come to a forum run by people in their spare time and you "want" something. How about you contribute some funny gameplay video for example or just take this forum as it is? Warning: Lots of words. Never in my life have I seen such rampant whining about a game. You obviously have not been to the official UBIsoft forums recently reading players reactions on TheDivision 1.3 or 1.6.... Seriously: Players are right to complain about crashing games, ammo glitches, cheaters and so on, i think the most frustrating thing here are not the bugs or glitches, it's the developers doing obviously not enough to make paying customers happy or even equip them with a working product and that's a very good reason to complain in my book.
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